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**Tarpley exposes the Fort Hood false flag**
« on: November 14, 2009, 05:13:43 pm »
Tarpley breaks down the Fort Hood false flag like no-one else has. On his weekly radio show this week Tarpley explains how Hassan is a classic patsy a la Oswald and Atta, how the soldiers on base thought it was a drill, how there were multiple shooters...and so on.

This is a must listen, get it from the GCN podcasts (11/14) or commercial free from this torrent:

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Re: **Tarpley exposes the Fort Hood false flag**
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2009, 05:26:26 pm »
frankly, i've come to enjoy webster's show more than alex jones'. i mean who does alex rely on for his movies? everyone here should be listening to tarpley.
Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

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Re: **Tarpley exposes the Fort Hood false flag**
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2009, 05:33:53 pm »
frankly, i've come to enjoy webster's show more than alex jones'. i mean who does alex rely on for his movies? everyone here should be listening to tarpley.

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WOW--Webster Tarpley--17 pages on Hasan, Bethesda, Ft Hood and Virginia Tech
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 02:16:44 am »

  No one reports better than Webster Tarpley.

  Listen to his show today on GCN Live (11-14-09)

  He calls Hasan a patsy.  Enjoy.



       http://actindependent.org/HasanPatsy.pdf


  

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  Tarpley believes there where at least 3 shooters and at least 2 different venues.  He bases this on the reports that were reported that afternoon.

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NIDAL MALIK HASAN OF VIRGINIA TECH, BETHESDA, AND
FORT HOOD: A MAJOR PATSY IN A DRILL GONE LIVE?


By Webster G. Tarpley
14 November 2009
http://actindependent.org/HasanPatsy.pdf

In the wake of the massacre at Fort Hood Texas, two principal theories have emerged to
explain the conduct of the accused shooter, identified by the U.S. Army as Major Nidal
Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist of Jordanian-Palestinian ancestry. One of these
theories is embraced by left liberals and other supporters and acolytes of the Obama
regime, and argues that Major Hasan is a sincere and devout Muslim who was the victim
of a tragic contradiction between his religious faith and the logic of the Iraq and
Afghanistan wars, both the heritage of the odious Bush-Cheney regime. According to
this version, Hasan must be viewed as a troubled and tormented individual who
"snapped," breaking down psychologically under the stress of his awful predicament.
Here is how Obama summed up this approach: “Even within the extraordinary military
that we have – and I think everybody understands how outstanding the young men and
women in uniform are under the most severe stress – there are going to be instances in
which an individual cracks.” (New York Times, 10 November 2009) Calling Major Hasan
a terrorist amounts, in this view, to racism and vindictive prejudice.

The other theory is the one advocated by assorted neocons, reactionaries, Islamophobes
and others generally hostile to Obama. This account maintains that Major Hasan was a
homegrown, self-starting Islamic terrorist, trumpeting his devotion to jihad and suicide
bombing, seeking to make contact with “Al Qaeda,” and generally filled with hate for
America, for freedom, and for his fellow soldiers. In this view, it is only the pervasive
political correctness and multicultural obsession of the subversive-riddled and soft-onterrorism
Obama regime that prevented Major Hasan from being neutralized before he
could act, and which prevents Obama and his Democratic allies from telling the truth
after the fact.

These views are both superficial, naïve, and inadequate.1 They amount to two prongs of
an articulated campaign of media hysteria and mass manipulation designed on the one
hand to prod the dithering Wall Street puppet Obama – who is having second thoughts
about his own political survival – into an early decision in favor of massive escalation of
the war in Afghanistan for the purpose of hastening the breakup of Pakistan, and thus
threatening China. On the other hand, the delirium of Islamophobic hatred being ginned
up against Major Hasan by the usual cast of reactionary radio ogres (Limbaugh, Beck,
Hannity, Levin) seeks to accentuate and strengthen the racist and xenophobic elements in
the militant anti-Obama opposition, in particular among the Tea Party movement. The
decision to put the infamous Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his confreres on trial in New
York City, plus the recent government seizure of numerous US mosques and other
buildings on the grounds that they are Iranian assets, also contribute to a growing mood

1 Another concept asserts that the 13 Army personnel were killed during the suppression of a mutiny
occasioned by the overstretch of US forces caused by Obama’s contination of the Iraq war and escalation of the Afghan war. Almost a week after the massacre, no direct substantiation for this idea has emerged.


of anti-Moslem hysteria. This atmosphere is accentuated by the reckless and irresponsible
actions of some Moslem groups which happen to be foundation-funded, and must thus be
considered as part of the apparatus of US domestic social control.

The media narrative which is now being consolidated a week after the shootings is full of
contradictions, embarrassed silences, and absurdities. A third and distinct approach to this
case is therefore required, one which regards Major Hasan as a manipulated patsy in the
context of a relatively sophisticated operation mounted by forces within the US
intelligence community, using methods and assets which by now ought to have become
familiar. Major Hasan can be seen as a mixture of Lee Harvey Oswald, legendary 9/11
“suicide pilot” Mohammed Atta, and Cho Seung-Hui (the alleged April 2007 Virginia
Tech shooter). He also has elements of reputed Robert Kennedy assassin Sirhan Sirhan,
and of John Hinckley Jr., who was involved in an attempt to kill President Reagan – both
of whom survived the operations in which they were implicated. He thus represents a
new cocktail of patsy ingredients. Until now, Islamic terrorists had come in collectivist
groups, and not alone. Major Hasan by contrast is a troubled loner in the tradition of
Oswald, at the same time that he embodies the religious fanaticism of Atta, along with
some of his peccadilloes. Major Hasan is that novelty, a troubled Islamic fundamentalist
loner, even though this is something of a contradiction in terms. Like Cho, Major Hasan
emerges from the psychiatric clinic, in his case as a practicing psychiatrist, but as a shrink
with egregious symptoms of his own. Like all patsies, Major Hasan combines the
flamboyant and bombastic proclamation of his personal creed with a seeming immunity
from bureaucratic countermeasures which would normally be automatic in shutting him
down. Hasan is revealed as a fanatic, a misfit, and a quasi-psychotic or psychotic mental
case in his own right – who could not subsist without protectors in high places of the US
intelligence community.

In my 2005 book 9/11 Synthetic Terrorism, I argued that 9/11 and other recent terrorist
attacks represented provocations cynically orchestrated by privately controlled rogue
networks operating within the US intelligence agencies for purposes of mass political
manipulation. Starting from an overview of terrorist actions from the Gunpowder Plot of
1605 through 9/11, I developed a method of analysis of state-sponsored false flag
terrorism which distinguished the roles of fanatical, duped, or psychotic patsies like
Oswald, of subversive moles ensconced as officials within government agencies, and of
technicians or professional killers who actually create the observed effects, all
commanded and coordinated from outside of government, and all operating within the
atmosphere of mass brainwashing provided by the Wall Street media. I also highlighted
the role of drills and exercises which are hijacked and turned into real-world terror
attacks. In order to understand the Fort Hood massacre, it is indispensable to apply this
method here as well.

TROOPS THOUGHT IT WAS A DRILL – DID MAJOR HASAN THINK SO TOO?

In investigations like this, it is generally a great mistake to fixate on the scapegoat dished
up by the mass media. The more we focus on the Oswald of the day, the less we
understand of what actually happened. Let us turn away from the TV pundits, and listen
instead to the eyewitness testimony of the troops who were present at the shootings.
Many of them are on record agreeing that the events of November 5 were initially
interpreted by those on the scene as an exercise, as a drill. Emphasis will be added to
bring out this central fact.

From ABC News we get the following testimony: Solider Keara Bono ‘told "Good
Morning America" today that she initially thought the scene of Hasan standing up,
praising Allah and starting to fire was a drill. She didn't believe it was real even when
she felt her own blood, she said. "Then I looked to my left and right and I saw people that
were bleeding," she said. That's when Bono realized that Hasan's rampage wasn't a
drill.’ (ABC News GMA)2

In the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel of 9 November 2009 we find: “Pfc. Amber Bahr of
Random Lake [Wisconsin] heard someone yelling and ducked at the sound of gunfire, but
she said she thought supervisors at Fort Hood were holding a drill last Thursday. She
didn't know she was under live fire until she heard people screaming.”3 This story was
based on an interview given to NBC’s Today Show.

CBS News reported: “Two days after narrowly escaping death at Fort Hood and just
hours after his release from the hospital, Corporal Nathan Hewitt still can't believe what
happened was real. The survivor spoke to CBS News Correspondent Don Teague about
those fateful minutes…. Even after being shot, Hewitt didn't believe what was happening.
He thought the gunfire was a training exercise and that he'd been hit by a rubber
bullet. He says other victims thought the same thing.”4

ABC newsman Bob Woodruff found further corroboration of this general impression
when he was allowed to interview shooting victims who were recovering in the hospital:
“For many of the 43 people wounded when an Army psychiatrist allegedly went on a
shooting rampage at Fort Hood, the scene was unreal – it seemed like something out of a
movie. Maybe it was a drill. ….Capt. Dorrie Carskadon, a combat stress specialist from
Wisconsin, who was at Fort Hood training for a deployment to Afghanistan, said she
initially thought the shooting was a drill.”5 Notice that this testimony comes from a
field grade officer, a captain.

