THE FREEDOM PARTY

[FredT01]

The only way how to fight an international enemy like this is to offer an equally international, but better, freedom oriented, solution. In essence, we have to out-globalize the globalists to win.

I think that we have all semi missed the point here .

What would be the purpose in forming a Globalist Freedom Party ?

Just this :::

We are dis-satisfied with the current bent ; or motives of the ruling Global Party .

The nature of the conflict is this ::

Each organization goes through the same struggles :: call it good v. evil ; light v. dark ; or call it whatever you will ......

The point being , is that the organization ; the political party ; or , in fact , the individual seeks to reach a balance point between these two forces ( good / evil ; light / dark etc ... )

And this is point of any organization ; and , to be more specific ; the point of the Freedom Party - - - is to balance out what we see as the abuses of the current Globalist Party .

Nothing more than politics on a larger scale 

[FredT01]

In very fact ; ( I noticed that earlier in this thread , people were discussing various names that the Party could be called ) .......

It would be my suggestion that it be called " The Global Freedom Party " ; or - " The Globalist Freedom Party " ....

.... because this would clue people in that there is a Global conflict going on ; which a lot of people are not even aware of -

But ; eh ; I'll settle for the Freedom Party too 

[Freeski]

Are we going to FORCE our idea of gov't on all nations around the world? The idea is ridiculous. The very foundation of freedom is the right to be left the hell alone and the belief in our fellow man to leave them to govern themselves!

If other nations want freedom, let them learn from our example and rise up to take what is rightfully theirs. It is not our right nor our duty to impose our way of life on others.

To this end, I propose we go in the opposite direction - decentralized gov't. I'm talking about state rights superceding the federal gov't, city rights superceding state gov't, and community rights superceding all else.

This is my offering to this discussion. Who can better govern a territory- those who live in the direct area, or those who live miles, states, nations, oceans away?

I'm for a decentralized Whig/Freedom Party. Call it what you will, but let's get started!!

Very well said! The only thing I would add is that once we get back to "local government", that we cut 80% of the services that that government is involved with and relearn self-governance. The alternative, as we have today, is establishment conditioning. Lead by example.

[FredT01]

Are we going to FORCE our idea of gov't on all nations around the world? The idea is ridiculous. The very foundation of freedom is the right to be left the hell alone and the belief in our fellow man to leave them to govern themselves!

If other nations want freedom, let them learn from our example and rise up to take what is rightfully theirs. It is not our right nor our duty to impose our way of life on others.

To this end, I propose we go in the opposite direction - decentralized gov't. I'm talking about state rights superceding the federal gov't, city rights superceding state gov't, and community rights superceding all else.

This is my offering to this discussion. Who can better govern a territory- those who live in the direct area, or those who live miles, states, nations, oceans away?

I'm for a decentralized Whig/Freedom Party. Call it what you will, but let's get started!!

Let me comment on this also ....

De-centralized is good idea ... but it was tried , and rejected by the U.S. Government in the Civil War ( you know , - " States Rights " ::  The South etc .... ) and was replaced by the huge , burgeoning Federalist Government of Washington D.C. 

and the reason why the U.S. can't " lead by example " is that the U.S. is not really a free Society ... it has the " illusion " of freedom ... but there are many checks and balances .

Of course , we do not want our idea of freedom to be dis-organization , sickness , and chaos ....  this is what Barack is exploiting right now with his " health plan " ....  ( of course , with all the damage that has already been done ; some form of heath coverage and healing is in order - I don't know if Barack's is exactly the right one , though  -

[Freeski]

and the reason why the U.S. can't " lead by example " is that the U.S. is not really a free Society ... it has the " illusion " of freedom ... but there are many checks and balances .

We know that it's not free, now. But the original intent of the American Declaration of Independence and the resulting Constitution & Bill of Rights is the greatest beacon of freedom planet Earth has ever known.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

Name one country that's ever come so close.

[jeremystalked1]

Dismantle the informant networks, the covert army of the State.  Informant networks, especially police informants, are subverting the Constitution.

[Freeski]

Dismantle the informant networks, the covert army of the State.  Informant networks, especially police informants, are subverting the Constitution.

Strike the root! Cut government programs, everywhere. Every single government program is a breeding ground of corruption. Do we really need the government to regulate cyclist helmet use? Are we that pussified?

[jeremystalked1]

Strike the root! Cut government programs, everywhere. Every single government program is a breeding ground of corruption.

Not disagreeing, but I don't think we're going to completely eliminate governance.  In the absence of any kind of government, people will freely associate (they can do that right?) and form their own governmental organizations.  So government is here to stay.

Citizens just have to be aware of the corruption and they have to be aware, in particular, of how democratic processes are subverted using informant networks.

[Michal Ptacnik]

The NWO exists because in this day and age we NEED, to quote George H.W. Bush, "a system where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle," rules the day.

If we go against the idea of a global system as such, we either fail, swept away by a genuine, popular paradigm shift that our incompetence will then allow to be co-opted by ne'erdowells, or we miraculously win, suppress the shift and sooner or later end up with a global thermonuclear war or some other bad fruit of the rotten tree that is the call for unlimited sovereignity; we would, in essence, have to go through the entire pain of the twentieth century all over again.

Eliminating governance is an illusion, too. People want to live normal, good lives (or just very strongly think they do, the result's the same), and governed civilization provides for those; few above 30 years and with families will sympathyse with an anarchist.

What would be possible is to removed the ossified old structure and use the shift in society to generate a better, more democratic and yet more moral and stable society that will generate virtue, not greed, in people. I believe this is possible, if taken globally and seriously, and is not co-opted by particular interests. However, I doubt now that we'll find the will to accomplish it.

I am ready to take up the fight. Are you?

[EvadingGrid]

As to Govt...

What is needed is some open ended statements of principle that will suit the locals. We have to bear in mind that some cultures want very different styles of rule. Some will want to return ultimate power to the tribal elders, or the religous authorities, others want to restore there constitution. - What they all have in common is that do not want a Global Govt of Elites and they do want to Local Govt.

