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Author Topic: Was Aldous Huxely Good Or Evil?  (Read 1294 times)
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« on: November 21, 2007, 08:07:30 PM »

I mean was he trying to warn us or just bragging?  I used to listen to marilyn manson, and on his holywood album in a song called "Target Audience (Narcissus Narcosis)" his lyrics say "am I sorry that you killed the kennedy's, and huxely too?
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2007, 04:26:24 AM »

well, from what i can tell, huxely was bragging for the most part. i think his work was not intended for the masses as he would have called them, and he was very pro NWO.

i think marylin manson may just have dropped that name in because it sounded good in that particular song.

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2007, 08:29:40 AM »

Evil.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2007, 01:10:04 AM »

I used to post at a Marilyn Manson forum years ago and there was this one member that swore up and down with really long and detailed posts that Manson was actually trying to awaken his fans to the truth.  It was around that time that the FBI had labeled any fans of Manson’s as terrorists.  Many of his lyrics have to do with dying in front of a camera and being martyred.  He actually reenacts the Kennedy assassination in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlfdoObRyoc
Marilyn Manson - Coma White
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2007, 01:14:59 AM »

Here's one person's take on it.

http://www.mansonusa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39050
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I’ve recently read Brave New World by Aldous Huxley and have noticed quite a few similarities and/or reference to this book in MM musical works. These are a few of them;
Mechanical Animals;
This album has to have the most reference to Huxley and what he writes about in this book. Firstly for a quick over-view of the book (although I recommend you read it it’s a good book) check out this site http://www.huxley.net/ there are probably better ones however basically I can’t arsed to find them lol.
Here are some quotations from the song Coma White;

‘There's something cold and blank behind her smile’

‘You were from a perfect world
A world that threw me away’

‘A pill to make you numb
A pill to make you dumb
A pill to make you anybody else
But all the drugs in this world
Won't save her from herself’

First of all this title of the song its self it Coma and a common theme in Huxley’s book is a drug called ‘Soma’ which the government gives out in order to control the masses. A victim of this drug is the one of the main characters, John’s mother, who near to the end of the book has become reliant on this drug and is slowly killing herself. The quotation ‘You were from a perfect world ect.’ Reflect how John "The Savage" feels towards Lenina and how he can’t live in this ‘perfect world’ as they won’t let him.
Another similarity I found in this book and mechanical animals are seen in this extract from the ‘hidden track’ on the album;

‘Millions Of Capsules And Mechanical Animals
A City Full Of Dead Stars And A Girl I Called Coma White’

This is saying this world is just full of drugs and these clones which they call people. The reference to a girl called ‘Coma White’ is either to, Lenina, the girl that John loved or to his mother who had been taken in by these drugs and this world.

Holywood;
These next quotations are taken from the song ‘Target Audience (Narcissus Narcosis)’.
‘Am I sorry you killed the Kennedy's and Huxley too?’

‘And I see all the young believers
Your target audience’

‘your father's your prison you see’

The first one is obvious really if that’s who Manson was referring to. The next two quotations I feel refers to how in Huxley’s book people are brainwashed into thinking certain things and that family is disgusting and not needed. Also the name itself, ‘Narcissus’ meaning, any of several widely cultivated bulbous plants of the genus Narcissus, having long narrow leaves and usually white or yellow flowers. And ‘Narcosis’ meaning, a condition of deep stupor or unconsciousness produced by a drug or other chemical substance. So together they give, as I see ‘soma’.

The Golden Age Of Grotesque;
Not as much referencing as I found however there was something in the song ‘Ka-Boom ka-Boom’;

‘It's a depraved new world’

This mirrors what John “The Savage” keeps saying all the way through the book however slightly different ‘O’ Brave New World’

So yeah this is how I interpret these songs regarding Huxley, however I also except the other reasons for these songs like Coma and Adam and all that and I was Just wondering if anyone else has noticed these similarities or if its just me lol Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2007, 11:53:13 AM »

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So is Marilyn Manson and anyone who listens to him/her
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2007, 12:45:38 PM »

Huxley was an elitist. Brave New World was the elilte visual of the world to be after the final control grid was set in place. Huxley oversaw the  tests on LSD at Berkley, Stanford and Harvard  that would spawn the careers of Tim Leary, Ken Kesey and Ted Kaczynski. Most of his works of fiction like The Doors of Perception,Island and even Eyeless in Gaza were based on real ideas that  have much to do with utopian societies generated by popualtion control and the suggestion of world drug addiction as a cure for the problems of the planet. The evil outsiders who don't want to be a part of the drug culture always screw everything up for the peace and love everyone felt through music,drugs and free sex. These ideas preceeded the beatniks and hippies and largely can be credited to Huxley and were put to pen by writers who called themselves the "dandies" of Eaton college in the early 1900's where he taught. One of his pupils was George Orwell. He admits this much in his speech "the ultimate revolution" and once again blames the woes of humanity on people's stupidity which I believe is true to an extent. His family financed  Darwin's research and Aldous' brother, Julian Huxley a biologist and creator of UNESCO by no coincidence became the supreme authority on Darwin's work later on writing multiple books about him even penning "The Humanist Manifesto" a ground base for manipulated science to fit elite beliefs like social darwinism and eugenics. It's all connected Huxley and his whole family were  opportunist trash. But damn was he a good writer.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2007, 05:12:45 AM »

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>>I mean was he trying to warn us or just bragging?  I used to listen to marilyn manson, and on his holywood album in a song called "Target Audience (Narcissus Narcosis)" his lyrics say "am I sorry that you killed the kennedy's, and huxely too?<<

It is interesting to note that Aldous Huxley died the same day as John F. Kennedy...

now, whether or not there are such things as coincidences is a different story. i'm personally not aware of any funny business or odd circumstances about Huxley's death, so I could neither support/refute the "killed...huxley too" but he did die the same day
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2007, 11:36:49 PM »

Evil.
 Whereas George Orwell mixed with tramps in London to expose evil, (Refer: Down And Out In Paris And London by Orwell), Huxley seems to lack compassion about humanity, as a psychopath would. I could be wrong.
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