AVATAR : "Triumph of the Will" for the NWO Green Nazis

[Mike Philbin]

There is no greater truth than that.

We are Each a part of Each Other's Awakening!

[GoingEtheric]

......Well I went into the movie yesterday thinking I was just going to see a sci-fi romp. Little did I know it would change my life forever. I sat in the theater after it was over just stunned, and then I began to cry. I was ripped apart with feelings I had never had before, hate for myself and my species, hate for my capitalistic and worthless society, and a feeling of such despair that I would never be able to know the Na’vi or their superior culture and way of life. I was there just thinking and crying for about 15 minutes before an usher asked me to leave. I told him I never wanted to leave and he was confused for a second. Then he said I had to go and if I wanted to see this “crappy movie” again I’d have to pay for another ticket. Well to cut to the chase it got a bit heated at that point and we ended up in a shoving match. The police officer who took me out of there didn’t seem to care either.....

lol...um...wow
I guess I shouldn't laugh

[Beefcake]

This movie can make you feel bad enough about being human to totally give up. Who cares about vaccines and flouride or naked airport scanners when your life is parasitic and meaningless, as a destructive chaos in the universe. Its almost enough to make one decide to rebel against your neighbors!

wtf are you talking about?    Its a good movie and has an anti invasion message and is a parallel to the Iraq war and that is what 90% of the people I have spoken to got from it.  Not one person thought of it as a global warming movie and don't even say it subliminally makes you want a carbon tax because that is BS.  Some of you guys are just too isolated I think.  You live on these forums just patting each other on the backs and preaching to the converted. 

You have literally lost touch with how the middle of the road guy/girl thinks and whereas some are are extremely brainwashed there are many that aren't.  Problem is you guys overestimate NWO brainwashing.  No one believes anything these days much less what the media tells them.  Sure you see idiots interviewed on TV but those are handpicked responses from hundreds that are interviewed and they only show the people that agree with airport scanners, most people don't.   We have a false reality in the media that portrays a society that likes everything when in reality most people don't.  You need to have more faith in your fellow man that they can see through BS, because if you get it in your head that you are unique in your thoughts and alone or worse think you just have other members of this site that agree with you have already lost the fight.

[Jackson Holly]

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I think I might be suffering from the pandora effect

So I've been married to my wife for a while now. Its been 6 years since our marriage and I had been dating her for 4 years prior to that. So its been quite a while. My life hasnt been that bad. I mean I have a good job working at Safeway bagging groceries, and my wife is a psychologist so she's the real breadwinner in the family.

We may not be rich but we usually don't want for much. I never thought myself the type to have an addictive personality but ever since we saw Avatar in theaters I have been having problems.

The past 7 nights in a row my wife has asked me to have sex with her, and I just havent been in the mood. Scratch that. I'm incredibly horny most of the time, but I dont feel attracted to her anymore. The sight of her naked literally does nothing for me, and I'm frightened by that. Instead I imagine Neytiri. Her majestic grace and boundless beauty as well as the alien mystery about her. I want to fly off to pandora and live with her, to be with her always. I would worship her as she deserves. I'd do anything to just to touch her, to smell her.

She's the perfect woman, and i feel like this life here has lost its spark. Where is the magic in humanity. Just a few days ago, my son asked me some question about what happened in Avatar. I dont even remember what it was, but after I told him, I started crying. Right in front of him. All I can think about is how depressing it is that I will never reach pandora. I almost vomited while I cried. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever done. Im in my 30's for god's sake. I have to remain strong for my son. Right?

I want to tell my wife but she's a psychologist. She'll think I'm sick. I know it. I probably am sick. But what can I do. Its a little early to tink about divorce, but the thought of her disgusts me. The thought of me disgusts me. How could I compare to the beauty and grace of a Na'vi. I want to leave, to just leave and sort things out, but I dont want to leave my wife and son alone. I dont know what to do with myself, with my life. I dont want to see another psychologist and get treated like a specimen. I just want to be a Na'vi. I've never wanted anything more in my life.

At this point I would rip my son to shreds for an hour on pandora. I would too. And that thought frightens me. Can anyone somehow offer me assistance. Christ what ami going to do with myself?

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[ekimdrachir]

lol...um...wow
I guess I shouldn't laugh

I feel sorry for people who think they are "woken up" after seeing this.

[Piltdown Man]

wtf are you talking about?    Its a good movie and has an anti invasion message and is a parallel to the Iraq war and that is what 90% of the people I have spoken to got from it.  Not one person thought of it as a global warming movie and don't even say it subliminally makes you want a carbon tax because that is BS.  Some of you guys are just too isolated I think.  You live on these forums just patting each other on the backs and preaching to the converted. 