The Austin television station KXAN provides the following evidence: ‘Spc. Scott
Hamrick and First Sergeant James McLeod made it out of the Soldier Readiness
Processing Center alive after some maneuvering to get away from the suspect, Maj. Nidal
Malik Hasan. "My initial thought is that it was a drill," said Hamrick. "Because you

2 http://mobile.abcnews.go.com/wireless/abcnews/section/US/9018559_2
3 http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/69626847.html
4 Don Teague, “Hood Eyewitness Remembers the Tragedy: Corporal Nathan Hewitt Thought Gunfire was
a Drill, Until He Realized He was Bleeding,” at
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/07/eveningnews/main5567562.shtml
5 “Bob Woodruff Hears Soldiers' Tales of Survival, Recovery,” http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/presidentsoldiers-families-flock-ft-hood-memorial/Story?id=9039151&page=1


know you're always getting drilled for situations." However, what Hamrick thought
was a drill turned out to be something closer to war at home.’6
The Miami Herald furnished this account: ‘For Skip Blancett, the senior pastor at the
First United Methodist Church of Killeen, news of the shooting left him anguishing for
hours because his daughter, Hollye Davis, was at a building next door to where the
gunman started firing. She and others were in lockdown for hours. Without a cellphone,
she couldn't call home. “They had no idea what was going on; everyone thought it was a
drill at first,'' Blancett said.’7

The idea that the shooting was part of a drill or exercise was so widespread that it had to
be expressly countered in the first emergency announcement posted on the Fort Hood
web site, which read: "Effective immediately. Fort Hood is closed. Organizations/units
are instructed to execute a 100 per cent accountability of all personnel. This is not a
drill. It is an emergency situation."8

Based on this testimony, it seems clear that unannounced, surprise terror drills are
standard operating procedure at Fort Hood and probably other military bases as well.
They are frequent enough to be the first thing many soldiers, including at least one
officer, thought was happening. Drills are designed to be as realistic as possible. But the
acme of realism is reality – real killing, which can occur through small but decisive
changes in the unfolding of the drill. We may therefore be dealing here with a drill which
has been taken live or flipped live, as so often happens in terror incidents.9

This array of evidence allows us to pose the following question: If so many of the Army
personnel on the scene thought at first that the incident was a drill, did Major Hasan also
think he was attending a drill? Did he imagine that he was going to be an actor playing
the assigned role of a member of the terrorist red team in a realistic exercise? In other
words, was this inept, troubled and quasi-psychotic individual somehow under the
impression that he was attending an officially sanctioned exercise of some routine type,
until real bullets began to be fired by other more qualified shooters, thus taking the drill
live? This might also help us to account for the extraordinary intensity of firing at the
scene – well over 100 rounds. For this working hypothesis to stand up, we would have to
show that there were other gunmen firing – gunmen who knew that the drill was turning
into a real massacre. The additional shooters would according to the classification
referred to above represent the technicians in this action – the trained killers who have
the ability to do the things that the patsy is accused of doing. Interestingly enough, extra
gunmen are exactly what we find.

ONE SHOOTER, OR THREE?

6 http://www.kxan.com/dpp/military/army/kxan_military_Hasan_family_contacts_attorney_11092009
7 http://www.miamiherald.com/460/story/1321119.html
8 http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/reports-of-mass-shooting-at-forthood/?src=twt&twt=nytimes
9 My 9/11 Synthetic Terror provides a detailed discussion of how virtually every aspect of 9/11
corresponded to an exercise or drill which was then taken live.


How many shooters were there? Early reports indicated that there were at least one, and
perhaps two, in addition to Major Hasan. Dow Jones newswires reported at about 5 PM
Eastern Time: “A second gunman is in custody after a shooting at the Army's Fort Hood
in Texas in which at least seven people were killed and 12 wounded, reports KCEN-TV
of Waco. The report comes about two hours after a first suspect was captured, shortly
after gunfire broke out.”10 According to the Dow Jones report cited, shooting had
occurred in two separate locations on the Fort Hood base: “The incident reportedly began
at Fort Hood's theater and then moved to the Soldier Readiness Processing Center,
Killeen City Public Information Officer Hillary Shine told Fox News.” According to an
AP wire, these facts were also announced by an official Army spokesman at the base:
“The spokesman, Lieutenant Colonel Nathan Banks, says two shooters were apparently
involved. There is no word yet on who they were, nor on identities of the dead. Banks
says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base.” 11 Many of the
embarrassing reports about multiple shooters have been purged after the fact from
websites, but a few have survived, as in the case of this Wisconsin radio station, where
we read that the triple assassin theory had been embraced by the commander of the base:
"Newsradio 620 WTMJ: Lt. General Bob Cone at Fort Hood confirms 12 dead, 31 hurt in
shooting. Soldier gunman killed. 2 others in custody.”12 During the later afternoon, cable
television talked of three shooters, and in the London Daily Mirror account we find:
“Twelve people were killed and 31 wounded when three gunmen in uniform opened fire
at the US Army's largest armoured base in Texas yesterday. One gunman was shot by
civilian police and the two others held at Fort Hood.”13

GEN. CONE BRINGS MAJOR HASAN BACK FROM THE DEAD AFTER 8 HOURS

It was only in the late evening that the official lone assassin version of these events was
assembled in another press conference by General Cone held about eight hours after the
shooting had started: “KILLEEN, Texas (KXAN/AP/MSNBC) - Twelve died and
another 31 were hurt in a mass shooting on Fort Hood that stunned the nation on
Thursday. Accused gunman Major Malik Nidal Hasan is alive and in stable condition, Lt.
Gen. Bob Cone said at a Thursday evening news conference just outside the storied
military post - the largest in the United States. Counter to initial reports, the 39-year-old
psychiatrist - who was thought to be killed by local police - is hospitalized and not
expected to die of multiple gunshots wounds sustained during the 1:30 p.m. attack. The
local police officer who allegedly shot Hasan and injured him is in the hospital also in
stable condition.”14

10 Dow Jones Newswires 11-05-091656ET at http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-newsstory.aspx?storyid=200911051656dowjonesdjonline000934
11 www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihGepAkECGoDagETVBMpPb3w7Y3gD9BPJO100
12 Newsradio 620 WTMJ, November 5 at 2:01pm CST, at http://www.facebook.com/620wtmj accessed 13
November 2009.
13 www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/11/06/brown-it-s-like-ww1-2-115875-21801278/
14 http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/military/military_kxan_texas_shooting_on_ft._hood_2009110514301257453645749


In the course of the day, we had thus gone from three shooters to only one. The separate
shooting incident at the Howze theater on the post reported earlier had also been
expunged in the process. Most remarkable of all was the ability of Major Hasan to come
back from the dead after eight hours in which the world had been assured of his demise.
Such resurrection is of course a physical impossibility for mere mortals. When
individuals are alleged to have performed deeds which are physically impossible in the
world as we know it, from Oswald's feats of shooting to Atta’s (and Hani Hjanjour’s)
feats of flying, we must become suspicious that intelligence agencies are assisting the
probable patsies in hidden ways. Major Hasan is said to have fired more than 100 rounds
using the two pistols he is alleged to have carried. This seems like a lot of shooting for a
single person surrounded by scores of trained combat veteran soldiers, even if these latter
had not been carrying their usual weapons.

The categorical imperative for every patsy is to get noticed, and to call attention to
himself or herself pointedly and repeatedly, by hook or by crook. They must stand out so
much that they will be remembered by many ordinary people after the process of their
demonization has been launched. In order to fulfill their function, patsies must leave a
trail of clues and evidence which will tie themselves and the larger target group they
supposedly represent to the heinous actions they will shortly be accused of having
committed. Oswald handed out leaflets sympathetic to Cuba and told a television
audience that he was a Marxist. He went to the USSR, and tried to go to Cuba. Atta
cultivated a frightening stare, and took time to argue ostentatiously about a parking place
at an airport in Maine while he allegedly thought he was on his way to death. Major
Hasan seems to have some of the same strange proclivities. On the day of the shooting,
Major Hasan made sure there was no doubt about his religious loyalties by donning a
trademark “Islamic” white robe and skull cap to go to his local Seven-Eleven, where he
was sure to be filmed by the security cameras there. This footage was then played on all
the networks for the next 48 hours. This gesture recalls the Koran Atta left in his car at
Boston’s Logan airport. When the FBI located Atta’s rented car, they found a copy of the
Koran, airline schedules, terrorist literature and videotapes, and Atta’s crudely forged last
will and testament in the luggage – all obviously and crudely left behind to make the
necessary point. Atta’s will betrayed the amateurish attempt of some half-baked area
specialist to sound Islamic

At Fort Hood, Major Hasan ‘told a colleague, Col Terry Lee, that he believed Muslims
should rise up against American "aggressors."’ 15 Count de Borchgrave points out that
Major Hasan had made at least one overtly ominous statement just before the shooting
spree: ‘As the Virginia-born major told a female neighbor in his apartment complex, "I'm
going to do good work for God."’16 The neighbor would not forget that grim pledge
anytime soon. Major Hasan was suspected of having authored internet postings that
compared suicide bombers with soldiers who throw themselves on hand grenades to save
others, although here we must be cautious, since these postings could have been made by
imposters. All accounts agree that witnesses heard a shout of “Allahu Akbar” just before

15 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texasarmy-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html
16 http://www.newsmax.com/borchgrave/hasan_martyr/2009/11/09/283713.html


the firing started. Less clear is whether these words were spoken by Major Hasan. And if
he did say them, was this a line from the scenario script of a drill?

MAJOR HASAN’S RANT TO MILITARY DOCTORS: “WE LOVE DEATH MORE
THAN YOU LOVE LIFE”

The most elaborate attempts by Major Hasan to assert and establish a thoroughly Islamic
profile for himself came in the form of a lecture at the Uniformed Service University of
the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Maryland. He was supposed to present a paper on an
issue of medical or clinical interest, but instead elected to make a ranting speech about
the oppression of Moslems in the US military and the dangerous consequences this was
sure to have. Here are some relevant parts of the account published by Dana Priest in the
Washington Post: ‘The Army psychiatrist believed to have killed 13 people at Fort Hood
warned a roomful of senior Army physicians a year and a half ago that to avoid "adverse
events," the military should allow Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious
objectors instead of fighting in wars against other Muslims.

