***Debra Medina*** Proof that the truth movement is a bona fide voting block

[Viper]

"Before the victory's won, some would be misunderstood and called bad names and dismissed as rabble rousers and agitators, but we shall overcome. And I tell you why: We shall overcome because the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice".
MLK

[Freeski]

Centexan, sorry but I don't get this part:

"If Medina loses by a thin margin, people are going to blame Alex Jones."

Doesn't that statement presuppose she actually has some sort of chance, even after the Beck sleaze and all that's followed?

[centexan]

Oh, she definitely has a chance, Freeski.

Texas has an open primary.  Most of the polls they show sample ONLY Rep or Dem.  But Dems can cross over and vote Rep.  Hell, I crossed over and voted for Dukakis once just to help put the weakest candidate in the race.  See how that works?  A lot of states have "closed" primaries and the folks there can't relate.

So yeah, she has a chance.  I think she'll beat Hutchison.  Hope she will, at least.  Then she can ask Perry about 9/11 and all sorts of stuff.

Edit--not talking down to you on the primary stuff.  Hell, most of my neighbors don't even know that they can vote in the "other party's" primary.

[jofortruth]

I think this has gone on long enough! Everyone is doing nothing, but talking in circles and maintaining their own positions on this issue and solving nothing. We need to learn a lesson from what happened. I think that lesson is: that we should have been more FOCUSED ON DERAILING THE PERRY CAMPAIGN, than the Medina campaign. Who is the greater smuck here? PERRY, hands down, IMO!

It was never about WINNING, IMO! It was about sending the establishment a message and trying to empower more Americans to get involved in their government. This was another Ron Paul type campaign that was to serve as a means to wake up people and get them to care about what happens in their government and to start taking action! This is the one success that came out of this fiasco, is that people all over the country felt empowered to stand up and run for office.

However, the funny thing is we got sidelined into holding a brand new rookie politician more accountable than the smuck in office, RICK PERRY, who has been lying to and deceiving Texans for over 9 years. HOW DID WE HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE WHEN WE SHIFTED TO MEDINA AND GAVE HER ALL THE FLACK AND ALL OF OUR ATTENTION, as Perry then just flew beneath the radar to a new win? It appears to me that this is exactly what he helped contrive, with the help of the MSM, and then all of us fell for the distraction.  

The unfortunate thing is that now PERRY (the smuck) will be the new (old) Governor of Texas and he should not be. No one should ever be Governor this long, IMO.

It's too bad we couldn't have focused on HIM (PERRY) more, and demonized him instead of being distracted by a newbie who learned her first lesson about what not to do in a campaign, and who did start out with good intentions. The forces that be derailed her, and I guess we'll never know the full story about what happened in her campaign. But IMO one thing we do know is that we railed on the wrong person and that Perry should have been the real target.

This was just a primary, folks! We really needed Medina in that primary, instead of Hutchison (another smuck), just to give Perry a run for his money and to also show Americans that a person can get into politics that isn't establishment, if we support them. The real vote for Governor would be the next election, not this Primary. (Also Perry and Hutchison act like enemies, but they are both Bilderbergers and elite minions, so IMO Hutchison is nothing but a spoiler to split the vote and basically give it to Perry).

I think we really messed up this time and demonized the wrong person of the 3 running! We ensured a win by Perry by doing what we did.

That is unfortunate!  

(I hope I'm wrong about the outcome of the Primary, but this is what I think at this moment).

[Freeski]

Oh, she definitely has a chance, Freeski.

Texas has an open primary.  Most of the polls they show sample ONLY Rep or Dem.  But Dems can cross over and vote Rep.  Hell, I crossed over and voted for Dukakis once just to help put the weakest candidate in the race.  See how that works?  A lot of states have "closed" primaries and the folks there can't relate.

So yeah, she has a chance.  I think she'll beat Hutchison.  Hope she will, at least.  Then she can ask Perry about 9/11 and all sorts of stuff.

Edit--not talking down to you on the primary stuff.  Hell, most of my neighbors don't even know that they can vote in the "other party's" primary.

Not at all. I appreciate your insight!