You have literally lost touch with how the middle of the road guy/girl thinks and whereas some are are extremely brainwashed there are many that aren't.  Problem is you guys overestimate NWO brainwashing.  No one believes anything these days much less what the media tells them.  Sure you see idiots interviewed on TV but those are handpicked responses from hundreds that are interviewed and they only show the people that agree with airport scanners, most people don't.   We have a false reality in the media that portrays a society that likes everything when in reality most people don't.  You need to have more faith in your fellow man that they can see through BS, because if you get it in your head that you are unique in your thoughts and alone or worse think you just have other members of this site that agree with you have already lost the fight.

[ekimdrachir]

I can see that there are multiple ways you can take this story, and I acknowledge the fact that my interpretations are not everyones.
I have seen alot of different reactions, and depending on where you come from, and what preconditioning you have,
it can rub off on you the wrong way.

Granted what you just said, you really need to take a look at the Avatar forums and see what some of these people are saying.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=154356.0;topicseen

[Mike Philbin]

wow, that's totally beautiful.

[GoingEtheric]

<sigh>
In the world of doublespeak and propaganda. "Loving humanity" is meaningful because it has no meaning. There is no solution inherent in it. It is thoughtlessness that is given definition only by the brainwashed who say that the word "loving" is better than "corporate". But that is all.  Again, go read some history. Every attempt at mass brainwashing uses euphemism, image and manipulation in order to get the masses to chant the goodness of love and the evil of worldly possessions. Its the same old trick they used to get the slaves to give up all their personal goods and property. What the masses chant is NOT love and is NOT good. It is vacuous and empty, just like the statement, Peace is war.

**ding, ding

[Piltdown Man]

wow, that's totally beautiful.

reminds me of this thread somehow! 

[Piltdown Man]

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I think I might be suffering from the pandora effect

So I've been married to my wife for a while now. Its been 6 years since our marriage and I had been dating her for 4 years prior to that. So its been quite a while. My life hasnt been that bad. I mean I have a good job working at Safeway bagging groceries, and my wife is a psychologist so she's the real breadwinner in the family.

We may not be rich but we usually don't want for much. I never thought myself the type to have an addictive personality but ever since we saw Avatar in theaters I have been having problems.

The past 7 nights in a row my wife has asked me to have sex with her, and I just havent been in the mood. Scratch that. I'm incredibly horny most of the time, but I dont feel attracted to her anymore. The sight of her naked literally does nothing for me, and I'm frightened by that. Instead I imagine Neytiri. Her majestic grace and boundless beauty as well as the alien mystery about her. I want to fly off to pandora and live with her, to be with her always. I would worship her as she deserves. I'd do anything to just to touch her, to smell her.

She's the perfect woman, and i feel like this life here has lost its spark. Where is the magic in humanity. Just a few days ago, my son asked me some question about what happened in Avatar. I dont even remember what it was, but after I told him, I started crying. Right in front of him. All I can think about is how depressing it is that I will never reach pandora. I almost vomited while I cried. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever done. Im in my 30's for god's sake. I have to remain strong for my son. Right?

I want to tell my wife but she's a psychologist. She'll think I'm sick. I know it. I probably am sick. But what can I do. Its a little early to tink about divorce, but the thought of her disgusts me. The thought of me disgusts me. How could I compare to the beauty and grace of a Na'vi. I want to leave, to just leave and sort things out, but I dont want to leave my wife and son alone. I dont know what to do with myself, with my life. I dont want to see another psychologist and get treated like a specimen. I just want to be a Na'vi. I've never wanted anything more in my life.

At this point I would rip my son to shreds for an hour on pandora. I would too. And that thought frightens me. Can anyone somehow offer me assistance. Christ what ami going to do with myself?

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okay, this guy is wankin on us
he's gotta be
this is just over the top
it doesn't ring true

either he's the saddest jelly brained punk in the world or a brilliant satirist who knows what's goin down and is havin some fun with it

[ekimdrachir]

I can see that there are multiple ways you can take this story, and I acknowledge the fact that my interpretations are not everyones.
I have seen alot of different reactions, and depending on where you come from, and what preconditioning you have,
it can rub off on you the wrong way.

Granted what you just said, you really need to take a look at the Avatar forums and see what some of these people are saying.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=154356.0;topicseen

[Monkeypox]

okay, this guy is wankin on us
he's gotta be
this is just over the top
it doesn't ring true

either he's the saddest jelly brained punk in the world or a brilliant satirist who knows what's goin down and is havin some fun with it

It can't be real, not with a line like: "I mean I have a good job working at Safeway bagging groceries."

That CAN'T be real.

[Jackson Holly]

I went ahead and set up an account at the AVATAR FORUM so I could surf the whole site ...

... these are some poor lost souls ... 

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aVaTarPhan#1 


Hello, this is my first post.

