AVATAR : "Triumph of the Will" for the NWO Green Nazis

[GUS]

I think the point of embedded programming is that you DON'T see it.  So many people seeing it twice.
Must be powerful. 

GUS: I ain't fanciful.  I just know what the Illuminati agenda is.  Don't be fooled.  Pinch yourself.

Tell you what. You watch the movie, then post where you see the stuff you imagine to be there. I didn't fall off the turnip truck just yesterday. If anything I have been a witness to the more innocent days of Andy Griffith, Leave it to Beaver, up to the very manipulative TV and movies of today. I see it on a daily basis. I have had to forgo most TV, and magazines because it irritates me so. Don't think yourself a wizened prophet on a hill enlightening the masses. So far from what I've read on this thread, I don't feel the need to fall at your feet.

Watch the movie. Then I might find what you have to say a lot more credible.   

[luckee1]

Tell you what. You watch the movie, then post where you see the stuff you imagine to be there. I didn't fall off the turnip truck just yesterday. If anything I have been a witness to the more innocent days of Andy Griffith, Leave it to Beaver, up to the very manipulative TV and movies of today. I see it on a daily basis. I have had to forgo most TV, and magazines because it irritates me so. Don't think yourself a wizened prophet on a hill enlightening the masses. So far from what I've read on this thread, I don't feel the need to fall at your feet.

Watch the movie. Then I might find what you have to say a lot more credible.   

Amen Brother!

Toruk !

Just like this beast, you gotta earn it!

[GUS]

Amen Brother!

Toruk !

Just like this beast, you gotta earn it!

Toruk Makto

[trailhound]

agentbluescreen wrote

The "One Law" of Charity is the sacrament Our Savior taught us - it is the basis of independent loving freedom and the whole idea of and behind the concept of "Constitutions".

I'd rather be taxed to pay for one united World Army that has nobody else to fight, and nothing else to fight for than a peaceful, constructive and prosperous loving future for all mankind.

[John Galt]

Toruk Makto

Toruk Makto?



"there is no need for Toruk Makto anymore"

~

[luckee1]

Flirt.   

[White Rose Sophie]

I think the point of embedded programming is that you DON'T see it.  So many people seeing it twice.
Must be powerful. 

GUS: I ain't fanciful.  I just know what the Illuminati agenda is.  Don't be fooled.  Pinch yourself.

The elites don't really need to worry about how to fund their various genocides - the public gives up their money with a smile on their face!   

Maybe some on here will actually research thought reform techniques/subliminal messaging, etc so your warnings are not completely in vain.

And yes, the thought that some are seeing it more than once reinforces your premise, in my opinion.

 

[Devotional Soul]

Disney is full of subliminal messages.  Cameron seems to be the Disney for grown ups.  Truthers can shake off the propaganda, symbolism, and mind control, but the subliminal messages are on an unconscious level. 

[GUS]

The elites don't really need to worry about how to fund their various genocides - the public gives up their money with a smile on their face!   

Maybe some on here will actually research thought reform techniques/subliminal messaging, etc so your warnings are not completely in vain.

And yes, the thought that some are seeing it more than once reinforces your premise, in my opinion.

 

You haven't seen it either, have you? Which reinforces my opinion.

[GUS]

Disney is full of subliminal messages.  Cameron seems to be the Disney for grown ups.  Truthers can shake off the propaganda, symbolism, and mind control, but the subliminal messages are on an unconscious level. 

Projection is considered one of the most profound and subtle of human psychological processes, and extremely difficult to work with, because by its nature it is hidden. It is the fundamental mechanism by which we keep ourselves uninformed about ourselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

[EarthAngel_2012]

I enjoyed this movie, but it left me with some uneasy feelings. Basically its Ferngully 2.0
with a strong environmental message-- Return to the Forest, &  humans are evil.

It took quite a bit from other places, though for the 12 years of effort put into this, it came out well.
The film still resonates the whole "mother earth" gaia nature soul, who chooses what survives.

At one point they even said something like "everyone gets a second birth" and that second birth
is when they become an accepted part of their tribal community... the humans mocked "deity".

And at the end, the main character was even reborn into this new world, as a new
"super-human" type being, with a super-body, and obviously advanced nature powers.

