Whistleblowers exposes global warming is a HOAX!

[N.E.P.]

"I'm f*cked"

[Xill]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230943/Climate-change-scandal-BBC-expert-sent-cover-emails-month-public.html

You know it's BS right? This guy did not get the emails before we did, they are just trying to make it seem less important than it actually is.

It was released on a Russian torrent tracker and that's it. It was not sent to CNN, they have no proof; it's just a tactic to deviate the subject.

[wembley87]

You know it's BS right? This guy did not get the emails before we did, they are just trying to make it seem less important than it actually is.

It was released on a Russian torrent tracker and that's it. It was not sent to CNN, they have no proof; it's just a tactic to deviate the subject.

I just wanted to point out that this story is at least making the msm , this story in the msm has to be better than it not right? Hopefully people will see it and look into it a bit deeper for themselves.

[Xill]

I just wanted to point out that this story is at least making the msm , this story in the msm has to be better than it not right? Hopefully people will see it and look into it a bit deeper for themselves.

Yeah I know, it just pisses me off so much when I see those degenerated media NWO whores on TV trying to claim they've got it first. Arrrrrrgg    How can someone even believe that propaganda sellout reporter got the leak first? Proof: He didn't mention it before, which would be even worse if he did had received it. Lying scums.

THE PEOPLE got it first, not the establishment. The Infowarriors got it first and WE made sure it would be all over the internet in less than 1 hours, we uploaded it to all, and now they have a scandal on their and, because of US.  

We (the awaken "conspiracy theorist") are clearly leading the information war right now.

[EvadingGrid]

You know it's BS right? This guy did not get the emails before we did, they are just trying to make it seem less important than it actually is.

It was released on a Russian torrent tracker and that's it. It was not sent to CNN, they have no proof; it's just a tactic to deviate the subject.

Interesting

I thought that what happend was they sent the info to the press, and then they refused to publish the story. I thought it just went to prove how biased and controlled the media have become.

[wembley87]

Yeah I know, it just pisses me off so much when I see those degenerated media NWO whores on TV trying to claim they've got it first. Arrrrrrgg    How can someone even believe that propaganda sellout reporter got the leak first? Proof: He didn't mention it before, which would be even worse if he did had received it. Lying scums.

THE PEOPLE got it first, not the establishment. The Infowarriors got it first and WE made sure it would be all over the internet in less than 1 hours, we uploaded it to all, and now they have a scandal on their and, because of US.  

We (the awaken "conspiracy theorist") are clearly leading the information war right now.

I hear you brother   but lets the word out any way we can , if that means people have to learn this through the msm and do a bit of research for themselves , than thats better than nothing .

[Librium]

Is CBC deleting any mention of Climategate from the comment section on this news story? Yesterday almost every climate story's comment section was flooded with "Climategate" references,

However today on this story http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/11/26/harper-copenhagen-summit026.html I couldn't find one, i am seeing things here?

[Librium]

No, they seem to be letting it slide in now.

[Xill]

Is CBC deleting any mention of Climategate from the comment section on this news story? Yesterday almost every climate story's comment section was flooded with "Climategate" references,

However today on this story http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/11/26/harper-copenhagen-summit026.html I couldn't find one, i am seeing things here?

Gosh the comments there are so depressing.

[Librium]

I know, I am starting to feel really helpless here, I just left another comment, but I'm ready to throw in the towel here. They have been busted RED f**kING HANDED, and these moron lemmings just don't get it.

Sigh,

[Mike Philbin]

is 'global warming' a TOO BIG TO FAIL company right now?

I mean, they STOLE 20 TRILLION of your tax dollars to prop up a banking system that's proper broke*.



* and by that I mean works fine, for criminals to steal money from their clients.

[chrisfromchi]

I know, I am starting to feel really helpless here, I just left another comment, but I'm ready to throw in the towel here. They have been busted RED f**kING HANDED, and these moron lemmings just don't get it.

Sigh,

Beyond posting links to the actual emails and clips like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEggt0ldQUI to boards and sending to friends and such is about all we can do until the scientists themselves or those investigating this get it started.

911 truth wasn't easy in the beginning either.

