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WTC built with demolition in mind?
« on: December 04, 2009, 07:31:36 PM »
Some guy at YouTube says what he meant was the towers were designed for controlled demolition:
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At 6:45, "It's a 30 year old conspiracy" refers to the fact the towers were built to demolish. Engineered precision concrete containers for high explosives in the shape of architectural elements.
No other way possible to get the uniformity and pulverization that happened.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 07:33:56 PM »
You're saying they were built with 9/11 in mind?
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 07:49:40 PM »
You're saying they were built with 9/11 in mind?
Well, supposedly there were a lot of subtle indications of 9/11 in Hollywood movies in the 90s and beyond. There is a YouTube series about it called "911 in Hollywood".
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 08:02:09 PM »
Some guy at YouTube says what he meant was the towers were designed for controlled demolition:

sorry charlie, that is a bunch of bull crap.

30 year conspiracy refers to iron mountain if anything and the 30 year TERRORISM/PATRIOT ACT conditioning.

the buildings were not everything, there was the pentagon, the airline industry, foreign wars.

this was bigger than 2 buildings.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 08:18:19 PM »
sorry charlie, that is a bunch of bull crap.

30 year conspiracy refers to iron mountain if anything and the 30 year TERRORISM/PATRIOT ACT conditioning.

the buildings were not everything, there was the pentagon, the airline industry, foreign wars.

this was bigger than 2 buildings.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 08:25:17 PM »
sorry charlie, that is a bunch of bull crap.

30 year conspiracy refers to iron mountain if anything and the 30 year TERRORISM/PATRIOT ACT conditioning.

the buildings were not everything, there was the pentagon, the airline industry, foreign wars.

this was bigger than 2 buildings.

I was just reading that guy getting pissed off hehe. STOP GRASPING AT AIR DUMB ASS
Christopher.  That was crazy that just came out of his mouth. "NO sir I was talking about 9/11."  "SO WAS I"
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 08:37:25 PM »
sorry charlie, that is a bunch of bull crap.

30 year conspiracy refers to iron mountain if anything and the 30 year TERRORISM/PATRIOT ACT conditioning.

the buildings were not everything, there was the pentagon, the airline industry, foreign wars.

this was bigger than 2 buildings.

how do we know this isnt true (built for demolition) ?

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 08:44:11 PM »
how do we know this isnt true (built for demolition) ?
Yeah, I believe it could be.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 09:45:40 PM »
how do we know this isnt true (built for demolition) ?

because there were hundreds of structural tests after any weather storm, plane hitting, reconstruction, '93 bombing, etc.

WTF?

when they exploded it, did it look like it was built for demolition?

IT EXPLODED WITH THE MOST ADVANCED FORMS OF DEMOLITION CONTROLLED MOST LIKELY FROM BUILDING 7 WHICH WAS BUILT LATER.

THE EMERGENCY BUNKER WAS BUILT WAY LATER.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2009, 11:09:54 AM »
Meaning, when built, it was planned to be destroyed in 30 years.

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2009, 11:54:13 AM »
Meaning, when built, it was planned to be destroyed in 30 years.

If they're that precise with their timing then we're in really big trouble.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2009, 12:57:13 PM »
If they're that precise with their timing then we're in really big trouble.
Yes, but back then there were hardly any people that would expose or interfere with their plans.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2009, 04:25:20 PM »
Paul Laffoley on this Freeman episode talks about a Bin Laden connection to the construction of the WTC and predemolition (around the 30 minute mark), donít know how credible that is or how it could be verified but I thought of it when I came across the thread

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2079164812094549048&hl=en&emb=1#

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2009, 04:47:31 PM »
because there were hundreds of structural tests after any weather storm, plane hitting, reconstruction, '93 bombing, etc.

WTF?

when they exploded it, did it look like it was built for demolition?

IT EXPLODED WITH THE MOST ADVANCED FORMS OF DEMOLITION CONTROLLED MOST LIKELY FROM BUILDING 7 WHICH WAS BUILT LATER.

THE EMERGENCY BUNKER WAS BUILT WAY LATER.

Do you believe there were explosives/thermite in the building?

If you do, surely its an open question how they got in there?

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2009, 05:11:48 PM »

As magnificent an archwtectural marvel it was, I've heard it really wasn't built nearly as well as it should have. In hindsight the whole thing stinks worse than enron

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2009, 05:43:54 PM »
Do you believe there were explosives/thermite in the building?