The title of Hasan's PowerPoint presentation was "The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the
U.S. Military." Under a slide titled "Comments," he wrote: "If Muslim groups can
convince Muslims that they are fighting for God against injustices of the 'infidels'; ie:
enemies of Islam, then Muslims can become a potent adversary ie: suicide bombing, etc."
[sic] The last bullet point on that page reads simply: "We love death more then [sic] you
love life!" Under the "Conclusions" page, Hasan wrote that "Fighting to establish an
Islamic State to please God, even by force, is condoned by the Islam," and that "Muslim
Soldiers should not serve in any capacity that renders them at risk to hurting/killing
believers unjustly – will vary!" The final page, labeled "Recommendation," contained
only one suggestion: "Department of Defense should allow Muslims [sic] Soldiers the
option of being released as 'Conscientious objectors' to increase troop morale and
decrease adverse events."’17

Objections were made to Major Hasan’s tirade: “Students on a 2007-2008 master’s
programme at a military college revealed … that they had complained to faculty about
Major Hasan’s alleged anti-American views. They included him giving a presentation
that justified suicide bombing and telling classmates that Islamic law trumped the US
Constitution.”18 But nothing serious happened. According to National Public Radio's
Joseph Shapiro, the worst thing that happened was that Hasan was given a period of
probation early in his postgraduate work because of his insistence on seeking to convert
to Islam some coworkers and the soldiers he was treating.

The title of this speech, "The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the U.S.
Military," sounds very academic and not very Islamic at all. It seems to imply that Islam
and the Koran are just a world view or Weltanschauung among others. It falls far short of

17 Dana Priest, Washington Post, 10 November 2009 at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2009/11/09/AR2009110903618.html. See the slide show, which is posted with this
article.
18 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texasarmy-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html


the basic Islamic fundamentalist claim to represent the authority of absolute revealed
truth. We are reminded of Mohamed Atta’s will and instructions for his own funeral,
which Islamic experts have found to be replete with elements and formulations utterly
alien to Islam.

The categorical imperative for every mole is to protect the relevant patsies from
investigation or arrest until the terror event has occurred and it is time to round the patsies
up as scapegoats. The part about "We love death more then [sic] you love life!" is blatant
ID format “Al Qaeda” speak, and in a military setting this speech would normally be
more than enough to trigger a probing investigation into Major Hasan's activities and
belief structure. But no serious consequences ensued, suggesting that Major Hasan was
an asset who was being protected for the sake of some future mission which he was being
groomed and prepared to perform.

Thus, while Hasan’s medical superiors were aware of him as a problem case, they chose
to do nothing: a “group of doctors overseeing Nidal Malik Hasan's medical training
discussed concerns about his overly zealous religious views and strange behavior months
before the Army major was accused of opening fire on soldiers and civilians at Fort
Hood, Texas. Doctors and staff overseeing Hasan's training viewed him at times as
belligerent, defensive and argumentative in his frequent discussions of his Muslim faith, a
military official familiar with several group discussions about Hasan said…. As a
psychiatrist in training, Hasan was characterized in meetings as a mediocre student and
lazy worker, a matter of concern among the doctors and staff at Walter Reed Army
Medical Center and the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences military
medical school, the official said.” (AP, 11 November 2009)19 At the same time, the
training of a psychiatrist involves intensive psychological profiling and in-depth analysis
by professors as an integral part of the training. As a shrink among shrinks, Major
Hasan’s psychology must have been well known to the military doctors who were his
professors. This opens up an avenue for manipulating and controlling him which has not
been present in other terrorism cases. Did one or more of the Major Hasan’s analysts
have a sideline as terrorist controllers and mind benders working for the rogue network?

WALTER REED OFFICIALS ASKED: “WAS HASAN PSYCHOTIC?”

A more explicit and illuminating version of Major Hasan’s psychiatric review comes
from National Public Radio. Here we find that he was variously evaluated as
“disconnected, aloof, paranoid, belligerent, and schizoid.” This raised the problem of
whether he was actually psychotic and thus suffering from severe mental illness: ‘Starting
in the spring of 2008, key officials from Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the
Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences held a series of meetings and
conversations, in part about Maj. Nidal Hasan….One of the questions they pondered:
Was Hasan psychotic? Both fellow students and faculty were deeply troubled by Hasan's
behavior – which they variously called disconnected, aloof, paranoid, belligerent, and
schizoid. The officials say he antagonized some students and faculty by espousing what
they perceived to be extremist Islamic views. His supervisors at Walter Reed had even

19 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091111/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_fort_hood_shooting

reprimanded him for telling at least one patient that "Islam can save your soul." Hasan
spent six years as a psychiatrist at Walter Reed, beginning in 2003, and he had a
fellowship at USUHS until shortly before he went to Fort Hood in the summer of 2009. A
committee of officials from both places regularly meets once a month to discuss pressing
topics surrounding the psychiatrists and other mental health professionals who train and
work at the institutions. Participants in the spring meeting and in subsequent
conversations about Hasan reportedly included John Bradley, chief of psychiatry at
Walter Reed; Robert Ursano, chairman of the Psychiatry Department at USUHS; Charles
Engel, assistant chair of the Psychiatry Department and director of Hasan's psychiatry
fellowship; Dr. David Benedek, another assistant chairman of psychiatry at USUHS;
psychiatrist Carroll J. Diebold; and Scott Moran, director of the psychiatric residency
program at Walter Reed, according to colleagues and other sources who monitor the
meetings.’20 Why did this august panel not take any practical steps in regard to Major
Hasan? This account blames bureaucratic inertia and political correctness founded on the
fear of seeming to discriminate against Moslems. But these reasons need to be
supplemented with another possibility: that a witting mole (or moles) was shielding
Major Hasan from any sanctions so he could go on to greater things as a witting or
unwitting agent provocateur and patsy.

One comment included in this NPR account was especially ominous: “Another official
reportedly wondered aloud to colleagues whether Hasan might be capable of committing
fratricide, like the Muslim U.S. Army sergeant who, in 2003, killed two fellow soldiers
and injured 14 others by setting off grenades at a base in Kuwait.” Despite such real and
present dangers, nothing was done.

MAJOR HASAN’S MOSQUE LINKED TO THE CIA’S CHECHEN TERRORISTS

In recent years, Major Hasan attended a mosque in Silver Spring Maryland which hosted
fundraising for CIA covert operations against Russia: “Imam Faizul Khan ministered to
Hasan when he worshiped at the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring, Md…. The
Muslim Community Center has held fundraisers for Chechen jihadists, and promotes on
its website a Shariah-based financial product offered by a Muslim Brotherhood front
group under federal investigation.”21 The essential element here is that the mosque was
raising money for Chechen rebellion, which is notoriously a strategic tool of the United
States and the United Kingdom against Russia. Perhaps such a fundraiser for Chechen
terrorism might have been attended by Ilyas Achmadov, the de facto ambassador of the
leading CIA-backed Chechen organization implicated in terrorism, who lives in
Washington, DC at US taxpayer expense thanks to his sponsorship by Zbigniew
Brzezinski, the gray eminence of Obama’s foreign policy team.

The impression that Major Hasan was in fact a protected patsy is strengthened by reports
that he frequented mosques which have figured in previous intelligence operations, and

20 Daniel Zwerdling, “Walter Reed Officials Asked: Was Hasan Psychotic?” National Public Radio,
November 11, 2009, http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120313570
21 World Net Daily, 10 November 2009, at
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115465


that he was in contact with an American-born Muslim cleric now living in Yemen who
currently plays the role of one of the most bombastic agent provocateurs operating under
the umbrella designation of “al Qaeda.”

ANWAR AWLAKI, PATSY MINDER FOR HANI HANJOUR OF 9/11 INFAMY

In earlier years, Hasan had worshipped with his mother at the radical Dar al-Hijrah
Islamic Center in Falls Church, Virginia. During 2001, he worshipped there alongside
some of the 9/11 patsies, specifically those alleged to have been aboard the aircraft which
allegedly struck the Pentagon. The dominant figure of this mosque was at that time a
certain Anwar Awlaki or Awlaqi, who must be regarded as an intelligence agency
operative and patsy-minder, the latter because of his role in supervising the alleged
Pentagon suicide pilot Hani Hanjour and other 9/11 figures who frequented the mosque.
Hanjour, whose purported feats of flying would if true have placed him above the Red
Baron in the Valhalla of air aces, was in fact a pathetic and clumsy nebbish.

Just after the Fort Hood massacre, Awlaki used his website for a bombastic endorsement
of Major Hasan and the Texas slaughter, evidently designed with Pavlovian technique to
goad Islamophobic US reactionaries into a frenzy and give the radio ogres much grist for
their mill. Here is the relevant report from the New York Times: ‘Mr. Awlaki, an
American citizen born in New Mexico to Yemeni parents, wrote on Monday on his
English-language website that Mr. Hasan was “a hero.” The cleric said, “He is a man of
conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in
an army that is fighting against his own people.” He added, “The only way a Muslim
could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the U.S. Army is if his intention is to
follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.”’22 This was a piece of crude manipulation, and at
the same time an engraved invitation to an anti-Moslem pogrom. The report went on:
‘But since leaving the U.S. in 2002 for London, and later Yemen, Mr. Awlaki has
become a prominent proponent of militant Islam via his Web site, www.anwaralawlaki.
com. The Toronto Star reported last month that a group of young Canadians
charged with plotting attacks against military and government targets were inspired, in
part, by listening to Mr. Awlaki’s sermons online. In 2000 and 2001, Mr. Awlaki served
as an imam at two mosques in the United States frequented by three future 9/11 hijackers.
Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi attended the Rabat mosque in San Diego, where
Mr. Awlaki later admitted meeting Hazmi several times but “claimed not to remember
any specifics of what they discussed,” according to the report of the national 9/11
commission. Both Hazmi and another hijacker, Hani Hanjour, later attended the Dar al
Hijra mosque in Falls Church, Virginia after Mr. Awlaki had moved there in early 2001.
The 9/11 commission report expressed “suspicion” about the coincidence, but said its
investigators were unable to find Mr. Awlaki in Yemen to question him.’23 We should
notice the nice plug given here to Awlaki’s web site by the New York Times; his site

22 “U.S. Monitored Fort Hood Suspect Before Shooting," New York Times, 9 November 2009 at
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33807907/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/?ns=us_newsthe_new_york_times
23 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33807907/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/?ns=us_newsthe_new_york_times


traffic is sure to benefit enormously. Major Hasan had taken care to establish his
devotion and fealty to Awlaki during the time leading up to the massacre. He left no
doubt that he was a disciple of Awlaki: ‘Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his
deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort
Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.’24