[v]

I heard Science Czar Holdren is implicated in the emails.  Anyone seen those particular emails?

[Librium]

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php

[chrisfromchi]

I heard Science Czar Holdren is implicated in the emails.  Anyone seen those particular emails?

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php

Search John Holdren
There were 6 results for the exact phrase John Holdren
There were 131 results for the keywords used in your search: John Holdren

[Polaris]

anyways, ARE YOU ENJOYING THE SHOW GUYS

[Brocke]

Excuse me a moment while I tear my hair our and beat my head against a wall! Ahhh! If the emails were from a photographer admitting he'd Photoshopped Demi Moore's waistline you can bet it would be on the front page of every paper on this now cooling planet. The MSM ignored this story as long as they could or they were awaiting orders from headquarters. Now they simply poo poo the whole thing and tell us to move along. If this isn't proof of the media being totally controlled I don't know what is.

We need to start preempting their next scare campaign Oxygen Depletion by talking about it now.



Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"
Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:54pm EST

by Stacy Feldman, SolveClimate solveclimate.com/

(SolveClimate) Three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report documenting the accelerating pace of climate change said the scandal that erupted last week over hacked emails from climate scientists is nothing more than a "smear campaign" aimed at sabotaging December climate talks in Copenhagen.

"We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public," said Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Scripps Institution of Oceanography and a lead author of the UN IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.

Dissenters see action to slow global warming as "a threat," he said.

The comments were made in a conference call for reporters.

The scientists—Somerville, Michael Mann of Penn State and Eric Steig of University of Washington—were supposed to be discussing their new report, the Copenhagen Diagnosis, a dismal update of the UN IPCC's 2007 climate data by 26 scientists from eight nations.

Instead they spent much of the time diffusing the hacker controversy, known in the media as "Climate Gate."

The scandal began on November 20, when an unknown hacker stole at least 169 megabytes of emails from computers at the prominent Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia and put them online for the world to see.

CRU is considered one of the world's leading institutions concerned with human-caused global warming. The leaked emails contain private correspondence on climate science dating back to 1996.

Skeptics of global warming say these messages are filled with evidence of manipulated data from lead authors of the UN's highly influential IPCC reports.

U.S. Sen. James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma, pictured here), a climate skeptic, said he would launch an inquiry into UN climate change research in response.

In an interview with the Washington Times radio show, Inhofe explained the investigation would look into "the way cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not."

CRU Vice-Chancellor of Research Trevor Davies responded in an official statement:

"There is nothing in the stolen material which indicates that peer-reviewed publications by CRU, and others, on the nature of global warming and related climate change are not of the highest-quality of scientific investigation and interpretation."

Michael Mann, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis and lead author of the UN IPCC Third Assessment Report, blamed skeptics for taking the personal emails out of context.

"What they've done is search through stolen personal emails—confidential between colleagues who often speak in a language they understand and is often foreign to the outside world. Suddenly, all these are subject to cherry picking," he said.

They've turned "something innocent into something nefarious," Mann added.

The vital point being left out, he said, is that "regardless of how cherry-picked," there is "absolutely nothing in any of the emails that calls into the question the deep level of consensus of climate change."

This is a "smear campaign to distract the public," said Mann. "Those opposed to climate action, simply don't have the science on their side," he added.

Professor Davies called the stolen data "the latest example of a sustained and, in some instances, a vexatious campaign" designed "to distract from reasoned debate" about urgent action governments must take to reverse climate change.

According to Somerville, the comments in the emails "have nothing to do with the scientific case" for climate change.

It is "desperate" to launch this right before Copenhagen, Eric Steig, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis, said on the call.

Sen. Inhofe, meanwhile, lauded the timing of the incident.

"The interesting part of this is it's happening right before Copenhagen. And, so, the timing couldn't be better. Whoever is on the ball in Great Britain, their timing was good," he said.

Science Can't Silence Skeptics, Still

The fallout from the scandal is putting some of the world's leading climate scientists on the defensive and underlining the influence of skeptics, even as the case for human-caused warming gets stronger.

