***Debra Medina*** Proof that the truth movement is a bona fide voting block

[Neco]

The 19th of February doesn't really cut it.........

And since then she has simply agreed that she isn't a 9/11 truther.

You are all reading way to much into this.

[gEEk squad]

And since then she has simply agreed that she isn't a 9/11 truther.

You are all reading way to much into this.

She agreed with his entire statement 3 seperate times.

[Viper]

There is obviously two camps to this, but *using my best Bob Chapman acccent* THAT'S OK.

[TheCaliKid]

And since then she has simply agreed that she isn't a 9/11 truther.

You are all reading way to much into this.

You're right, we are.

The simply truth is, she isn't any different than any other politician. 

[centexan]

You folks would be pretty amusing if you weren't talking about such a serious topic.  Debra Medina is the bulwark against the globalists.  You all knew this until Karl Rove NUKED Jonestown, and now most of you are stumbling around in the debris asking whahoppened?  What happened is you've been sucker punched.  A clip of radio here, a clip of radio there, and Perry's Bush connections have you feeling around trying to differentiate your asses from your heads.

I'll post the letter I just got from Campaign for Liberty today (folks who support the Paul family).  They're still for Medina.

[Jackson Holly]

Well, now the NWO has the only 2010 campaign "issue" they need ...
911 TRUTH!   

I have been saying this in other threads, but nobody is getting it ... our
candidates can no longer sit on the fence and pretend that false flags
and deception are not the main MO ... method of operation ... of the
bankster elite/NWO. Frankly, I don't know how Ron Paul has gotten away
with it for so long ... but look for the opposition candidates to get
in his face shortly: "Well which is it Dr. Paul ... did the govt kill our
citizens or not? Do you refuse to denounce those disgusting, lying traitors
calling themselves TRUTHERS?"

If all GLENN BECK and the other ILLUMINATI shills have to do
is mouth the UNSPEAKABLE oath: "You're a 911 TRUTHER"
and our candidates turn tail and run ... we have had it!

The public will say: "Dang, I wuz beginning to think
there might be sumthin' to them thruther nuts ... but
look ... even their own candidates call 'em stupid
cultists. Well, I ain't gonna have anything to do with 'em!"

I want to elect some anti-NWO and truther candidates in November ... but
we will not elect ONE by obfuscating like Medina is doing now. They must
embrace the TRUTH!

If they suck-up to BECK, et al, they will lose the middle-of-the road
AND they will lose the awakened voters ... because I for one (and I
really believe most of us feel this way) will never cast a ballot for
a weak-kneed, lilly-livered, faux-Patriot again.

If they think they can make some speeches about States Rights, grab
a gun and smile for their photo op, rhapsodize about those dirty old
bankers ... and then deny the OBVIOUS MATRIX all around them ...
crawl into bed with the filthy slimeballs and get my vote, they are crazy.
I have seen too many slick-talking, lying politicians do exactly that for too long.

For Christ-sakes - THEY KNOW THE TRUTH! Stop pretending ...
stop supporting, holding up this ridiculous nightmarish lie.


WE MUST HAVE STAND UP CANDIDATES ...

EITHER THEY ARE TRUTHERS, OR THEY ARE DAMN LIERS.

[Weasel]

Nicely said Jackson!

The line in the sand has been drawn and I'm always going to speak my mind to whoever, 911 was a false flag by the evil people who want to control everything just for kicks.

[Optimus]

She agreed with his entire statement 3 seperate times.

Not only did she agree with Davis' entire statements 3 separate times, but she sounded like she was upbeat to the point of enjoying the racking of the 9/11 truth movement through the mud. You can hear it in the tone and fluctuation of her voice. She doesn't sound like a woman who was intimidated or threatened in any way as some have claimed. She is nothing more than a sellout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrHAd85LEUM

[Dig]

You folks would be pretty amusing if you weren't talking about such a serious topic.  Debra Medina is the bulwark against the globalists.  You all knew this until Karl Rove NUKED Jonestown, and now most of you are stumbling around in the debris asking whahoppened?  What happened is you've been sucker punched.  A clip of radio here, a clip of radio there, and Perry's Bush connections have you feeling around trying to differentiate your asses from your heads.

I'll post the letter I just got from Campaign for Liberty today (folks who support the Paul family).  They're still for Medina.

