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Just saw a CNN breaking news scroll which claims there was an earthquake in (you guessed it) Venezuela. This has gotta be HARRP. IF anyone finds the actual article please post.
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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=155656.msg925113#msg9251135.7 Magnitude quake hits Venezuela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XtOUatn1OEAnother earthquake has struck - this time in Venezuela, which is also in the Caribbean region. The tremor's been confirmed by the U.S. Geological Survey. It's been measured at 5.6 on the Richter scale, making it a medium-strength earthquake. There have been no reports of any damage or casualties so far. Experts say the new earthquake could be an aftershock of the one which devastated Haiti on Tuesday - which was force seven in magnitude.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2010, 02:14:42 PM » |
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I hope this doesn't affect Venezuela's ability to continue to provide aid to Haiti...Venezuelan Humanitarian Team Arrives in Haiti after EarthquakePublished on January 13th 2010, by Kiraz Janicke - Venezuelanalysis.com Caracas January 13, 2009 (venezuelanalysis.com) – Venezuela sent its first aid airplane to Haiti, a Bolivarian National Armed Force's Hercules C-130, with a fifty-strong advance humanitarian aid team on board, on Wednesday morning, after a 7.3 magnitude earthquake leveled the country’s capital Port-au-Prince, late Tuesday. The quake, which produced at least 30 aftershocks, including one of 5.9 and one of 5.5 on the Richter scale, may have affected up to 3 million people according to the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Federation. The death toll is unknown, but Haiti President René Préval said thousands of people had died, while many thousands are injured and many Haitian’s lie trapped under rubble. Haitian Prime Minister, Jean Max Bellerive estimated the death toll at more than one hundred thousand. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez ordered the immediate deployment of the aid team on Tuesday comprised of doctors, engineers, search and rescue specialists, and civil protection officers, as well as urgently needed food, water, medical supplies, and rescue equipment. Chavez said Venezuela would send further aid and supplies. ... (continued at source link)
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2010, 02:31:44 PM » |
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Or maybe tectonic shifts can impact other parts of the world?
Then again, I also believe in coincidences. Unless the earthquake in CA shortly before the one in Haiti was also a "warning shot" (or a misfire).
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it sounds to me like they can direct where the quake is going to happen but not how strong. they tried for a big one in CA, they got a big one in haiti, after that worked they thought why not try Venezuel.
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2010, 02:41:46 PM » |
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Just saw a CNN breaking news scroll which claims there was an earthquake in (you guessed it) Venezuela. This has gotta be HARRP. IF anyone finds the actual article please post.
HAARP might be involved. But "IT'S GOTTA BE HAARP" just helps to support the argument that we're all nuts and think every single thing that happens is directly tied to the NWO. If a tree falls in the forest....IT'S GOTTA BE THE NWO!!! So far, seismic activity seems to be no higher than it is on average per year. The reason that it's getting so much attention is because earthquakes with a rating of 7 or above usually happen less than 20 times per year and with those odds it stands to reason that, more often than not, these larger quakes are further away from large populations. The Haiti quake hit in a heavily populated area so of course it's going to get a lot of attention. So far there is no reason to think that there is anything out of the ordinary going on. I have yet to see anyone post anything that could be considered actual evidence of HAARP involvement. I just see people assuming things. Think before you post, folks. This does more harm than good. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.phphttp://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/increase_in_earthquakes.phpDon't get me wrong, I'm not telling you to trust everything the USGS says, but at least use some common sense.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2010, 02:43:15 PM » |
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HAARP might be involved. But "IT'S GOTTA BE HAARP" just helps to support the argument that we're all nuts and think every single thing that happens is directly tied to the NWO. If a tree falls in the forest....IT'S GOTTA BE THE NWO!!!
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you to trust everything the USGS says, but at least use some common sense.
Thanks. People need to get proof that it's HAARP, not jump to conclusions.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2010, 02:49:15 PM » |
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Thanks.
People need to get proof that it's HAARP, not jump to conclusions.
It's kinda frustrating to see this going on. Just because it's possible doesn't make it true. Here's another way of looking at it: If you wanted to hire an investigator, and if (as soon as you started trying to explain to him what needed to be investigated) he then claimed to already know the answer before doing any sort of investigation...would you still want to hire him? I know I wouldn't.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2010, 03:37:16 PM » |
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HAARP might be involved. But "IT'S GOTTA BE HAARP" just helps to support the argument that we're all nuts and think every single thing that happens is directly tied to the NWO. If a tree falls in the forest....IT'S GOTTA BE THE NWO!!! So far, seismic activity seems to be no higher than it is on average per year. The reason that it's getting so much attention is because earthquakes with a rating of 7 or above usually happen less than 20 times per year and with those odds it stands to reason that, more often than not, these larger quakes are further away from large populations. The Haiti quake hit in a heavily populated area so of course it's going to get a lot of attention. So far there is no reason to think that there is anything out of the ordinary going on. I have yet to see anyone post anything that could be considered actual evidence of HAARP involvement. I just see people assuming things. Think before you post, folks. This does more harm than good. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.phphttp://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/increase_in_earthquakes.phpDon't get me wrong, I'm not telling you to trust everything the USGS says, but at least use some common sense. Your are correct Ronald. A little too sensationalistic for me as well. I contribute some of it to being a little tormented on what I believe will be the Haitians final dispositon, and the NWO agenda with nations such as Haiti, Venezuela and others. I simply do not put anything pass them. Be that as it may . . . until the facts are in, I'll just wait. (but I still think its them). 
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2010, 03:59:13 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2010, 04:16:48 PM » |
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Oh gosh. HAARP again. Yeah sure, every weather events is caused by HAARP...  Is that the level of argumentation and discernment we have on the "infowars side" now? Threads like this certainly do not give this forum much credibility for new comers. It's not because a few mad scientists speculated about earthquake weapons that every earthquakes is caused by a secret weapon. HAARP by itself is not a proof either - who's to say it can cause earthquakes? No proof yet you believe it like it's a fact. Stop jumping to the "conspiracy" conclusion every time something happens. I guess you guys need to call Alex Jones and have him tell it to you himself.
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2010, 04:18:25 PM » |
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Oh gosh. HAARP again. Yeah sure, every weather events is caused by HAARP...  Is that the level of argumentation and discernment we have on the "infowars side" now? Threads like this certainly do not give this forum much credibility for new comers. It's not because a few mad scientists speculated about earthquake weapons that every earthquakes is caused by a secret weapon. HAARP by itself is not a proof either - who's to say it can cause earthquakes? No proof yet you believe it like it's a fact. Stop jumping to the "conspiracy" conclusion every time something happens. I guess you guys need to call Alex Jones and have him tell it to you himself. So what does HAARP actually do then ? Its there to do something right ?