The principle I would suggest is to "Reverse the pyramid, placing soverigntity and power with the Locals"

We must understand that the concept of Freedom is International, but what locals around the world want to replace Elite Global Govt with could be anything, some want Monarchy, Tribal Elders, Sharia Law, and other things that might be alien to the english speaking american who wants a Republic.

Lets be big . . .
Lets not impose our ideas and culture upon the different peoples around the world.
Lets us give the power back to the people so they can have a system that they want to live under.

[FredT01]

As to Govt...

What is needed is some open ended statements of principle that will suit the locals. We have to bear in mind that some cultures want very different styles of rule. Some will want to return ultimate power to the tribal elders, or the religous authorities, others want to restore there constitution. - What they all have in common is that do not want a Global Govt of Elites and they do want to Local Govt.

The principle I would suggest is to "Reverse the pyramid, placing soverigntity and power with the Locals"

We must understand that the concept of Freedom is International, but what locals around the world want to replace Elite Global Govt with could be anything, some want Monarchy, Tribal Elders, Sharia Law, and other things that might be alien to the english speaking american who wants a Republic.

Lets be big . . .
Lets not impose our ideas and culture upon the different peoples around the world.
Lets us give the power back to the people so they can have a system that they want to live under.

well stated ...

My opinion on the basis of Government is this ::

Is that there is / or was an " Un-seen hand " or ' Understood rule ' of Governance amongst the Ancients ....

There was a ruler / Monarchy - - - and there were jobs / a place for everyone .

The problem with this system came in when there some people felt that there was InEquality within the system , and they had the right to have " more " .... or , move up to a higher station .

Thus , we have today's system , where Everyone is shouting about their " Rights " ... they are as good as the Next person blah blah blah ... " All Men are Created Equal " etc etc ............


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well , I will tell you the truth - - - I think that we have discussed the " philosophy " of this quite thoroughly , and it's time to take a vote to see who actually wants to get involved etc ....

Signify your willingness to get involved by saying " Aye " in this thread .... and then state a little blurb about your Specialty Skill , or Skills ...

OK !  Ready ! Steady !  ....  Go !!!!!!!!!!

 

[Freeski]

Not disagreeing, but I don't think we're going to completely eliminate governance.  In the absence of any kind of government, people will freely associate (they can do that right?) and form their own governmental organizations.  So government is here to stay.

Citizens just have to be aware of the corruption and they have to be aware, in particular, of how democratic processes are subverted using informant networks.

Sorry, by "cut" I didn't mean eliminate all government - but ALL programs and services can and need to be trimmed at minimum and, yes, some/lots need to be outright eliminated. Point being that governments at all levels just do too much. Government is the root of the problem because we've been manipulated into being dependent on it.

[FredT01]

Ok -

There have been developments in the ' Freedom Party ' -

I have ( tentatively , and roughly ) drawn up a Charter for it -

The reason for a Charter is , that this is used to apply for a new Political party in most States in the U.S. -

of course , if one does wish to use it for those purposes , you can change it however you wish to suit your purposes .

It can also be used as a " Guide " if one wishes to merely form a Political P.A.C. ( ploitical Action Commitee ) - which is used to endorse Candidates ( from any Party ) ; influence legislation ... etc ....

I have already received some feedback on this , which I shall detail at the end ::

Following is the Charter -


Start :

__________________________


Why the Global Freedom Party ?

Politics in this day and Age takes place on a Global scale.

We now have a Political Party in power that seeks to use the Earth as ..

........it's tool for Global enslavement to feed it's greed .......,

and to step on the rights of the Citizens of these Sovereign Nations

while doing so.


Thusly , the Global Freedom Party shall satnd as a Counter - Balance to

such destructive tendencies - - - for everything in Natures seeks to strike

such a Balance. We intend to introduce the concept of Life into a Society

based on Death.


We shall acheive this Balance based on the Freedom of Man.

And the Freedom of which we speak is expressed so eloquently by Franklin D.

Roosevelt , in his State of the Union address to the U.S. Congress on

January 6 , 1941 .

His hope for a better world was based on Four Essential Freedoms -


1 ) Freedom of Speech and Expression.

2 ) Freedom of Religion.

3 ) Freedom from want.

4 ) Freedom from Fear.


FDR translated the last 2 freedoms in these terms -

> Freedom from want : Economic Understandings which will secure to

  every  nation a healthy , peacetime life for it's inhabitants

  - everywhere in the world.


> Freedom from Fear : means a world - wide reduction of armaments to

  such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a

  position to commit an act of physicalm aggression against any neighbor -

  anywhere in the world.


Alas , FDR did not live to see his ideals on the assumption of the

Common Dignity of Man put into place.


To bring things up to date , We now find ourselves in a situation where these

freedoms , which are also included in the Preamble of United Nations Declaration of

Human Rights , are largely ignored .


What we are lacking in this Day and Age of Electronic Surveillance and Technological

Wizardry is a basic understanding of the Individuals' rightn to peace and quiet ,

privacy , and the freedom to pursue their own destiny based upon their own abilities.

And , when needed , to reach out and find a friendly , neyghborly hand

willing to help.


This is what the Global Freedom Party will attempt to do.

To be non - intrusive , but , to be there when needed - in whatever capacity we are

able to help.


As mentioned before , we will be a Counter - balance to the prevailing forces of greed

and domination whom take at the expense of the dignity of man .


We believe that by restoring the Dignity of Man , we shall experience another Renaissance

of human creativity and of the human Spirit that has not yet been experienced in history.

All we must do , as a Government entity , is to get out of the way.


' Freedom of Man ' has been espoused many times before .....

But now we see new forms of enslavement : using technology to spread disease -

and the attempt to profit from the spread of these diseasesby putting in a bogus

" health system " in place.


The Global Freedom Party will try to halt this cycle by putting the following safeguards

in place ::


We believe in modern technology , and the Worker's right to Work - - But ; to work in safe

conditions , that , also , do not despoil the Community that the Company resides in .


We will aggresively pursue the latest means and technology for the storage and disposal of both

Nuclear and Industrial waste .We believe in following the Pollution Prevention Act of 1990 to the

letter - - in addition to engaging in practices that eliminate the initial generation of waste ; such as :


1 ) Exploring the , as of yet , untapped field of Free Energy , as Energy Generation is the # 1 Source

    of Industrial pollution.