Major Hasan, it transpired, had also been exchanging emails with the fiery double agent
he so much lionized; the imam-provocateur had fled abroad after 9/11and was now
operating under “al Qaeda” cover from Yemen. According to one report: “two
government officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not
authorized to discuss the case on the record, said the Washington-based joint terrorism
task force overseen by the FBI was notified of communications between Hasan and a
radical imam overseas, and the information was turned over to a Defense Criminal
Investigative Service employee assigned to the task force. The communications were
gathered by investigators beginning in December 2008 and continuing into early this
year. That Defense investigator wrote up an assessment of Hasan after reviewing the
communications and the Army major's personnel file, according to these officials. The
assessment concluded Hasan did not merit further investigation – in large part because
his communications with the imam were centered on a research paper about the effects of
combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and the investigator determined that Hasan was in fact
working on such a paper, the officials said. The disclosure Tuesday of the defense
investigator's role indicated that the U.S. military was aware of worrisome behavior by
the massacre suspect long before the attack. Just hours later, a senior defense official,
also demanding anonymity, directly contradicted that notion. The senior defense official
said neither the Army nor any other part of the Defense Department knew of Hasan's
contacts with any Muslim extremists…. Military, law enforcement and intelligence
agencies also are defending themselves against tough questions about what each of them
knew about Hasan before he allegedly opened fire in a crowded room at the huge military
base in Texas.” 25

AWLAKI HELPED ENTRAP FORT DIX SIX, TORONTO DUPES

The decision of the Army to ignore Major Hasan’s correspondence with Awlaki is all the
more astounding given Awlaki’s status as one of the premier terror impresarios of the age
operating under Islamic fundamentalist cover. More than a mere ideologue, he is a
recruiter and an entrepreneur of terror. His web site would not survive five minutes of
concerted US cyber-attacks, but he is not disturbed in his role as a pied piper of patsies.
In particular, Awlaki and his work were used to motivate and encourage groups of
mentally impaired and suggestible young dupes who were entrapped into “terrorist plots”
by busy FBI and Canadian RCMP agents during recent years, thus keeping the boogey
man of Islamic terrorism in the public eye. ‘In addition to his contacts with Major Nidal
Hasan, the radical American cleric, Anwar al Awlaki, served as an inspiration for men
convicted in terror plots in Toronto and Fort Dix, New Jersey, according to government

24 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texasarmy-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html
25 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091110/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_fort_hood_shooting


officials and court records reviewed by ABCNews.com….Despite his ties to other plots,
including the one against the Army post at Fort Dix, some 20 e-mails between Awlaki
and Major Hasan were dismissed as "innocent" by a military investigator working on the
FBI's Joint Terror Task Force in Washington, D.C...."He is not just a proselytizer but
someone who is operational, with deep and longstanding connections to al Qaeda and has
been for some time," said a former senior American intelligence official who had access
to classified information. Awlaki was characterized in court testimony as an inspiration
by two of six Muslim immigrants convicted on conspiracy and other charges in a plot to
kill U.S. military personnel at Fort Dix….In Toronto, members of the so-called Toronto
18 watched videos of Awlaki at a makeshift training camp where they allegedly planned
an attack on the Canadian parliament and prime minister.’26

YET ANOTHER DELIBERATE FBI SNAFU

Just as in the 9/11 instance, the scandalous failure to connect the dots and round up the
patsies was due to the non-feasance and malfeasance of the FBI, the criminally negligent
agency which, according to 9/11 commission co-chair Gov. Thomas Kean, “failed and
failed and failed,” but nevertheless escaped breakup after 9/11. Starting in 1996, the FBI
had been aware that international terrorists were making a show of learning to fly
passenger jets at U.S. flight schools, but took no action. According to a press report, the
failure to inform Major Hasan’s superiors was the direct and specific responsibility of the
FBI: "The Pentagon said it was never notified by US intelligence agencies that they had
intercepted e-mails between of the alleged Fort Hood shooter and an extremist imam until
after last week's bloody assaults, raising new questions about whether the government
could have helped prevent the attack…. a person familiar with the matter said a Pentagon
worker on the terrorism task force overseen by the Federal Bureau of Investigation was
told about the intercepted e-mails several months ago. But members of the terror task
forces aren't allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get
permission from the FBI, which leads the task force. In this case, the Pentagon worker, an
employee from the Defense Criminal Investigations Service,, helped make the assessment
that Major Hasan wasn’t a threat, and the FBI’s ‘procedures for sharing the information
were never used,’ said the person familiar with the matter."27 Those involved in this
decision by FBI and the Defense Department need to be probed as possible terror moles.

This is reminiscent of the FBI’s Dave Frasca, who could not assemble and act on the pre-
9/11intelligence he had on his desk. This was a new chapter of the story of FBI sabotage
told by Colleen Rowley and documented at the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui in 2006. If the
FBI had rounded up the 9/11 patsies, the operation could not have occurred – not because
the patsies were going to fly planes into buildings by themselves, but because the jailing
of patsies before the fact would have made the targeting of the Moslem world impossible.

26 ABC News, “From Yemen, Anwar Awlaki Helped Inspire Fort Dix, Toronto Plots
Despite Terror Connections, E-mails with Major Hasan Did Not Raise Red Flags” at
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/anwar-awlakis-terrror-ties/story?id=9055322
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/anwar-awlakis-terrror-ties/Story?id=9055322&page=1
27 Yochi J. Dreazen and Evan Perez, “Army Wasn’t Told of Hasan’s Emails,” Wall Street Journal, 11
November 2009.


In this sense, the same FBI rogue networks which made 9/11 possible are still in place
and still effectively sabotaging effective law enforcement.

MAJOR HASAN’S SECURITY CLEARANCE: SECRET

Major Hasan reportedly has a security clearance which allows him to receive secret
information. All US Army officers are required to have at minimum a secret-level
security clearance, and Major Hasan’s clearance might even have been at the more
stringent top-secret level. All indications are that Major Hasan’s clearance was never
reviewed, despite his ostentatious antics. Major Hasan’s aberrant behavior should at the
very least have put him in line for a National Agency Check or NAC. Newsweek writes
that ‘extended NACs, which the officials indicated are more likely for would-be military
officers, would include checks of local and state police records in jurisdictions where the
subject lived, as well as credit-bureau and financial-record checks. In the event that some
kind of “derogatory” information turns up during these checks, one of the officials said,
field investigators are likely to be sent out to conduct interviews, and the procedure could
also include an interview with the security-clearance applicant.’28 This puts Major Hasan
in a very special category, subject to special rules and surveillance which are enforced by
specific agencies, and not by military physicians of whatever rank. Perhaps the most
direct evidence that Major Hasan was a protected patsy was the fact that he could make
incendiary speeches and correspond with self-proclaimed “al Qaeda” firebrands without
having his security clearance reviewed, to say nothing of lifted.

As a well informed Stratfor letter to the editor posting points out: “The contacting of a
foreign Islamic militant who openly espouses killing of Americans is, in and of itself, a
violation of U.S. security regulations with respect to individuals with security clearances.
Hasan’s foreign contact should have been reported through the chain-of-command to his
commander, Lt. Gen. Cone, in consultation with his G-2, Counter-Intelligence Staff
Officer, Personnel Security Officer and the CID, could have immediately suspended Maj.

Hasan’s security clearance subject to a local AR 15-6 investigation. Lt. Gen. Cone is
responsible for force protection of assets in his command, not a DoD criminal
investigator. A minimally competent investigation would have uncovered other
comments and actions that would probably have resulted in adverse command action on
Maj. Hasan’s security clearance and possibly led to charges being brought for conduct
unbecoming an officer.”29 But the usual rules were suspended for Majopr Hasan,
indicating that he belonged to a special class of persons – patsies who were being
groomed for future actions and therefore had to be kept out of trouble.

LIKE ATTA AND KSM, THE DEVOUT MAJOR HASAN LIKES STRIP CLUBS

Thanks to the investigative work of Daniel Hopsicker, it has been revealed that key 9/11
figure Mohammed Atta was no devout and puritanical Moslem, but a hedonist. The

28 Mark Hosenball, “Fort Hood Shooter: How Recently Was His Security Clearance Updated?” in
Newsweek at http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2009/11/06/ft-hood-shooter-howrecently-was-his-security-clearance-updated.aspx
29 http://www.stratfor.com/content/hasan_case_1


legendary Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), touted by the controlled media as the “9/11
mastermind,” was also devoted to alcohol, floozies, and nightlife. It is striking that Major
Hasan, allegedly a rigid and doctrinaire Moslem, also conforms to this model. Patsies
working for or manipulated by the de facto Islamic fundamentalist directorate of Anglo-
American intelligence seem to share the same decadent western foibles. One of Major
Hasan’s favorite relaxations was to attend the local strip club: ‘Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan
came into the Starz strip club not far from the base at least three times in the past month,
the club's general manager, Matthew Jones, told FoxNews.com. Army investigators
building their case against Hasan plan to interview Jones soon. "The last time he was
here, I remember checking his military ID at the door, and he paid his $15 cover and
stayed for six or seven hours," Jones, 37, said. Jennifer Jenner, who works at Starz using
the stage name Paige, said Hasan bought a lap dance from her two nights in a row. She
said he paid $50 for a dance lasting three songs in one of the club's private rooms on Oct.
29 and Oct. 30. She recalled that he arrived at about 6:30 p.m. and stayed until 2 a.m. She
said he brought in a six pack of light beer, took only a few sips from one can and gave the
rest to the strippers. "He preferred the blondes," said Jenner, whose hair was dyed blond
at the time. "He said he was a medic and that he was being deployed soon, but mostly he
wanted to ask us questions."’30 Needless to say, alcohol and strippers do not an Islamic
fundamentalist make.