No it was really good, it just gave me mixed feelings because of how the environmental thing is,
we want real environmentalism, not maniacal anti-humanists pretending to be environmental.

Much much much better than 2012, but not nearly as good as The Matrix.
Check it out if you want to, its interesting. Id like to hear others thoughts though too

tv has alwaysbeen babysitters and teachers.. hollywooy is prtty much disclosure..and the deal is they have to tell us what will happend or what is planned so when i see things on tv it never suprises me and and i look forward to see them introduce some things to the public...i'm curious to see when they will start making movies about the nephilim giants...that should be comming soon.

[Shadow911Zeus]

I enjoyed this movie, but it left me with some uneasy feelings. Basically its Ferngully 2.0
with a strong environmental message-- Return to the Forest, &  humans are evil.

This is exactly what everyone said to me tonight after seeing it.

[Polaris]

[Dig]

You haven't seen it either, have you? Which reinforces my opinion.

I saw it, biggest piece of programming crapola since g.i. joe.

really cool slimy blue and green snot everywere. the dialog is so entrancing, engaging, dramatic, seductive, and completely full of shit.

awesome pods to house people because of overpopulation and spectacular genocidal moments with carbon releasing explosions (I wonder what the carbon footprint of this 21st Century "Triumph of the Will" turns out to be including all of the marketing crap).

humans are so evil.

[kushfiend]

I saw it, biggest piece of programming crapola since g.i. joe.

really cool slimy blue and green snot everywere. the dialog is so entrancing, engaging, dramatic, seductive, and completely full of shit.

awesome pods to house people because of overpopulation and spectacular genocidal moments with carbon releasing explosions (I wonder what the carbon footprint of this 21st Century "Triumph of the Will" turns out to be including all of the marketing crap).

humans are so evil.

just saw this the other night in 3-D at IMAX (not my idea I got dragged along for never "hanging out with friends") and wow what a POS i have to agree SANE.  Talk about a script written by CIA/Illuminati insiders!!!  Double secret agents, and I got a very weird vibe towards the panther people, almost like they are promoting genetic morphing of people and animals.  Making panthers sexy is a promotion of beastiality to me as well, although ppl would say im "reading too deep" i guess. 

Even if you just take AVATAR on the surface value alone, it's still one of the most propaganda filled movies I've seen since District 9.

[John Galt]

just saw this the other night in 3-D at IMAX (not my idea I got dragged along for never "hanging out with friends") and wow what a POS i have to agree SANE.  Talk about a script written by CIA/Illuminati insiders!!!  Double secret agents, and I got a very weird vibe towards the panther people, almost like they are promoting genetic morphing of people and animals.  Making panthers sexy is a promotion of beastiality to me as well, although ppl would say im "reading too deep" i guess.  

Even if you just take AVATAR on the surface value alone, it's still one of the most propaganda filled movies I've seen since District 9.

Go figure, of all people I would have expected ole Grizzly to appreciate this film, and the merging of man with beast.

[luckee1]

I saw it, biggest piece of programming crapola since g.i. joe.

really cool slimy blue and green snot everywere. the dialog is so entrancing, engaging, dramatic, seductive, and completely full of shit.

awesome pods to house people because of overpopulation and spectacular genocidal moments with carbon releasing explosions (I wonder what the carbon footprint of this 21st Century "Triumph of the Will" turns out to be including all of the marketing crap).

humans are so evil.

  Oel ngati kameie

[GUS]

(Mike Adams, Natural News)

James Cameron's Avatar delivers a powerful message of connectedness with Mother Nature

http://www.naturalnews.com/027810_Avatar_James_Cameron.html

If you see just one film this holiday season (or even this year), make it James Cameron's Avatar. It's a powerful, inspiring film that demonstrates movie-making at its best, and it delivers a crucial message for our time: That all living beings are connected and that those who seek to exploit nature rather than respect it will only destroy themselves.

Much of the press about Avatar has focused on the special effects, the motion capture and the 3-D presentation. These are modern filmmaking marvels, for certain, but the film succeeds for a far more important reason: Its story -- and its message. Others have reviewed the film in a more critical light; notably Alex Jones who sees it as more of a propaganda piece (http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-...). But I see the film differently, and I think it carries a strong, positive message. (Spoiler alert: This article discusses some of the plot elements of the film.)