2 ) Energy derived from the Sea aqnd the Sun.

3 ) Using the latest techniques in treating Industrial waste products at their source ( netralizing additives , etc. )


We believe that the United States is a Soveriegn Nation , and NOT part of a Global Governance Cabal ... as typified by the

European Union , and the coming American , Asian , and African Unions -


This based on the concept that Government is best done at local level - - and the larger it becomes , the more entities that

it encompasses , the more abuse of power enters the picture .


Once again , simple respect for human beings and their competency is what is needed to neutralize large government ....because

huge Government growth is based , in part , on the theory that the individual is incapable of caring for themselves , and therefore

Big Government must step in as " The Fanmily " ; or " The Big Daddy " to do the care taking job . Thus , we have seen not only erosion

of individual kliberties , but ... the erosion of the Family unit as well .


The reasoning for opposing Global Governance is ::

It places the Sovereign Nation as an Economic Entity to be exploited at the whim of the Global Governing Banking Elite.

This exploitation l;eads to a " dumbing down " of the Native population for Control purposes ... i.e. : " Education " is used

more for Control than for actual discovery and learning.


If the integrity of the Sovereign State is maintained , we believe it will foster a renewed Spirit of , not only Scientific

Research , but also of Cultural and Spiritual renewal.


In other words , we believe that the present agenda of the Global Governance Cabal is retarding , slowing , or , in fact , stopping

the forward progress of mankind in order to hijack it for their own greed and power agenda .


In maintaining the Integrity of the Sovereign State , we intend to -

1 ) Promote the spirit of competition amongst Nations , because we believe that this is the surest way to expand the horizon of human

consciousness .


2 ) Further the Peace process by bringing to the Forefront FDR's dream of     World Peace by promoting arms reduction ... instead of runaway
arms and Nuclear proliferation.


3 ) The Integration of  technologies into our life , and living environments . I / We are not advocating a policy of extreme   environmentalism - - where technologies such as Nuclear , coal , and various manufacturing techniques are barred from our Society ...

... but , rather a policy bv where they are blended into our Society in an Environmentally safe manner ; using methods such as ::

    Strict adherence to Community noise standards , strict containment and treatment of industrial and nuclear waste products ;

 and , most importantly , a recognition that a business , large or small , is PART of the Community that it resides in , and is not placed

 there to be in opposition to it .


We believe that this policy will be instrumental in creating and maintaining new jobs for Americans -

This , along with the freeing of the Creativity of our Citizens by removing the Yoke of Global Governance from their backs .


In conclusion , I'd like to say that the Party is open to all Races ; with the Understanding that " race " , and " racism " is just another

device to bring about Division ; - with the ultimate goal of that being to divide and conquer .


Wec must come to the recognition that we are all one , on this fragile ; yet beautiful Planet spinning in Space.


What we are proposing is a new way of looking at Government , which pre- supposes an idea of individual responsibility and liberty ;

Looking at the individual as resopsible , free and capable of making decisions , taking care of themselves ; choosing their own methods

of Education ....

Withe Government stepping in only in the worst case scenarios / situations .

An individual who is free , and yet , also part of his / her community .

A community that the individual helps to sustain and grow .

We believe that individual freedom is the best of all possible scenarios .



Thank you

and peace

from The Global freedom party 


__________________

Finish ::


Now , the Feedback that I received thus far ids this :::

A ) not mention ' Free Energy ' - this is too controversial

> My reasons for leaving the mention of ' Free Energy ' in would be these -

this is a theory that was proposed by Nicholas Tesla ( A workable theory , btw ) - that was suppressed by J.P. Morgan , mainly because Mr. Morgan owned all of the Copper mines at the time , and he made a fortune using Copper wiring installed in most homes ( for electric ) .......so , in memory of Nicholas tesla etc etc .... besides that , there are some great new innovations in the field of Free Energy at present ....
B ) Emphasis the Peace process , and disarmament more .

C ) Mention the false ' left - right ' paradigm more

D ) Mention that we are not so much a Party " for something " ; but instead one that is " Against something " ( global enslavement , etc ...  ) 

> I am not so sure about this one - I am looking past the time to when Obama and Geithner have been forced from Office , and they must be replaced by something .

E ) Continue to stress " Power to the People " ; and freedom from the shackles of the upcoming tyranny .



- - -

OK

I thought that I would add that I saw this video from Lyndon LaRouche on You Tube this morning -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tSG9sgeRx4

So , Lyndon LaRouche wants to impeach Obama , and he didn't even mention ' Banker = Gate ' . He was going strictly on Obama Care ( or ' Health Care - gate ' ) , and the human rights abuses there .

So my point being is , that the Obama / Geithner cabal is falling apart quicly - - - and there must be something to replace it with .


Also , I would like to add my take on the NWO / One World Government thing .

Now , ' One World Government ' is somewhat based on the religious / spiritual principkle that " We Are all One " .

However , NWO forces have perverted this principle by saying - we are all alike ; i.e. ::: we have no individual identity ( THIS is a power trip - people that are all alike are easier to control ) .

When the truth of the matter is ; within the context of the theory of " We are all One " - there is individuality ::: much as there is in nature - all creatures in Nature do not look the same ; act the same etc ...... right ? This is the concept of many in One .

" Many in One " is the  concept that has been perverted for power purposes , and mankind has to be remindede of that from time to time -

An example would be the 1960's ::  when , in the early 60's , we had a phenomenon called " The Organiozation Man " - where everyone was expected to dress alike ; talk alike - be alike - - - so they would fit into the Organization ::: 

but - the hippy movement saw through this quickly , and in the mid to late 1960's , there was an explosion of individuality - in dress , music , speech etc .... self expression / freedom .

Of course , the hippy movement was just one of the more radical examples of this -

Let's take Hitler and the Nazi's - - - everyone had to look alike , dress alike AND think alike .... if you did not in , you were killed .

So ....

This is not a new concept ( freedom and individuality ) .... and this is my take on what is going on now - - - with the fall of Obama and his cabal ... it is not far - fetched in the least to assume that they ( the present banker / Government structure ) will collapse .