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2010, 04:29:05 PM » |
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Oh gosh. HAARP again. Yeah sure, every weather events is caused by HAARP...
I would truly enjoy credible, professional-info that it was not HAARP. Or provide info that HAARP is not capable of this. From all reports that I have read up on, HAARP tech is advanced to the point where it can used as a weapon of enourmos proportions. If this can be proven to be the insane ramblings of the *professionals and *whistleblowers, please include this on site.
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2010, 04:34:08 PM » |
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So what does HAARP actually do then ?
Who knows what it does really? I'm not pretending I know like most of you here. I don't like pretending and jumping to conclusions, I rather just shut up. It's certainly capable of jamming communications on the planet or between satellites. You believe it create earthquakes, fine. I don't, it's a high frequency generator, high-frequencies cannot penetrate through the tectonic plates, and certainly not with enough strength to trigger a chain reaction earthquake - but what do I know about it, maybe you have maths that can prove your hypothesis? Since I will guess we are both too ignorant to actually be able to grasp the maths behind this, it is a matter of logic. Should I have to prove to Chris Jones it is not HAARP? I think not, in cases like this you have to prove the conspiracy theory, not the opposite. What kind of logic is this? : Prove to me oranges do not come from Venus... Well dude, I'm telling you they come from earth because I've always seen them on earth...
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Hey guys, guess what? There were earthquakes long before HAARP was constructed.
Was the 1906 SF quake caused by HAARP too?
To say that "it's gotta be HAARP" is ridiculous.
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2010, 04:39:46 PM » |
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Hey guys, guess what? There were earthquakes long before HAARP was constructed.
Was the 1906 SF quake caused by HAARP too?
To say that "it's gotta be HAARP" is ridiculous.
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2010, 04:43:29 PM » |
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I see what you did there. You shouldn't have. That hardly constitutes as proof that HAARP is the reason for all the weather ills that befall the planet. HAARP is there for a reason , enough said .
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I would truly enjoy credible, professional-info that it was not HAARP. Or provide info that HAARP is not capable of this. From all reports that I have read up on, HAARP tech is advanced to the point where it can used as a weapon of enourmos proportions. If this can be proven to be the insane ramblings of the *professionals and *whistleblowers, please include this on site.
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Oh gosh. HAARP again. Yeah sure, every weather events is caused by HAARP...
I would truly enjoy credible, professional-info that it was not HAARP. Or provide info that HAARP is not capable of this. From all reports that I have read up on, HAARP tech is advanced to the point where it can used as a weapon of enourmos proportions. If this can be proven to be the insane ramblings of the *professionals and *whistleblowers, please include this on site.
Chris, I'm sure you know that it's very difficult to prove a negative.
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Hi Xill. Thanks for the feedback. Ya I know that this was an impossible question thats kinda why I asked you. To pizz you off old son, No. It had results. We are looking at a high tech machine that has cost the people of this nation a good chunk of tax money $$. Why then the restricted info. Why this ultra secrecy. I never said it did create these earthquakes, I asked the impossible, prove it didn't. I do know that there have been professionals who have warned against this tech being used for negative military purposes, do you agree? Why would these gents stick their head on the chopping block and be labled as looneys? It is this that I have questioned, thats what caused me get on this from the beggining. Ya. I know it sounds like sci/fiction, a machine that can cause catastrophes,it seems to far fetched to give creedence to this accusation, is it, I can't prove it one way or another, but I have to question its function especialy so since the feedback I read on this site.. Hey xill, I wanted to get at is the possability this machine could raise hell, that it is not there for the benefit of mankind, rather as a weapon. In effect I beleive we the people are being kept in the dark about the exact use of this tech,and WHY?
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Most of you, of Course GeorgiaCopguy(seriously why are you here) and Xill are misconstruing an argument laid by Sane and Anti-Illuminati. They aren't declaring FULL OUT that HAARP caused the Earth quake in Haiti. They are saying that there is STRONG suspicion for it to be so. And if you have information to bring to the prisonplanet table regarding Earth quake seismic acitivity. Actual fact based studies on earth quakes, heck you could even be a professor on it we would welcome it. Unfortunately, lots of you people with presumptions, of not everything is a conspiracy cockamany , are not providing any sort of information to ENLIGHTEN the rest of us to how the geo tectonic plates really work. Fortunately, other members like Pilikia, AI, Sane are providing interesting info to read. Most of the time, I am busy. But I always stay on here to read myriads of data regarding the veritas of Humanity.
To wrap things up, THERE IS NO argument. You guys are trying to find ghosts or boogymen when no one is arguing anything pertinent enough to debate. SANE, AI are on the SAME boat as you guys. NONE of us TRULY know what is going on. But it you guys are trying to label us as kooks if a person like SANE suspects HUMAN intervention regarding Haiti 7.0 EQ. Really, you guys aren't fooling anyone, and you certainly wont get away with you chicanery here.
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Who knows what it does really? I'm not pretending I know like most of you here. I don't like pretending and jumping to conclusions, I rather just shut up. It's certainly capable of jamming communications on the planet or between satellites.
You believe it create earthquakes, fine. I don't, it's a high frequency generator, high-frequencies cannot penetrate through the tectonic plates, and certainly not with enough strength to trigger a chain reaction earthquake - but what do I know about it, maybe you have maths that can prove your hypothesis?
Since I will guess we are both too ignorant to actually be able to grasp the maths behind this, it is a matter of logic. Should I have to prove to Chris Jones it is not HAARP? I think not, in cases like this you have to prove the conspiracy theory, not the opposite.
What kind of logic is this? : Prove to me oranges do not come from Venus... Well dude, I'm telling you they come from earth because I've always seen them on earth...