Dude, you are the only Karl Rove here, why do you keep spamming Karl Rove as if this is a fricking neocon website. Not only is it against the rules of this forum, it is just stupid. She lied emphatically 3x and then backed up those lies with more comprehensive lies. You really just do not get it. We are not Obamanoids. We refuse to go to sleep with some fresh candidate who says one thing and does another.

Just not happening here, please peddle the Karl Rove spam somewhere else.

Thanks

[Dig]

Keeping with Jackson's enthusiasm, this is a watershed moment where the MSM is now completely exposed. Allowing the people to confront their government is now the only issue people care about and the elites know it.

No longer are we caring about which color rubies our self declared queens and kings should wear.

No longer do we care whether we spend more money on foreign policy v. spending more money on  domestic policy.

No longer do we care which candidate lies less.

No longer do we care which candidate is given more lavish parades overseas.

No longer do we care which candidate has a bigger chin.

No longer do we care which candidate has more corporate backing.

No longer do we care what the f**k Time/Newsweek/WaPo/WSJ or any other Bilderberg yellow rag says.

We are on the march and the empire is on the run.

Our eyes are wide open, the truth is screeming from sea to shiny sea.

Non-violent, non-cooperation is putting the stranglhold on all the puppetmasters and the puppets are waking up to their unnecessary slavery.

This land is your land, this land is my land and not the property of some self-fabricated bloodline of incesant psychopathic fear mongerers!

[centexan]

I know you're in a tough spot, Sane.  Who'd have thought things would turn like this?  Bilderberg Perry and Bilderberg Hutchison vs Wharton county chairwoman Debra Medina.  And now everyone's opinion has to turn on a dime because of a hissy fit.  Good luck trying to contain this. 

[Jackson Holly]

I know you're in a tough spot, Sane.  Who'd have thought things would turn like this?  Bilderberg Perry and Bilderberg Hutchison vs Wharton county chairwoman Debra Medina.  And now everyone's opinion has to turn on a dime because of a hissy fit.  Good luck trying to contain this. 

Not speaking for Sane, but this is not making any of us happy, that's for sure.
I'm not in TX (next door in NM), but she represented the hopes of Patriots
and Truth~Seekers everywhere. I do NOT want to see that SNAKE, Perry rise
to the Republican Prez Nomination, which is really what this is about.

However, how can we support her when she will not support us? She in effect
has joined forces with the WRONG SIDE here, IMO.

She has affirmed the Status Quo.

[centexan]

She hasn't joined "the other side."  She's doing things we can't understand right now in order to get elected.  When she gets into the runoff we'll get some clarification.  They're terrified she'll ask Perry about 9/11, Obama's birth certificate and such.  That's why they're doing all they can to stop her.

New Mexico?  Did you know that J.T. Harris of Oklahoma has suspended his congressional race and asked his supporters to come into north Texas to canvass on behalf of Medina?  Lots of people up there in Fort Worth, Dallas, Arlington, Texarkana.  So, Mr. Harris knows how important this is.  Medina has stated her Libertarian platform and has not diverted from it.  She will start the state sovereignty ball rolling in earnest.  Harris and lots of people in Oklahoma know this and are doing what they can to help her.

Medina's for bringing the Tx national guard home from Iraq and using them to secure the Mexican border.  You could use an attitude like that in New Mexico.

El Paso is near New Mexico.  Do you know if any groups are helping to canvass for Medina in El Paso, like the folks from Oklahoma?

[Georgiacopguy]

You never did answer my question centexan; what has she done ot prove to you in your mind that she will follow through on her campaign promises?

[Jackson Holly]

centexan:

Medina's for bringing the Tx national guard home from Iraq and using them to secure the Mexican border.

What? If she believes those dirty ragheads blew up the Trade Towers and are constantly
trying to blow up airplanes and God knows what else ... maybe she believes the TX GUARD
should keep up the War On Terra ... the Mexicans ain't blowing up the NY skyline.

Sorry, I'm being facetious.   

Truth is, if you gotta vote in the Rep Primary I would say she is still the only choice ...
at least she is fresh and talks a good game. But jeez, what a letdown!

Maybe some Independent with balls will step up to the plate.

[Freeski]

You're right, we are.

The simply truth is, she isn't any different than any other politician. 

Actually, I think there is ONE difference between Medina and virtually every other politician: her platform is about the fundamental role of the state, whereas everybody else just panders goodies. No politician, other than Ron Paul and a few others, have that kind of consistency or substance in their mission. That's what makes Medina rare.