- - -

I would appreciate feedback on the Charter - before a website is put up etc ...

Thanks

Fred

 





 

 

 



 


   


 


 

[Michal Ptacnik]

Three cheers to the Charter! :-)

[Michal Ptacnik]

this is a theory that was proposed by Nicholas Tesla ( A workable theory , btw ) - that was suppressed by J.P. Morgan , mainly because Mr. Morgan owned all of the Copper mines at the time , and he made a fortune using Copper wiring installed in most homes ( for electric ) .......so , in memory of Nicholas tesla etc etc .... besides that , there are some great new innovations in the field of Free Energy at present ....
B ) Emphasis the Peace process , and disarmament more .

You might feel it is a workable theory, since we don't see it actually working in large I am inclined to disagree, but that is not important. What is important that most of the rational public disagree quite strongly with the possibility of having what is essentially a quasi-perpetual motion machine (I know, not really a PM, but that's what the opponents will call it) that basically circulmvents thermodynamics and therefore they will feel that the Freedom Party is detached from reality by condoning these things.

Ergo, we should not mention it, safe in passing or allusion. Or you know what? If we ever give out flyers, we might include Free Energy as a "look what might be possible" alternative; but let us not cause our respect for Tesla's genius to hamper our future.

Sorry for what is essentially double posting, since I'd already said something in this effect, but this I believe should be emphasized very, very strongly. When we are able to commission at least a prototype of the magnetic turbine, then it will become a strong asset for us and we can start propagating it en masse. I am all for it, by the way, it is a quick way to score a devastating victory, if it works, and we should perhaps invest some effort into it since there might come a time when something like this might be our only chance to win support. But until the idea becomes a physical, definite, and tested possibility, it is all dreams and hopes and fantasies, at least for the potential voters.

Though, as a side issue, I don't believe we will ever go to a ballot, nor should we. As I've written elsewhere, we won't win this by voting, we'll have to vote by our hands (work and cooperation), our feet (relocating to more natural environs and becoming self suficient) and our mouths (propagating the truth to the world), which things are where the true power of the people lies.

[FredT01]

well -

I would counter this by giving you the example of the EBM Machine -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY

The EBM Machine taps heretofore unseen energy in the electro magnetic field in order to give it it's perpetual motion .

And ... plus -

They are using it in Hungary ! ( Budapest ) to power businesses and parts of a small town -

Is this not close to the Czech Republic ?

Perhaps it shall be coming to you fairly soon   

You might feel it is a workable theory, since we don't see it actually working in large I am inclined to disagree, but that is not important. What is important that most of the rational public disagree quite strongly with the possibility of having what is essentially a quasi-perpetual motion machine (I know, not really a PM, but that's what the opponents will call it) that basically circulmvents thermodynamics and therefore they will feel that the Freedom Party is detached from reality by condoning these things.

Ergo, we should not mention it, safe in passing or allusion. Or you know what? If we ever give out flyers, we might include Free Energy as a "look what might be possible" alternative; but let us not cause our respect for Tesla's genius to hamper our future.

Sorry for what is essentially double posting, since I'd already said something in this effect, but this I believe should be emphasized very, very strongly. When we are able to commission at least a prototype of the magnetic turbine, then it will become a strong asset for us and we can start propagating it en masse. I am all for it, by the way, it is a quick way to score a devastating victory, if it works, and we should perhaps invest some effort into it since there might come a time when something like this might be our only chance to win support. But until the idea becomes a physical, definite, and tested possibility, it is all dreams and hopes and fantasies, at least for the potential voters.

Though, as a side issue, I don't believe we will ever go to a ballot, nor should we. As I've written elsewhere, we won't win this by voting, we'll have to vote by our hands (work and cooperation), our feet (relocating to more natural environs and becoming self suficient) and our mouths (propagating the truth to the world), which things are where the true power of the people lies.

[FredT01]

Oops !

I noticed that I had made quite a few spelling errors in the first draft ( I typed it up somewhat hastily ) .... and I have also added another paragraph :;

So here is the finished version as it stands now ::


Start :

_________________


Why the Global Freedom party ?

Politics in this day and Age takes place on a Global scale.

We now have a Political Party in power that seeks to use the Earth as ..

........it's tool for Global enslavement to feed it's greed .......,

and to step on the rights of the Citizens of these Sovereign Nations

while doing so.


Thusly , the Global Freedom Party shall stand as a Counter - Balance to

such destructive tendencies - - - for everything in Natures seeks to strike

such a Balance. We intend to introduce the concept of Life into a Society

based on Death.


We shall acheive this Balance based on the Freedom of Man.

And the Freedom of which we speak is expressed so eloquently by Franklin D.

Roosevelt , in his State of the Union address to the U.S. Congress on

January 6 , 1941 .

His hope for a better world was based on Four Essential Freedoms -


1 ) Freedom of Speech and Expression.

2 ) Freedom of Religion.

3 ) Freedom from want.

4 ) Freedom from Fear.


FDR translated the last 2 freedoms in these terms -

> Freedom from want : Economic Understandings which will secure to

  every  nation a healthy , peacetime life for it's inhabitants

  - everywhere in the world.


> Freedom from Fear : means a world - wide reduction of armaments to

  such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a

  position to commit an act of physicalm aggression against any neighbor -

  anywhere in the world.


Alas , FDR did not live to see his ideals on the assumption of the

Common Dignity of Man put into place.


To bring things up to date , We now find ourselves in a situation where these

freedoms , which are also included in the Preamble of United Nations Declaration of

Human Rights , are largely ignored .


What we are lacking in this Day and Age of Electronic Surveillance and Technological

Wizardry is a basic understanding of the Individuals' right to peace and quiet ,

privacy , and the freedom to pursue their own destiny based upon their own abilities.

And , when needed , to reach out and find a friendly , neighborly hand

willing to help.


This is what the Global Freedom Party will attempt to do.

To be non - intrusive , but , to be there when needed - in whatever capacity we are

able to help.


As mentioned before , we will be a Counter - balance to the prevailing forces of greed

and domination whom take at the expense of the dignity of man .