[Freeski]

I think this has gone on long enough! Everyone is doing nothing, but talking in circles and maintaining their own positions on this issue and solving nothing. We need to learn a lesson from what happened. I think that lesson should have been that we should have been more FOCUSED ON DERAILING THE PERRY CAMPAIGN, than the Medina campaign. Who is the greater smuck here? PERRY, hands down, IMO!

It was never about WINNING, IMO! It was about sending the establishment a message and trying to empower more Americans to get involved in their government. This was another Ron Paul type campaign that was to serve as a means to wake up people and get them to care about what happens in their government and to start taking action! This is the one success that came out of this fiasco, is that people all over the country felt empowered to stand up and run for office.

However, the funny thing is we got sidelined into holding a brand new rookie politician more accountable than the smuck in office, RICK PERRY, who has been lying to and deceiving Texans for over 9 years. HOW DID WE HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE WHEN WE SHIFTED TO MEDINA AND GAVE HER ALL THE FLACK AND ALL OF OUR ATTENTION, as Perry then just flew beneath the radar to a new win? It appears to me that this is exactly what he helped contrive, with the help of the MSM, and then all of us fell for the distraction.  

The unfortunate thing is that now PERRY (the smuck) will be the new (old) Governor of Texas and he should not be. No one should ever be Governor this long, IMO.

It's too bad we couldn't have focused on HIM (PERRY) more, and demonized him instead of being distracted by a newbie who learned her first lesson about what not to do in a campaign, and who did start out with good intentions. The forces that be derailed her, and I guess we'll never know the full story about what happened in her campaign. But IMO one thing we do know is that we railed on the wrong person and that Perry should have been the real target.

This was just a primary, folks! We really needed Medina in that primary instead of Hutchison (another smuck) just to give Perry a run for his money and to also show Americans that a person can get into politics that isn't establishment if we support them. The real vote for Governor would be the next election, not this Primary.

I think we really messed up this time and demonized the wrong person of the 3 running! We ensured a win by Perry by doing what we did.

That is unfortunate!  

(I hope I'm wrong, but this is what I think at this moment).

Joe, wait for Tuesday!

[jofortruth]

Joe, wait for Tuesday!

I hope I'm wrong!   

[Dig]

I think this has gone on long enough! Everyone is doing nothing, but talking in circles and maintaining their own positions on this issue and solving nothing. We need to learn a lesson from what happened. I think that lesson should have been that we should have been more FOCUSED ON DERAILING THE PERRY CAMPAIGN, than the Medina campaign. Who is the greater smuck here? PERRY, hands down, IMO!

It was never about WINNING, IMO! It was about sending the establishment a message and trying to empower more Americans to get involved in their government. This was another Ron Paul type campaign that was to serve as a means to wake up people and get them to care about what happens in their government and to start taking action! This is the one success that came out of this fiasco, is that people all over the country felt empowered to stand up and run for office.

However, the funny thing is we got sidelined into holding a brand new rookie politician more accountable than the smuck in office, RICK PERRY, who has been lying to and deceiving Texans for over 9 years. HOW DID WE HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE WHEN WE SHIFTED TO MEDINA AND GAVE HER ALL THE FLACK AND ALL OF OUR ATTENTION, as Perry then just flew beneath the radar to a new win? It appears to me that this is exactly what he helped contrive, with the help of the MSM, and then all of us fell for the distraction.  

The unfortunate thing is that now PERRY (the smuck) will be the new (old) Governor of Texas and he should not be. No one should ever be Governor this long, IMO.

It's too bad we couldn't have focused on HIM (PERRY) more, and demonized him instead of being distracted by a newbie who learned her first lesson about what not to do in a campaign, and who did start out with good intentions. The forces that be derailed her, and I guess we'll never know the full story about what happened in her campaign. But IMO one thing we do know is that we railed on the wrong person and that Perry should have been the real target.

This was just a primary, folks! We really needed Medina in that primary instead of Hutchison (another smuck) just to give Perry a run for his money and to also show Americans that a person can get into politics that isn't establishment if we support them. The real vote for Governor would be the next election, not this Primary.

I think we really messed up this time and demonized the wrong person of the 3 running! We ensured a win by Perry by doing what we did.

That is unfortunate!  