With Avatar, Cameron has delivered a fast-paced fantasy adventure that weaves together a stream of powerful themes that are so important to our modern world that they extend far beyond the world of fictional film: Issues like corporations destroying nature for profit, the lack of respect for living creatures, and the failed policies of "military diplomacy" that the USA continues to pursue. The themes in Avatar reflect the greatest challenges of our modern world, and the message of Avatar is both deeply moving and highly relevant to the future of human civilization. (more)

[GUS]

Alex Jones review of Avatar.

http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-reviews-avatar/

I rest my case.

[level1online]

Avatar should be called

MMO RPG: The Movie, a nerd's wet dream come true

notice how at the beginning of the film, he must "level up" learn the way of the blue creatures.

notice the trials he must go through & the initiation into the clan aka Brotherhood.

at the same time, the more time he spends in that chamber, the more time his real body deteriorates. similar effects as to when someone spends way too much time engaged in a mmo rpg virtual world.

then at the end, he gets the chance to actually become his avatar. it's a nerd's wet dream come true. he also gets to hook up with the female he meets in his "virtual" world.

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also, notice how the blue creatures merge with nature,

while the humans merge with machine.

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also, the blue creatures displayed more humanity than the humans themselves.

[trailhound]

I just saw the movie. While it did have some green propaganda in there I thought it was pretty good too.  For example at one point the main character charges the military/corporations with using terrorism to go in to places and take what you want.  Er, definitely some truth in this propaganda...   Its a long movie with alot of messages some i may have missed or were subconcius etc, that being said, there was some good stuff in there too.

Granted that rat poison is 80% good grain i am not giving the movie my full endorsement or confidence; however, I must admit that I enjoyed it.

There was some green stuff in there but im ok with being green, just not political scam green...know what i mean? That being said, yes the movie reinforces the idea that we are destroying the planet and yes that will play into the hands of the green nazis who dont really give a shit about the planet they just want to enslave us all. Its catch 22...  I want to give a f**k about the planet and not play into the green scam...frustrating.

  There was alot of propaganda making the US military/Corporate Big Dicks out to be the shit asses they are which i liked.  ( in conjunction, i support the troops and dont blame them for following orders)  What i dont like about that is that I know the constitutional republic is going down with the 'possessed' US defense dept.  

As others have noted the film is a high tech futuristic scenario similar to Dances With Wolves.  

Politics aside, Camerons visual work is very impressive. I am not a big movie head and almost always fall asleep whenever my wife drags my ass to the theatre once every 5 years..but this one kept me in to it.  I enjoyed all the colors and creatures.  



 The Earth Will Swallow You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p8hk0y3xnQ&feature=related

[trailhound]

Avatar should be called

MMO RPG: The Movie, a nerd's wet dream come true

notice how at the beginning of the film, he must "level up" learn the way of the blue creatures.

notice the trials he must go through & the initiation into the clan aka Brotherhood.

at the same time, the more time he spends in that chamber, the more time his real body deteriorates. similar effects as to when someone spends way too much time engaged in a mmo rpg virtual world.

then at the end, he gets the chance to actually become his avatar. it's a nerd's wet dream come true. he also gets to hook up with the female he meets in his "virtual" world.

--------

also, notice how the blue creatures merge with nature,

while the humans merge with machine.

--------

also, the blue creatures displayed more humanity than the humans themselves.

 The avatar in the film was a biological body not a virtual one. Also the blue people were biological sentient beings.

 The blue creatures definitely displayed more humanity than the humans.

[Beefcake]

I saw it, biggest piece of programming crapola since g.i. joe.

really cool slimy blue and green snot everywere. the dialog is so entrancing, engaging, dramatic, seductive, and completely full of shit.

awesome pods to house people because of overpopulation and spectacular genocidal moments with carbon releasing explosions (I wonder what the carbon footprint of this 21st Century "Triumph of the Will" turns out to be including all of the marketing crap).

humans are so evil.

It was a good movie.  This movie in no way will make people become environmentalists.  These days i post a lot more on forums that aren't truth sites to try and influence others as oppesed to preach to the choir here and even on those sites no is buying the global warming fraud and they are all calling it a scam.  On these sites they have made countless threads on Avatar and not many even think of it as propaganda for anything except being anti-war.  If they intended the message of the film to be enviromental then it didn't work very well because the overwhelming feeling is that that this movie is a stab at US foreign policy(wars for resources regardless of the inhabitants).

