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« Reply #120 on: December 10, 2009, 08:38:27 AM »

In the segment about nano-thermite, the molten steel dripping from the beam bore a very close visual resemblance to the molten steel dripping from the Northeast corner of 2WTC before it collapsed.  A paired visual, combined with Professor Jones's recitation of his incandescicity lecture, would be very powerful

It is also indeed certain that the jet engine of the northeast-bound 2nd jet (regardless of it's true identity) that penetrated through the 2nd building, ricocheting off the concrete and rebar steel reinforced anti-torque central concrete floor supporting "core collar" of the building, and exiting out that side window had both broken a hole into the shaftways and gouged a ditch into the floor which directed that incendiary stream from the core columns to flow out that side.

That same engine, as seen escaping the fireball on TV, was also subsequently recovered on the road several blocks away. Any metallurgical examination of that engine could help determine if the incendiaries where or where not already activated before the moment of it's impact.
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« Reply #121 on: December 10, 2009, 08:54:05 AM »

agentbluescreen:

Thanks for explaining the path of the engine.  I'd never heard that before.  (The Gaudet Brothers' film shows a cop standing over the engine, yelling at people to not touch or kick it, as it constitutes evidence.  (At least SOMEBODY there that morning knew how to handle evidence!))

My theory is that the impact into the 78th Floor Sky Lobby (a more open, less obstructed space than most floors of the towers, which meant that the impact into the interior of the building wouldn't have been attenuated to the extent that the impact of AA11 into 1WTC was) and fire set off only the nano-thermate in the immediate proximity of the aircraft.  In my post on the discussion thread concerning the "Active Thermitic Materials..." paper, I hypothesized that the elemental iron bound with the nan-thermate (the grey side of the chips) served as thermal insulation to prevent premature or accidental ignition of the nano-thermate, exploiting the property of iron as a very capacious reservoir of heat.
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« Reply #122 on: December 10, 2009, 09:06:09 AM »

 Grin to see this on "lame stream" TV.

THANK YOU ... Jesse and Crew


 Everyone........ contact TRU TV and Thank them for this program, let them know that if there were more of this "TRU TV" we'd "stay tuned".
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« Reply #123 on: December 10, 2009, 09:27:25 AM »

Grin to see this on "lame stream" TV.

THANK YOU ... Jesse and Crew


 Everyone........ contact TRU TV and Thank them for this program, let them know that if there were more of this "TRU TV" we'd "stay tuned".

of course we would! Smiley Thanks trutv and Jesse!!!!! It was awesome!
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« Reply #124 on: December 10, 2009, 09:48:48 AM »

Grin to see this on "lame stream" TV.

THANK YOU ... Jesse and Crew


 Everyone........ contact TRU TV and Thank them for this program, let them know that if there were more of this "TRU TV" we'd "stay tuned".


Great Idea.  On Tru TV's home page right now is Jesse's show in video asking questions, hahah.

I think this is the link for the contact form for the show, we definitely should let them know we are fans.

http://www.trutv.com/contact/index.html?subject_id=180&start=true

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« Reply #125 on: December 10, 2009, 09:49:45 AM »

Wow, that June is hot.
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« Reply #126 on: December 10, 2009, 09:52:00 AM »

Elite team of investigators,LMAO!!! WOW! what a joke,other than that I like the show,last night was not to bad.
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« Reply #127 on: December 10, 2009, 10:38:54 AM »

That was great! Keep em coming Jessie!
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« Reply #128 on: December 10, 2009, 11:00:30 AM »

Hey it's a start so good going Jesse and crew!

I would have liked to see a scroll of certain rights that were taken away when Jesse was speaking about the patriot act.  Seeing people are lazy and might not look up what was really in those executive orders, having the words jump at them on screen perhaps might have knocked some logic into them as to why the criminal government wanted a false flag.  Also, giving another example of a famous false flag, say what Hitler did, would have been icing on the cake.

Can't wait for next week!
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« Reply #129 on: December 10, 2009, 11:07:18 AM »

Wow, that June is hot.

yes indeed!
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« Reply #130 on: December 10, 2009, 11:23:53 AM »

agentbluescreen:

Thanks for explaining the path of the engine.  I'd never heard that before.  (The Gaudet Brothers' film shows a cop standing over the engine, yelling at people to not touch or kick it, as it constitutes evidence.  (At least SOMEBODY there that morning knew how to handle evidence!))

My theory is that the impact into the 78th Floor Sky Lobby (a more open, less obstructed space than most floors of the towers, which meant that the impact into the interior of the building wouldn't have been attenuated to the extent that the impact of AA11 into 1WTC was) and fire set off only the nano-thermate in the immediate proximity of the aircraft.  In my post on the discussion thread concerning the "Active Thermitic Materials..." paper, I hypothesized that the elemental iron bound with the nan-thermate (the grey side of the chips) served as thermal insulation to prevent premature or accidental ignition of the nano-thermate, exploiting the property of iron as a very capacious reservoir of heat.