Well I went into the movie yesterday thinking I was just going to see a sci-fi romp. Little did I know it would change my life forever. I sat in the theater after it was over just stunned, and then I began to cry. I was ripped apart with feelings I had never had before, hate for myself and my species, hate for my capitalistic and worthless society, and a feeling of such despair that I would never be able to know the Na’vi or their superior culture and way of life. I was there just thinking and crying for about 15 minutes before an usher asked me to leave. I told him I never wanted to leave and he was confused for a second. Then he said I had to go and if I wanted to see this “crappy movie” again I’d have to pay for another ticket. Well to cut to the chase it got a bit heated at that point and we ended up in a shoving match. The police officer who took me out of there didn’t seem to care either. When I told him he was a tool of an oppressive society that is destroying the world he laughed at me. Now I’ve got a charge against me for public disturbance but I don’t care. Hopefully that jerk usher got fired.

The next day I saw it at a different theater in 3d. All of a sudden the world was as real as my own. At the end I stood up and started telling the people that they were the bad guys and were killing the Na’vi everyday with their western society. I said look at Afghanistan! I got cussed out and had a soda thrown on me but I wore those like a badge of honor, I felt like a Na’vi standing against human oppression and sickness. I just wished I had a weapon at that point and could have fought like Jake did. Jake was so strong. I began to wish that I could be like a new Hitler, only instead of exterminating one race I’d do the whole human race then shoot myself at the end. My mom always said I get too wrapped up in this stuff but she is an idiot who is just as much part of the problem as every other American. I told her when I got home and she cried but I don’t care anymore, I’m 35 and I can do what I want in my room and don’t have to take any “medicine” if I don’t want to. Did the Na’vi take pills to “get better” Did the Indians? Nope. I just wish I could stop thinking of this; it’s more than a movie. My Mom used to think I was too into WoW but that was just a game. I quit playing and told my guild wife there to just forget me. This feels real, that is just stupid now. I don't even really want to go into work.

Sorry for a long first post. I’m in an emotional state right now and just wanted to vent with other believers. I wish I could wake up and be in a real world, not this hell hole we have created on Earth. I don't know if I should cry or be mad anymore.



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It can't be real, not with a line like: "I mean I have a good job working at Safeway bagging groceries."

That CAN'T be real.

Well, there are several pages of responses to the guy's post ... some saying, "Get a grip dude ... see a shrink" ... others saying that they feel the same way, they can't shake it ... others saying thay can't have sex with their wives/GFs unless they have blue body paint ... YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!

[Mr Grinch]

I went ahead and set up an account at the AVATAR FORUM so I could surf the whole site ...

... these are some poor lost souls ... 

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aVaTarPhan#1 


Hello, this is my first post.

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Sorry for a long first post. I’m in an emotional state right now and just wanted to vent with other believers. I wish I could wake up and be in a real world, not this hell hole we have created on Earth. I don't know if I should cry or be mad anymore.



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Well, there are several pages of responses to the guy's post ... some saying, "Get a grip dude ... see a shrink" ... others saying that they feel the same way, they can't shake it ... others saying thay can't have sex with their wives/GFs unless they have blue body paint ... YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!

And this similar vein of thought (? emotive trigger) this poor soul.... on the bottom of first page.

Originally Posted by okoi  View Post
After I watched Avatar at the first time, I trully felt depressed as I "wake" up in this world again.
So after few days, I went to cinema and watched it again for the second time to relieve the depression and hopeless feeling.
Now I listen to the soundtrack and share my views in this forum. It really helps.
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First time I too woke up and got that strange depressed feeling. That forced me to go to the cinema the next day. Again I got that feeling, even got it after the 3rd time. Now i think I'm an addict of this depression, and i like it, it kinda makes me a better person, or something like that. That's why I'm here, writing.

I dont think theres any question this movie is affecting people to a level that goes beyond the typical movie.... Mind control/manipulation experts should study its content closely including VLF in the soundtrack and any EM pulse systems that may be deployed at these (especially 3D) theatres.

Theres a really good post in the mind control section.... this section of the forum is Packed with goodies.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=335.0
the post..
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=68064.0

[GoingEtheric]

okay, this guy is wankin on us
he's gotta be
this is just over the top
it doesn't ring true

either he's the saddest jelly brained punk in the world or a brilliant satirist who knows what's goin down and is havin some fun with it

I thought some were over the top too. I never underestimate the emotionally needy, but some seem a bit much.

[Jackson Holly]

MORE AVATAR CRAZINESS
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Here's another FORUM ~ naviblue.com

This thread called: Is this happening to anyone else?
http://naviblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=142&sid=6116988fb1399a61ba293c9118946d88



Postby mike » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:58 pm

Ever since i went to see Avatar i have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I cant stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers i got from it. I even contemplate suicide thinking that if i do it i will be re birthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in Avatar.. I cant find joy in this world since Ive seen it, and the only thing that makes me happy is thinking about it or when im seeing it next, which is Saturday at the imax.. I doubt anyone will understand the feelings I'm having..but if you are..tell me..