HAARP is used for communicating with submarines and can "look" deep into the earth, that much is a fact, and is not hidden information...from the official site... Development of technology to use effects produced through ionospheric interactions. One example of this is learning how to generate new signals in the ELF range for the real application of subsurface communications also it CAN create a resonance (vibration) in the earth with these ELFs, and this is why it is said that it can create earthquakes, you can look on youtube and see it done (on a much smaller scale of course) and it does work, so then consider what , at it's power level, could be done...from the site concerning how much power it uses... The HF transmitter system is able to produce approximately 3.6 million Watts of radio frequency power. However, the HAARP transmitters have been designed to operate very linearly (in Class AB mode) so that they will not produce radio interference to other users of the radio spectrum. To achieve that degree of linearity, the transmitters operate at an efficiency of only about 45 %. For every 100 Watts of input power 45 Watts of Radio Frequency power is generated and the rest is lost in the transmitter cabinet as heat. (As an analogy, a 75 Watt light bulb gets quite hot while it's producing the light you actually see.) In addition, the on-site diesel generators must provide power for other equipment used by the transmitters including the cooling system and low level amplifier stages. As a result, approximately 10 million Watts of prime power will be required when the transmitter system is operating at full power. of course, they officially claim that weather cant be effected and that it is not a military weapon, but, they could be lying...there are many demonstrations that show that weather can indeed be effected, as well as plate tectonics, via resonance...one has to decide who they are going to believe/trust on the matter...
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HAARP is used for communicating with submarines and can "look" deep into the earth, that much is a fact, and is not hidden information...from the official site... also it CAN create a resonance (vibration) in the earth with these ELFs, and this is why it is said that it can create earthquakes, you can look on youtube and see it done (on a much smaller scale of course) and it does work, so then consider what , at it's power level, could be done...from the site concerning how much power it uses... of course, they officially claim that weather cant be effected and that it is not a military weapon, but, they could be lying...there are many demonstrations that show that weather can indeed be effected, as well as plate tectonics, via resonance...one has to decide who they are going to believe/trust on the matter...
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Most of you, of Course GeorgiaCopguy(seriously why are you here) and Xill are misconstruing an argument laid by Sane and Anti-Illuminati. They aren't declaring FULL OUT that HAARP caused the Earth quake in Haiti. They are saying that there is STRONG suspicion for it to be so. And if you have information to bring to the prisonplanet table regarding Earth quake seismic acitivity. Actual fact based studies on earth quakes, heck you could even be a professor on it we would welcome it. Unfortunately, lots of you people with presumptions, of not everything is a conspiracy cockamany , are not providing any sort of information to ENLIGHTEN the rest of us to how the geo tectonic plates really work. Fortunately, other members like Pilikia, AI, Sane are providing interesting info to read. Most of the time, I am busy. But I always stay on here to read myriads of data regarding the veritas of Humanity.
To wrap things up, THERE IS NO argument. You guys are trying to find ghosts or boogymen when no one is arguing anything pertinent enough to debate. SANE, AI are on the SAME boat as you guys. NONE of us TRULY know what is going on. But it you guys are trying to label us as kooks if a person like SANE suspects HUMAN intervention regarding Haiti 7.0 EQ. Really, you guys aren't fooling anyone, and you certainly wont get away with you chicanery here.
excellent response Joseon. There are too many questions that need answered. like why there was a training mission for disaster response the day before the earthquake? why was disaster training going on in Haiti at the time of the earthquake? why the immediate response of the military? what are the chances of disaster training going on at the same time of a disaster, just like 911? why was Clinton the U.N rep for Haiti? why is Hillary taking such a major role in Haiti now? these are not just coincidences. this shit was planned. it may not have been HAARP, but it was manufactured, it was planned for, and it happened.
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200 miles away from caracas...
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Most of you, of Course GeorgiaCopguy(seriously why are you here) and Xill are misconstruing an argument laid by Sane and Anti-Illuminati. Sounds like he's saying someone's involved, if not HAARP. And, given his other posts, the minor assumption on our parts fits pretty well. If they're not trying to say it (by saying it) than they are irresponsibly using exaggeration and sensationalism to try to make a point that does NOT come across in what they are saying. But the problem is there is no evidence to support a "strong suspicion." Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? No. Not with current information. Should HAARP be transparent in its capabilities and use? f**k yes. Should we make statements as if we know what's going on when we don't? f**k no.
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Sounds like he's saying someone's involved, if not HAARP. And, given his other posts, the minor assumption on our parts fits pretty well.
If they're not trying to say it (by saying it) than they are irresponsibly using exaggeration and sensationalism to try to make a point that does NOT come across in what they are saying. But the problem is there is no evidence to support a "strong suspicion." Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? No. Not with current information.
Should HAARP be transparent in its capabilities and use? f**k yes.
Should we make statements as if we know what's going on when we don't? f**k no.
That's your opinion, and quite dour in that regards. I don't interpret SANE and AI to be exaggerating or sensationalizing HAARP. And yes there is some evidence, through interesting coincidences that AI and SANE and scientific papers have provided. Either you are blind to read it or learn it or you are ruefully retorting a provocative rebuttal that bears no merit to what SANE and AI and the the rest of reasonable are trying to inquire about. AND yes, learn to read, there is information about HAARP technology you dolt. It is VERY possible for MAN to have created the earthquake in Port Au Prince. That is what Sane and the rest of us are trying to get across to you. Anyway, I'm not going to listen to what you have to say, if you do not carry an open mind and critical conscience.
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I'm a pessimist, I'm a truther, i ask questions, I do not fall for the government version of anything. But at the same time, I don't take a theory as gospel anymore than i take the government version. I want rock solid proof, not this limp shit that the HAARPies are out spewing about how its HAARP this and HAARP that. So just because, by your logic, I was a cop, I have no business being here? despite the officers I brought to the light, the ones i educated on what they were helping to commit agaisnt people, the officers I trained who arent just brainless drones, but actual thinkers? Go shove it up your ass you truth snob. ANYBODY who sees the government for what it is should be here, and truth snobs like you stand a high chance of running those very same people off with your hate and distrust. And while some of us do not provide a myriad of data for you to peruse, we should at least remain skeptical of any theory that winds it's way down the pipe, so that in the end, we aren't all just a bunch of follower sheep/lemmings. There are certain theories within this truth community that could prove detrimental to this community, and i as a skeptic would like for the community to distance itself from them. Talk of reptilians, moon bases, HAARP controlling weather and earthquakes, and UFOs and little green men being the chief offenders. ALL of those can do significant damage to this community should the MSM decide its good ammo against us, and harm our credibility. Frankly, if there is no proof either way, we should be distrustful of a theory. Why people insist on embracing a theory when there is little basis for fact either way disturbs me. Maybe it was my time as an investigator that made me yearn for hard cold proof and facts. But there is room for skeptics here, because goddamn, we are all skeptics of something around here. Most of you, of Course GeorgiaCopguy(seriously why are you here) and Xill are misconstruing an argument laid by Sane and Anti-Illuminati. They aren't declaring FULL OUT that HAARP caused the Earth quake in Haiti. They are saying that there is STRONG suspicion for it to be so. And if you have information to bring to the prisonplanet table regarding Earth quake seismic acitivity. Actual fact based studies on earth quakes, heck you could even be a professor on it we would welcome it. Unfortunately, lots of you people with presumptions, of not everything is a conspiracy cockamany , are not providing any sort of information to ENLIGHTEN the rest of us to how the geo tectonic plates really work. Fortunately, other members like Pilikia, AI, Sane are providing interesting info to read. Most of the time, I am busy. But I always stay on here to read myriads of data regarding the veritas of Humanity.