Well 99% of the run-off from the pre-incendiaries should have drained down the elevator shafts and eaten through the two sky-lobby firewalls into the concrete core column container, as Mr Rodriguez observed from the victim burns. The inner core's weight was prestressed to the outer exoskeletal frame by the earlier subterranean demolitions to in effect 'sink' the floors (severely sagging the lobbies and floors to the outer core so that no incendiaries needed to be used on the outside core-frame 'can' of the structures. Yet we have this one obvious case of the visible exterior molten-flow where that strategy did not hold true.

The singular anomaly of that outer-right engine's path explains it.

After the incendiaries had ripened the core steel, 20 explosions cracking open the concrete core collar sent 5 floor high self-desintegrating demo-hammer sections to slide off one another, crashing down into one another collapsing the two main tower structures in a messy top-down pyroclastic-disintegration cataclysm. The internal 5 floor hammers popped-off the exoskeletal can support steel as they self-disintegrated one another, also dismembering the vacant top truss-caps on their long-ways down.

"Boom Boom Boom - all the way down!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iya_s7J7K6Y


The flimsier WTC7 used the more traditional intact outer-shell internal crimp-buckling takedown-demolition bottom-up method. It remained externally intact as all of each of its levels of internal supports (in an extraordinarily well controlled and ordered fashion) simultaneously crumpled into it's basement.
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« Reply #131 on: December 10, 2009, 11:41:46 AM »

I'll have to watch it when I get home from work. I can't wait.

My dad, who has been hard to turn around the past few years said he loved the show. He said many of the things he already knew, which was surprising. He has been somewhat critical of Jesse Ventura since we're from Minnesota and the media here love to attack him from every angle they can.
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« Reply #132 on: December 10, 2009, 12:02:03 PM »

I was quite impressed by the amount of original investigation that was in this piece... shows what unbiased reporting can do ... just imagine what we could have accomplished if the BBC actually made an attempt at seriously investigating it.
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« Reply #133 on: December 10, 2009, 01:19:33 PM »

Supposedly next week I'll be able to watch the show in HD rather than the SD cropped HD version as my area is getting one one Comcast's "World of More" upgrades.   I thought the report was pretty good.  I had some relatives at Thanksgiving mention that Ventura was going to have a new program.  I hoped they watched this episode.  Which means they may be talking about how 9-11 was a inside job as if they just discovered it and yet I've been saying that for years.  Grin
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« Reply #134 on: December 10, 2009, 02:48:05 PM »

Was I just seeing things, or was that Luke Radowski(?) with the guy talking to Jesse in NY at ground zero? The first scene at ground zero Jesse is talking to a guy briefly, and the person next to the guy talking to Jesse looks alot like Luke. He's wearing a hoodie and knit cap I think. It wasn't a long shot.
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« Reply #135 on: December 10, 2009, 02:51:54 PM »

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I think it was Luke.
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« Reply #136 on: December 10, 2009, 02:55:08 PM »

agentbluescreen:

Are you sure the burn victims observed by Rodriguez were burned by the heat from molten iron from above?  Mightn't they have been burned by the explosions in the basement?  The Gaudet Brothers' film shows people exiting elevators uninjured long after the impact.
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« Reply #137 on: December 10, 2009, 03:07:35 PM »

agentbluescreen:

Are you sure the burn victims observed by Rodriguez were burned by the heat from molten iron from above?  Mightn't they have been burned by the explosions in the basement?  The Gaudet Brothers' film shows people exiting elevators uninjured long after the impact.

that is my understanding, that it was the explosions.
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« Reply #138 on: December 10, 2009, 03:39:48 PM »

For all who are waiting on torrents or watching on utube here's a hd copy that u can put on a CD http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VH3UJHCK
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« Reply #139 on: December 10, 2009, 06:19:10 PM »

That FBI agent had a piggy grin on his face.
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« Reply #140 on: December 10, 2009, 06:36:55 PM »



Bless this mans heart, soul and courage.

I am impressed,Yes one happy camper, I had a feeling Jesse would get to it, though I figured he would have gone a tad slower, he didn't, it was balllls to the wall..

This made my day.

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« Reply #141 on: December 10, 2009, 08:34:13 PM »

^ Probably because 2001 is already well off in history for the docile sheep to give a hoot when it's the reason for the PATRIOT Act, our two current wars, FISA, and all of the scandals in between.
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« Reply #142 on: December 10, 2009, 08:46:41 PM »

the biggest issue for me, and it would clear up alot, would be release some of the 5-10 or so different video footage of the security cameras of the pentagon being hit.
I mean if its just a plane skimming, and then hitting, then show it. that is the biggest chunk, is that they could clear the name right now, and just show that footage
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« Reply #143 on: December 10, 2009, 09:17:04 PM »

I haven't read this whole thread - but a couple of things:

The super-thermite demo done by New Mexico Tech. was very interesting, to say the least.  Even if you are a 'non-believer' - do yourself a favor and google 'super-thermite New Mexico' - should come up with some links.