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by Neytiri Makto » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:50 pm

I feel the same way too, Mike. it's a pretty epic and mind blowing movie. I think one of the ways to help overcome this overwhelming experience is to go see the movie multiple times. your brain will start to become accustomed to the awesomeness a little bit and will start to understand and accept that it is indeed not reality, but is still epically awesome.

at least I hope this will help me, I'm going to see it for a third time tomorrow. the first time I felt really depressed after, the second time a little less depressed but I was still left with a strong feeling of longing (not exactly sure what for, but I knew i wanted it badly), we'll see what happens tomorrow.


but please, keep posting on here! we need you with us to help us get through this too!

maybe we should file some sort of class action lawsuit against James Cameron for causing depression and suicidal thoughts?

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by Namavan » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:37 am

You may not believe it, but my feelings are almost the same. This is because we have never before seen something like this, something so touching that makes our brain think this way. I hope that with time it will pass, but for now just go see that movie... And when you're outside of the cinema, go to a quiet place, take a deep breath and understand that everything you saw in Pandora is just imagination. Go do something crazy, something you've never done before; take a whole new look at your own life and maybe change something in it, break your daily routine's rules and do something crazy, whatever that makes you feel happy and... safe. Because the emotional moments you, me and maybe someone else experienced in the movie makes you feel unsafe I believe (at least me), you feel that something's not right, yes? And that's the feeling I'm experiencing too.

If you want, send me a personal message in these forums. We could talk about it in Skype or Yahoo, because I see that I'm not the only one with such experiences. And I'd love to talk to someone about it.

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[Saturn]

Sickening.

[PullMyFinger]

The phrase"get a life" comes to mind.I love,absolutely LOVE Gone With the Wind but it hardly bothers me that I can't escape with Rhett Butler FFS.
A good movie is a temporary distraction,not a lifestyle!

[Wozzy]

All those people who can't make differences between a movie and the reality : that's very sick    How can so much people fall into the trick ? That's beyond all beliefs.

[GoingEtheric]

the posts actually sound like the machinations of a publicist. Troll-marketing.

[GhostofTsenzei]

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!

I totally could.

Seriously, it's pretty clear the guy's a (fairly decent actually) troll.

[Bacchanea]

He is probably a troll. But put him aside, the rest of them are certifiable. I think it reflects well on the state of mind of many people today - depressed, isolated, in desparate need of some kind of narcotic or drug to get them out of their stupor: video games, movies, drugs, prozac, etc. We are a nation of addicts - this movie is manipulating that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWqD_VOympU

[Mr Grinch]

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=68064.0

Original Title
The Battle for Your Mind
Persuasion and Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today


Introduction
I'm Dick Sutphen and this tape is a studio-recorded, expanded version of a talk I delivered at the World Congress of Professional Hypnotists Convention in Las Vegas, Nevada. Although the tape carries a copyright to protect it from unlawful duplication for sale by other companies, in this case, I invite individuals to make copies and give them to friends or anyone in a position to communicate this information.

Although I've been interviewed about the subject on many local and regional radio and TV talk shows, large-scale mass communication appears to be blocked, since it could result in suspicion or investigation of the very media presenting it or the sponsors that support the media. Some government agencies do not want this information generally known. Nor do the Born-Again Christian movement, cults, and many human-potential trainings.

Everything I will relate only exposes the surface of the problem. I don't know how the misuse of these techniques can be stopped. I don't think it is possible to legislate against that which often cannot be detected; and if those who legislate are using these techniques, there is little hope of affecting laws to govern usage. I do know that the first step to initiate change is to generate interest. In this case, that will probably only result from an underground effort.

In talking about this subject, I am talking about my own business. I know it, and I know how effective it can be. I produce hypnosis and subliminal tapes and, in some of my seminars, I use conversion tactics to assist participants to become independent and self-sufficient. But, anytime I use these techniques, I point out that I am using them, and those attending have a choice to participate or not. They also know what the desired result of participation will be.

So, to begin, I want to state the most basic of all facts about brainwashing: In the entire history of man, no one has ever been brainwashed and realized, or believed, that he had been brainwashed. Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been "shown the light" ...or have been transformed in miraculous ways.

snip

Three distinct and progressive states of transmarginal inhibition were identified by Pavlov. The first is the equivalent phase, in which the brain gives the same response to both strong and weak stimuli. The second is the paradoxical phase, in which the brain responds more actively to weak stimuli than to strong. And the third is the ultra-paradoxical phase, in which conditioned responses and behavior patterns turn from positive to negative or from negative to positive.

With the progression through each phase, the degree of conversion becomes more effective and complete. The way to achieve conversion are many and varied, but the usual first step in religious or political brainwashing is to work on the emotions of an individual or group until they reach an abnormal level of anger, fear, exitement, or nervous tension.

The progressive result of this mental condition is to impair judgement and increase suggestibility. The more this condition can be maintained or intensified, the more it compounds. Once catharsis, or the first brain phase, is reached, the complete mental takeover becomes easier. Existing mental programming can be replaced with new patterns of thinking and behavior.

Other often-used physiological weapons to modify normal brain functions are fasting, radical or high sugar diets, physical discomforts, regulation of breathing, mantra chanting in meditation, the disclosure of awesome mysteries, special lighting and sound effects, programmed response to incense, or intoxicating drugs.