To wrap things up, THERE IS NO argument. You guys are trying to find ghosts or boogymen when no one is arguing anything pertinent enough to debate. SANE, AI are on the SAME boat as you guys. NONE of us TRULY know what is going on. But it you guys are trying to label us as kooks if a person like SANE suspects HUMAN intervention regarding Haiti 7.0 EQ. Really, you guys aren't fooling anyone, and you certainly wont get away with you chicanery here.
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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2010, 04:00:52 PM » |
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I'm a pessimist, I'm a truther, i ask questions, I do not fall for the government version of anything. But at the same time, I don't take a theory as gospel anymore than i take the government version. I want rock solid proof, not this limp shit that the HAARPies are out spewing about how its HAARP this and HAARP that. So just because, by your logic, I was a cop, I have no business being here? despite the officers I brought to the light, the ones i educated on what they were helping to commit agaisnt people, the officers I trained who arent just brainless drones, but actual thinkers? Go shove it up your ass you truth snob. ANYBODY who sees the government for what it is should be here, and truth snobs like you stand a high chance of running those very same people off with your hate and distrust.
And while some of us do not provide a myriad of data for you to peruse, we should at least remain skeptical of any theory that winds it's way down the pipe, so that in the end, we aren't all just a bunch of follower sheep/lemmings. There are certain theories within this truth community that could prove detrimental to this community, and i as a skeptic would like for the community to distance itself from them. Talk of reptilians, moon bases, HAARP controlling weather and earthquakes, and UFOs and little green men being the chief offenders. ALL of those can do significant damage to this community should the MSM decide its good ammo against us, and harm our credibility. Frankly, if there is no proof either way, we should be distrustful of a theory. Why people insist on embracing a theory when there is little basis for fact either way disturbs me. Maybe it was my time as an investigator that made me yearn for hard cold proof and facts. But there is room for skeptics here, because goddamn, we are all skeptics of something around here.
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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2010, 04:23:53 PM » |
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http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm#weaponizationScalar interferometry, Tesla howitzer, Tesla dome, heat/cold, dudding, 10 nations have them, dead-man fusing & Insane Systems, scalar strategy, earthquakes and weather wars, solar storms, mind attacks, leased to Yakuza, many examples of testing, quantum potential weapons. "Indeed, Soviet energetics weapons are now capable of destroying both our triad shield, our homeland, our armed forces in the field, and our population, quickly and efficiently. We have a new "gap" of monumental proportions: not a missile gap, not a submarine or bomber gap, and not even a particle beam or laser gap. We have a scalar electromagnetics or electrogravitation gap." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/intro.htm "We have a new weapon, just within the portfolio of our scientists, so to speak, which is so powerful that, if unrestrainedly used, it could wipe out all life on earth. It is a fantastic weapon." Khrushchev, to the Presidium, Jan. 1960 "We've totally missed the most incredible "secret superweapons" development program of all times, and the worldwide testing of the weapons themselves. "Hiroshima and Nagasaki should serve as object lessons in the price of ignorance of such technological breakthroughs. "History does repeat itself. But this time it's not we Americans who got the great new superweapon first." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s75.htmWarfare has been changed forever by the development of these scalar energy longitudinal wave howitzers. To get a basic understanding of scalar waves is to have the imagination suddenly run wild as all the implications and possibilities regarding warfare fall into place. One realizes with a certain horror that the world has totally changed, and that there are some very fearsome possibilities. Remember, the power for these weapons comes from the time domain, longitudinal EM waves in the vacuum of empty space, and the power is tremendous and mind-boggling. Being able to blast away at any target from a distant control booth is something that has never happened before. This is incredible power to be in control of and it divides the history of weaponry into "before" and "after." And the destructive power of these weapons is delivered instantaneously to the target from the local vacuum at the place of the target. From an interview: Questioner: "Are you saying that real energy can be transmitted faster than the speed of light?" Bearden: "Yes. But hyperspatially. Not through 3-space, but "around" it. Again, this means that it's possible to produce energetic changes in a distant system at a distant place, without transmitting energy "through space" in the normal sense. You transmit "around" space, so to speak, and directly in time or through a higher dimension, depending on the model you're using to understand this. Further, the speed of the internal EM energy transmission is not limited to the speed of light." http://twm.co.nz/beard_interview.htmHere are some initial considerations about scalar weapons and scalar wars 1. Tesla Howitzer 2. Tesla Domes 3. Rogue groups 4. WW III 5. Russian "UFOs?" 1. The Tesla Howitzer and its modes of action Source: Tom Bearden's weapons slides and Fer-de-Lance Briefing For one thing there is no delivery of any thing to any place. Bombs are obsolete. So are the planes to get them there. No helicopters necessary. All current nuclear devices are rendered nearly useless by electronic "dudding." All distant-destruction can be done from a control room, and to any point on earth. The destructive power of "men" has just increased by orders of magnitude. The new weapons could even cause storms on the sun! Thus there is great urgency to make these new facts public and known, with the hope that all nations would come together to ban the use of scalar weapons. Two scalar antennae together along with the computers to control them, make up a scalar interferometer, and according to Col. Bearden the Russians have hundreds of such installations already. These interferometers are called "Tesla Howitzers." They can deliver a giant blast of energy to the distant target site, true "action-at-a-distance". The first howitzer mode is called the "exothermic" mode of operation because immense EM energy blasts outward at the target site. The blast of a scalar howitzer can be of near nuclear level in destructiveness, and can be repeated easily, at that place, or nearby, or anywhere. The howitzer can use a lesser exothermic power setting and simply destroy all electronics in the target area. Thus they can render our nuclear missiles inoperable as they sit in their silos by "frying" the electronic circuits that guide them. They can bring down any airplane, anywhere in the world, at any time. Any person anywhere, if their exact position is known, can be assassinated without a shot being fired. The howitzers can also bring down power grids anywhere in the world, at any time. Thus they could bring Wall Street to an instant halt by disabling all its electronics. Even