(I hope I'm wrong about the outcome of the Primary, but this is what I think at this moment).

Yeah Perry is a bona fide piece of shit, ain't no doubt about that. BTW-we have always demonized Perry, not sure if there is one pro-Perry post on this forum. As far as Medina, this board shows all of the support we gave her before she threw us under the bus.
And it was/is always available to anyone who keeps their word.

Just do a search on Perry, he is a genocidal maniac who raped over a million girls with forced death shot vaccinations while getting paid by Merck to hide the genocide.

I mean how is this even a question?

[Jackson Holly]

centexan:

Thanks for your insightful postings ... it's easier for us outsiders to blast Medina for her
bad-mouthing truthers. I might be more forgiving myself if I had the prospects of living
with Rick Perry for another four years!   

But, then again ... we have Bill Richardson over here in NewMex!   

THE NWO's PILLSBURY DOUGHBOY!

[Freeski]

I hope I'm wrong!   

Me too! I need hope, not fail!

[Dig]

Oh, she definitely has a chance, Freeski.

Texas has an open primary.  Most of the polls they show sample ONLY Rep or Dem.  But Dems can cross over and vote Rep.  Hell, I crossed over and voted for Dukakis once just to help put the weakest candidate in the race.  See how that works?  A lot of states have "closed" primaries and the folks there can't relate.

So yeah, she has a chance.  I think she'll beat Hutchison.  Hope she will, at least.  Then she can ask Perry about 9/11 and all sorts of stuff.

Edit--not talking down to you on the primary stuff.  Hell, most of my neighbors don't even know that they can vote in the "other party's" primary.

wow, ok.

[Freeski]

Yeah Perry is a bona fide piece of shit, ain't no doubt about that. BTW-we have always demonized Perry, not sure if there is one pro-Perry post on this forum. As far as Medina, this board shows all of the support we gave her before she threw us under the bus.
And it was/is always available to anyone who keeps their word.

Just do a search on Perry, he is a genocidal maniac who raped over a million girls with forced death shot vaccinations while getting paid by Merck to hide the genocide.

I mean how is this even a question?

Uh, dude... how could anybody be for Perry? Are you out of your freaking mind!!!?

(it's satire for f**ks sakes!)

 

(don't ban me for the love of God!)

Go Medina go!

[TheCaliKid]

Ya'll must be hoping for a sh*tload of crossover Democrats & NeoCons....

[Freeski]

Ya'll must be hoping for a sh*tload of crossover Democrats & NeoCons....

No!

Just people who have been awakened. We never go back to sleep.

[TheCaliKid]

No!

Just people who have been awakened. We never go back to sleep.

I said that in the context of centexan talking about how Texas has open primaries.

[Freeski]

I said that in the context of centexan talking about how Texas has open primaries.

I know.

[TheCaliKid]

So, is the polling actuate or not?

I don't think you are going to get enough "crossovers" to make a damn bit of difference. That's just my political gut talking out loud, of course I could be wrong.


Either way, I see her coming in last place.

[Freeski]

So, is the polling actuate or not?

I don't think you are going to get enough "crossovers" to make a damn bit of difference. That's just my political gut talking out loud, of course I could be wrong.


Either way, I see her coming in last place.

Yep, none of that shit matters! It's more diversion.

[chris jones]

This is not bloodletting, this is sheer disapointment.

Medina had the support of the finest citizens in the state of Texas and nationaly backing her stance.

I was thrilled to read of her stand against Fed domination, I beleived in Medina.

WHY?? Something is missing here, she is not nieve and was well aware of her support of truthers, in her state and nationaly, she was recognized for this.
YA WHY. Toss this out the window if in fact her intentions for the Governor were on the level, and I have no reason to doubt that.
WHY is her camp remaining silent on this issue, no reply whatosever that I have heard of. This does not make sence. Whats missing here, she not only betrayed her stand, her honour, but her true and faithfull supporters, WHY.

I listened three times to her Beck interview, I'm no mind reader but I detected a fear in her voice, a overwhleming tension, as soon as Beck made a comment she agreed immediatly. WHY.
Beck keyed in and expanded boastfully upon her remarks, exploring them to the max.
Yet she continued her yes sir three bags full sir attitude.WHY?