The same results can be obtained in contemporary psychiatric treatment by electric shock treatments and even by purposely lowering a person's blood sugar level with insulin injections.

Before I talk about exactly how some of the techniques are applied, I want to point out that hypnosis and conversion tactics are two distinctly different things--and that conversion techniques are far more powerful. However, the two are often mixed...with powerful results.

How Revivalist Preachers Work
If you'd like to see a revivalist preacher at work, there are probably several in your city. Go to the church or tent early and sit in the rear, about three-quarters of the way back. Most likely repetitive music will be played while the people come in for the service. A repetitive beat, ideally ranging from 45 to 72 beats per minute (a rhythm close to the beat of the human heart), is very hypnotic and can generate an eyes-open altered state of consciousness in a very high percentage of people. And, once you are in an alpha state, you are at least 25 times as suggestible as you would be in full beta consciousness. The music is probably the same for every service, or incorporates the same beat, and many of the people will go into an altered state almost immediately upon entering the sanctuary. Subconsciously, they recall their state of mind from previous services and respond according to the post-hypnotic programming.

Watch the people waiting for the service to begin. Many will exhibit external signs of trance--body relaxation and slightly dilated eyes. Often, they begin swaying back and forth with their hands in the air while sitting in their chairs. Next, the assistant pastor will probably come out. He usually speaks with a pretty good "voice roll."

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True Believers and Mass Movements
Before ending this section on conversion, I want to talk about the people who are most susceptible to it and about Mass Movements. I am convinced that at least a third of the population is what Eric Hoffer calls "true believers." They are joiners and followers...people who want to give away their power. They look for answers, meaning, and enlightenment outside themselves.

Hoffer, who wrote "The True Believer", a classic on mass movements, says, "true believers are not intent on bolstering and advancing a cherished self, but are those craving to be rid of unwanted self. They are followers, not because of a desire for self-advancement, but because it can satisfy their passion for self-renunciation!" Hoffer also says that true believers "are eternally incomplete and eternally insecure"!

I know this from my own experience. In my years of communicating concepts and conducting trainings, I have run into them again and again. All I can do is attempt to show them that the only thing to seek is the True Self within. Their personal answers are to be found there and there alone. I communicate that the basics of spirituality are self-responsibility and self-actualization. But most of the true believers just tell me that I'm not spiritual and go looking for someone who will give them the dogma and structure they desire.

Never underestimate the potential danger of these people. They can easily be molded into fanatics who will gladly work and die for their holy cause. It is a substitute for their lost faith in themselves and offers them as a substitute for individual hope. The Moral Majority is made up of true believers. All cults are composed of true believers. You'll find them in politics, churches, businesses, and social cause groups. They are the fanatics in these organizations.

Mass Movements will usually have a charismatic leader. The followers want to convert others to their way of living or impose a new way of life--if necessary, by legislating laws forcing others to their view, as evidenced by the activities of the Moral Majority. This means enforcement by guns or punishment, for that is the bottomline in law enforcement.

A common hatred, enemy, or devil is essential to the success of a mass movement. The Born-Again Christians have Satan himself, but that isn't enough--they've added the occult, the New Age thinkers and, lately, all those who oppose their integration of church and politics, as evidenced in their political reelection campaigns against those who oppose their views. In revolutions, the devil is usually the ruling power or aristocracy. Some human-potential movements are far too clever to ask their graduates to join anything, thus labeling themselves as a cult--but, if you look closely, you'll find that their devil is anyone and everyone who hasn't taken their training.

There are mass movements without devils but they seldom attain major status. The True Believers are mentally unbalanced or insecure people, or those without hope or friends. People don't look for allies when they love, but they do when they hate or become obsessed with a cause. And those who desire a new life and a new order feel the old ways must be eliminated before the new order can be built.

[Bacchanea]

Other often-used physiological weapons to modify normal brain functions are fasting, radical or high sugar diets, physical discomforts, regulation of breathing, mantra chanting in meditation, the disclosure of awesome mysteries, special lighting and sound effects, programmed response to incense, or intoxicating drugs

This is what the ancient Greek mysteries are all about. This is what our so-called culture is about today. All the elite, both past and present, attended these and the masses knew about them. Look at our elite today, who participate in the same of kind of brainwashing themselves. In every case in history, the elite want to overpower the masses with THEIR religion. In this particular case, that religion is expressed in this phoney environmentalism. The sewage that comes from Hollywood is also a series of image and meaning from their sick, demented, amoral religion. Most Americans have no clue what is happening, as we have not been educated in history and we have no clue how the power structure operates and has operated since the dawn of mankind. If you are interestd in learning more about that kind of ritualistic brainwashing in antiquity, you can check out my old professors' works listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_A._P._Ruck. He is coming out with a new book. Here is a discription from Amazon:

This illustrated book traces the history of an unlikely force in the shaping of Western civilization: the use of psychedelic mushrooms, namely by a secret society called the cult of Mithras. Nero was the first emperor to be initiated by the group's "magical dinners," and most of his successors embraced the ritual as a source of spiritual transcendence. The cult was officially banned after the Conversion, but aspects of their rituals were assimilated or co-opted by Christianity, and the brotherhoods persist today as secret societies such as the Freemasons. This is a fascinating exploration of a powerful force kept behind the scenes for thousands of years.