If you do, surely its an open question how they got in there?

absolutely, that is why there needs to be an investigation. anyone denying this is so full of shit it is coming out of their ears. anyone trying to focus on this and provoke a stupid answer without an investigation is dividing the movement evenif they are not aware.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2009, 05:47:47 PM »
As magnificent an archwtectural marvel it was, I've heard it really wasn't built nearly as well as it should have. In hindsight the whole thing stinks worse than enron

Where did you here that??  It was overbuilt.  I think over 150%.

To think it was designed and built for destruction is ludicrous.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2009, 09:09:09 PM »
I don't think the twin towers were built for demolition, but they became a prime target when the technology to do the job came along.

The towers were a huge 11 on the skyline.  One of the high occultic numbers.  That 11 stood looming over the city for years, then it was used in a human sacrifice ritual.

Or so I think.

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2009, 11:38:14 AM »
Where did you here that??  It was overbuilt.  I think over 150%.

To think it was designed and built for destruction is ludicrous.
I remember that the source for this I read talked about the fact that new york is a gangster city, and that the first builder did an estimate, and then the owner got someone else to do it for like a tenth the price. when someone was coming to see it they thought it was really flimsy, i dont remember the details though, sorry.

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2009, 11:53:06 AM »
Yes, but back then there were hardly any people that would expose or interfere with their plans.

Nice theory but the patents for nanothermate (and all nanotechnology itself for that matter) post-date the construction of both towers by many years. (approx 1995)

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Nanothermite composites containing metallic fuel and inorganic oxidizer are gaining importance due to their outstanding combustion characteristics.

In this paper, the combustion behaviors of copper oxide/aluminum nanothermites are discussed. CuO nanorods were synthesized using the surfactant-templating method, then mixed or self-assembled with Al nanoparticles. This nanoscale mixing resulted in a large interfacial contact area between fuel and oxidizer.

As a result, the reaction of the low density nanothermite composite leads to a fast propagating combustion, generating shock waves with Mach numbers up to 3.

©2007 American Institute of Physics

Work at Los Alamos and other labs on these substances did not begin until the late 1990's
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In recent years researchers have found that energetic materials/ingredients that are produced on the nanoscale have the promise of increased performance in a variety of ways including sensitivity, stability, energy release, and mechanical properties.

As such, they represent a completely new frontier for energetic material research and development with the potential for major payoffs in weapons systems.

Very simply, nanoenergetics can store higher amounts of energy than conventional energetic materials and one can use them in unprecedented ways to tailor the release of this energy so as to maximize the lethality of the weapons.

The field of nanoenergetics R&D is quite young, but is already undergoing rapid growth. The goal of this article is to give the reader a sense for the physical and chemical characteristics and properties that make these materials so promising

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2009, 11:58:53 AM »
I remember that the source for this I read talked about the fact that new york is a gangster city, and that the first builder did an estimate, and then the owner got someone else to do it for like a tenth the price. when someone was coming to see it they thought it was really flimsy, i dont remember the details though, sorry.

The World Trade Center was a strong, over-built edifice, an award-winning design, and no amount of fudging can sidestep the facts. One investigator--and it seems like everyone in America EXCEPT structural engineers is seeking answers to the collapse--noted the 110 story towers, weighing 500,000 tons each, won many prestigious awards, from the VERY SAME ENGINEERS WHO NOW PROCLAIM ITS FLAWED DESIGN & FRAILTY!

Outstanding Civil Engineering Achievement, 1971,

American Society of Civil Engineers.

Honor Award for Engineering Excellence,

Consulting Engineers Council of the United States.

Grand Award for Engineering Excellence,

New York Association of Consulting Engineers.

Apparently the Twin Towers were indeed "Modern Marvels," engineering masterpieces, constructed with load-bearing redundancies many times over. Engineered to withstand Category 5 hurricanes and designed to absorb the impact of a fuel-laden Boeing jumbo jet. Apparently the towers were far stronger than the average American skyscraper or why would they have won so many awards?
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2009, 12:20:01 PM »
The World Trade Center was a strong, over-built edifice, an award-winning design, and no amount of fudging can sidestep the facts.
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Apparently the Twin Towers were indeed "Modern Marvels," engineering masterpieces, constructed with load-bearing redundancies many times over. Engineered to withstand Category 5 hurricanes and designed to absorb the impact of a fuel-laden Boeing jumbo jet. Apparently the towers were far stronger than the average American skyscraper or why would they have won so many awards?