this one little easy tweak of the howitzer could cripple the U.S. economy in a single day. No wonder the "leaders" don't want you to know! This is a new era we are in. The discovery and development of scalar interferometry has put us in a new world, whether we like it or not. Anyone could be expected to go into denial, the befuddled senators and congressmen included. But we have to wake up. In a second howitzer mode called the "endothermic" mode, the howitzer sucks energy out of the target area, essentially creating a blast of cold at the distant target. It is even capable of freezing parts of the ocean. Bearden gives a number of cases where these "cold explosions" have been witnessed, mostly by airline pilots. April 9, 1984: 1 2 3 ) A huge mushroom cloud of mostly water is seen rising miles into the sky from out of the ocean, an awesome sight. In the endothermic mode the sucked-out energy must go somewhere, so it is vented out at some other chosen spot on the earth. These endothermic plumes have been photographed by satellite. "The exhaust in the left picture is about 150 miles long, and is nearly horizontal (about 1.5 degrees above the horizontal). It is entirely consistent with the continuous exhaust from a "dumping transfer" scalar EM howitzer in the continuous exothermic mode. (The primary howitzer, of course, was activated in the endothermic mode.)" Bearden More Plumes By using both of these heat (exothermic) and cold (endothermic) modes together the weather can be altered anywhere. Warm the air over here, cool it down over there, put a curl in the jet stream, dissipate clouds, create clouds, whip up a tornado. Bearden speaks about using the endothermic howitzer mode as a weapon of war: "Cold explosions can be used to freeze tanks, personnel, and equipment. The equipment and tanks thaw out. The personnel thaw out too, but they are dead when they do." Bearden, Fer-de-Lance (This endothermic mode of the howitzers makes me think that there might one day be a cure for the problem of global warming after all. Could not a big device, situated in space or on the moon, be able to vent a great deal of excess heat outside the atmosphere into space, thus functioning as a kind of planetary thermostat?) While the United States has experimented with electomagnetic weapons using ordinary transverse EM waves, the longitudinal [LW] weaponized waves are truly of another order altogether. For one thing they do not have to travel through space, for they come from the time domain, which is everywhere. The energy of the blast, the heat or light or whatever, comes from the vacuum of space at the location of the target itself. This is astonishing. The weapons actually just trigger the release of immense energy from the vacuum at the target location. "... it is possible to focus the potential for the effects of a weapon through spacetime itself, in a manner so that mass and energy do not "travel through space" from the transmitter to the target at all. Instead, ripples and patterns in the fabric of spacetime itself are manipulated to meet and interfere in and at the local spacetime of some distant target. There interference of these ripple patterns creates the desired energetic effect (hence the term energetics) directly in and through the target itself, emerging from the very spacetime (vacuum) in which the target is imbedded at its distant location." Bearden Fer-de-Lance The big Tesla howitzers are aimed at their targets by using a worldwide electromagnetic pattern called the "Woodpecker Grid," begun by the Russians in 1976. You can hear the Woodpecker signal here: http://www.cheniere.org/misc/woodpeckersound.htmThe woodpecker grid is just that, a grid of EM waves which provide a channel for the LW waves to any point on earth. Computers use the woodpecker grid information to hone down the aiming of the howitzers to a pinpoint location on earth. (For that matter, it could be under the earth, in space, or under the sea). A third howitzer mode is what Col. Bearden calls "Mindsnapper" mode. This is a truly frightening mode which affects the electromagnetic mind-body connection. Being mind-snapped at a low level would cause you to lose consciousness. Being mind-snapped at a slightly higher power would "entrain" all minds in the target area into a kind of hypnogogic trance, a state in which they would all be highly susceptible to suggestions and orders. Being mind-snapped at high level would so disrupt the mind-body connection that everyone in the target area would fall down, instantly dead. Not only that, everything around you and inside you would be killed, so that your sterilized body would not rot for quite a long time. The Mindsnapper can be used for a small area, or to kill an entire population. In fact, using the scalar waves to affect the human mind has become a new field in its own right, and has been dubbed "psychoenergetics." (This is discussed below in section 5). Bearden describes the use of the howitzer in mind-snapping mode against people, to cause unconsciousness or death: "From a military viewpoint, these scalar EM weapons are really quite all-around weapons. "For example, they are very lethal against personnel. "Set in the "high intensity pulse mode," one blast and a person's nervous system is destroyed instantly. Total, instantaneous death results. One can blast away at entire groups of infantrymen, for example. It's the peak power that's important, not the average power. So the weapon doesn't require too much battery power. "Set on a lower intensity pulse mode, one zap can simply knock out a person, rendering him instantly unconscious. Quite useful if one needs prisoners to interrogate. Also very silent, which is useful in operations employing stealth and surprise." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s80.htm "Those hit by the scalar EM weapon, however, have a most peculiar death mode. "Death comes-instantly and totally. There is no convulsion, no response. The entire nervous system is destroyed instantly. Every living cell in the body is killed instantly, including all bacteria, germs, etc. "A body hit with this thing falls like a limp rag and lies where it falls. It doesn't decay in even 30-45 days. In a macabre fashion, it's been reduced to something like food irradiated with nuclear radiation; everything is killed, so the material is preserved for an extended period before any decay can set in." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s81.htmHe goes on to say that the same "bazooka-sized scalar EM pulse weapon" can also be used to knock out a tank with one shot (or pulse). So tank warfare is obsolete. Helicopters? Bearden points out: "... if he's attacked by a helicopter or a fixed-wing aircraft, he can bring the same weapon to bear on it. He can knock down a chopper or a jet. With one shot." Obituary for Tank Warfare Tanks useless against portable LW weapons "For example, suppose one attacks a tank. [with an LW weapon] With scalar EM pulse, the personnel die instantly. Total personnel kill is achieved. All electronic systems of the tank are dudded. Total systems kill is achieved. The ammunition in the tank explodes. Total kill is achieved. The fuel explodes. This is another total kill mechanism. That tank has been killed totally, by a variety of mechanisms, all simultaneously. That's a k-kill in any analyst's book. And don't worry about retrieval and repair. That tank is finished permanently. Even the most modern tank is just as vulnerable as the most obsolete." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s88.htmOne begins to get the idea how profoundly the conventional means of warfare have been obsoleted. All the usual weapons of war have been rendered nearly useless! And Star Trek's "Phaser," with its "stun" and "kill" modes is here at last. Although it is the weapons aspect of scalar electromagnetic which has received the most developmental effort, Bearden points out that a great many other amazing things that may be accomplished in this new field of science. Beam me up Scotty! "Superluminal communications systems, hyperspace drive, and materialization and dematerialization are all hypothetically possible, using scalar electromagnetics. As the technology develops, we should see the development of many of the systems long thought impossible except in science- fiction." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s15.htmBearden describes a huge test of the Russian scalar weapons systems which occurred in 1985, a test that went completely unnoticed by western scientists: "Just before May 1, 1985 the Soviet Union performed a "full-up" operational test of their entire strategic scalar EM weapons complex. This test was detected and monitored periodically by Frank Golden. Some 27 of these giant Soviet "power taps" were locked into the molten core of the earth, producing forced (entrained) scalar resonance of the entire planet on 54 controlled frequencies under our very feet. The remainder of the scalar frequency spectrum was ablaze with literally hundreds of Soviet scalar transmitters: probably the entire strategic scalar command and control system to underwater submarines, higher command centers, distant commands, etc. was activated in the giant exercise. "For several days, the system was exercised on a mind-boggling scale, apparently as part of the Soviet Union's highly accentuated 40th anniversary celebration of the end of World War II. "Ironically, not a single U.S. intelligence agency, laboratory, or scientist detected this monstrous exercise for the new Soviet leader, Gorbachev. Not a one of them had a detector for scalar EM radiation, and not a one of them officially believes the exercise ever happened." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s38.htm "The Woodpecker grid/howitzer weapon system can be placed over the ocean and used against cruise missiles, naval surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles, submarine-launched ballistic and cruise missiles, etc. Placed over a carrier task force, it can also take care of the aircraft launched by the carrier as fast as they are launched. It can also handily take care of the missiles launched by guided-missile cruisers of the accompanying task force." (Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s65.htm ) The whole series of the Fer-de-Lance briefing slides and comments is a "must read" for anyone wanting to be aware of the actual state of things in this world right now. It is a new world and it takes some getting used to. Fer-de-Lance speaks clearly, for the layman, of the way things stand. What is it like to operate these Tesla Howitzers? Col. Bearden gives us an idea in his "Fer-de-Lance" briefing, Slides 66-71. Who needs armies anymore? A entire war can be fought and won by a handful of men sitting in a comfortable control booth! The scalar electromagnetics revolution has made all previous forms of warfare nearly obsolete.
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« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2010, 04:32:15 PM » |
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Ok, having a christian moment here.Did Jesus not say this was coming?Did Jesus have HAARP? I wont pretend to understand everything about HAARP but I am thinking our bad storm here in eastern NC was moe HAARP related. Just my .02.
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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2010, 04:46:36 PM » |
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Ok, having a christian moment here.Did Jesus not say this was coming?Did Jesus have HAARP? I wont pretend to understand everything about HAARP but I am thinking our bad storm here in eastern NC was moe HAARP related. Just my .02.
I don't think Jesus needed HAARP. I wonder though about the bible and technology. Technology can be used for evil and to fulfill prophecy. HAARP, Project BlueBeam, all these weird sound and microwave weapons and everything that Anti_Illuminati says. The thing is that today these things are possible. There is a fair chance that man can cause earthquakes. Through technology-voodoo. Modern black majic.
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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2010, 04:50:04 PM » |
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I'm a pessimist, I'm a truther, i ask questions, I do not fall for the government version of anything. But at the same time, I don't take a theory as gospel anymore than i take the government version. I want rock solid proof, not this limp shit that the HAARPies are out spewing about how its HAARP this and HAARP that. So just because, by your logic, I was a cop, I have no business being here? despite the officers I brought to the light, the ones i educated on what they were helping to commit agaisnt people, the officers I trained who arent just brainless drones, but actual thinkers? Go shove it up your ass you truth snob. ANYBODY who sees the government for what it is should be here, and truth snobs like you stand a high chance of running those very same people off with your hate and distrust.
And while some of us do not provide a myriad of data for you to peruse, we should at least remain skeptical of any theory that winds it's way down the pipe, so that in the end, we aren't all just a bunch of follower sheep/lemmings. There are certain theories within this truth community that could prove detrimental to this community, and i as a skeptic would like for the community to distance itself from them. Talk of reptilians, moon bases, HAARP controlling weather and earthquakes, and UFOs and little green men being the chief offenders. ALL of those can do significant damage to this community should the MSM decide its good ammo against us, and harm our credibility. Frankly, if there is no proof either way, we should be distrustful of a theory. Why people insist on embracing a theory when there is little basis for fact either way disturbs me. Maybe it was my time as an investigator that made me yearn for hard cold proof and facts. But there is room for skeptics here, because goddamn, we are all skeptics of something around here.
Hi G. I love a good rant, thanks. Ya, I do them all the time too. Hey, good cops are hard to come by these days, glad to hear ya get it out there. I worked a beat a few years in the early 70's, riots times,, its hard way to go. Yup, there were some good folk on the force and some real nasty corrupt ones too. You walked a tightrope having a conscience and bringing around those you could reach. Good on ya. I'm an old fart, you may be too. What I'm driving at is we may tend to see things in black and white, no grey matter whatsoever. Folks on here who I respect deeply for their conviction and dedication I have disagreed with, as difficult for me as this was, I have to admit I could not see the harm in certain things such as a couple of films etc for example.. You have made a point that hit me as I too tend to focus on the regime and their deceptions, the wars,the genocide, the domestic domination, those things that are in my face, that I detest. Those on board that label all cops as the bad guys, we know there are some decent ones, they too may get a grip on it, I hate labeling without reservations, what can I say, thats the way it is for me, to old to change now. No matter, the deal is a rant is good at times, gets out the grit. thanks.