According to the Copenhagen Diagnosis report, climate change has rapidly accelerated beyond all previous predictions and humans are to blame.

The findings are a synthesis of 200 peer-reviewed papers that continued to pour in from all over the world after the UN IPCC issued its 2007 analysis. Somerville described the report as an "authoritative assessment" of the newest climate change data.

The results reveal that global warming emissions in 2008 were nearly 40 percent higher than those in 1990. Further, sea level rise is 80 percent above past IPCC predictions.

If 2 degree Celsius warming is to be avoided—the point at which catastrophic damage is predicted to occur—fossil fuel emissions must peak between 2015 and 2020, "and then decline rapidly," the authors warn.

"There's an urgency to this that is not politically or ideological driven," said Somerville. This is "objective scientific reality," he added, and we're "running out of time," to stop the problem.

In a statement released on Tuesday, three of the UK's leading science organizations—the Met Office, the Natural Environment Research Council and the Royal Society—issued an unusually strong statement in advance of Copenhagen. They wrote:

The scientific evidence which underpins calls for action at Copenhagen is very strong. Without co-ordinated international action on greenhouse gas emissions, the impacts on climate and civilization could be severe.

http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125

[N.E.P.]

Just the Facts
Polar bears not on such thin ice

http://www.cfact.org/a/1493/Polar-bears-not-on-such-thin-ice
by CFACT
One of the most publicized faces of the alleged global warming crisis is that of the polar bear, which some say is going extinct because a loss of habitat. But according to a new report by the National Center for Policy Analysis, coastal stations in Greenland actually show a cooling trend, Russian stations also show none of the predicted warming, and temperatures at the summit of the Greenland Ice Sheet have decreased 4 degrees Fahrenheit per decade since measurements began in 1987. When you also consider that of the 20 known polar bear populations, only two are decreasing, while 10 are stable, and two are actually increasing, it appears polar bears may not be on such thin ice, after all.

[Librium]

More dirt being exposed: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/26/mcintyre-data-from-the-hide-the-decline/

and this http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-dont-cover-up-the-divergence/

[SUPREMEMASTER]

Excuse me a moment while I tear my hair our and beat my head against a wall! Ahhh! If the emails were from a photographer admitting he'd Photoshopped Demi Moore's waistline you can bet it would be on the front page of every paper on this now cooling planet. The MSM ignored this story as long as they could or they were awaiting orders from headquarters. Now they simply poo poo the whole thing and tell us to move along. If this isn't proof of the media being totally controlled I don't know what is.

We need to start preempting their next scare campaign Oxygen Depletion by talking about it now.



Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"

(SolveClimate) Three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report documenting the accelerating pace of climate change said the scandal that erupted last week over hacked emails from climate scientists is nothing more than a "smear campaign" aimed at sabotaging December climate talks in Copenhagen.

"We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public," said Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Scripps Institution of Oceanography and a lead author of the UN IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.

Dissenters see action to slow global warming as "a threat," he said.

Instead they spent much of the time diffusing the hacker controversy, known in the media as "Climate Gate."

The scandal began on November 20, when an unknown hacker stole at least 169 megabytes of emails from computers at the prominent Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia and put them online for the world to see.

Skeptics of global warming say these messages are filled with evidence of manipulated data from lead authors of the UN's highly influential IPCC reports.

CRU Vice-Chancellor of Research Trevor Davies responded in an official statement:

"There is nothing in the stolen material which indicates that peer-reviewed publications by CRU, and others, on the nature of global warming and related climate change are not of the highest-quality of scientific investigation and interpretation."

Michael Mann, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis and lead author of the UN IPCC Third Assessment Report, blamed skeptics for taking the personal emails out of context.

"What they've done is search through stolen personal emails—confidential between colleagues who often speak in a language they understand and is often foreign to the outside world. Suddenly, all these are subject to cherry picking," he said.

They've turned "something innocent into something nefarious," Mann added.

The vital point being left out, he said, is that "regardless of how cherry-picked," there is "absolutely nothing in any of the emails that calls into the question the deep level of consensus of climate change."

This is a "smear campaign to distract the public," said Mann. "Those opposed to climate action, simply don't have the science on their side," he added.