"No Virginia, the Twin Towers were not bought on sale at Wal Mart!"

They were built in the "bigger is better" days when DeSotos, Mercurys and Buicks were heavier and many times stronger than any pickup truck is today.

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2009, 04:34:49 PM »
why does Rockefeller have to be involved in everything suspicious

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2010, 03:13:53 AM »
What nobody is mentioning is the dirty little secret that US GOVT ROUTINELY PLANS TO BLOW UP IT'S OWN BUILDINGS IN EXPLOSIVE CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS.

That was my job in US Air Force in the 1980s in England at RAF Upper Heyford. Except we used live nukes to bomb our active US military base, in a heavily populated area near Oxford. Every nuke base has an Alert Area with max security, with jets in bunkers loaded with live nukes, with aircrews on standby 24/7. Our job as Weapons Loaders was explosive demolition in case of invasion and retreat (suicide mission most likely). On a regular basis we practiced detonation of all nukes on the base, dozens in the Victor Alert area, and perhaps dozens or hundreds more nukes inside the bomb storage bunkers. This was doen by attaching 3 C4 shaped charges to each nuclear bomb, 3 nukes per F111 aircraft, laying out explosive Detonation Cord between the bunkers. Allegedly 3 shaped charges would fail to nuke the nuke, and just fragment it into a dirty bomb, contained inside the solid bunker.

This was a common job for 1,000s of US soldiers at every nuke base worldwide. What was Jesse Ventura and Navy SEALS blowing up in the Vietnam War? Was it US military bases and US embassies?

These drills were run under command of generals at NATO. But what if we were ordered to put 4 shaped charges on each nuke -- would that make it go nuclear? Everything we did was guarded by Security Police with orders to shoot to kill, if one hand merely got out of sight of the other 2 load crew members (2 Hand Rule). We never did practice retreat rescue of PEOPLE. Why not just fly the jets out with the nukes? Makes me suspect it was a suicide mission. When you read Operation Northwoods, you realize the psychos at the Pentagon are easily capable of tricking US troops into nuking ourselves with nuclear explosions, using false-flag excuses.

All the nukes on our base in England were targeted at West Germany (where US troops were), not at Commie Eastern Europe. In 2009 the director of West German Intelligence wrote a book saying US and UK Govt had secretly been running the German Govt since WW2, under extortion threat of nuking West Germany. In Gerd-Helmut Komossaís book The German Card, Germany has, even today, been controlled by the United States and its allies, and was even viewed as a possible target.

Germany's sovereignty restricted by US and allies
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So if Uncle Scam would plan to bomb its own military bases, why not have similar contingency plans for civilian govt buildings, for a variety of "emergency reasons"? Easy to see how WTC could be prewired with miles of explosives and det cord, months or years in advance. WTC was built by the Rockefellers (Bill Clinton Blythe's ba$tard family), and was probably built from Day 1 with the intention of sacrificing it in controlled demolition. Kill the demolition crew immediately, to shut them up. CIA and Special Forces do that all the time, plus MI6 and Mossad.

Read Revelation 9:11 to see why Satanic NWO picked that date.

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2010, 03:55:40 AM »
I don't think the buildings were wired when they were built but it wouldnt surprise me if one of the reasons they were built in the first place was for them to be demolished eventually. David Rockefeller was like the spear-header of the project that became the world trade center and we know these people like to plan decades ahead (they were planning the EU around that time) so maybe during one of their satanic blood orgies, one enthusastically suggested "hey let's build two skyscrapers and then 50 years later when technology is more advanced, blow the shit out of them, kill thousands and use it as an excuse for imperialism, enslavement and mass genocide!"
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2010, 01:36:01 PM »
The World Trade Center was a strong, over-built edifice, an award-winning design, and no amount of fudging can sidestep the facts. One investigator--and it seems like everyone in America EXCEPT structural engineers is seeking answers to the collapse--noted the 110 story towers, weighing 500,000 tons each, won many prestigious awards, from the VERY SAME ENGINEERS WHO NOW PROCLAIM ITS FLAWED DESIGN & FRAILTY!

Outstanding Civil Engineering Achievement, 1971,

American Society of Civil Engineers.

Honor Award for Engineering Excellence,

Consulting Engineers Council of the United States.

Grand Award for Engineering Excellence,

New York Association of Consulting Engineers.