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« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2010, 04:54:33 PM » |
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http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm#weaponizationScalar interferometry, Tesla howitzer, Tesla dome, heat/cold, dudding, 10 nations have them, dead-man fusing & Insane Systems, scalar strategy, earthquakes and weather wars, solar storms, mind attacks, leased to Yakuza, many examples of testing, quantum potential weapons. "Indeed, Soviet energetics weapons are now capable of destroying both our triad shield, our homeland, our armed forces in the field, and our population, quickly and efficiently. We have a new "gap" of monumental proportions: not a missile gap, not a submarine or bomber gap, and not even a particle beam or laser gap. We have a scalar electromagnetics or electrogravitation gap." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/intro.htm "We have a new weapon, just within the portfolio of our scientists, so to speak, which is so powerful that, if unrestrainedly used, it could wipe out all life on earth. It is a fantastic weapon." Khrushchev, to the Presidium, Jan. 1960 "We've totally missed the most incredible "secret superweapons" development program of all times, and the worldwide testing of the weapons themselves. "Hiroshima and Nagasaki should serve as object lessons in the price of ignorance of such technological breakthroughs. "History does repeat itself. But this time it's not we Americans who got the great new superweapon first." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s75.htmWarfare has been changed forever by the development of these scalar energy longitudinal wave howitzers. To get a basic understanding of scalar waves is to have the imagination suddenly run wild as all the implications and possibilities regarding warfare fall into place. One realizes with a certain horror that the world has totally changed, and that there are some very fearsome possibilities. Remember, the power for these weapons comes from the time domain, longitudinal EM waves in the vacuum of empty space, and the power is tremendous and mind-boggling. Being able to blast away at any target from a distant control booth is something that has never happened before. This is incredible power to be in control of and it divides the history of weaponry into "before" and "after." And the destructive power of these weapons is delivered instantaneously to the target from the local vacuum at the place of the target. From an interview: Questioner: "Are you saying that real energy can be transmitted faster than the speed of light?" Bearden: "Yes. But hyperspatially. Not through 3-space, but "around" it. Again, this means that it's possible to produce energetic changes in a distant system at a distant place, without transmitting energy "through space" in the normal sense. You transmit "around" space, so to speak, and directly in time or through a higher dimension, depending on the model you're using to understand this. Further, the speed of the internal EM energy transmission is not limited to the speed of light." http://twm.co.nz/beard_interview.htmHere are some initial considerations about scalar weapons and scalar wars 1. Tesla Howitzer 2. Tesla Domes 3. Rogue groups 4. WW III 5. Russian "UFOs?" 1. The Tesla Howitzer and its modes of action Source: Tom Bearden's weapons slides and Fer-de-Lance Briefing For one thing there is no delivery of any thing to any place. Bombs are obsolete. So are the planes to get them there. No helicopters necessary. All current nuclear devices are rendered nearly useless by electronic "dudding." All distant-destruction can be done from a control room, and to any point on earth. The destructive power of "men" has just increased by orders of magnitude. The new weapons could even cause storms on the sun! Thus there is great urgency to make these new facts public and known, with the hope that all nations would come together to ban the use of scalar weapons. Two scalar antennae together along with the computers to control them, make up a scalar interferometer, and according to Col. Bearden the Russians have hundreds of such installations already. These interferometers are called "Tesla Howitzers." They can deliver a giant blast of energy to the distant target site, true "action-at-a-distance". The first howitzer mode is called the "exothermic" mode of operation because immense EM energy blasts outward at the target site. The blast of a scalar howitzer can be of near nuclear level in destructiveness, and can be repeated easily, at that place, or nearby, or anywhere. The howitzer can use a lesser exothermic power setting and simply destroy all electronics in the target area. Thus they can render our nuclear missiles inoperable as they sit in their silos by "frying" the electronic circuits that guide them. They can bring down any airplane, anywhere in the world, at any time. Any person anywhere, if their exact position is known, can be assassinated without a shot being fired. The howitzers can also bring down power grids anywhere in the world, at any time. Thus they could bring Wall Street to an instant halt by disabling all its electronics. Even this one little easy tweak of the howitzer could cripple the U.S. economy in a single day. No wonder the "leaders" don't want you to know! This is a new era we are in. The discovery and development of scalar interferometry has put us in a new world, whether we like it or not. Anyone could be expected to go into denial, the befuddled senators and congressmen included. But we have to wake up. In a second howitzer mode called the "endothermic" mode, the howitzer sucks energy out of the target area, essentially creating a blast of cold at the distant target. It is even capable of freezing parts of the ocean. Bearden gives a number of cases where these "cold explosions" have been witnessed, mostly by airline pilots. April 9, 1984: 1 2 3 ) A huge mushroom cloud of mostly water is seen rising miles into the sky from out of the ocean, an awesome sight. In the endothermic mode the sucked-out energy must go somewhere, so it is vented out at some other chosen spot on the earth. These endothermic plumes have been photographed by satellite. "The exhaust in the left picture is about 150 miles long, and is nearly horizontal (about 1.5 degrees above the horizontal). It is entirely consistent with the continuous exhaust from a "dumping transfer" scalar EM howitzer in the continuous exothermic mode. (The primary howitzer, of course, was activated in the endothermic mode.)" Bearden More Plumes By using both of these heat (exothermic) and cold (endothermic) modes together the weather can be altered anywhere. Warm the air over here, cool it down over there, put a curl in the jet stream, dissipate clouds, create clouds, whip up a tornado. Bearden speaks about using the endothermic howitzer mode as a weapon of war: "Cold explosions can be used to freeze tanks, personnel, and equipment. The equipment and tanks thaw out. The personnel thaw out too, but they are dead when they do." Bearden, Fer-de-Lance (This endothermic mode of the howitzers makes me think that there might one day be a cure for the problem of global warming after all. Could not a big device, situated in space or on the moon, be able to vent a great deal of excess heat outside the atmosphere into space, thus functioning as a kind of planetary thermostat?) While the United States has experimented with electomagnetic weapons using ordinary transverse EM waves, the longitudinal [LW] weaponized waves are truly of another order altogether. For one thing they do not have to travel through space, for they come from the time domain, which is everywhere. The energy of the blast, the heat or light or whatever, comes from the vacuum of space at the location of the target itself. This is astonishing. The weapons actually just trigger the release of immense energy from the vacuum at the target location. "... it is possible to focus the potential for the effects of a weapon through spacetime itself, in a manner so that mass and energy do not "travel through space" from the transmitter to the target at all. Instead, ripples and patterns in the fabric of spacetime itself are manipulated to meet and interfere in and at the local spacetime of some distant target. There interference of these ripple patterns creates the desired energetic effect (hence the term energetics) directly in and through the target itself, emerging from the very spacetime (vacuum) in which the target