[TheCaliKid]

Actually, I think there is ONE difference between Medina and virtually every other politician: her platform is about the fundamental role of the state, whereas everybody else just panders goodies. No politician, other than Ron Paul and a few others, have that kind of consistency or substance in their mission. That's what makes Medina rare.

Naturally I meant in the context of her flip-flopping.........

[Freeski]

Naturally I meant in the context of her flip-flopping.........

Yeah but "they" flip-flop all the time on everything. So her alleged flip-flop is much more significant than their hundreds of flip-flops put together.

[Neco]

Man you guys gotta quit moving shit around.  I can't ever find a thread I was in.

[Viper]

The 9/11 Truth Movement is officially a bona fide voting block

Welcome to the new board, i believe it has overflowing potential.

Peace.

[TheCaliKid]

Yeah but "they" flip-flop all the time on everything. So her alleged flip-flop is much more significant than their hundreds of flip-flops put together.

I agree.


One major thing which puzzles me is, what hell did she think the reaction would be!?!?!?

It's as if they HAARPed her brain or something.

[Freeski]

One major thing which puzzles me is, what hell did she think the reaction would be!?!?!?

I don't think she has any understanding of the seriousness of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Like you said earlier, "she's done", no question about that, at least for the governorship run. We'll just have to see what she does next, if anything. Her next move is the most important of her life.

[Neco]

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely Republican Primary voters finds Perry leading Senate Kay Bailey Hutchison 48% to 27%, with Tea Party activist Debra Medina earning 16% of the vote. Nine percent (9%) of Texas GOP voters remain undecided.

Dammit

[Freeski]

Dammit

It worked perfectly.

They simply killed Medina's message. We, on the other hand, traded a few Constitutional gains for a little extra 9/11 exposure, and sunk a promising candidate while we were at it. One of very few candidates who had the drive to put stuff on the table that no other politician even cares about. Nice move.

There's still time to vote.

[Jackson Holly]

Her message began to sound like HOT AIR to any astute listener, though,
when she buckled on 911 ... the underpinnings, the support system, the inner
column of strength for her tower of "truth" got "pulled" you might say,
and she crumbled into a pile of dust.

Don't you know TPTB are high-fiveing all over the place about now?   

[Dig]

I know you're in a tough spot, Sane.  Who'd have thought things would turn like this?  Bilderberg Perry and Bilderberg Hutchison vs Wharton county chairwoman Debra Medina.  And now everyone's opinion has to turn on a dime because of a hissy fit.  Good luck trying to contain this. 

contain what, let it run wild. the only thing that has been proven undeniably is that the truth movement and the movement to question the US government is now a bona fide voting block. Now we know that we are the ones the politicians must confront. we no longer can be ignored. and the MSM did this on their own, they could have left this off the table and used other dirty tricks, but theyy let the genie out of the bottle and it ain't going back in.

in the past few weeks the MSM has forced millions more people to see what is going on. I woke up to 9/11 truth when I saw Ann Coulter saying that the 9/11 widows should shut up. I thought how odd that was and looked it up. Now over 50 million people saw/heard a candidate for governor of one of the biggest states in america getting grilled for absolutely no reason about this thing called 9/11 truth.  Anyone checking out the google search engine progress on the impact?

[IridiumKEPfactor]

Her message began to sound like HOT AIR to any astute listener, though,
when she buckled on 911 ... the underpinnings, the support system, the inner
column of strength for her tower of "truth" got "pulled" you might say,
and she crumbled into a pile of dust.

Don't you know TPTB are high-fiveing all over the place about now?   

Very true.

9/11 truth and truth seeking patriots were the unseen core columbs of her campaign. When she dissed 9/11 she dissed all people who who had an issue with False Flag terror and know about Criminal behavior in the governemnt.

The real power was not the outside facade (9/12 Glenn Beck, fairweather patriots and followers), it is the interal sub and super structures.



Has Medina released a statement yet!!!

Her silence is deafening.

[lord edward coke]

Did Alex release his Glen Beck exposure video yet???  I know he went on and on about it........and i feel
that would of been strong medicine for the parasite GB stealing AJ's material and herding the sheep into
a cage .

THIS GB HAS GOT TO BE EXPOSED FOR THE 'PILE O CR@P' he IS.

He stated he was fed-up with GB BULL$#!+!!!