I think you are crying wolf a bit here.  That being said you have been right about many other things and I agree with much of what you say so i guess on this front we will just have to agree to disagree

This is a great movie and to compare it to GI. Joe leads me to believe you haven't seen it but need to say you have for our sake.

[level1online]

The avatar in the film was a biological body not a virtual one.

right. but what i meant, is that those blue creatures looked so cartoonish, it all seemed like a video game virtual world. those special effects, as expensive as they were, did nothing to suspend my disbelief. the whole thing was like the Roger Rabbit or Alvin & The Chipmunks movie in my opinion.

[Piltdown Man]

The elites don't really need to worry about how to fund their various genocides - the public gives up their money with a smile on their face!   

Maybe some on here will actually research thought reform techniques/subliminal messaging, etc so your warnings are not completely in vain.

And yes, the thought that some are seeing it more than once reinforces your premise, in my opinion.

 

thanks grneyed lady!
and yeah, I got no intention of seeing it.
Just ain't my thing.
thanks again

[Piltdown Man]

Projection is considered one of the most profound and subtle of human psychological processes, and extremely difficult to work with, because by its nature it is hidden. It is the fundamental mechanism by which we keep ourselves uninformed about ourselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

projection as in: what comes out of a MOVIE PROJECTOR?
you betcha!  lol couldn't agree more GUS, glad you're comin around.
great point   

[Piltdown Man]

I have no desire to see this because I have no desire to be manipulated.
I really hate big buck illuminati movies; i hate to support them, i hate to go baaa like sheep to stand in line to see them.

  LOL I'd rather spend my time arguing with you guys about a movie I've never seen and don't intend to see.
that's far more interesting to me; because it's unpredictable, edgy, ironic, doesn't cost the gdp of a small country, and I don't get my ears and eyes glutted with high teck nonsense that takes days to push through my system like rich artery cloggin food.

ps
I'm really grateful that all you guys ARE willing to go see it cuz otherwise I wouldn't have anything to hang around here and argue about! 

[kddcc1313]

I saw the movie..........to go in detail dissecting all the false dichotomies presented in the film is beyond the scope of a forum post, however, I believe that is the point of movies such as this, that is, to overwhelm the viewer emotionally, mentally, physically et cetera,... with the intent to further condition the general public; the humanist, atheist, globalist, quasi-patriot, et al, providing the necessary catalyst to "format" the person's mind and allow them to interpret the visual stimuli and logical dichotomies through their own perceived truth system which is then extrapolated through the construct of general society, the matrix so be it, and the phenomenon of collect effervescence runs free and a mass of people arrive at some similar false consciousness.....why, because "they" know that the average human will not search for homogeneity of the logic system presented, hence the rapid rate of dichotomies, they know the general human will fragment the system as intended and embrace the dichotomies, this is why art is and has been one of the most powerful mediums for shaping and controlling logic systems, that is, it is a purposeful fragmentation of a homogeneous logic system and thus it is easily misconstrued, given false meaning, I can show you a photo in which you have no foreknowledge of the whole event surrounding that moment and you will try and understand the image within the scope of your experience, that is why many that are awake seek to know the meaning of art by first studying the artist, this is axiomatic...

...the central myth, a false dichotomy, of the movie is that somewhere in this present system exists the chance of perfect harmony of the being's with the system, which is purely a lie and violates all known laws of the universe, to ponder the existence of such is foolishness at best,...  this knowledge leads to the tenant that is central in all organized religion, that is, one must leave this current system and enter a new system that is "corrected", meaning the innate corruptness of the system must be removed, then and only then can harmony be achieved......in the end this is another stunning piece of shiite, ultimately empty and effective...

[Michal Ptacnik]

...the central myth, a false dichotomy, of the movie is that somewhere in this present system exists the chance of perfect harmony of the being's with the system, which is purely a lie and violates all known laws of the universe, to ponder the existence of such is foolishness at best,...  this knowledge leads to the tenant that is central in all organized religion, that is, one must leave this current system and enter a new system that is "corrected", meaning the innate corruptness of the system must be removed, then and only then can harmony be achieved......in the end this is another stunning piece of shiite, ultimately empty and effective...