Apparently the Twin Towers were indeed "Modern Marvels," engineering masterpieces, constructed with load-bearing redundancies many times over. Engineered to withstand Category 5 hurricanes and designed to absorb the impact of a fuel-laden Boeing jumbo jet. Apparently the towers were far stronger than the average American skyscraper or why would they have won so many awards?
Gimme a break, even the new one is being built by the LOWEST BIDDER

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=4623269


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2. World Trade Center poorly built, prof says - Inside Bay Area

      "BERKELEY ó The civil-engineering industry s failure to admit that cost-saving design features led to the World Trade Center collapse amounts to "moral ..."
http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_6870093?source=rss\

LOL

Feb. 15, 1964
A Times article says a group has raised the question of the towers' safety in the case of an explosion or airplane crash. Richard Roth releases a statement saying that the project's structural engineering firm has done a study proving that damage from an airplane traveling 600 miles per hour would be only local and that people elsewhere in the towers would be safe.
ē Article: Text | Reproduction (pdf)

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/magazine/08wtc-timeline.html?_r=1

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2010, 01:44:54 PM »
wasn't Marvin Bush in charge of security for the WTC complex?  Also, I remember hearing about how entire floors were evacuated 2-3 weeks before 9/11 for days at a time.  Whole work crews would be the only people going in and out of these particular floors.  It would only take 2-3 weeks for top level demolitions teams to wire the entire WTC buildings.

Where they built with the knowledge that one day they would be sacrificed to generate the war on terror?  Who knows, maybe.  But I don't think they were built lined with explosives already.  That was done in the few weeks/months before 9/11.  any earlier than that and there would've been to much of an opportunity for someone working there to discover what was going on and blow the whole operation.


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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2010, 03:31:08 PM »
I recall hearing that. Not to mention on Venturas show they conclusively proved the thermite could have been PAINTED on.

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2010, 04:06:17 PM »
Gimme a break, even the new one is being built by the LOWEST BIDDER

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=4623269


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2. World Trade Center poorly built, prof says - Inside Bay Area

      "BERKELEY ó The civil-engineering industry s failure to admit that cost-saving design features led to the World Trade Center collapse amounts to "moral ..."
http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_6870093?source=rss\

LOL

Feb. 15, 1964
A Times article says a group has raised the question of the towers' safety in the case of an explosion or airplane crash. Richard Roth releases a statement saying that the project's structural engineering firm has done a study proving that damage from an airplane traveling 600 miles per hour would be only local and that people elsewhere in the towers would be safe.
ē Article: Text | Reproduction (pdf)

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/magazine/08wtc-timeline.html?_r=1


Well that is some heavily vetted info you are presenting there.
  
(a)  For one thing most of the links provided are bunk.

(b)  Who cares if the current contract will be going to the lowest bidder? which, btw, is a typical method for government contract acquisition.  Would you suggest they just offer to KBR's construction division?  And regardless why does this have any bearing on towers built 40 years ago.

(c)  Who is this professor and what are his/her qualifications?  I guess this isnt the brit that was an "architectural expert" who was quickly out of the gates the week after 911 spouting off about the structural foibles of the towers?

(d)  And your richest point of contention is this:  
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Feb. 15, 1964
A Times article says a group has raised the question of the towers' safety in the case of an explosion or airplane crash. Richard Roth releases a statement saying that the project's structural engineering firm has done a study proving that damage from an airplane traveling 600 miles per hour would be only local and that people elsewhere in the towers would be safe.

The towers werent built until 1970 the date of this "tidbit" is 1964, as you have noted!!  If you had used what little scrutiny you possess you may have realized this was an issue they were concerned with and which subsequently was built into the plans resulting in 2 heavily overbuilt edifices.  Why not read the last sentence you quoted above, again.  what does that mean??

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2010, 02:01:16 PM »
Im not here to prove anything to you, your speculation is as good as mine, but I have heard information from someone talking about it being build for a fraction of the price, Thats all I have to say, if you really want to know, you can look for it.

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2010, 03:46:18 PM »
Im not here to prove anything to you, your speculation is as good as mine, but I have heard information from someone talking about it being build for a fraction of the price, Thats all I have to say, if you really want to know, you can look for it.
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Im not here to prove anything to you
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your speculation is as good as mine
Here is part of the problem.  I am not speculating, I am using deductive reasoning and citing sources that are relevant to the matter at  hand.  The funny thing is not only are your sources weak they do not support your position as i noted above.
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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2010, 06:09:49 PM »
thermite paint weeks before by the European Boy Band group???

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Re: WTC built with demolition in mind?
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