We believe that by restoring the Dignity of Man , we shall experience another Renaissance

of human creativity and of the human Spirit that has not yet been experienced in history.

All we must do , as a Government entity , is to get out of the way.


' Freedom of Man ' has been espoused many times before .....

But now we see new forms of enslavement : using technology to spread disease -

and the attempt to profit from the spread of these diseases by putting in a bogus

" health system " in place.


The Global Freedom Party will try to halt this cycle by putting the following safeguards

in place ::


We believe in modern technology , and the Worker's right to Work - - But ; to work in safe

conditions , that , also , do not despoil the Community that the Company resides in .


We will aggresively pursue the latest means and technology for the storage and disposal of both

Nuclear and Industrial waste .We believe in following the Pollution Prevention Act of 1990 to the

letter - - in addition to engaging in practices that eliminate the initial generation of waste ; such as :


1 ) Exploring the , as of yet , untapped field of Free Energy , as Energy Generation is the # 1 Source

    of Industrial pollution.

2 ) Energy derived from the Sea and the Sun.

3 ) Using the latest techniques in treating Industrial waste products at their source ( netralizing additives , etc. )


We believe that the United States is a Soveriegn Nation , and NOT part of a Global Governance Cabal ... as typified by the

European Union , and the coming American , Asian , and African Unions -


This based on the concept that Government is best done at local level - - and the larger it becomes , the more entities that

it encompasses , the more abuse of power enters the picture .


Once again , simple respect for human beings and their competency is what is needed to neutralize large government ....because

huge Government growth is based , in part , on the theory that the individual is incapable of caring for themselves , and therefore

Big Government must step in as " The Fanmily " ; or " The Big Daddy " to do the care taking job . Thus , we have seen not only erosion

of individual liberties , but ... the erosion of the Family unit as well .


The reasoning for opposing Global Governance is ::

It places the Sovereign Nation as an Economic Entity to be exploited at the whim of the Global Governing Banking Elite.

This exploitation leads to a " dumbing down " of the Native population for Control purposes ... i.e. : " Education " is used

more for Control than for actual discovery and learning.


If the integrity of the Sovereign State is maintained , we believe it will foster a renewed Spirit of , not only Scientific

Research , but also of Cultural and Spiritual renewal.


In other words , we believe that the present agenda of the Global Governance Cabal is retarding , slowing , or , in fact , stopping

the forward progress of mankind in order to hijack it for their own greed and power agenda .


In maintaining the Integrity of the Sovereign State , we intend to -

1 ) Promote the spirit of competition amongst Nations , because we believe that this is the surest way to expand the horizon of human

    consciousness .


2 ) Further the Peace process by bringing to the Forefront FDR's dream of World Peace by promoting arms reduction ... instead of runaway

    arms and Nuclear proliferation.


3 ) The Integration of  technologies into our life , and living environments . I / We are not advocating a policy of extreme

    environmentalism - - where technologies such as Nuclear , coal , and various manufacturing techniques are barred from our Society ...

    ... but , rather a policybv where they are blended into our Society in an Environmentally safe manner ; using methods such as ::

    Strict adherence to Community noise standards , strict containment and treatment of industrial and nuclear waste products ;

    and , most importantly , a recognition that a business , large or small , is PART of the Community that it resides in , and is not placed

    there to be in opposition to it .


We believe that this policy will be instrumental in creating and maintaining new jobs for Americans -

This , along with the freeing of the Creativity of our Citizens by removing the Yoke of Global Governance from their backs .


In conclusion , I'd like to say that the Party is open to all Races ; with the Understanding that " race " , and " racism " is just another

device to bring about Division ; - with the ultimate goal of that being to divide and conquer .


We must come to the recognition that we are all one , on this fragile ; yet beautiful Planet spinning in Space.


Now , ' One World Government ' is somewhat based on the religious / spiritual principle that " We Are all One " .

However , NWO forces have perverted this principle by saying - we are all alike ; i.e. ::: we have no individual identity

( THIS is a power trip - people that are all alike are easier to control ) .

When the truth of the matter is ; within the context of the theory of " We are all One " - there is individuality :

much as there is in nature - all creatures in Nature do not look the same ; act the same etc ...... right ? This is the concept of many in One .


" Many in One " is the  concept that has been perverted for power purposes , and mankind has to be remindede of that from time to time -

An example would be the 1960's ::  when , in the early 60's , we had a phenomenon called " The Organiozation Man " - where everyone was

expected to dress alike ; talk alike - be alike - - - so they would fit into the Organization :

but - the hippy movement saw through this quickly , and in the mid to late 1960's , there was an explosion of individuality - in dress , music , speech etc .... self expression / freedom .

Of course , the hippy movement was just one of the more radical examples of this -

Let's take Hitler and the Nazi's - - - everyone had to look alike , dress alike AND think alike .... if you did not in , you were killed .

So ....

This is not a new concept ( freedom and individuality ) .... and this is my take on what is going on now - - - with the fall of Obama and his cabal ... it is not far - fetched in the least

to assume that they ( the present banker / Government structure ) will collapse .


The point that I am trying to make with the above blurb ( ' many in One ' ) is , that these things are Cyclical , not as unlike the swinging of a pendulum .

There is oppression ; which is the phase we find ourselves in at present . Then human freedom and dignity begins to re-assert itself , and we see a spark of human creativity

and growth - - it is as if it were an unstoppable process : although dark forces always attempt to suppress this growth - it is always there . we just find ourselves in a time when it is particlarly

easy to oppress us due to the many technological advances .


There is absolutely no reason , however , to assume that human rights and dignity will not reassert themselves . They always do . What is needed is a Spark.


What we are proposing is a new way of looking at Government , which pre- supposes an idea of individual responsibility and liberty ;

Looking at the individual as resonsible , free and capable of making decisions , taking care of themselves ; choosing their own methods

of Education ....

With Government stepping in only in the worst case scenarios / situations .

An individual who is free , and yet , also part of his / her community .

A community that the individual helps to sustain and grow .

We believe that individual freedom is the best of all possible scenarios .