No one says that Eywa is perfect. Even the Na'vi have had "times of sadness" from time to time. The movie even goes to such lengths as to portray the human antagonists as characters with depth. The colonel, for instance, cares for his people, his mission, he is brave and daring and a good leader, if a bit cruel, hardened by the harsh life in the active millitary; he does not disobey orders and is willing to go against morality, but he is not just a straight out black hat bad guy.

This is really just a struggle of homesteaders to keep their own culture and way of life, which works out for them, against the greedy government - and the corporation is nothing short of a government; it has the power over Pandora and it uses it. And the Gaia religion there is a scientific one and can not be readily transplanted into the real world, as it is, since our own Gaia, if she exists, is not nearly as obvious scientifically as Eywa is.

Live and let live is the message; I would not search for anti-democratic pro-NWO "conditioning" where there is none.

[kddcc1313]

...homeostasis is a set of rules that govern this system, try as you may, and with some mild success to some varying degree to become symbiotic with this system and you will find that this homeostasis is neither intrinsic or intelligent, it is simply an algorithm with necessary inputs and outputs, again this is the lie of the story, that self aware beings can harmonize with the system, with limited failure, ref. your time of sadness example, and other ref. contained within the film... also the movie confirms or at least profits from the Biblical account of the fall of the system wholly, that death, predator/prey, entered into the system and governed this new homeostasis...regardless the movie in no way deals with the issue of evil, that comes to dominate the false system, it merely deals with the results of evil, again it creates false dichotomies in order to program thought....you cannot have B and B not simultaneously in A, and the movie does just that........

[kddcc1313]

Live and let live is the message;

In order to do so you must deal with the nature of evil, I submitt that it cannot be removed from this system, because it is a necessary within the current form, therefore it is a false dichotomy to suggest otherwise....

[Omni1]

I saw it the other night.. The movie wasn't all that good (boring plot..cliche lines, etc..) but there really wasn't any globalist message behind it.

If anything, the movie was about the little guy standing up to the establishment, and winning.  If anything, it was pro movement.

Those who "found" some globalist message in it are the same people who actively seek out, and twist everything into some conspiracy anyway, so it's no surprise they think they "found" some hidden message...

[kddcc1313]

Those who "found" some globalist message in it are the same people who actively seek out, and twist everything into some conspiracy anyway, so it's no surprise they think they "found" some hidden message...

Your straw man argument is lame...

[Michal Ptacnik]

Those who "found" some globalist message in it are the same people who actively seek out, and twist everything into some conspiracy anyway, so it's no surprise they think they "found" some hidden message...

No it is not. There are many of us here guilty as charged, and it does not help the freedom of this planet one iota.

It is a natural reaction to the growing complexity and incomprehensibility of the world, I reckon, a future shock if you will, to create conspiracy theories as shortcuts. In my opinion, it is really the problem of the uncaring society, that, as all mental illnesses, this is but a natural reaction to a clearly unnatural environment, an attempt to cope with something that can not be coped with; you abandon reason when reason (apparently) flees the cold, uncaring, paradoxical world you experience around you.

But that does not mean those afflicted are correct in their observation in any way, or that their opinions, based on a subjective distortion of perception, would matter or change something, safe perhaps for the worse if they shout them loud enough for the sheepish people to listen. I think this is one of the chief reasons why we, as a movement, are doomed to fail, as in the end, we fail to discern the wheat from the chalk.

[kddcc1313]

we fail to discern the wheat from the chalk.

don't you mean chaff?

...generally I think the point has been misunderstood, perhaps your comments were dealing with the overarching issues brought out in this thread, however, it is not indicative of mental illness to distrust the larger majority of Hollywood's output, which I believe you referred to more generally, that a majority of us are in a genralized state of fear... I disagree...

[mr anderson]

Good advice sane....I mean really....25,000 seeds...god knows what kind of virus you could pick up jumping into that mix 

cough.....cough....ahem

To quote Eddie Murphy:

"One day you'll put your dick in there and it'll just explode". 

[agentbluescreen]

Your straw man argument is lame...

Beg your pardon, but aside from it being a Dances with Wolves of a different color, it is lso  prophetic story about how British America will inevitably be "handed it's hat" as it was and has been in Vietnam and Kuwait (new OPEC currency?), and how it soon shall be in Babylon, Arabia and Afghanistan in the very unlikely post-Armageddon events that there will be any of these places left at the end of these colossally disastrous adventurist mistakes of misguided conquest.