[agentbluescreen]

agentbluescreen:

James Cameron's production company, the masonic bankers
that bankroll him and the entire Hollywood corporate apparatus
is the source of your problems ... your puppet masters ...
why can you not see this?

I went into the AVATAR movie loving kind, considerate and generous freedom, all of my fellow (human and otherwise) beings, my beautiful life on this most beautiful and astoundingly wonderful living world in this amazing living universe, our and all of these things Living Godly Parentage, the miracle of the two sexes, the sacrament of bravery in charity, Our Savior their Son, fidelity and responsibility, the wonders of science and technology, the arts of storytelling, and all-constructive, attractive Love Itself (Ra).

I also brought with me my hatred of corporate religionism, corporate military industrial fascism, destruction, killing, usurers who lazily, selfishly and destructively 'loan" their good fortunes rather than investing them, criminals who lie, cheat and steal, technologies that rob ruin and corrupt, politicians and governments who are corrupted, conspiracies of manipulative parasites like the Masonic Amun Preisthood Orders, the CIA, FBI and Pentagon and all other corrupt secret-elite-socialist Mafias and all those who squander their wealth, success and influence solely to gain more for themselves, and all destructive, repulsive hatred and hatreds themselves.

I left the movie with all those feelings and judgements reinforced, and with a free pair of nifty polarized 3D glasses (and just as happy friends at my side).

Maybe you experienced the 4D version

[chris jones]

I have posted on this before. I admit to having mixed feelings.

Sane brought me up to date on kids seeing this and the possible effect it could have on them.

I can not understand an adult leaving his home to live in the forest or jungle, strapping himself to a tree when the lumberjacks show up simply by watching this movie.

If the desired motive of this film was to convert an adult, or to clould his vison, or mind controll the individual, I would have to wonder how this was possible.

A high ranking 33 degree elite produced this film, that opens my eye to any possibility. Admitedly.

Contray to the popular oppinion, I did see another side to this other than GREEN. Big corps use the Marines our military to usurp profits at any cost. Did anyone else see this or am I hallucinating?

I'm not a GREENY,though I do beleive the world could use a cleaning up, that we should respect nature, and that if 20% of the money used for our wars was used to accomplish this we would be in good shape.
As far as big industry screwing up our enviroment, polluting etc. , there are laws and they could be a bit stricter. They do not need our taxes to do this. As we are aware big Corps get away with their crimes, we do not.

I'm an old geezer, I had a very difficult time coming to grips with these postings. I have a one track mind, FREEDOM, JUSTICE, the end of the elites and their suking this nation dry, and training the citizens to remain in fear, heads down, pay your taxes, go to our wars, do as we tell you and shut the FK up.
In short I am against slavery and or domination till my last breath.

Kids may be effected by this, though I continue befuddled in many ways, adults, I can't see it.

I wonder what JFK or RFK would do right now.
Very likely- The wars would end, redemption would begin, strict enforcment of super coprs would be a given, the Fed would be eradicated, the war criminals would be in chains, the power suking corpss and profiteers would be singled out and incarcerated, our bill of rights and constitution would be adhered to and we would be on the way back to representative democracy, FREEDOM.

Did I just rant?? So sorry, I get off track at times.

[Piltdown Man]

MORE AVATAR CRAZINESS
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Here's another FORUM ~ naviblue.com

This thread called: Is this happening to anyone else?
http://naviblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=142&sid=6116988fb1399a61ba293c9118946d88



Postby mike » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:58 pm

Ever since i went to see Avatar i have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I cant stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers i got from it. I even contemplate suicide thinking that if i do it i will be re birthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in Avatar.. I cant find joy in this world since Ive seen it, and the only thing that makes me happy is thinking about it or when im seeing it next, which is Saturday at the imax.. I doubt anyone will understand the feelings I'm having..but if you are..tell me..

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by Neytiri Makto » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:50 pm

I feel the same way too, Mike. it's a pretty epic and mind blowing movie. I think one of the ways to help overcome this overwhelming experience is to go see the movie multiple times. your brain will start to become accustomed to the awesomeness a little bit and will start to understand and accept that it is indeed not reality, but is still epically awesome.

at least I hope this will help me, I'm going to see it for a third time tomorrow. the first time I felt really depressed after, the second time a little less depressed but I was still left with a strong feeling of longing (not exactly sure what for, but I knew i wanted it badly), we'll see what happens tomorrow.


but please, keep posting on here! we need you with us to help us get through this too!

maybe we should file some sort of class action lawsuit against James Cameron for causing depression and suicidal thoughts?

