Australian Senate discussing 'Carbon pollution reduction scheme' now!

[mr anderson]

http://webcast.aph.gov.au/livebroadcasting/

Or enter

http://webcast.aph.gov.au/livebroadcasting/asx1/hms2v_100K.asx into VLC player

[mr anderson]

What your seeing now is what I can only assume as filibustering 

[James]

Damn I can't get that link to play video.

[mr anderson]

Damn I can't get that link to play video.

Try Internet Explorer, Firefox won't work for me 

[James]

I don't have internet explorer  

Doesn't matter I just opened

http://webcast.aph.gov.au/livebroadcasting/asx1/hms2v_100K.asx

in vlc

[Xill]

What a farce, this is totally surreal!!!

How can we have any chance considering those people are so far off reality that they are writing hundreds of pages of regulations, basing themselves on a false science?

I mean governement all over the world are creating complex frameworks of bureaucracy to deal with carbon emissions, and it's all based on a freaking lie!!!

[2010]

That guy behind Penny Wong is so trying to sleep.

[mr anderson]

"Lower carbon economy"

Such bullshit.

[James]

LOL borrow money from China to give to China are they nuts?

[James]

Get in there Nats give it to em. 

[infections]

f**k this is making me angry

[James]

I like the part where wong said she didn't care about polls just doing the right thing. If they don't care about polls lets take it to one right now.

I really wish they would just take it to an election right now. It's very easy to see who is actually acting in our interests and who isn't.

[Brocke]

Rudd arrives at White House

Agence France-Presse
December 01, 2009 04:45am

PRIME Minister Kevin Rudd has arrived at the White House for talks with US President Barack Obama expected to focus on Afghanistan and climate change.

White House officials say Mr Obama will brief  Mr Rudd on the new US strategy for Afghanistan that he is due to announce publicly in a prime-time address on Tuesday from the prestigious West Point  military academy in New York state.

Mr Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters the president had ordered the new strategy implemented on Sunday and began informing the leaders of several countries, including Britain, France and Russia, of his plan.

Australia has about 1,550 troops in Afghanistan, making it the ninth biggest contributor of forces to the conflict there.

Mr Rudd has ruled out sending additional Australian forces to Afghanistan, but during a recent visit to the country gave assurances his troops were in for the long haul.

Mr Obama is expected to announce today that the United States will add about 30,000 more US soldiers to the 68,000-strong US contingent in Afghanistan.

The US and Australian leaders are also expected to discuss climate change ahead of key United Nations climate talks that begin in Copenhagen next week.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26424369-23109,00.html

[kushfiend]

I almost wish climate change WAS real, so a giant flood could wipe out all these corrupt assholes!

[mr anderson]

Senate is currently sitting with the Coalition Senators & MPs under the leadership of Tony Abbot MP, Malcolm Turnbull MP was defeated in a second leadership challenge within a week.

There was a secret ballet with the Coalition to determine the new policy of emissions trading and it was determined that if it cannot be deferred to a Senate committee (Next February) for further scrutiny then it shall be voted down. (If indeed they have the numbers).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/01/2758345.htm?section=justin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/humbled-tony-abbott-to-oppose-labors-120bn-ets-tax/story-e6frgczf-1225805669106

[James]

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/477426

So that's how things are going at the moment.

If this ends up going to an election over ETS this will make things much easier. We can just force the issue to get injected into their ad campaigns. If they don't just come out swinging with Lord Monckton and climategate.

The stimulus, the debt. There are so many things they can use.