Professor Davies called the stolen data "the latest example of a sustained and, in some instances, a vexatious campaign" designed "to distract from reasoned debate" about urgent action governments must take to reverse climate change.

According to Somerville, the comments in the emails "have nothing to do with the scientific case" for climate change.

It is "desperate" to launch this right before Copenhagen, Eric Steig, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis, said on the call.

Science Can't Silence Skeptics, Still

The fallout from the scandal is putting some of the world's leading climate scientists on the defensive and underlining the influence of skeptics, even as the case for human-caused warming gets stronger.

According to the Copenhagen Diagnosis report, climate change has rapidly accelerated beyond all previous predictions and humans are to blame.

The results reveal that global warming emissions in 2008 were nearly 40 percent higher than those in 1990. Further, sea level rise is 80 percent above past IPCC predictions.

If 2 degree Celsius warming is to be avoided—the point at which catastrophic damage is predicted to occur—fossil fuel emissions must peak between 2015 and 2020, "and then decline rapidly," the authors warn.

"There's an urgency to this that is not politically or ideological driven," said Somerville. This is "objective scientific reality," he added, and we're "running out of time," to stop the problem.

In a statement released on Tuesday, three of the UK's leading science organizations—the Met Office, the Natural Environment Research Council and the Royal Society—issued an unusually strong statement in advance of Copenhagen. They wrote:

The scientific evidence which underpins calls for action at Copenhagen is very strong. Without co-ordinated international action on greenhouse gas emissions, the impacts on climate and civilization could be severe.

http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125

I took out some lines, but anyway:

Check out the Psychological-Warfare.

[Xill]

Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"
Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:54pm EST

by Stacy Feldman, SolveClimate solveclimate.com/

(SolveClimate) Three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report documenting the accelerating pace of climate change said the scandal that erupted last week over hacked emails from climate scientists is nothing more than a "smear campaign" aimed at sabotaging December climate talks in Copenhagen.

"We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public," said Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Scripps Institution of Oceanography and a lead author of the UN IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.

Dissenters see action to slow global warming as "a threat," he said.

The comments were made in a conference call for reporters.

The scientists—Somerville, Michael Mann of Penn State and Eric Steig of University of Washington—were supposed to be discussing their new report, the Copenhagen Diagnosis, a dismal update of the UN IPCC's 2007 climate data by 26 scientists from eight nations.

Instead they spent much of the time diffusing the hacker controversy, known in the media as "Climate Gate."

The scandal began on November 20, when an unknown hacker stole at least 169 megabytes of emails from computers at the prominent Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia and put them online for the world to see.

CRU is considered one of the world's leading institutions concerned with human-caused global warming. The leaked emails contain private correspondence on climate science dating back to 1996.

Skeptics of global warming say these messages are filled with evidence of manipulated data from lead authors of the UN's highly influential IPCC reports.

U.S. Sen. James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma, pictured here), a climate skeptic, said he would launch an inquiry into UN climate change research in response.

In an interview with the Washington Times radio show, Inhofe explained the investigation would look into "the way cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not."

CRU Vice-Chancellor of Research Trevor Davies responded in an official statement:

"There is nothing in the stolen material which indicates that peer-reviewed publications by CRU, and others, on the nature of global warming and related climate change are not of the highest-quality of scientific investigation and interpretation."

Michael Mann, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis and lead author of the UN IPCC Third Assessment Report, blamed skeptics for taking the personal emails out of context.

"What they've done is search through stolen personal emails—confidential between colleagues who often speak in a language they understand and is often foreign to the outside world. Suddenly, all these are subject to cherry picking," he said.

They've turned "something innocent into something nefarious," Mann added.

The vital point being left out, he said, is that "regardless of how cherry-picked," there is "absolutely nothing in any of the emails that calls into the question the deep level of consensus of climate change."

This is a "smear campaign to distract the public," said Mann. "Those opposed to climate action, simply don't have the science on their side," he added.

Professor Davies called the stolen data "the latest example of a sustained and, in some instances, a vexatious campaign" designed "to distract from reasoned debate" about urgent action governments must take to reverse climate change.