Thank you

and peace

from The Global Freedom Party 


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[Volitzar]

Constitution Party National Platform

 Preamble
Sanctity of Life
Bring Government Back Home
Character and Moral Conduct
Congressional Reform
Conscription
Constitutional Convention
Copyrights and Patents
Cost of Big Government
Crime
Defense
Domestic Federal Aid
Drug Abuse
Education
Election Reform
Electoral College
Energy
Environment
Executive Orders
Family             Foreign Policy
Gambling
Government/ Private Partnership
Gun Control
Health Care and Government
Immigration
The Judiciary
Money and Banking
Personal and Private Property Security
Pornography
Religious Freedom
Social Security
Statehood
State Sovereignty
Tariffs and Trade
Taxes
Terrorism and Personal Liberty
Veterans
Wage and Price Control
Welfare

http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php

[FredT01]

I checked the Constitutional Party website , and it looks pretty good ; But ....

there is only one guy from the State of Florida who is running for office in 2010 - and he's running for State Senator .

Who is the Constitutional Party's Candidate for President in 2012 ?

Like I mentioned above , the Global Freedom Party would be happy to support a Constitutioal Party Candidate ; as long as he was in line with our beliefs - - -

As we might also support a Republican like Ron Paul ; or a Democrat like Dennis Kucinich .

Constitution Party National Platform

 Preamble
Sanctity of Life
Bring Government Back Home
Character and Moral Conduct
Congressional Reform
Conscription
Constitutional Convention
Copyrights and Patents
Cost of Big Government
Crime
Defense
Domestic Federal Aid
Drug Abuse
Education
Election Reform
Electoral College
Energy
Environment
Executive Orders
Family             Foreign Policy
Gambling
Government/ Private Partnership
Gun Control
Health Care and Government
Immigration
The Judiciary
Money and Banking
Personal and Private Property Security
Pornography
Religious Freedom
Social Security
Statehood
State Sovereignty
Tariffs and Trade
Taxes
Terrorism and Personal Liberty
Veterans
Wage and Price Control
Welfare

http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php

[FredT01]

OK -

Here is the word from Lord Monckton on this .

I sent him a copy of the Charter , and he said -

That it looks good , but it is somewhat too wordy ( long ) .....

He added " The Gettysburg Address was only 300 words long " ....

Soooo

I guess the thing to do here is to go through it , again , and concise it WAY down ........

[Volitzar]

I checked the Constitutional Party website , and it looks pretty good ; But ....

there is only one guy from the State of Florida who is running for office in 2010 - and he's running for State Senator .

Who is the Constitutional Party's Candidate for President in 2012 ?

Like I mentioned above , the Global Freedom Party would be happy to support a Constitutioal Party Candidate ; as long as he was in line with our beliefs - - -

As we might also support a Republican like Ron Paul ; or a Democrat like Dennis Kucinich .

As of now the CP has no candidate for President in 2012, we will support Ron Paul in 2012 when he runs. 

Having Ron and Rand Paul running on Republican, Libertarian and Constitution party tickets would be a good thing.

I support Ron Paul but I don't see the Bilder-Republicans supporting him in 2012.

[FredT01]

Ah !

Is Chuck Baldwin still a viable Candidate for the Constitution Party ?

I know that Alan Keyes has been mentioned , but He chose to run as an Independent in 2008.

The thing about Ron Paul , is that He is great Candidate .... but the Age thing " may " become somewhat of an issue ......  He is 74 now  , and will be 787 - 78 in 2012 .......

This is the same issue with Ralph Nader ... He was 74 in 2008 , will be 78 in 2012 ... and although He ids still very active - - - in issues such as Single Payer Healthcare - - - I don't know if He will be willing to run again in 2012 .

Not that I am saying that they ( Paul and Nader ) will not run .....  but - I wouldn't want to put pressure on them to do so .


My " best case scenario " would be for Barack Obama to dig himself suchb a deep hole , that He either loses all credibility ; or - Impeachment proceedings are initiated against him -

In that case , I would support Dennis Kucinich if he ran as a Democrat .

Now - that is not to say that there will not be someone young who comes along , and takes the Scene by Storm - - -

There are young candidates out there -

Check out these three running on the Democratic ticket - - - under the aegis of the LaRouche Youth group -   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyqvdfWU2L4

... running against Nancy Pelosi , Barney Frank and one for a  Seat in the House of Representaioves from Texas .

Ah , Youth !

As of now the CP has no candidate for President in 2012, we will support Ron Paul in 2012 when he runs. 

Having Ron and Rand Paul running on Republican, Libertarian and Constitution party tickets would be a good thing.

I support Ron Paul but I don't see the Bilder-Republicans supporting him in 2012.

[Volitzar]

How about Rand Paul for President in 2012 ??

[FredT01]

That's possible -

He's running for the U.S. Senate from Kentucky , I believe .

How about Rand Paul for President in 2012 ??

[FredT01]

OK -

I did the re - write on the Charter ; and it now reads as follows ::

Start :

______________-

Why the Global Freedom Party ?

Politics in this day and Age takes place on a Global scale.
We now have a Political Party in power that seeks to use the Earth as ..
it's tool for Global enslavement to feed it's greed .......,
and to step on the rights of the Citizens of these Sovereign Nations
while doing so.

Thusly , the Global Freedom Party shall stand as a Counter - Balance to
such destructive tendencies - - - for everything in Nature seeks to strike
such a Balance. We intend to introduce the concept of Life into a Society
based on Death.

We shall acheive this Balance based on the Freedom of Man.
And the Freedom of which we speak is expressed so eloquently by
Franklin D. Roosevelt , in his State of the Union address to the U.S. Congress on January 6 , 1941 . His hope for a better world was based on Four Essential Freedoms -

1 ) Freedom of Speech and Expression.
2 ) Freedom of Religion.
3 ) Freedom from want.
4 ) Freedom from Fear.


To bring things up to date , We now find ourselves in a situation where
these freedoms , which are also included in the Preamble of United
Nations Declaration of Human Rights , are largely ignored .

What the Global Freedom Party will attempt to do.

To be non - intrusive , but , to be there when needed - in whatever
capacity we are able to help.

As mentioned before , we will be a Counter - balance to the prevailing
forces of greed and domination whom take at the expense of the dignity of man .