As for prominent 9/11 figure Atta, he was in fact not a practicing Moslem at all, but
rather a devotee of alcohol, cocaine, call girls, and pork chops. Like Major Hasan, Atta
preferred blondes, specifically pink strawberry ones. He cohabited with a 22-year old call
girl who may also have been a sex operative for one of the intelligence agencies. Amanda
Keller worked for a “lingerie model escort service” in Sarasota called Fantasies & Lace.
Atta loved to attend topless bars, where he would order lap dances at the Pink Pony, or
else stuff twenty-dollar bills into the g-strings of the dancers at the Olympic Garden
nightclub. He was also a regular at Harry’s Bar in Naples. Atta’s favorite nightspots were
the Cheetah in Venice, and Margarita Maggie’s in Sarasota. FBI investigators showing
around pictures of Atta after 9/11 found that he had been in a bar drinking Stolichnaya
vodka for three hours quite recently; with him was accused suicide pilot Marwan al
Shehhi, who preferred rum. Atta was also a frequent cocaine user. He would habitually
snort rows of cocaine with a dollar bill. Are we therefore dealing here with two patsies
from the same levy, two parallel patsy lives?

FROM ARMY-MCCARTHY TO ARMY-LIEBERMAN

The reactionaries of today yearn for the days of Senator Joe McCarthy (R-Wisconsin),
who launched his campaign of red-baiting and witch-hunting some six decades ago. At
the height of the Cold War, McCarthy launched the hysterical charge that the US Army
had been massively infiltrated by agents of the international communist conspiracy. This
led to the infamous and protracted Army-McCarthy hearings in the Senate, during which
McCarthy’s influence reached its demagogic apex. Today, the neocons are still full of
rancor and resentment over their wholesale ouster from the government through the end
of the Bush-Cheney era, and the ascendancy of the Brzezinski-Nye-Soros faction of

30 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html

liberal imperialists who control Obama. Immediately after the shootings, Senator Joe
Lieberman announced that he will use his Homeland Security Subcommittee to
investigate the failure of the intelligence agencies to connect the dots in the Fort Hood
incident. Already, neocon web sites are contending that the US Army of the Obama era is
thoroughly infiltrated by Islamic fundamentalists favorable to terrorism. Lieberman says
he wants to know how the Army missed numerous warning signs about Hasan's radical
views. The Army-Lieberman hearings may soon launch an anti-Moslem witch hunt in the
US military, fulfilling much neocon nostalgia. The best approach would be to empanel a
genuinely independent board of inquiry to investigate the Fort Hood massacre. Care
should be taken to avoid the begging of the question and the blatant conflicts of interest
which made the recent Kean-Hamilton 9/11 commission such a mockery. Care should
also be taken to keep the inevitable Lee Hamilton out of any board of inquiry, given his
wretched track record of cover-up and misprision.

FORT HOOD MOSLEM CLERIC TO MAJOR HASAN: “THERE’S SOMETHING
WRONG WITH YOU”

The London Daily Telegraph interviewed Osman Danquah, a local Moslem clergyman,
who had contact with Major Hasan. Osman Danquah had come to the conclusion that
Major Hasan had debilitating mental problems, and was not suitable for any leadership
roles – even though he was an Army officer of the middle rank. Citing several sources,
this paper writes: ‘What does seem clear is that the army missed an increasing number of
red flags that Hasan was a troubled and brooding individual within its ranks. "I was
shocked but not surprised by news of Thursday's attack," said Dr Val Finnell, a fellow
student on a public health course in 2007-08 who heard Hasan equate the war on
terrorism to a war on Islam. Another student had warned military officials that Hasan was
a "ticking time bomb" after he reportedly gave a presentation defending suicide
bombers…. Osman Danquah, the co-founder of the Islamic Community of Greater
Killeen, said Hasan never expressed anger toward the army or indicated any plans for
violence. But he said that, at their second meeting, Hasan seemed almost incoherent. "I
told him, 'There's something wrong with you'. I didn't get the feeling he was talking for
himself, but something just didn't seem right." He was sufficiently troubled that he
recommended the centre reject Hasan's request to become a lay Muslim leader at Fort
Hood.’31

The pathos Major Hasan’s existence is perhaps most clearly portrayed in his unsuccessful
effort to find a wife of his own faith: ‘Relatives said that the death of Hasan's parents, in
1998 and 2001, turned him more devout. "After he lost his parents he tried to replace
their love by reading a lot of books, including the Koran," his uncle Rafiq Hamad said.
"He didn't have a girlfriend, he didn't dance, he didn't go to bars." His failed search for a
wife seemed to haunt Hasan. At the Muslim Community Centre in the Washington
suburb of Silver Spring, he signed up for an Islamic matchmaking service, specifying that
he wanted a bride who wore the hijab and prayed five times a day.” Major Hasan
returned repeatedly and obsessively to the same theme, according to a another

31 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texasarmy-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html

acquaintance: "Adnan Haider, a retired professor of statistics, recalled how at their first
meeting last year, a casual introduction after Friday prayers, Hasan immediately asked
the academic if he knew "a nice Muslim girl" he could marry. "It was a strange thing to
ask someone you have met two seconds before. It was clear to me he was under pressure,
you could just see it in his face," said Prof Haider, 74, who used to work at Georgetown
University in Washington. "You could see he was lonely and didn't have friends.32

WAS MAJOR HASAN BRAINWASHED?

Given the accumulated evidence that Major Hasan was possibly psychotic, there remains
the question of whether this psychosis might have been endogenous and due to natural
and spontaneous causes, or whether it had been artificially produced in him through a
program of brainwashing and heavy-duty “Clockwork Orange” psychological
manipulation by others. We cannot exclude the possibility that Major Hasan went out on
November 5 consciously determined to kill, and may also have discharged his weapons.

We thus have two possible scenarios: on the one hand Major Hasan the duped patsy
caught totally by surprise when the shooting started, and on the other, Major Hasan the
psychotic and criminally insane killer who possessed the will, if not necessarily the
ability, for serious shooting. There may be evidence for both scenarios. We should also
point out that seeing Major Hasan as a psychotic killer in his own right does not in any
way rule out the presence of additional and more capable shooters. We are reminded
here of the case of Sirhan Sirhan, who appears to have fired at Robert Kennedy, but who
also appears to have received a powerful assist from some other as yet unidentified more
expert shooter who may have actually fired the lethal bullet.

MAJOR HASAN’S VIRGINIA TECH CONNECTION

Where would Major Hasan have been brainwashed? An obvious place to look would be
the precincts of Virginia Tech, the home of Cho Seung-Hui, the alleged mass killer of 32
students and professors along with himself in April 2007. This incident involves far too
many unanswered questions to be addressed in detail here. In any case, the fact that
Major Hasan graduated from the alma mater of Cho should be enough by itself to raise
some red flags. We should also recall that several additional homicides have occurred in
and around Virginia Tech during the last year. In January 2009, a Virginia Tech doctoral
student beheaded a fellow student in a campus cafe. In this incident, a female graduate
student who had just arrived from China was killed when another graduate student she
knew attacked her with a knife and decapitated her.33 Beheadings are rare on American
college campuses even today, so this is an extraordinary event indeed. In August 2009,
two Virginia Tech University students were found murdered at a Jefferson National
Forest campground that is a popular hangout for students. The bodies of David Lee

32 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texasarmy-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html
33 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national2009/01222009-01-22_virginia_tech_graduate_student_attacked_.html


Metzler, 19, of Lynchburg and Heidi Lynn Childs, 18, of Forest were found by a
passerby.34

So what in the world is going on in or near Blacksburg, Virginia? The report on the
Virginia Tech slayings prepared by a special commission set up by Virginia Governor
Tim Kane covers up the failure of mental health professionals in and around Virginia
Tech to take effective action in regard to Cho, whom they had nevertheless recognized to
be a profoundly disturbed and potentially highly dangerous personality. This report
commits the usual fallacy of petitio principii, begging the question, and assumes from the
start that Cho was the sole shooter.35 Because of this failure to account for numerous
salient features of the Cho incident, this entire case must continue to be classified as
unsolved. We must therefore conclude this essay merely by citing one of the many clues
which the Virginia investigation chose to ignore, but which might begin to account for
the extraordinary number of homicides observed in the area of Blacksburg, Virginia. As a
somewhat obscure web site alleges in an unconfirmed report, "Blacksburg, VA houses a
US government ABOVE TOP SECRET underground laboratory (in the side of a local
Blacksburg mountain) that develops in conjunction with DARPA [Defense Advanced
Research Projects Agency], weapons such as human robotic mind control
programming.”36 Does such a facility exist, and what does it do? At this point, any
further comment would be pure speculation.

We cannot be optimistic that, should he survive, a future trial of Major Hasan will clear
up these questions, any more than criminal trials established the real facts in the cases of
Sirhan Sirhan, Hinckley, McVeigh, or John Allen Muhammad. What does appear
confirmed as of now is the existence of a mutating model of terrorism alongside the
large-scale 9/11 or WMD paradigms of false-flag manipulation seen and propagandized
during the last decade. In this sense, Major Hasan represents the evolution of the figures
of Cho, and also of Steven P. Kazmierczak, the Northern Illinois University shooter of
February 2008. As I wrote last year, “The new model is Virginia Tech gunman Cho, a
mentally disturbed or brainwashed mass killer. Another case was that of Steven P.
Kazmierczak, who in mid-February 2008 shot 21 people and killed five of them at
Northern Illinois University in Dekalb. Kazmierczak was described as being intensely
concerned with “corrections, political violence, and peace and social justice.”37

Will the American public ever learn to see through and reject false flag operations, as
many Spaniards were able to do after the Madrid bombs? Will Americans ever swear off
the dangerous habit of being duped? Will opinion leaders ever master the rather
elementary methods of rogue network, false-flag terrorism? Until this occurs and the
gullibility of the public is reduced, such operations are likely to continue on scales both
small and large, with incalculable consequences for the future of humanity.

34 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/27/virginia-tech-students-fo_n_270892.html
35 http://www.governor.virginia.gov/TempContent/techpanelreport.cfm
36 http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6409
37 Webster G. Tarpley, Obama The Postmodern Coup (Joshua Tree CA: Progressive Press, 2008), p. 71.