According to Somerville, the comments in the emails "have nothing to do with the scientific case" for climate change.

It is "desperate" to launch this right before Copenhagen, Eric Steig, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis, said on the call.

Sen. Inhofe, meanwhile, lauded the timing of the incident.

"The interesting part of this is it's happening right before Copenhagen. And, so, the timing couldn't be better. Whoever is on the ball in Great Britain, their timing was good," he said.

Science Can't Silence Skeptics, Still

The fallout from the scandal is putting some of the world's leading climate scientists on the defensive and underlining the influence of skeptics, even as the case for human-caused warming gets stronger.

According to the Copenhagen Diagnosis report, climate change has rapidly accelerated beyond all previous predictions and humans are to blame.

The findings are a synthesis of 200 peer-reviewed papers that continued to pour in from all over the world after the UN IPCC issued its 2007 analysis. Somerville described the report as an "authoritative assessment" of the newest climate change data.

The results reveal that global warming emissions in 2008 were nearly 40 percent higher than those in 1990. Further, sea level rise is 80 percent above past IPCC predictions.

If 2 degree Celsius warming is to be avoided—the point at which catastrophic damage is predicted to occur—fossil fuel emissions must peak between 2015 and 2020, "and then decline rapidly," the authors warn.

"There's an urgency to this that is not politically or ideological driven," said Somerville. This is "objective scientific reality," he added, and we're "running out of time," to stop the problem.

In a statement released on Tuesday, three of the UK's leading science organizations—the Met Office, the Natural Environment Research Council and the Royal Society—issued an unusually strong statement in advance of Copenhagen. They wrote:

The scientific evidence which underpins calls for action at Copenhagen is very strong. Without co-ordinated international action on greenhouse gas emissions, the impacts on climate and civilization could be severe.

http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125

Hugh, I think I'm going to be sick...

[SpeakUpFightBack]

I do hereby declare, 11/20/09 'Praise Hackers Day'!!!!


http://tinypic.com/r/2lx7o3/6


http://tinypic.com/r/2ljnv9i/6


http://tinypic.com/r/i5od1e/6


http://tinypic.com/r/2qci6bd/6

[Xill]

I sent solveclimate.com this message:

I wished to express my extreme disgust with an article titled "Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"" by Stacy Feldman. Never in my life have I seen such an orwellian piece of propaganda.

I do not need to say more, the writer of the article is well aware of his devious deed.
I guess real values like honour and honesty are now things of the past.

People like Stacy Feldman have hi-jacked the real environmental movement to impose a global carbon tax; if the leaked emails of ClimateGate were of no importance scientists would not be discussing lawsuits.

For every biased propaganda article you are posting the truth is being sent to hundreds of website. The more you lie, the more people will respond with the truth.
You may not cheat history and real science.

Sincerely,

[criticalunity]

Clean energy technology is suppressed while allowing with clear indifference by the controllers who cause an engineered problem of pollution to be created consisting of not only carbon (it's MONOXIDE mostly by the way) but other gasses. Their solution is not giving us the bloody clean energy tech already, no... They are going to control every aspect of our lives, unless we all wake the hell up by passing on the message in a way that its clear that this is empowering to know what is really going on... the light must be turned on in the darkened room.

If only our power was generated by the solar panels that I see on the side of the road to power parking meters and construction signs, we would not have these predators sucking us dry and controlling us and getting in our faces.

Come on people, now there is proof that AGW is a scam and I have to say that I at first thought there was global warming about 4 years ago, I even downloaded all gore's film. It has been put in the trash once I did the thorough research diligently, and I sincerely hope society can do the same, to just step back and see the forest through the trees.

[criticalunity]

We are all spiritually hindered and our sense  of awe and wonderment has been reduced by distractions and social engineering in this scientific dictatorship that we must take the leadership to stand up before our ship goes down.

   

[SUPREMEMASTER]

YouTube Link: "ClimateGate - Final Cut Mashup !" (With Alex Jones)

Video Description:

In an Historic event, hackers successfully broke into CRU University emails and documents, uncovering the global warming conspiracy!