We believe that the United States is a Soveriegn Nation , and NOT part of a Global Governance Cabal ... as typified by the
European Union , and the coming American , Asian , and African Unions -

This based on the concept that Government is best done at local level - - and the larger it becomes , the more entities that it encompasses ,
the more abuse of power enters the picture .


If the integrity of the Sovereign State is maintained , we believe it will oster a renewed Spirit of , not only Scientific Research ,
but also of Cultural and Spiritual renewal.

In other words , we believe that the present agenda of the Global Governance Cabal is retarding , slowing , or , in fact , stopping
the forward progress of mankind in order to hijack it for their own greed and power agenda .


We believe that our policies will be instrumental in creating and maintaining new jobs for Americans -
This , along with the freeing of the Creativity of our Citizens by removing the Yoke of Global Governance from their backs .

In conclusion , I'd like to say that the Party is open to all Races ; with the Understanding that " race " , and " racism " is just another
device to bring about Division ; - with the ultimate goal of that being to divide and conquer .

We must come to the recognition that we are all one , on this fragile ; yet beautiful Planet spinning in Space.

Now , ' One World Government ' is somewhat based on the religious / spiritual principle that " We Are all One " .

However , forces have perverted this principle by saying - we are all alike ; i.e. ::: we have no individual identity
( THIS is a power trip - people that are all alike are easier to control ) .
When the truth of the matter is ; within the context of the theory of " We are all One " - there is individuality :
much as there is in nature - all creatures in Nature do not look the same ; act the same etc ...... right ? This is the concept of many in One .

This is not a new concept ( freedom and individuality ) .

And the point that I am trying to make with the above  ( ' many in One ' ) is , that these things are Cyclical , not as unlike the swinging of a pendulum .
There is oppression ; which is the phase we find ourselves in at present .
Then human freedom and dignity begins to re-assert itself , and we see a spark of human creativity
it is as if it were an unstoppable process : although dark forces always attempt to suppress this growth - it is always there . we just find ourselves in a time when it is particularly easy to oppress us due to
the many technological advances .


There is absolutely no reason , however , to assume that human rights and dignity will not reassert themselves . They always do . What is needed is a Spark.

What we are proposing is a new way of looking at Government , which pre- supposes an idea of individual responsibility and liberty ;
Looking at the individual as responsible , free and capable of making decisions , taking care of themselves ; choosing their own methods
of Education ....
With Government stepping in only in the worst case scenarios / situations .
An individual who is free , and yet , also part of his / her community .
A community that the individual helps to sustain and grow .
We believe that individual freedom is the best of all possible scenarios .


Thank you

and peace

from The Global Freedom Party

__________________

Finish


I'll expand on some of the other points elsewhere on the website -

( btw - the website is coming along ; it should be up shortly ; I just received permission to use some outstanding pictures on it ) ....

I have been toying with the idea of forming a ' Citizens Oversight Committee " ; or " Citizens Advisory Committe " on Government - -

... composed , of say , 9 people - - - who would step into certain situations , and give our opinion on certain issues - - - since , at present , Government is largely ignoring the needs and opinions of our Citizens .

Are there any opinions on this ?

[FredT01]

Here is an interesting Election coming up -

Martha Oakley ( D) v. Scott Brown ( R ) for the Senate Seat vacated by Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy's death last year ...

Interesting in that one would expect a Democrat in Massachusetts to win a landslide victory , right ?

umm .... not so -

Oakley was up by 35 % approximately 2 months ago ; but now Brown has closed the gap - - - and some of the latest Polls actually show him leading by 4 % - - -

Here is the latest Rasmussen Poll that shows Oakley up by 49 - 47 %

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/massachusetts/election_2010_massachusetts_special_senate_election


While the Suffolk University Poll has Brown up by 4 % -

http://www1.whdh.com/features/articles/hiller/BO133471/


Here is Brown's little Vid , emphasizing the importance of this race -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nEoW-P81-0


.... and , in actuality , it is a fairly important race , as it is a referendum on the Obama agenda - - his healthcare policy etc .......

I mean , if the Dems lose in Massachusetts - - - * ouch *

This Special election is slated for Tuesday , January 19 2010 - -

So , I'll be watching this one , just to see how it goes down in Mass.

[Mike Philbin]

the more I think about this, the less I like the idea of ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

I think people have to UNDERSTAND where they are, in the solar system, on this FREE PLANET.

local government = factionism in the end and wars will start again.

PLANETARY NON GOVERNMENT with a non-religious understanding of our relationship to it as an energy-source and life-source that'll support NON PROFIT will allow real creativity to flourish and ban BOTTOM LINE blinkerism.

gah, I'm gonna keep banging on at this, it's a lovely idea. Imagine there's no Lennon, oh yeah he was shot dead by a possible patsy, it isn't hard to 9-11.

[Michal Ptacnik]

Without any government at all there would not be a system, the web which civilization has built around us, binding us, but also giving us tremendous amounts of "social energy," so that we can devote ourselves to other, more lofty pursuits than basic survival.

The best government is the government which just about allows for this, but leaves the rest of everything alone. In this respect, the current system is horribly wrong: It spends on useless, disposable things (like banker bailouts) all the while it should be doing much more common sense projects like eliminating any and all poverty, as poverty is obviously an unconstitutional state (since paupers are not functionally citizens, but subjects; think about it!).

If you keep government on the lines of natural tribes, which I believe to be the Familly, the Social Web and the Whole of Mankind, you will pretty much create the "least factionalism possible" scenario. Natural tribes don't tend to fight other natural tribes unless they are provoked by scarcity or by outside influences. A "permanent growth" economy will eliminate scarcity and there will be few harmful outside influences if we do in the media-propaganda complex. The leftover issues will have to be dealt by the Whole of Mankind level.

[FredT01]

well - hey !

If you can convince Barack Obama to dissolve his Government , I'd be all for that ! 

then , we could just party , or something - - - these things are not called " Parties " for nothing , you know ! 

but .... until that glorious time , we have to have an organization to correct the abuse of the present Government -

the more I think about this, the less I like the idea of ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

I think people have to UNDERSTAND where they are, in the solar system, on this FREE PLANET.

local government = factionism in the end and wars will start again.