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That thing about a spate of mind control-related crimes occurring around Virginia Tech including a beheading is one of the strangest things I've heard in a while.

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The article below is footnote 36 in Tarpley's article.  
Sorry about all the highlighting.  As we know, Hasan was a graduate of VT majoring in Biochemistry.  The VT area really interests me because of all the strange people I met in the area(not just the hillbillies in the mountains).  My son and I were doing business in Roanoke this summer--nothing related to VT or anything in this article.  By the way there is a beautiful blonde VT co-ed missing .  She went to a Metallica concert at the University of Virginia and disappeared there.  Her family lives in Roanoke.  I believe that she was either a victim of foul play or abducted by who knows who.  There is also another VT co-ed that is missing (earlier this year).
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6409


The V-Tech massacre - A real-life Manchurian Candidate

News Commentary ñ April 19, 2007

Virginia Tech University student eyewitnesses repeatedly recall the robotic, detached demeanor of the killer, Seung-Hui Cho.

* he killed with unconscious abandon
* his victims were random
* he did not kill in self-defense

This type behaviour can be construed as indicative of mind control, and/or advanced behavioural modification through the use of mechanical devices such as computer micro-chip implants.



After shooting his first victims, gunman Seung-Hui Cho sent video footage and photographs of himself to US TV network NBC News before going on to kill another 30 more.

Facts:

Virginia Tech is located in Blacksburg, VA.

Blacksburg, VA houses a US government ABOVE TOP SECRET underground laboratory (in the side of a local Blacksburg mountain) that develops in conjunction with DARPA, weapons such as human robotic mind control programming

Virginia Tech focus:

* bio mechanics and tissue cell engineering
* biomedical engineering
* DNA splicing
* studies the impact of new technologies on human behavior
* departments for disaster-related trauma in children reporting directly to Laura Bush
* works on human, crop, and animal diseases
* helps advance science similar to insect/disease-resistant crop seed from Monsanto


More on Virginia Tech:

* has on-campus experts in avian influenza H5N1, "the bird flu"
* active partner with DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency)
* actively works on neuroengineering projects (mind control)
* Virginia Tech students are frequently recruited by the CIA

V-Tech received and continues to receive grants for millions from DARPA

DARPA - a key to what is eroding the soul of America - and the world



Robotics experiment conducted at Virginia Tech University.

DARPA's list of interests: ($500 million spent since 2001)
* superior artificial intelligence technology
* mind-controlled battle robots
* un-manned airplanes that can be flown with nothing more than thought
* remote voice command systems
* autonomous pre-programmed combat soldiers
* advanced human chip implant devices

DARPA is the Pentagon's research arm.

DARPA together with Virginia Tech University is heavily involved in nanoscience and nanotechnology with special emphasis on diagnosis of the human brain to test nanoparticles.

Goals of the V-Tech student slaughter:
* real-world application of the "perfect weapon"
* garner support for gun control/ban
* create diversions
same day of debate to stop war funding/pulling troops out (Congress, DOD, Pentagon, WH)
Alberto Gonzales/state attorneys firing
AIPAC Spy Trial

Cover up/defense:

* deliver to the public a single, lone-nut fall guy

Support groups:
* mainstream media
* expert psychiatric analysis of scapegoat
* breadcrumb trail of manufactured evidence
* naive, ignorant public




Virginia Tech University

Notes:

* all new Virginia Tech buildings on campus are constructed of native limestone (same as Egyptian Great Pyramid) a neutral substance with stable frequency transfer and resonance response

* Virginia Tech is one of only three public universities in the United States to support both a military and a non-military student lifestyle

* most Virginia Tech alumni are, or have been actively involved with NASA

* Virginia Tech University boasts a high-performance-grid computing network; connects with the National Lambda Rail, a national fiber-optic backbone linking research laboratories with supercomputing, storage and visualization capabilities

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The emotionless "Manchurian Candidate" speaks about his brothers/sisters (brotherhood?)

Summary:
Virginia Tech brings together the best minds in the country who are interested in technology thereby creating a pool of potential candidates from which DARPA, the CIA and other government agencies can actively solicit recruits into their "brotherhood" -- a campaign to erect a superior "race" of mechanically engineered beings while simultaneouly reducing human populations and enslaving humans to serve their future robot masters.


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1 Another concept asserts that the 13 Army personnel were killed during the suppression of a mutiny
occasioned by the overstretch of US forces caused by Obama’s contination of the Iraq war and escalation of the Afghan war. Almost a week after the massacre, no direct substantiation for this idea has emerged.


I will throw in what I know....

I have spoken with both Webster Tarpley before, and with some trainees in that very medical unit the Saturday before the massacre.

My dialog with Tarpley, I challenged him on some his claims pertaining to Katrina.  Before he answered either of my questions, he first asked me how I viewed 9/11, the government, etc..   That in my mind reduced his credibility.   9/11 has nothing directly to do with Katrina, and how *I* viewed things should not affect his answer.   If all he was giving us was facts, my opinion of it should not matter.  I was also dissatisfied with his answer in the end.    So...I do think Webster Tarpley knows stuff.    But he seems a little overzealous with his viewpoint, to the point of telling us what to think.   I don't want to be told what to think:  give us FACTS.

Now, my brief contact with the medics before the shooting:   they seemed critical of the training they were receiving.   Effectively, they're a death panel.  A lot of these guys (if not all) were not graduates of med school--they were more like field nurses, and one of their jobs is to triage the wounded.   They're supposed to wheel the wounded into different units, such as "going to die", "not going to die", "low priority".  When the soldiers get carried into the "die" unit, they know full and well exactly where they're going.  A couple medics said they refused to do that.  If their man is dying, they're going to treat that guy to the very end.   A lot of that could be that they're green, they're acting on emotion and they haven't experienced the reality of it that you can't save them all.  But--you know that is a death panel. 

What is incredibly ironic about this is that they used their training for real almost the minute they graduated, before they got sent off.  These are good people who got attacked--they're not the power-hungry thugs from Blackwater.

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I will throw in what I know....

I have spoken with both Webster Tarpley before, and with some trainees in that very medical unit the Saturday before the massacre.

My dialog with Tarpley, I challenged him on some his claims pertaining to Katrina.  Before he answered either of my questions, he first asked me how I viewed 9/11, the government, etc..   That in my mind reduced his credibility.   9/11 has nothing directly to do with Katrina, and how *I* viewed things should not affect his answer.   If all he was giving us was facts, my opinion of it should not matter.  I was also dissatisfied with his answer in the end.    So...I do think Webster Tarpley knows stuff.    But he seems a little overzealous with his viewpoint, to the point of telling us what to think.   I don't want to be told what to think:  give us FACTS.

Now, my brief contact with the medics before the shooting:   they seemed critical of the training they were receiving.   Effectively, they're a death panel.  A lot of these guys (if not all) were not graduates of med school--they were more like field nurses, and one of their jobs is to triage the wounded.   They're supposed to wheel the wounded into different units, such as "going to die", "not going to die", "low priority".  When the soldiers get carried into the "die" unit, they know full and well exactly where they're going.  A couple medics said they refused to do that.  If their man is dying, they're going to treat that guy to the very end.   A lot of that could be that they're green, they're acting on emotion and they haven't experienced the reality of it that you can't save them all.  But--you know that is a death panel. 

What is incredibly ironic about this is that they used their training for real almost the minute they graduated, before they got sent off.  These are good people who got attacked--they're not the power-hungry thugs from Blackwater.

After 17 pages of the most incredible journalistic integrity while the false flag is still fresh in everyone's mind, that is your contribution?

You take one of the narratives we are being fed (not one he created, but one that was already created) and you use it as a point of attack of Webster based on him asking you a simple question?  He ased you a simple question, did you answer it? was it followed up by an answer or were you so sensitive and in conflict that you ran out of the room in disgust? I mean wow, that was an incredible distraction about something immaterial without any context or completeness to the distracting story...cool ;) I'll have to try that technique some day.

Then you talk about the military's poclicy of separating the sick. This is a common policy been used for hundreds of years and is usually necessary when there are multiple casualties per day that requires such things. Either the media/military/government is lying their asses off about the casualties in these genocides, they are understaffed as far as medical personnel, this is just some info about how they are trained for when they go into comhbat, or this is just generic mumbo jumbo.

Not sure what it has to do with Webster Tarpley's 17 pages on the obvious false flag that has just taken place on american soldier against american soldiers to further the NWO's objectives.
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After 17 pages of the most incredible journalistic integrity while the false flag is still fresh in everyone's mind, that is your contribution?

As a matter of fact, yes.   Take it or leave it.    If you choose to leave it, that is your right.   But I am going to contribute what I know--that is mine.

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Tarpley RULES. Bump.
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."

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  TRIAGE--–noun
1.   the process of sorting victims, as of a battle or disaster, to determine medical priority in order to increase the number of survivors.


  Col3, are you military?  How did you get access to these medics?  Of course they would be upset if they were put in the "going to die pile"--but, they WERE JUST DOING A DRILL, THE SATURDAY BEFORE, RIGHT?

  In the Forrest Gump movie, Forrest rescues them all because it's a movie.  In real life, he would have left the ones that he thought were going to die.

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  TRIAGE--–noun
1.   the process of sorting victims, as of a battle or disaster, to determine medical priority in order to increase the number of survivors.


  Col3, are you military?  How did you get access to these medics?  Of course they would be upset if they were put in the "going to die pile"--but, they WERE JUST DOING A DRILL, THE SATURDAY BEFORE, RIGHT?

  In the Forrest Gump movie, Forrest rescues them all because it's a movie.  In real life, he would have left the ones that he thought were going to die.


THERE WAS A TRIAGE TRAINING EXERCISE A WEEK BEFORE THE FALSE FLAG?

WTF?

FOR REAL?!?!?!?!
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THERE WAS A TRIAGE TRAINING EXERCISE A WEEK BEFORE THE FALSE FLAG?

WTF?