Medina would have weathered the storm better if GB did not have the support of the sleeping masses.

911 is not the make it break it issue. Baby steps first. You cannot eat an elephant in 1 day.

Texas can lead by example by  drawing  the line on the 10th amendment issue, The other states will have a model of resistence that even the most dumbed down will have to acknowldge.

That could be the spark that starts the fire.

[Jackson Holly]

LEC:

911 is not the make it break it issue.

Problem is, the NWO is making it the issue. They have found out
that all they have to do is press that issue ... any candidate that
smacks of anti-NWO, who comes off the start line with that mission, will
get the old, "You're just a despicable TRUTHER" treatment. If the candidate
does not say, "Hell, yes I'm a truther!" and attacks them with both barrels blazing,
but waffles around with, "I think Americans can think 911 was an inside job if they
want to, even though it is stupid cult-thought" ... they will lose.


IT IS A MIXED, NON-SENSICAL MESSAGE

[centexan]

contain what, let it run wild. the only thing that has been proven undeniably is that the truth movement and the movement to question the US government is now a bona fide voting block....

Sigh.  No time to address this now.  Debra Medina's campaign is about taxes, guns, the border, state sovereignty.  The woman even said she supported the right of truthers and birthers to ask questions, but that wasn't good enough.  Perry's Bilderberg machinery stooped and duped, the 9/11 movement bit, and now the nation's best hope of grassroots change is being nitpicked away.  That's no victory.  Or, not for the 9/11 movement.  The new face of that movement is a frothing rant.  This has set the 9/11 movement back immeasurably.  It's killed Jones' credibility in Texas, too.  So who are you saying "won" in this deal?

[TheCaliKid]

Sigh.  No time to address this now.  Debra Medina's campaign is about taxes, guns, the border, state sovereignty.  The woman even said she supported the right of truthers and birthers to ask questions, but that wasn't good enough.  Perry's Bilderberg machinery stooped and duped, the 9/11 movement bit, and now the nation's best hope of grassroots change is being nitpicked away.  That's no victory.  Or, not for the 9/11 movement.  The new face of that movement is a frothing rant.  This has set the 9/11 movement back immeasurably.  It's killed Jones' credibility in Texas, too.  So who are you saying "won" in this deal?

She didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning in the first place, and everyone knows it.

Let's just pretend for a moment, that she didn't go on any of those shows. Everything has been left unchanged since mid-Feb..........got that?

Ok, now we roll around to March 2nd.......voting day. Does she beat out KBH? No, she does not.


This brings up one of two scenarios:


1. The people aren't quite ready for a true Liberty candidate yet (getting close tho)

2. Electronic voting machine fraud (like they wouldn't do that. Duh!)



When it comes to the average American citizen willing or wanting REAL change, it is directly proportional to their level of personal discomfort. That's just how it is. Remember, 95% + of Americans didn't gave a flying f**k about anything (Federal Reserve, oppressive taxes, take down of society, etc) until things came home to roost in their personal pocketbooks. It was all hunky dory because they were making money hand over fist.

Therefore, most are still not ready. We are gaining more members each day, but will it be in time? Me thinks not.


2010 is pretty much a write-off already, primaries are occurring soon. 2012? Can we even make it that far intact?

 

[Freeski]

She didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning in the first place, and everyone knows it.

Let's just pretend for a moment, that she didn't go on any of those shows. Everything has been left unchanged since mid-Feb..........got that?

Ok, now we roll around to March 2nd.......voting day. Does she beat out KBH? No, she does not.


This brings up one of two scenarios:


1. The people aren't quite ready for a true Liberty candidate yet (getting close tho)

2. Electronic voting machine fraud (like they wouldn't do that. Duh!)



When it comes to the average American citizen willing or wanting REAL change, it is directly proportional to their level of personal discomfort. That's just how it is. Remember, 95% + of Americans didn't gave a flying f**k about anything (Federal Reserve, oppressive taxes, take down of society, etc) until things came home to roost in their personal pocketbooks. It was all hunky dory because they were making money hand over fist.

Therefore, most are still not ready. We are gaining more members each day, but will it be in time? Me thinks not.


2010 is pretty much a write-off already, primaries are occurring soon. 2012? Can we even make it that far intact?

 

Good post but it sure doesn't jive with this one:

"Fifty-six percent of Americans say the government poses an immediate threat to individual rights and freedoms."