is imbedded at its distant location." Bearden Fer-de-Lance The big Tesla howitzers are aimed at their targets by using a worldwide electromagnetic pattern called the "Woodpecker Grid," begun by the Russians in 1976. You can hear the Woodpecker signal here: http://www.cheniere.org/misc/woodpeckersound.htmThe woodpecker grid is just that, a grid of EM waves which provide a channel for the LW waves to any point on earth. Computers use the woodpecker grid information to hone down the aiming of the howitzers to a pinpoint location on earth. (For that matter, it could be under the earth, in space, or under the sea). A third howitzer mode is what Col. Bearden calls "Mindsnapper" mode. This is a truly frightening mode which affects the electromagnetic mind-body connection. Being mind-snapped at a low level would cause you to lose consciousness. Being mind-snapped at a slightly higher power would "entrain" all minds in the target area into a kind of hypnogogic trance, a state in which they would all be highly susceptible to suggestions and orders. Being mind-snapped at high level would so disrupt the mind-body connection that everyone in the target area would fall down, instantly dead. Not only that, everything around you and inside you would be killed, so that your sterilized body would not rot for quite a long time. The Mindsnapper can be used for a small area, or to kill an entire population. In fact, using the scalar waves to affect the human mind has become a new field in its own right, and has been dubbed "psychoenergetics." (This is discussed below in section 5). Bearden describes the use of the howitzer in mind-snapping mode against people, to cause unconsciousness or death: "From a military viewpoint, these scalar EM weapons are really quite all-around weapons. "For example, they are very lethal against personnel. "Set in the "high intensity pulse mode," one blast and a person's nervous system is destroyed instantly. Total, instantaneous death results. One can blast away at entire groups of infantrymen, for example. It's the peak power that's important, not the average power. So the weapon doesn't require too much battery power. "Set on a lower intensity pulse mode, one zap can simply knock out a person, rendering him instantly unconscious. Quite useful if one needs prisoners to interrogate. Also very silent, which is useful in operations employing stealth and surprise." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s80.htm "Those hit by the scalar EM weapon, however, have a most peculiar death mode. "Death comes-instantly and totally. There is no convulsion, no response. The entire nervous system is destroyed instantly. Every living cell in the body is killed instantly, including all bacteria, germs, etc. "A body hit with this thing falls like a limp rag and lies where it falls. It doesn't decay in even 30-45 days. In a macabre fashion, it's been reduced to something like food irradiated with nuclear radiation; everything is killed, so the material is preserved for an extended period before any decay can set in." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s81.htmHe goes on to say that the same "bazooka-sized scalar EM pulse weapon" can also be used to knock out a tank with one shot (or pulse). So tank warfare is obsolete. Helicopters? Bearden points out: "... if he's attacked by a helicopter or a fixed-wing aircraft, he can bring the same weapon to bear on it. He can knock down a chopper or a jet. With one shot." Obituary for Tank Warfare Tanks useless against portable LW weapons "For example, suppose one attacks a tank. [with an LW weapon] With scalar EM pulse, the personnel die instantly. Total personnel kill is achieved. All electronic systems of the tank are dudded. Total systems kill is achieved. The ammunition in the tank explodes. Total kill is achieved. The fuel explodes. This is another total kill mechanism. That tank has been killed totally, by a variety of mechanisms, all simultaneously. That's a k-kill in any analyst's book. And don't worry about retrieval and repair. That tank is finished permanently. Even the most modern tank is just as vulnerable as the most obsolete." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s88.htmOne begins to get the idea how profoundly the conventional means of warfare have been obsoleted. All the usual weapons of war have been rendered nearly useless! And Star Trek's "Phaser," with its "stun" and "kill" modes is here at last. Although it is the weapons aspect of scalar electromagnetic which has received the most developmental effort, Bearden points out that a great many other amazing things that may be accomplished in this new field of science. Beam me up Scotty! "Superluminal communications systems, hyperspace drive, and materialization and dematerialization are all hypothetically possible, using scalar electromagnetics. As the technology develops, we should see the development of many of the systems long thought impossible except in science- fiction." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s15.htmBearden describes a huge test of the Russian scalar weapons systems which occurred in 1985, a test that went completely unnoticed by western scientists: "Just before May 1, 1985 the Soviet Union performed a "full-up" operational test of their entire strategic scalar EM weapons complex. This test was detected and monitored periodically by Frank Golden. Some 27 of these giant Soviet "power taps" were locked into the molten core of the earth, producing forced (entrained) scalar resonance of the entire planet on 54 controlled frequencies under our very feet. The remainder of the scalar frequency spectrum was ablaze with literally hundreds of Soviet scalar transmitters: probably the entire strategic scalar command and control system to underwater submarines, higher command centers, distant commands, etc. was activated in the giant exercise. "For several days, the system was exercised on a mind-boggling scale, apparently as part of the Soviet Union's highly accentuated 40th anniversary celebration of the end of World War II. "Ironically, not a single U.S. intelligence agency, laboratory, or scientist detected this monstrous exercise for the new Soviet leader, Gorbachev. Not a one of them had a detector for scalar EM radiation, and not a one of them officially believes the exercise ever happened." Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s38.htm "The Woodpecker grid/howitzer weapon system can be placed over the ocean and used against cruise missiles, naval surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles, submarine-launched ballistic and cruise missiles, etc. Placed over a carrier task force, it can also take care of the aircraft launched by the carrier as fast as they are launched. It can also handily take care of the missiles launched by guided-missile cruisers of the accompanying task force." (Bearden http://www.cheniere.org/books/ferdelance/s65.htm ) The whole series of the Fer-de-Lance briefing slides and comments is a "must read" for anyone wanting to be aware of the actual state of things in this world right now. It is a new world and it takes some getting used to. Fer-de-Lance speaks clearly, for the layman, of the way things stand. What is it like to operate these Tesla Howitzers? Col. Bearden gives us an idea in his "Fer-de-Lance" briefing, Slides 66-71. Who needs armies anymore? A entire war can be fought and won by a handful of men sitting in a comfortable control booth! The scalar electromagnetics revolution has made all previous forms of warfare nearly obsolete. that's pretty F*cked up...
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 " a positive attitude won't solve all of life's problems, but it will piss enough people off to make it worth the effort."
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« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2010, 05:02:34 PM » |
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I don't think Jesus needed HAARP. I wonder though about the bible and technology. Technology can be used for evil and to fulfill prophecy. HAARP, Project BlueBeam, all these weird sound and microwave weapons and everything that Anti_Illuminati says. The thing is that today these things are possible. There is a fair chance that man can cause earthquakes. Through technology-voodoo. Modern black majic.
That is a good point and possibly what Jesus was prophecing(sp).I thought HAARP worked with heating up the air,moving clouds,ect...Call me a skeptic.But maybe he knew.I don't.
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