Mainstream media is whitewashing this story -- so it is up to us to get this info out! Link to this video, Digg it, make your own responses, tweet, and do everything you can to expose this international conspiracy.


As a new European Union President is announced, hackers reveal the conspiracy behind global warming when they uncover emails from a university detailing the entire plot to misrepresent the facts.


********DOWNLOAD THE HACKED EMAILS AND DOCUMENTS BELOW******** :
http://88.80.16.63/leak/climactic-research-unit-foi-leaked-data.zip

I just HAVE to bring up this video... for those who haven't seen it...

[Georgiacopguy]

The facepalm to end all facepalms. I Love it.

"I'm f*cked"

[kushfiend]

MY GOD!!! PEOPLE ARE IN SUCH MEGA SUPER DENIAL!!!

Never, in all my life, did I think we could ever get such definitive proof of how fake the global warming scam really is.

The entire principle the IPCC is built on is that MANKIND is SOLELY responsible for climate change, they don't even factor nature into climate change.  So, without even knowing the effect of nature on climate change, these "scientists" just blamed regular people, like you and me, for what they call "global warming," although the buzzword being used these days I noticed is "climate change" probably because the EARTH IS COOLING, NOT WARMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I don't know how many times dumbass people that can't handle reality are going to have this screamed into their faces before they finally grasp the concept that they are about to be enslaved forever in a carbon credit slavery scheme.

I took oceanography in college and even in that basic course, I was able to see how little of an effect mankind has on this planet's climate.  CO2 is just one tiny particulate that makes up our entire atmosphere, and increases in CO2 come AFTER the Earth gets warmer, NOT BEFORE!!!  ANOTHER BOMBSHELL!!

Truthfully, it doesn't matter how much evidence you show these "climate change believers" because they are never going to be convinced by anyone but themselves that the climate change theory isn't real.  Unfortunately, it may already be too late.  I just saw that China's Premier is going to be attending Copenhagen.  If China signs onto this devilish tax-and-trade policy, then we are f**ked. 

There's still enough ppl who buy this bullshit to enslave us all. 

[portuguese anarchist]

   Love it, watching the cockroaches run for cover!

Great analogy, by the way, Jackson Holly.

[toonzersloon]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/nov/23/global-warming-leaked-email-climate-scientists

Link has most likely already been posted, just wanted to know what was ment by "The co-operation of these governments requires unflagging effort. The capture of George W Bush, a late convert to the cause of Communist World Government, was made possible only by the threatened release of footage filmed by a knight at Yale, showing the future president engaged in coitus with a Ford Mustang."

I am well aware of the fraud of global warming but I hope this isn't a trap by the NWO. I fear that the puppets will come out and say that this was all staged to put us in a group that isn't credible.

Ofcoarse propaganda on there part but according to the guardian's article there is a "ring of secret nuclear power stations around the Arctic circle, attached to giant immersion heaters" and "space-based lasers dissolving the world's glaciers". All possible I suppose.

Forgive me as i am a noob having only being woken up in the last few months but I look forward to your comments on the extracts from the article. And if this may of been engineered by the globalists so that in the future they can put spin on the thing (although they are attempting this already)

Thanks

[Lisbeth]

The writer in the Guardian was being SARCASTIC - he meant that if someone could show him 'immersion heaters' etc then he would be a global warming sceptic.  You should read  the article again - you obviously missed his sarcasm!!

[toonzersloon]

Sarcasm was definitely where my mind was leaning towards. I guess i was just hoping that someone in the mainstream media was aware of the global warming scam.

[Lisbeth]

The Telegraph exposes the NWO more than other papers.  The Telegraph blogger did an article on the global warming scam.

[toonzersloon]

Nice one thanks. I will have a look-see.

[EvadingGrid]

The Telegraph exposes the NWO more than other papers.  The Telegraph blogger did an article on the global warming scam.

Yes, and its probably because its now owned by The Barclay Brothers - who are not Bildberg (just for a change).

[Librium]

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/27/uea-climate-scientist-possible-that-i-p-c-c-has-run-its-course/

UEA Climate Scientist: “possible that…I.P.C.C. has run its course” 27/11/2009

This is a surprise. Professor Mike Hulme of the University of East Anglia suggests that the “I.P.C.C. has run its course”. I agree with him. We really need to remove a wholly political organization, the United Nations, from science.