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by Namavan » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:37 am

You may not believe it, but my feelings are almost the same. This is because we have never before seen something like this, something so touching that makes our brain think this way. I hope that with time it will pass, but for now just go see that movie... And when you're outside of the cinema, go to a quiet place, take a deep breath and understand that everything you saw in Pandora is just imagination. Go do something crazy, something you've never done before; take a whole new look at your own life and maybe change something in it, break your daily routine's rules and do something crazy, whatever that makes you feel happy and... safe. Because the emotional moments you, me and maybe someone else experienced in the movie makes you feel unsafe I believe (at least me), you feel that something's not right, yes? And that's the feeling I'm experiencing too.

If you want, send me a personal message in these forums. We could talk about it in Skype or Yahoo, because I see that I'm not the only one with such experiences. And I'd love to talk to someone about it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

IF ANY OF YOU NAYSAYERS over in the Avatar Triumph of the Will thread

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=152507.440;topicseen

STILL THINK THERE IS NO BRAINWASHING mind kontrol bullshit in this movie, you are dancin in the clouds, my friends.

[Freedom Reigns]

IF ANY OF YOU NAYSAYERS over in the Avatar Triumph of the Will thread

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=152507.440;topicseen

STILL THINK THERE IS NO BRAINWASHING mind kontrol bullshit in this movie, you are dancin in the clouds, my friends.

LMAO Mind "kontrol" for what?  To be against the invasion of indigenous people?  Did you actually watch the film?  Oh that's right, you're the one who is all for thread name changes.   

[chris jones]

IF ANY OF YOU NAYSAYERS over in the Avatar Triumph of the Will thread

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=152507.440;topicseen

STILL THINK THERE IS NO BRAINWASHING mind kontrol bullshit in this movie, you are dancin in the clouds, my friends.

Hi to Piltdown.

I repect your zeal, but with no offense intended, I beleive your attitude is self defeating.

I can see how kids may become entranced with this, but please explain to me what this fiction would do to an adult.
Ya know, what is the thread to your venem, you are relentless in this and I'm curious as to why. If you can get bottom line with your feelings, what you beleive this film is doing in actualtiy, what is the evil intent, I'm all ears.

[agentbluescreen]

In the movie AVATAR, the corporate fascist's dehumanized "fresh meat slave" (our hero) lacks even the right to walk, in spite of all of the corporate enslaver's "advanced" technological wealths and riches. He only becomes "humanized" again by their reluctantly necessitated "Plan B" employment of him in their "too-expensive" exploitative (the ultimate false-flag wet-dream) weapons system.

People who criticize this film and it's plot on this forum appear to be some sort of corporate crackheads.

Hopefully you shall not need to nor ever become a "disabled" war veteran in order to grasp the premise of this film's excellent plot.

When the willfully blinded lead the blind they all fall into a pit.

[White Rose Sophie]

lol...um...wow
I guess I shouldn't laugh

THAT is unbelievably scary.  People just looking for something to believe in....will believe in anything.  Sounded almost like 'worship', didn't it?

[Piltdown Man]

Hi to Piltdown.

I repect your zeal, but with no offense intended, I beleive your attitude is self defeating.

I can see how kids may become entranced with this, but please explain to me what this fiction would do to an adult.
Ya know, what is the thread to your venem, you are relentless in this and I'm curious as to why. If you can get bottom line with your feelings, what you beleive this film is doing in actualtiy, what is the evil intent, I'm all ears.

(jaw is dropping)
okay.  I see this is more powerful than I guessed. amazing.

The "bottom line" is the bottom line of why we are all fighting the NWO and it's stated agenda.   

your question:
what is the "evil" intent of Avatar?
My question:
What is the intent of the NWO?  (Isn't that what this forum is organized around?)

intent of NWO:
financial, physical and spiritual control and manipulation of the planet's population, genocide of 3/4 of human life, general enslavement through endless war, tyranny, fear etc. Also theft of individual rights, personhood, civil freedoms, free thinking: as this is anathema to control and threatens the elite's agenda.

Intent of Avater:
another link in the chain.  I'm just surprised I need to spell it out. 

A movie like this (PLEASE read posts from the movie fan blogs where they talk about their brains working in a different way, about needing to go see it again and again...there is SOMETHING GOING ON) directed by a proven elite mind control advocate/participant, has subliminal dangerous Al Gorific messages of dehumanization, of ourselves as ugly horrid human spawn who should just die to save the beautiful innocent fantasy world/race. 

Intense visuals inflame erotic appetites, mixed with heavy emotionalism, deep longing for another world and grief for the human violence against this fantasy race : it's all like a powerful drug every bit as engineered and with all the elements of a big buck MKUltra project. 

Question for you: why the hell WOULDN'T i hate seeing this take hold across the country (and here on the forum). 

PS if it's bad for kids isn't that like, the ball game? I mean, they are the future, yes?

they are infiltrating every level of society with propaganda.  Food, water, movies, wars, financial crap.  We are being systematically taken out.  This is part of it. 