Why did she screw up her chances, betray her most loyal followers knowing she would loose backing considerably.

2+2=4, simple math, it adds up, this betrayal does not. We can all come to our conclusions based on her slander, untill the moment of truth surfaces will we truly know the reason.

The betrayal is obvious, the reasoning behind it is not. Untill this lady comes clean one way or another I for one remain with questions.

Historicaly there have been men of courage who at one point agreed with the powers, that is untill their conscience leaped up and brought them back to reality. I will wait, briefly, and hope that this woman decides to declare who and what she truly is, if she should find the courage to do so. Add to this her staff have become closed mouth, WHY. It would seem to me that at least one of her staff just one truther -would make a statement, this is national, the impact felt has been nuclear. yet all remain stump.WHY??

[Freeski]

This is not bloodletting, this is sheer disapointment.

Medina had the support of the finest citizens in the state of Texas and nationaly backing her stance.

I was thrilled to read of her stand against Fed domination, I beleived in Medina.

WHY?? Something is missing here, she is not nieve and was well aware of her support of truthers, in her state and nationaly, she was recognized for this.
YA WHY. Toss this out the window if in fact her intentions for the Governor were on the level, and I have no reason to doubt that.
WHY is her camp remaining silent on this issue, no reply whatosever that I have heard of. This does not make sence. Whats missing here, she not only betrayed her stand, her honour, but her true and faithfull supporters, WHY.

I listened three times to her Beck interview, I'm no mind reader but I detected a fear in her voice, a overwhleming tension, as soon as Beck made a comment she agreed immediatly. WHY.
Beck keyed in and expanded boastfully upon her remarks, exploring them to the max.
Yet she continued her yes sir three bags full sir attitude.WHY?

Why did she screw up her chances, betray her most loyal followers knowing she would loose backing considerably.

2+2=4, simple math, it adds up, this betrayal does not. We can all come to our conclusions based on her slander, untill the moment of truth surfaces will we truly know the reason.

The betrayal is obvious, the reasoning behind it is not. Untill this lady comes clean one way or another I for one remain with questions.

Historicaly there have been men of courage who at one point agreed with the powers, that is untill their conscience leaped up and brought them back to reality. I will wait, briefly, and hope that this woman decides to declare who and what she truly is, if she should find the courage to do so. Add to this her staff have become closed mouth, WHY. It would seem to me that at least one of her staff just one truther -would make a statement, this is national, the impact felt has been nuclear. yet all remain stump.WHY??

Chris! That's the heart of the questiion. Why?

[jofortruth]

Why did she screw up her chances, betray her most loyal followers knowing she would loose backing considerably.

I smell the elite thug forces at work. It could be related to who came into her campaign after the shakeup 2 weeks ago (as well as the gang of 3 MSM idiots who ganged up on her and twisted everything she stood for). Something happened! New people came in, and afterwards Medina changed. Another thing I noticed was that she wasn't using Twitter as much at that point.

What happened, we don't know! But we all know how the elite operate when someone gets close to power, who isn't one of them!

This however should make people mad. More should run for office all over America just to spite these cowards who intimidate good candidates. I'm tired of their tricks, games in every election and intimidation tactics. This crap has to end and the only way to make it end is if we gang up on them in EVERY STATE AND GET BEHIND GOOD PEOPLE AND GET THE CROOKS OUT OF OFFICE! VOTE OUT INCUMBENTS, AND LOOK CLOSELY AT NEW PEOPLE RUNNING AND SUPPORT THEM NO MATTER WHAT IF YOU THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD PLATFORM AND POTENTIAL! THE DAYS OF VOTING DEM & REP WITH NO THOUGHT BEHIND IT OR DOING NO RESEARCH ON THE PERSON MUST BE OVER!

If our two parties (which operate as one) can't be loyal to us, then we can no longer be loyal to them. THROW THEM OUT! START OVER WITH NEW PEOPLE AND THEN HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE FROM DAY ONE IN OFFICE!

[Freeski]

Ya but she sure sounds genuine...

[lord edward coke]

This is not bloodletting, this is sheer disapointment.

Medina had the support of the finest citizens in the state of Texas and nationaly backing her stance.