Republished from New York Times Reporter Andrew Revkin’s Dot Earth:

Dot Earth: Insights from Mike Hulme at the University of East Anglia, which was the source of the disclosed files. Hulme, a climate scientist at the University of East Anglia and author of “ Why We Disagree About Climate Change,” has weighed in with these thoughts about the significance of the leaked files and emails. In November 2009, Hulme was listed as “the 10th most cited author in the world in the field of climate change, between 1999 and 2009. (ScienceWatch, Nov/Dec 2009, see Table 2).

Hulme Key Excerpt:

[Upcoming UN climate conference in Copenhagen] “is about raw politics, not about the politics of science. [...] It is possible that climate science has become too partisan, too centralized. The tribalism that some of the leaked emails display is something more usually associated with social organization within primitive cultures; it is not attractive when we find it at work inside science. It is also possible that the institutional innovation that has been the I.P.C.C. has run its course. Yes, there will be an AR5 but for what purpose? The I.P.C.C. itself, through its structural tendency to politicize climate change science, has perhaps helped to foster a more authoritarian and exclusive form of knowledge production – just at a time when a globalizing and wired cosmopolitan culture is demanding of science something much more open and inclusive.

Full Hulme Statement:

The key lesson to be learned is that not only must scientific knowledge about climate change be publicly owned — the I.P.C.C. does a fairly good job of this according to its own terms — but the very practices of scientific enquiry must also be publicly owned, in the sense of being open and trusted. From outside, and even to the neutral, the attitudes revealed in the emails do not look good. To those with bigger axes to grind it is just what they wanted to find.

This will blow its course soon in the conventional media without making too much difference to Copenhagen — after all, COP15 is about raw politics, not about the politics of science. But in the Internet worlds of deliberation and in the ‘mood’ of public debate about the trustworthiness of climate science, the reverberations of this episode will live on long beyond COP15. Climate scientists will have to work harder to earn the warranted trust of the public – and maybe that is no bad thing.

But this episode might signify something more in the unfolding story of climate change. This event might signal a crack that allows for processes of re-structuring scientific knowledge about climate change. It is possible that some areas of climate science has become sclerotic. It is possible that climate science has become too partisan, too centralized. The tribalism that some of the leaked emails display is something more usually associated with social organization within primitive cultures; it is not attractive when we find it at work inside science.

It is also possible that the institutional innovation that has been the I.P.C.C. has run its course. Yes, there will be an AR5 but for what purpose? The I.P.C.C. itself, through its structural tendency to politicize climate change science, has perhaps helped to foster a more authoritarian and exclusive form of knowledge production – just at a time when a globalizing and wired cosmopolitan culture is demanding of science something much more open and inclusive.

h/t to Marc Morano

[Librium]

Someone injecting some truth into the media from behind the reporter, Classic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sZx90EH8N8&feature=player_embedded

[iRonic]

these Scientists love using there tricks and trying to milk info
Keith Briffa is one hell of a character,
oh well not sure if its much of nothing, thought id post anyhow


Keith,

Thanks for your consideration. Once I get a draft of the central
and southern siberian data and talk to Stepan and Eugene I'll send
it to you.

I really wish I could be more positive about the Kyrgyzstan material,
but I swear I pulled every trick out of my sleeve trying to milk
something out of that. It was pretty funny though - I told Malcolm
what you said about my possibly being too Graybill-like in evaluating
the response functions - he laughed and said that's what he thought
at first also. The data's tempting but there's too much variation
even within stands. I don't think it'd be productive to try and juggle
the chronology statistics any more than I already have -

full context of emails here
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=10&filename=.txt
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=10&filename=.txt

[chrisfromchi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gefSwMCTjuc&NR=1

lawl

[the general]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gefSwMCTjuc&NR=1

lawl

worth clicking on.  we all need to be as fired up as that guy. 

what he didn't mention, is the effect climategate could have on 9/11 truth.  if they lied about climategate, why should we believe what they say about 9/11?