It doesn't have to happen.  You don't have to put on the glasses and join in the mind kontrol to learn to hate yourself and your fellow man.

Fight it, don't be an idiot.
Wake up.

[Piltdown Man]

you know, I should just drop out of this conversation because I'm admittedly pretty extreme.
I think it's good to be exposed so  you know what you are up against, but I'm at a point in life where I think what's best to do is get real, across the board.

lose the eye candy (or worse) movies that cost the gdp of a small country to make.  to hell with them all.
lose them totally; don't go see them. This is extreme and i should shut up about it, i know.

Movies have moved completely away from what they were in the beginning: honest, augmented self expression.  Now they are competitive glitzed out group think money making sensory overload propaganda machines with global stakes. they are not real. 

the cycle has run it's course.  Today's blockbusters are irrelevant and glutted; like a huge piece of triple artificial chocolate cake with triple chocolate frosting drowned in pure concentrated artificial chocolate sauce.  what's the point? 

[Mr Grinch]

This movie seems to be other level. ("like the CIA")

We all can (and should) learn more about the science/art of (mass) mind/emotional manipulation whether NLP, psychotronic, hypnotic or.. other from this section before it gets used on us. Though it may be to powerful when faced to resist, the knowledge of it hopefully will give us some immunity.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=335.0

[Jackson Holly]

you know, I should just drop out of this conversation because I'm admittedly pretty extreme.
I think it's good to be exposed so  you know what you are up against, but I'm at a point in life where I think what's best to do is get real, across the board.

lose the eye candy (or worse) movies that cost the gdp of a small country to make.  to hell with them all.
lose them totally; don't go see them. This is extreme and i should shut up about it, i know.

Movies have moved completely away from what they were in the beginning: honest, augmented self expression.  Now they are competitive glitzed out group think money making sensory overload propaganda machines with global stakes. they are not real. 

the cycle has run it's course.  Today's blockbusters are irrelevant and glutted; like a huge piece of triple artificial chocolate cake with triple chocolate frosting drowned in pure concentrated artificial chocolate sauce.  what's the point? 

They are "entertaining" us to death ... and this post is as good a condemnation of Hollywood Overkill as I have read anywhere ... a continuing good EXCELLENT job Piltdown Man.

Why does anyone on THIS forum think for one minute that the MEDIA corporations (FOX, LIGHTSTORM and DUNE ENTERTAINMENT in this case, along with BIG BANKING) went to this much trouble and expense FOR OUR BENEFIT? To proselytize AGAINST big corporations?

Don't we all understand by now that BIG MEDIA is the propaganda arm of BIG WAR?

All HOLLYWOOD/MEDIA is WAR & NWO/Masonic propaganda.

They are in your head.

[Piltdown Man]

They are "entertaining" us to death ... and this post is as good a condemnation of Hollywood Overkill as I have read anywhere ... a continuing good EXCELLENT job Piltdown Man.

Why does anyone on THIS forum think for one minute that the MEDIA corporations (FOX, LIGHTSTORM and DUNE ENTERTAINMENT in this case, along with BIG BANKING) went to this much trouble and expense FOR OUR BENEFIT? To proselytize AGAINST big corporations?

Don't we all understand by now that BIG MEDIA is the propaganda arm of BIG WAR?

All HOLLYWOOD/MEDIA is WAR & NWO/Masonic propaganda.

They are in your head.

breathing sigh of relief now

[luckee1]

What? started a new thread with the same screaming smeary crap?  Why two threads?  Is it to ensure that anyone who visits this site, will be relieved of all responsibility in making their own decisions on seeing the movie?

Or is to ensure that any visitor to this site, sees that the group here is a bunch of scare-d-cats of a movie. 

Or is it to show those new visitors 'the party line'?

Or could it be just someone opening a new thread about it, to give some the opportunity to spam even more crap about a movie they hadn't seen, without rebuttal from those who enjoyed it.

Or could it be used as a simple matter of 'poster fatigue'.  To ensure that the haters of the movie, get to have the last word, despite their claims to the contrary that they have better things to do? 

[matrixportal]

Postby mike » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:58 pm

Ever since i went to see Avatar i have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I cant stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers i got from it. I even contemplate suicide thinking that if i do it i will be re birthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in Avatar.. I cant find joy in this world since Ive seen it, and the only thing that makes me happy is thinking about it or when im seeing it next, which is Saturday at the imax.. I doubt anyone will understand the feelings I'm having..but if you are..tell me..

That is the central mode of control: Make us feel pathetic and small, so we will willingly give up our liberty, our sovereignty, our destiny... we have got to realize that we are being conditioned on a mass scale.
Alex Jones

http://www.youtube.com/user/matrixportal
That quote set to music

MP

[Viper]

Or is it to show those new visitors 'the party line'?

There does exist a party line here sure i've seen it, it's called the Alex Jones Party, like it's his forum an' all.