I was thrilled to read of her stand against Fed domination, I beleived in Medina.

WHY?? Something is missing here, she is not nieve and was well aware of her support of truthers, in her state and nationaly, she was recognized for this.
YA WHY. Toss this out the window if in fact her intentions for the Governor were on the level, and I have no reason to doubt that.
WHY is her camp remaining silent on this issue, no reply whatosever that I have heard of. This does not make sence. Whats missing here, she not only betrayed her stand, her honour, but her true and faithfull supporters, WHY.

I listened three times to her Beck interview, I'm no mind reader but I detected a fear in her voice, a overwhleming tension, as soon as Beck made a comment she agreed immediatly. WHY.
Beck keyed in and expanded boastfully upon her remarks, exploring them to the max.
Yet she continued her yes sir three bags full sir attitude.WHY?

Why did she screw up her chances, betray her most loyal followers knowing she would loose backing considerably.

2+2=4, simple math, it adds up, this betrayal does not. We can all come to our conclusions based on her slander, until the moment of truth surfaces will we truly know the reason.

The betrayal is obvious, the reasoning behind it is not. Untill this lady comes clean one way or another I for one remain with questions.

Historicaly there have been men of courage who at one point agreed with the powers, that is untill their conscience leaped up and brought them back to reality. I will wait, briefly, and hope that this woman decides to declare who and what she truly is, if she should find the courage to do so. Add to this her staff have become closed mouth, WHY. It would seem to me that at least one of her staff just one truther -would make a statement, this is national, the impact felt has been nuclear. yet all remain stump.WHY??

You nailed it. The intimidation factor cannot be understated.    =  JFK.    

Also when you can intimidate a BILLIONAIRE to step down from a successful campaign, you realise the tissue-paper
thin-ice you dance upon.

This is why THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE..................Of your fleshly prison.

The upside for Medina could be a chance to make it to the primaries..........The downside???

     Does she have children,family, Skeleton in the closet ?
      and even if she didn't- the nwo dirty bag of tricks is chock-full and would make James bond blush.

Just look what happens to the support when the nwo pitches a ''softball'' (Glen beck) and we do not have the intestinal fortitude to see through the brinksmanship.

But instead go off crying like school-children.......................pouting,scratching our heads,pointing fingers, whining
bout being betrayed etc.  

YOU HAVE TO REALISE WHAT KIND OF ''DEMONS'' YOU ARE DEALING WITH.

THEY WILL STOP AT nothing.   http://www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier.html#TORTURE%20FOR%20NO-WRITE

You will never have a candidate if you agree with five issues and disagree on one.

Even Ron Paul will not state     "911 inside job".              And he knows it was!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSrVu8k3kg

[Volitzar]

Get someone from the Texas Constitution Party to run for Governor.  Traitorous Republicans !!!

[Dig]

This is not bloodletting, this is sheer disapointment.

Medina had the support of the finest citizens in the state of Texas and nationaly backing her stance.

I was thrilled to read of her stand against Fed domination, I beleived in Medina.

WHY?? Something is missing here, she is not nieve and was well aware of her support of truthers, in her state and nationaly, she was recognized for this.
YA WHY. Toss this out the window if in fact her intentions for the Governor were on the level, and I have no reason to doubt that.
WHY is her camp remaining silent on this issue, no reply whatosever that I have heard of. This does not make sence. Whats missing here, she not only betrayed her stand, her honour, but her true and faithfull supporters, WHY.

I listened three times to her Beck interview, I'm no mind reader but I detected a fear in her voice, a overwhleming tension, as soon as Beck made a comment she agreed immediatly. WHY.
Beck keyed in and expanded boastfully upon her remarks, exploring them to the max.
Yet she continued her yes sir three bags full sir attitude.WHY?

Why did she screw up her chances, betray her most loyal followers knowing she would loose backing considerably.

2+2=4, simple math, it adds up, this betrayal does not. We can all come to our conclusions based on her slander, untill the moment of truth surfaces will we truly know the reason.

The betrayal is obvious, the reasoning behind it is not. Untill this lady comes clean one way or another I for one remain with questions.