FOR REAL?!?!?!?!

Sane,  I can't really decipher what Col3 was saying. 
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It appears that he talked to them earlier and they did triage training at some point.  I wouldn't say that Saturday but who knows.  When I was in the military as a doctor we did triage training. 

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Sane,  I can't really decipher what Col3 was saying. 

It appears that he talked to them earlier and they did triage training at some point.  I wouldn't say that Saturday but who knows.  When I was in the military as a doctor we did triage training. 

was it often? about how many times a year would you think and about how many people involved?
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  Twice a year.  I was in the 15 Medical Bataliion,  1st Cavalry Division AT FT. HOOD.  It was back in the 80's.  Depending on the scenario there would be 20 to 50 people.  War simulations.  The highest ranking medical professional would do the triaging.  If not an MD a dentist, if not a dentist an RN,  if not an RN maybe a medic---the person with the most knowledge that was available as the fake patients came in by jeep or helicopter.  A lot like the tv show MASH but without the comedy.

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The medics I spoke to most definitely were NOT doing triage training the Saturday before.  However, the way they were talking, it seemed very fresh on their minds, as if it was the Friday before.   I thought nothing of it--they were about to deploy.  You train before you deploy.

What WAS ironic, though, was how soon these green troops were already doing triage for real exactly a week later.  It never occurred to me that it may be a little TOO ironic.  

I say that to address Tarpley's point about this operation being some kind of crackdown on mutinous troops.   To me, they seemed critical, but I thought it was understandable and nothing out of the ordinary.   OTOH what they were critical of didn't seem particularly unusual, either.  The only thing unusual might have been that they were critical of their commanders at all.

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The medics I spoke to most definitely were NOT doing triage training the Saturday before.  However, the way they were talking, it seemed very fresh on their minds, as if it was the Friday before.   I thought nothing of it--they were about to deploy.  You train before you deploy.

What WAS ironic, though, was how soon these green troops were already doing triage for real exactly a week later.  It never occurred to me that it may be a little TOO ironic.  

I say that to address Tarpley's point about this operation being some kind of crackdown on mutinous troops.   To me, they seemed critical, but I thought it was understandable and nothing out of the ordinary.   OTOH what they were critical of didn't seem particularly unusual, either.  The only thing unusual might have been that they were critical of their commanders at all.


HE DID NOT SAY THAT, HE WAS ADDRESSING A WHISPERED INTERNET RUMOR!

HE WAS TRYING TO BRING CLARITY TO THE  INSANE RUMORS GOING AROUND!
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HE DID NOT SAY THAT, HE WAS ADDRESSING A WHISPERED INTERNET RUMOR!

HE WAS TRYING TO BRING CLARITY TO THE  INSANE RUMORS GOING AROUND!

Indeed, this was one of three mass media scenarios that Tarpley was offering an alternative to.

Tarpley has, once again, provided heavyweight analysis and historical parallels essential to understanding the anatomy of a false flag.

He summarises the essay on his excellent weekly show which can be found here commercial free.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5162816

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His supervisors at Walter Reed had even reprimanded him for telling at least one patient that "Islam can save your soul." Hasan
spent six years as a psychiatrist at Walter Reed, beginning in 2003, and he had a
fellowship at USUHS
until shortly before he went to Fort Hood in the summer of 2009.

How many PTSD / maimed for life patients commited suicide due to this MK psycho maniac? We probably will never know.

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U.S. dying to prosecute Hasan
http://www.infowars.com/u-s-dying-to-prosecute-hasan/
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The White House went ahead on November 12th, according to the 11/13/09 Washington Post, and charged Major Nidal M. Hasan with 13 counts of murder. It also reported that “Hasan has not cooperated with federal investigators seeking to interview him. His attorney, retired Col. John Galligan, told the Associated Press that military officials charged Hasan in the hospital without his Army lawyers present.”   
   
   
   Using the press to prosecute before any full investigation has been made.
   


He went on to say, “What I find disturbing is that my client is in ICU, and he’s 150 miles south of his defense counsel, and he’s being served with the charges. Given his status as a patient, I’m troubled by this procedure and that I’m not there. I’m in the dark, and that shouldn’t be the case. I am mad.” It would seem the military officials are violating the rights of the accused.

Also, the WP states that “Guy Womack, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who practices military law in Houston, said Hasan’s defense counsel probably will argue that Hasan was mentally unstable at the time of the shootings.”

He added, “’The defense argument will be that Major Hasan knew that he would be identified, he knew that he would be captured, and he did it anyway, so clearly he was insane, that his mental defect was so severe that he couldn’t control his actions from right and wrong,’ Womack said.”

That also seems a little premature, especially from a lawyer. Using the press to prosecute before any full investigation has been made.

Again, what happened to that article from CNN that I mentioned in my article Major Nidal Malik Hasan, jihadist or patsy? Again, here is the quote, “(CNN) — A senior officer who was playing golf Thursday near Fort Hood, Texas, told CNN he witnessed the arrest of one of the two surviving suspects of the shooting at the Army installation.

“’Shortly after the shooting,’ the officer said, ‘military police told him to clear the course and he saw other MPs surround the building that held the golf carts.’ The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.

“He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.” They found no bomb.

“He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter. The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.” And who was the soldier in battle dress uniform? Who is the other suspect? Who was the MP? And where are they now? Answer the questions, please, somebody.

Additionally, the Washington Post states, now “Investigators say they think he [Hasan] was the only gunman [the classic lone gunman overnight]…” Why? In another place, Christopher Grey, a spokesman for the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division and for the joint task force investigating the crime, “left open the possibility that someone else may have helped instigate the attack [Who?]. He said military prosecutors may charge Hasan with additional crimes.” But in fact, Hasan plus two other military men were originally all held as the shooters on the day of the shooting, 11/5/09. Later, the two were released. Yet it begs the question, who shot the four SWAT police if Hasan was still sprawled on the transit hall floor with four bullets in him, nearly dead?

Beyond that, the Post’s story gets even stranger. In the section sub-headed “Ending the shooting,’ Grey declined to specify who did what in the exchange of fire. Saying those details must wait until the evidence is analyzed.”

Yet on Wednesday we have a television interview with Oprah no less, talking with Senior Sgt. Police officer Mark Todd, who was described: “approaching Hasan’s prone body, kicking his weapon and handcuffing him.” Todd was one of two police persons that allegedly brought down Hasan. He also told Oprah, “We’re trained to shoot until there is no longer a threat… And once he was lying down on his back, his weapon just fell into [out of?] his hand and I’m like, ‘Okay, now’s the time to rush him and secure him.’”

The other police person was Sgt. Kimberly Munley, who was wounded. As the Washington Post described her NBC Today Show appearance, “Munley, sitting in a wheelchair with a blanket on her legs…said the knowledge that so many were killed ‘was devastating.’” She added, “I wish that we would have gotten there faster, to prevent any lives from being lost,’ with tears in her eyes, ‘Because I know there’s a lot of families out there suffering right now….I just wish the call would have came even quicker.” So do we all.

Drill or real event?

These quotes also open up another can of worms, noted by Webster Tarpley in his Nidal Malik Hasan of Virginia Tech, Bethesda, and Fort Hood: A Major Patsy in a Drill Gone Live? His subhead states that “Troops thought it was a drill – did Major Hasan think so too?” This is reminiscent of 9/11 air controllers and pilots, questioning if the 9/11 attack was a drill or real. Tarpley writes (on page 3) that “Many of them [the troops] are on record agreeing that the events of November 5 were initially interpreted by those on the scene as an exercise, as a drill…”

Tarpley quotes an ABC report of the following testimony: “Soldier Keara Bono told “Good Morning America” today that she initially thought the scene of Hasan standing up, praising Allah and starting to fire was a drill. She didn’t believe it was real even when she felt her own blood, she said. ‘Then I looked to my left and right and I saw people that were bleeding,’ she said. That’s when Bono realized that Hasan’s rampage wasn’t a drill [bold face, Tarpley’s).

In the middle of all this, we now have President Obama ordering “an immediate analysis of all intelligence about Hasan…and asking his top homeland security and counter-terrorism official to oversee the inquiry and to report back at the end of the month.”

Obama’s order re the unfortunate killing of 13 soldiers at Fort Hood also reminds us of the exposure and vulnerability of those soldiers, sick from over deployment and other stresses at that Army base. Too often they’re patched up and sent out again.

In an interview on CNN, General Casey admitted that they could not keep up with the increasing need for help for the many soldiers suffering from PTSD, increasing suicide rates, et al. But instead of the interviewer suggesting that perhaps ending the war in Afghanistan would solve the problems, he spoke of creating special training units to help the men deal with the realities of war. As a reader suggested, “To me this means teaching them how to kill without guilt, refrain from questioning their missions (which many are) and generally creating automatons (as the Nazis in Germany). And are you a liability if you fall apart?”

Meanwhile, Obama is still mulling over how many troops to send to Afghanistan regardless of increasing advice to get out. So, who are the real crazies in this tableau representing the "true patriots" defending our country's interests and giving military advice for decision-making to our increasingly lost-in-the clouds president?

It will be extremely dangerous to continue in Afghanistan when we don't have the means for taking care of the urgent domestic needs in the U.S. and more disturbing, allowing the worst military extremists to dictate American “policy.” And of course, there is always an oil pipeline to be considered and the money being currently raked in from poppy growing which is going to the occupiers.

Obama's speech at Ft. Hood was in fact a jarring indicator of his personal priorities, using the tragedy to emphasize the military as solution to our problems and an emphasis on might makes right, etc. which points the way to his decisions about Afghanistan and other problem areas. This may make the need for a swift prosecution of Hasan more pressing.