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161448.msg959156#msg959156

[Freeski]

Also, I believe she was riding an exponential wave of support for some very fundamental ideas. Who knows what may have happened had we not made it about 9/11, or about flip-flopping? Whatever momentum she had ceased when Beck first fucked her mind. Point being it's easier to discuss 9/11 with someone who understands the the fundamentals of property rights, the right to defend yourself with whatever you need to get the job done, and freedom.

It's all still a net gain, though, IMO.

Without Medina, none of that Constitutional stuff she put on the table would have made it to TV or YouTube. We win, as long as people are talking about it.

[TheCaliKid]

Good post but it sure doesn't jive with this one:

"Fifty-six percent of Americans say the government poses an immediate threat to individual rights and freedoms."

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=161448.msg959156#msg959156

There is a massive dis-connect, and you know it. Here is a perfect example:

Dear Senator McCain,

I am confused and dismayed. I voted for you this last election because you stood for liberty and the constitution. Now I am reading articles saying that you are proposing a bill that will limit or cancel my right to buy vitamins and supplements that have been immensely useful in avoiding and recovering from physical ailments. Could you please assure me that these allegations are false and that you indeed are concerned about my freedom to eat what I please to maintain my health, longevity and well being?

Thank you,

Patrick Yakovich

That knee-jerk reactionary post is an insult to both your intellect and mine. Please grow up a little bit, thanks.

[Dig]

Sigh.  No time to address this now.  Debra Medina's campaign is about taxes, guns, the border, state sovereignty.  The woman even said she supported the right of truthers and birthers to ask questions, but that wasn't good enough.  Perry's Bilderberg machinery stooped and duped, the 9/11 movement bit, and now the nation's best hope of grassroots change is being nitpicked away.  That's no victory.  Or, not for the 9/11 movement.  The new face of that movement is a frothing rant.  This has set the 9/11 movement back immeasurably.  It's killed Jones' credibility in Texas, too.  So who are you saying "won" in this deal?

The 9/11 movement is alive, it is alive, and the MSM just blinked. They just showed how terrified they are. Live and in color. You fail to see this, no worries. AJ has confronted this issue head on with integrity and commitment to his principals.

Damn glad that he did. It forced me to listen and evaluate all of the evidence, and when I did (or anybody does) it is plain as day.

Candidates need to stop fearing bilderberg and start listening to the people. As long as they alienate themselves via these odd public rituals of claiming people have no right to question their government, they will lose.

You are saying she had to do that or she would lose. Well then why are you here saying that she needs our support. Obviously our support means nothing, or we must accept her agreeing with glee 3x that people questioning the gov are despicable cultists.

sorry dude, she obviously does not need us, she said it plain as day, she got her big time connections.

[Dig]

btw - i guess there is still no statement from medina...what a surprise.

[Freeski]

There is a massive dis-connect, and you know it. Here is a perfect example:




That knee-jerk reactionary post is an insult to both your intellect and mine. Please grow up a little bit, thanks.

Clearly we need a better way to measure the percentage of people who are "awake" vs. those who are "oblivious". Are you (everyone) just another propaganda-receptor, or do you study shit and think for yourself? That type of thing.

[Freeski]

btw - i guess there is still no statement from medina...what a surprise.

Nothing, and it's been really pissing me off since whenever this shit started. I'm starting to think Jackson Holly is right that to "not go there" is counter to what we stand for. Maybe it is time to end the decorum and pussyfooting. Damn I hate this shit! If the average slob would just open his or her freeking eyes we could end this tyranny by morning.

[Joseon]

Do you always enjoy taking what someone wrote and running ten miles with it?

Do enjoy criticizing people for apparently no good reason?

[Dig]

Nothing, and it's been really pissing me off since whenever this shit started. I'm starting to think Jackson Holly is right that to "not go there" is counter to what we stand for. Maybe it is time to end the decorum and pussyfooting. Damn I hate this shit! If the average slob would just open his or her freeking eyes we could end this tyranny by morning.

as others have said (especially Viper), the MSM clowns (esp. Beck) has again opening the eyes of millions of more patriots concerning 9/11. They only take the genie out of the bottle when they are desperate. They thought we would be intimidated and cave. But oh were they wrong. They just realized that we know how much power constitutional americans have who love freedom, equality, and justice without being compromised by nazi radio hosts like that FBI Hal Turner type that kept pushing her to kiss the ring.