Historicaly there have been men of courage who at one point agreed with the powers, that is untill their conscience leaped up and brought them back to reality. I will wait, briefly, and hope that this woman decides to declare who and what she truly is, if she should find the courage to do so. Add to this her staff have become closed mouth, WHY. It would seem to me that at least one of her staff just one truther -would make a statement, this is national, the impact felt has been nuclear. yet all remain stump.WHY??

damn fine analysis. since that moment of complete reversal, the entire encampment there seems to be run by Emanuel type Chicago thugs who say: "Well if you do not vote for Medina then you are the one responsible for the destruction of America", or "Ron Paul is the same, give up your support for him", or "9/11 truth has destroyed this country, can't you assholes realize there are bigger problems", or "AJ supported the 9/12 movement before he was against it" (an absolute lie as documented in this very forum), or "I would not be surprised if people were attacked even lethally over this because it was not her fault, she had to do it."

I am telling you something ain't right over there, her entire support staff seems to now be filled with some fake revolutionaries that came out of the CoIntelPro playbook on intimidating anyone who does not bow down fully to the will of the leader. Just very disturbing to say the least. It reminds me of some of the scenes in JFK with the CIA/Mafia/Cubans all engaged in psyops intimidation tactics.

I still think Perry is a Bilderberg psychopath who is dead set on doing the globalists' bidding, but can anyone figure out what the hell happened over there in medinaland.

"The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty" -John Adams

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." -John Adams

[Joseon]

The question is, why did Debra Medina allow handlers/infiltrators to sabotage her campaign? well, probably through intimidation.

As for Medina, being fearful, well tough cookies for her. I will not give her an excuse for her behavior. She should've known the consequences of running for the Governor of Texas. She should have understood what she was getting into.

If we actually had people with some balls, not afraid to die, the system would collapse. But people are cowards, worrying about their own little life, their their own perceived prisms. Well, I say, bullocks to that. Death is not the end, and if the elites have their way with you, your family and other strong members will avenge your death.

Fortunately, as people get older, they get less fearful of death. I am only in my 20's and I don't care about dying TBH with you. Why does Medina worry about dying, what is more important to her life than protecting her, her family's, relative's, and comrades' of Texas welfare in the increasing Orwellian world we preside in?

The reason, why I am can not run for Governor of my state is due to financial and my lack of credentials. But still, if I ever allow my self put my position to apply for the governorship of my state, so be it! As long as your children and family are okay, what are you really risking?

[TheCaliKid]

You know what I've been thinking? What if she had come out and disagreed with the host on that last show? I wonder if it would have galvanized her campaign.

[Volitzar]

So is she a traitor or not, I'm viewing all this from Florida.

[Joseon]

Medina shouldn't have exposed herself to the mainstream attack dogs/prostitutes in my opinion. And when Medina was on Glenn Beck's Shill program, she should have not answered the question regarding 9/11 since that topic was not a pertinent enough debating point with regarding the governorship of Texas. 99.9% of the governorship's profile/responsibility bares little semblance to 9/11-Homeland Security partnerships with Federalized State partnerships (I.E. 10 Homeland Security Zones)

But many people probably think that 9/11 is connected hot button issue, the tie-in with Texas of course. Security measure across the nation, and Texas,  were supposedly justified by nineteen hijackers from Afghanistan, so I guess 9/11 is still relevant. Homeland Security, FBI offices, IRS, Los Alamos research agency, CIA offices in Texas. Well, that's why 9/11 is important for the establishment.

[Joseon]

So is she a traitor or not, I'm viewing all this from Florida.

IN your black and white definition, yes. 

Traitor ~ Trader 

traitor
early 13c., from O.Fr. traitor (11c.), from L. traditorem (nom. traditor) "betrayer," lit. "one who delivers," from stem of tradere "deliver, surrender" (see tradition)


Although Medina would Probably be the lesser of the 3 three evils out there.

[lord edward coke]

Hmmmmmm???

Only 750?   

DAWNISMYGODESS is right again.  Floggin a dead horse. total non-issue.

She is the Ron Paul of the texas gov race. Almost the exact same positions.

[Volitzar]

http://www.constitutionparty.org/view_states.php?state=TX

There's always David Kirkland of the Constitution Party.