The 'black-boxes' were never officially found?  (Show has evidence to the contrary.)

And - the bombshell - the 9/11 attackers were in the cockpits of the UA planes *before* they took off?  If this is true - then that would prove just about everything. 

Whether you like Jesse or not - the Mom asking him for help at the beginning of the show says it all.  He's doing his due diligence.  How about the rest of us?  Jesse has a thick hide and he doesn't care what people call him - but I would say about 99.9% of all of the people that call him names, etc. have done 0% to find what the truth really is.

Take a look at who has signed the petition at http://www.ae911truth.org - do you think all of these licensed architects and engineers are section 8's? 
 
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« Reply #144 on: December 10, 2009, 10:13:52 PM »

Is there a link to view the show online?
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« Reply #145 on: December 10, 2009, 10:39:35 PM »

Is there a link to view the show online?

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=149688.msg890599#msg890599

Enjoy!
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« Reply #146 on: December 10, 2009, 11:01:12 PM »

OMG this is supreme! Watch a media wanker LEAVE the show! On Fox! Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcN6YQ-nq8
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« Reply #147 on: December 11, 2009, 01:35:45 AM »

Mike Ballone NEEDS TO DELIVER some "terrified flight controllers" IMMEDIATELY before he is 'suicide'd or 'accident'd - if his 'hi-jackers in the cockpit before take-off' claim is true then all those people are in danger anyway.

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« Reply #148 on: December 11, 2009, 02:21:35 AM »

Hijackers in the cockpit before the plane(s) left the ground!

My jaw dropped when I heard that. The fallout from that little detail would be interesting to observe.
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« Reply #149 on: December 11, 2009, 02:36:27 AM »

Mike Philbin:

What the airline people do is outside of Mr. Bellone's control.

His mouth wrote a check that his friends couldn't cash.

From now on, perhaps our movement, for its own protection, should accept only evidence to which the witness is demonstrably percipient, such as Mr. Bellone's personal observation of the recovered black box.

It's up to the airline people, fearing for their lives, to save their lives by coming forward with their information.

I know what it's like to be left in the lurch, so please don't blame Mr. Bellone for his failure to induce corroborative witnesses to come forward.
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« Reply #150 on: December 11, 2009, 03:10:40 AM »

OMG this is supreme! Watch a media wanker LEAVE the show! On Fox! Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcN6YQ-nq8

That is a priceless interview to watch.  Poor Brian was way out of his league on that one. Grin
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« Reply #151 on: December 11, 2009, 03:42:35 AM »

wow this is good.. Spread this VIDEO VIRAL

Use twitter.. and filesharing networks..

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« Reply #152 on: December 11, 2009, 06:06:01 AM »

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And - the bombshell - the 9/11 attackers were in the cockpits of the UA planes *before* they took off?  If this is true - then that would prove just about everything.
How does that prove anything?

I thought the planes were remote controlled?
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« Reply #153 on: December 11, 2009, 06:49:49 AM »

We need a Real investigation to get answers to those questions.
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« Reply #154 on: December 11, 2009, 07:06:03 AM »

How does that prove anything?

I thought the planes were remote controlled?

Anything that is not in line with the official story, so it REQUIRES AN INVESTIGATION!

This is the greatest crime scene in the history of the world and anything that is not fully explained must be investigated, this is just common sense.
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« Reply #155 on: December 11, 2009, 07:58:24 AM »

Conspiracy Theory S01E02 - 'The 9/11 Conspiracy'
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Check the episode guide for the title of the episode and cross-reference that on piratebay for the correct torrent.  Tongue
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« Reply #156 on: December 11, 2009, 11:33:18 AM »

WAIT A MINUTE!

THERE IS CORROBORATION OF BELLONE'S CLAIM ... IN THE OFFICIAL RECORD!

AA77 (the Pentagon plane from Dulles), according to the official story, made a brief but significant departure from its planned route which took it into a radar hole WHILE THE PLANE WAS STILL UNDER ITS LAWFUL COMMAND! (Compare Operation Northwoods' discussion of the strategic use of radar holes to allow for the exchange of electronic IDs between aircraft in flight.)

So, something hijacking related happened BEFORE the official story claims the plane had been hijacked.

That fact has been on my mind for years,and I can't believe it took me this long to put the two facts together.

I must be gittin' old.
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« Reply #157 on: December 11, 2009, 12:46:33 PM »

they're dead if they don't - if they DO come forward, there's EVERY CHANCE 9-11 can be exposed and some REAL CRIMINALS can be locked away FOR A LONG TIME.

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« Reply #158 on: December 11, 2009, 12:50:34 PM »

Hmm - now I could swear I posted replies on this thread  Cry
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« Reply #159 on: December 11, 2009, 01:22:58 PM »

Hmm - now I could swear I posted replies on this thread  Cry

was it the promotion of crapping all over the work of jesse? if so it is probably here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=150988.0
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