PLANETARY NON GOVERNMENT with a non-religious understanding of our relationship to it as an energy-source and life-source that'll support NON PROFIT will allow real creativity to flourish and ban BOTTOM LINE blinkerism.

gah, I'm gonna keep banging on at this, it's a lovely idea. Imagine there's no Lennon, oh yeah he was shot dead by a possible patsy, it isn't hard to 9-11.

[Michal Ptacnik]

Well, no. We have to have an organization to make the present government grow useless. That is the only way. You can't correct a wrong system, you either tear it down, no will to do that now, or you find a way not to need it by building from scratch something new and better.

[FredT01]

well -

let me say this -

Government IS , in actuality , for people that need a leader - - -

This is just somehow  a natural function of the human condition - - - to want to belong to a group ; to have a leader etc ......

However -

It should be the function of any Government or Organization to point the individual towards personal freedom - after all , I don't believe that you are born with this function .

Nowadays , though , this is just not the case ......  Government steps in and exploits this " weakness " by making the individual further dependent , and driving them further into slavery .


That's why I do not agree with the assertion of an Earth with " no religion " .......  if people want religion , and it is helping them out - - - why hassle them about it , right ?

Unfortunately , Barack Obama has exploited this weakness by declaring himself a " god " ......  replacing , or trying to replace , mainstream religion with a ' personality cult ' - himself ( this is not an uncommon practice ) ....

I will be the first to admit that mainstream religion has many , many abuses - - -
The Protestants have set themselves up with a " God " that is outside of oneself - - - who sits up on throne , and watches and judges everything you do .... and if you don't do the right thing , you are punished -

This scenario , combined with the Protestant work ethic  ( one must continually work to make things  better & better & faster & faster )  ......

.... has given us a perfect control grid - - - Work ( hard ) , because God is judging you , until you drop dead ... then ; " maybe " you will get a reward ( heaven )  ...

This sounds like one of my old bosses philosophy ( sigh )

Well, no. We have to have an organization to make the present government grow useless. That is the only way. You can't correct a wrong system, you either tear it down, no will to do that now, or you find a way not to need it by building from scratch something new and better.

[Mike Philbin]

I'm not talking about sectarian 'right or wrong', I'm just talking about facing the facts.

Government needs to WIPE YOUR BOTTY when YOU ARE A BABY.

[Truth researcher]

secret meetings?

[FredT01]

Government treats you like a Child ; because when you are a child is when you are most dependent .

I am making a " generalized " , sweeping statement about Government though , and people that are in it , that is not entirely true .

In my experience with local Government around here ; I would say that 8 out of 10 Gov. people that I deal with are crooked / gangster shysters that are there to rip off the public , and then run and hide .... you will always have 1 or 2 people out of that group that know what they are doing , are not there to rip off the public , and are honestly trying to do some good.

It would be my assesment that a good goal would be to increase this percentage to at least 4 out of 10 good guys by the next election ; then go for 6 of 10 - - - to have a majority .

I'm not talking about sectarian 'right or wrong', I'm just talking about facing the facts.

Government needs to WIPE YOUR BOTTY when YOU ARE A BABY.

[Volitzar]

http://www.constitutionparty.com/view_states.php

The CP is already on the ballot in several states, click yours and see what you can do.

[FredT01]

well -

i'll probably start the Global Freedom Party - - - seeing as there is such an * overwhelming * clamor to do so ( rolls eyes ) 

I would like to stress , however , that this will be a Political Action Committee ( P.A.C. . )  , and not a Political Party .

I AM , however , interested in the Constitution Party , and would like to find out if the Constitution Party holds any local , State , or National offices at this particular time -

Where would I find this information , Volitzar ?

http://www.constitutionparty.com/view_states.php

The CP is already on the ballot in several states, click yours and see what you can do.

[Michal Ptacnik]

I'm not talking about sectarian 'right or wrong', I'm just talking about facing the facts.

Government needs to WIPE YOUR BOTTY when YOU ARE A BABY.

Smiley

This is actually a very old observation that even the ancients made, though they used different words; they would say that only a people without virtue need a tyrant.

However, we are not all of us a people with (so complete a) virtue, e.g. the "morality of moderation," or so to speak, therefore a tyrant (a government) is necessary.

[Mike Philbin]

I argue that 'we think that way', we think the world is SOLID and we think LAWS will temper our sin because we have no global perspective.

And by saying this I'm not saying (Sane), "Mike Philbin is a globalist cointelpro sent here to f**k up the beautiful non-revolution." I'm saying that if we really stopped and looked at where we are in the solar system and the big old sprawling money-shot we're making all over it in the form of poisonous INDUSTRIAL waste, we wouldn't approach 'tyrannical' government in the same way.

Governments are meant to be overthrown - so end all governments.
Rules are meant to be broken - so end all laws.
Free Planet is ours - let's have it.

This is actually a very old observation that even the ancients made, though they used different words; they would say that only a people without virtue need a tyrant.

However, we are not all of us a people with (so complete a) virtue, e.g. the "morality of moderation," or so to speak, therefore a tyrant (a government) is necessary.

[EvadingGrid]

We believe that the United States is a Soveriegn Nation , and NOT part of a Global Governance Cabal ... as typified by the
European Union , and the coming American , Asian , and African Unions -

What is wrong with Americans ?
Global does not mean the world revolves around the USA.

Just how do you think our French,  Icelandic and Vietnam readers feel about these issues ?

[EvadingGrid]

I argue that 'we think that way', we think the world is SOLID and we think LAWS will temper our sin because we have no global perspective.

And by saying this I'm not saying (Sane), "Mike Philbin is a globalist cointelpro sent here to f**k up the beautiful non-revolution." I'm saying that if we really stopped and looked at where we are in the solar system and the big old sprawling money-shot we're making all over it in the form of poisonous INDUSTRIAL waste, we wouldn't approach 'tyrannical' government in the same way.

Governments are meant to be overthrown - so end all governments.
Rules are meant to be broken - so end all laws.
Free Planet is ours - let's have it.

Sorry to disagree, but it reads to me like an Anarchists Charter.