The diseases are established corporate-fascist religionism in London, Washington, Saudi Arabia and Israel, yet the symptom-battles that they fight are anywhere else but.

The moral and the message is that fearsome, corrupt and invulnerable terrorist tyrannies can only (and do always) collapse from within, by the fruits of their own arrogances.

reread your words here, agentblue, and think how it would feel to read this as a full blooded Lakota Sioux lawyer or professor or rockin artist.  "few sad remnants of a once proud culture???"  
"grossly disinherited?"  

I don't know about you, but i'd be pissed.  I'd grab your shoulders with my beautiful red living hands, back you into a corner and say:
 
Agent blue, I'm not sad, I'm not a remnant, and I'm still proud.

(PS: my father was a full blooded Cree born at the end of the Trail of Tears in an orphanage in Okmulgee Oklahoma.  He built the Truman Library in Independence, Missouri, the Lyric Opera house in Kansas City, and was the most accomplished, refined, magnanimous human I have ever known.  So lay off the sad remnants of a once proud culture shiite, your ignorance is hitting too close to my heart on this one.  Thanks.  no hard feelings.)

Nothing personal here either and I'm glad and edified that you (at least) feel so charitably magnanimous about the theft of you and your tribal families inheritance, but as the stepfather of an incredibly beautiful part Algonquin young girl who was called a "wagon burner" in school just a few short years ago here in Southern Ontario even in this day and age I still cannot agree with you.

This continent has never honestly belonged to any white Europeans. Aboriginal true Americans still fight to this day for a mere pittance of their rightfully deserved massive reparations from the Christianist criminals who pillaged their culture and lands.

And also forgive me for still feeling sorry for anyone who built monument to Truman, the mass Nagasaki Christian-murdering idiot who surrendered to MI6/Churchill at Potsdam, and sold out America by his actions being directly responsible for establishing the criminal, unconstitutional permanent Christianist-Nazi CIA/Pentagon Mafia in America. (despite him temporarily blocking the NDA in 1947)

I'm and Italian American/German Canadian who was raised "Catholic". I am all too well aware of what "my people" did, and why and how.

I reserve the right to have "hard feelings", but certainly not here about this.

[mr anderson]

I'd rather be taxed to pay for one united World Army that has nobody else to fight, and nothing else to fight for than a peaceful, constructive and prosperous loving future for all mankind.

Come again? Taxed for your oppression.. 

Nobody else to fight, yeah right lol

That's you and me.

[mr anderson]

I saw the film Saturday morning.

It was great seeing it in 3D also.

I felt there were two main issues addressed: War (Invasion / Occupation) & Environment (Resources, Connectedness with the planet). The background issue being what AI described as our best weapon against the NWO; decentralised networked communications - http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=152507.msg905117#msg905117

Almost straight away I felt there was an Iraqi War parallel with the occupation of Pandora for the resource *sigh called Unobtanium. That slowly evolved into a Gaian / Buddhist angle which seemed bearable for a while until it became clear to me that Cameron is trying to tell me something. That I'm a consumerist virus who actively applauds the methods in obtaining the lifestyle I enjoy and that I should reject it and instead sacrifice my freedoms therefore my lifestyle for the betterment of the planet.

From my point of view there needs to be a balance, not a total shift into peasantry and obedience of the state & not a shift into resource wars.

Those pushing the new 'green' religion are the very ones raping the planet for resources.

[iRonic]

Those who "found" some globalist message in it are the same people who actively seek out, and twist everything into some conspiracy anyway, so it's no surprise they think they "found" some hidden message...

I saw AVATAR tonight and after reading this thread and hearing alex's take on it, i thought i was in for some really heavy propoganda, to my suprise it seemed very pro human spirit,
If by a globalist message meaning the na'vi tribes across pandora united to fight a common cause wich was to protect there way of life,  is a bad thing?
Or if your offended the na'vi have a deep spiritual connection to there planet pandora and taught to respect all things, and whats wrong with that?

i think your right omni1, i just didint see it,i did not see the levels of mind controlling green nazi triumph of will propoganda some have posted in this thread, i feel very let down