Obama’s actions came after Rep. Peter Hoekstra (Mich.), “top Republican on the House intelligence committee,” the Post reports, “said the review may suggest ‘a failure to connect the dots.” He also “called for a similar review.” This was due to “The failure to brief [members of Congress] on Saturday raise[ing] red flags …that the intelligence community had done a lot of information-gathering that they felt uncomfortable sharing with Congress—not because it was an incomplete package, but that it would raise questions that they might not have been ready to answer.” This too is very reminiscent of 9/11, a refusal by agencies to communicate with themselves and Congress, before, during and after the horrific event.
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Hoekstra then stepped into never-never-land, saying that sources beyond the intelligence community told him “Hasan had wired money to and communicated with people in Pakistan. He said he “didn’t know what the transfers were…” But he did say, “It could simply be innocent money transfers, who knows, for earthquake relief,” adding he had not been able to verify the allegation, ‘But the sources were pretty good.” Pretty good? Hasan’s life hangs in the balance as still another inference of alliances with Mid-Eastern powers [we are threatening] are being made.

The relevant side bar

On nearby fronts, the New York Times ran the article, Key 9/11 Suspect to Be Tried in New York. That would be the forlorn Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-named mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, who has been cooling his heels in Gitmo for several years, and who is probably ready to confess to planning Pearl Harbor and the sinking of the Maine. Four others accused of being in the plot will be prosecuted in New York City’s federal court as well. What follows from the Times is the real kicker…

“The decisions about how to prosecute Mr. Mohammed and Mr. Nashiri have been particularly difficult because their defense lawyers are expected to argue that they were illegally tortured by the Central Intelligence Agency during their confinement, tainting any evidence gathered from their interrogations. The Bush administration later sent a so-called ‘clean team’ to re-question the prisoners in preparations for military commission trials.” A “clean team?” Did that include Procter and Gamble’s original “Mr. Clean?” Pardon the levity but it’s induced by stretching belief like an old rubber band. It snaps.

The Times’ key paragraph states, “Documents have shown that the C.I.A. used waterboarding — a controlled drowning technique — against Mr. Mohammed 183 times in March 2003. Mr. Nashiri is one of two other detainees known to have been waterboarded before the Bush administration shut down the program, which high-level officials had approved after the Justice Department wrote legal memorandums arguing that the president, as commander in chief, could authorize interrogators to bypass antitorture laws.”

“Arguing that the president…could authorize interrogators to bypass antitorture laws,” and basically do whatever he pleased and have US citizens and the victims swallow it. That’s all I will say about this. Except that it’s this kind of madness that Hasan, whether he’s guilty, crazy, neither or both, may be facing in the near future, if he’s lucky enough to survive his hospital stay, and not be visited by a contemporary Jack Ruby, citizen gangster.

I leave the Times article to you, reader, to peruse and reach your own conclusions about our own voids in justice. Dying to prosecute these long-held prisoners at this time adds still another layer of purported Muslim madness to fairly prosecuting the short-lived Hasan case. There are no coincidences in these affairs, only intentional happenings. I hope that in the “rush to judgment” that both justice and the real truth are not the victims as well.

More scenarios

Another reader, Glenn Dormer, writing under the penname “mouser,” sent me his article from the Daily Paul, Fort Hood was a false flag by CIA/Mossad, Hasan is the patsy. Dormer has given me permission to print his full piece, which, though out of the box, is worth airing: “There were two stories running parallel on the day of the shooting. The true story leaking out over the internet via e-mail, telephones, twitter, and the ‘official story’ being planted in sequence at ABC, NBC, CBS and AP.

“That’s why there was a mixture of information, honest misinformation and planted disinformation. 24 hours later everything had been boiled down to the ‘official story’ where a single crazed Muslim gunman killed 13 and wounds 31.

“The plants and spins give this away to be a full-out false flag. This is evidenced by the ‘bogus suicide grenade-bomb article’ being written and planted WEEKS BEFORE the 5 November 2009 and then ‘found’ four hours after the shooting and RELEASED to AP (when the FBI believed Hasan was already dead). The spun Rambo female police gunfire take-down. The spun terrorist Imam ‘electronic’ connection to Yemeni. The spun Al-Qaida connection. The spun 9/11 terrorist connection. Please, do not believe any of those lies.”

He purports that, “Hasan was laying on the transit hall floor with four bullets in him when the real gunmen (government agents – likely CIA/Mossad based on prior 9/11 experience) made their escape and shot several SWAT and civil police before being apprehended and then released.”

He also purports that “The real shooters were dressed in army fatigues; they pumped Hasan with 4 bullets and believed him to be totally dead. One of the real gunmen may have been shot and killed during their escape. The real gunmen who escaped were apprehended and then released back into the hands of the CIA.

“What do you think Hasan (if he isn’t suicided instead) will say – that he is a member of Al-Qaida and that he did it because he hates America’s freedoms? This was a false flag by CIA/Mossad just like 9/11 to garner further support for the exploitative and genocidal wars in middle eastern Muslim countries and to prepare the public for the unprovoked coming invasion of MUSLIM Iran by US and Israel to force Iran to accept a Rothschildean controlled central bank, as was done a few years ago to Iraq.

“In summary, Hasan did not fire a single shot, he did not even hold a gun on Thursday 5 November 2009 in Fort Hood.” Whether or not this article pushes the envelope of believability, it is within the realm of possibility. We have come to understand that fact from previous false-flag operations and assassination attempts.

In fact, another reader, who desires anonymity writes ”Snap judgment: Hasan was (a) shooter. We havent seen forensic evidence linking all the rounds fired to Hasan’s gun, and Hasan’s gun to Hasan’s hands. Any other rounds from other guns fired, either friendlies or ’suspects’? No one is talking.” The reader goes on suggest…

”Pure patsy? Unlikely. Shooting down of Hasan by Ft Hood cop Todd implies a spontaneous event, and that Hasan was engaging as a shooter. But 100+ rounds fired off from two handguns, even with 15-20 round clips?

”My curiosity — the much-ballyhooed ‘al Qaeda’ angle to Hasan. Who is this mysterious Imam Anwar al-Awlaki?

”…from a Facebook post:

…”The ‘radical imam’ Anwar al-Awlaki— who is pictured in classic al Qaeda fiery cleric gear, plus obligatory glasses plus beard, is linked by email and mosque to Major Hasan, is born in New Mexico, an American of Yemeni descent (unclear if Yemeni Arab, Jewish, or other); lived in VA & was caught transporting hookers from DC to his home in Virginia, (Mann Act violation, observed by Federal agents in 90s!), implying surveillance already.

”Awlaki shows up as a handler of San Diego-based ‘9/11 hijackers’ Alhamzi & Al-Midhar, making phone calls to their first Clairemont [apartments’] landlord, preaching at Rabat mosque near their second lemon grove/La mesa housing spot.

”Then he moves to Falls Church in late 2000, where he preaches in the Dar al-Hajrah mosque ‘frequented by Alhamzi &Midhar’ – and Hasan – 9/11 happens — (see link below); al-Awlaki departs to Yemen & returns to US as he pleases in fall 2002, above…despite all of the above…

*(True, Awlaki was briefly detained on re-entry in 2002 based on his flags, but despite tight connections with alleged hijackers, the order to arrest rescinded.)

“The restricted database log shows that Aulaqi was released from custody at JFK International Airport after agents there got word from D.C. that an arrest warrant for him ‘had been pulled back’ the day before he arrived.” Later, American Awlaki moved to London then to Yemen permanently. Never called or questioned by 9/11 Commission. Makes sense, right?

”Take-home message? Hasan is kept as a pawn and patsy-watcher on the chess board, despite ‘warning signs’. Awlaki is moved around like a ‘Bishop’, supporting roles everywhere. Useful for 9/11 mythology, critical for Hasan legend.” I couldn’t agree more on that last point.


*http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/12/inside-the-ring-31336833/

My thanks to the three readers for allowing me to print their comments. Misspelling of names and minor grammatical errors were corrected. Nevertheless it seems the process of justice has not been corrected. We are left with the notion of a scripted and orchestrated event to cultivate and utilize Muslim patsies as the dominant theme in a complex op, as complex as media, government, and the military can make it, to keep the Mid-East hostilities going and America worrying as it sinks in ever deepening debt.
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2009, 08:11:56 pm »
I'm listening to Tarpley's rebroadcast now.  He's a lot like Jones, and Jones has picked up a lot from him, but they're on opposite ends of the liberal/conservative spectrum.  Tarpley's older and has a lifetime of learning over Jones, but Tarpley is naive, I think.  He'll call 9/11 an inside job, but then he thinks politicians can set the economy right.  Just ban the bankers and put this and that legislation in place...naive.  Jones is more realistic on the motives driving the destruction of America. 

But they're both informative.

I was going to post the Tarpley thing, so I'm glad I saw this thread.  Copy and paste from dailypaul.com.  Looks like the longest thing I've ever pasted, but it's worth the read:

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/114756

HASAN IS A FALSE FLAG PATSY

The following is an abbreviated version of W.Tarpley's article about the Fort Hood false flag which appeared 20091114 at Jeff Rense's site.

"...the role of drills and exercises which are hijacked and turned into real-world terror attacks. In order to understand the Fort Hood massacre, it is indispensable to apply this method here as well.

TROOPS THOUGHT IT WAS A DRILL ­ DID MAJOR HASAN THINK SO TOO?

In investigations like this, it is generally a great mistake to fixate on the scapegoat dished up by the mass media. The more we focus on the Oswald of the day, the less we understand of what actually happened. Let us turn away from the TV pundits, and listen instead to the eyewitness testimony of the troops who were present at the shootings. Many of them are on record agreeing that the events of November 5 were initially interpreted by those on the scene as an exercise, as a drill. Emphasis will be added to bring out this central fact.

From ABC News we get the following testimony: Solider Keara Bono 'told "Good Morning America" today that she initially thought the scene of Hasan standing up, praising Allah and starting to fire was a drill. She didn't believe it was real even when she felt her own blood, she said. "Then I looked to my left and right and I saw people that were bleeding," she said. That's when Bono realized that Hasan's rampage wasn't a drill.' (ABC News GMA)

In the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel of 9 November 2009 we find: "Pfc. Amber Bahr of Random Lake [ Wisconsin ] heard someone yelling and ducked at the sound of gunfire, but she said she thought supervisors at Fort Hood were holding a drill last Thursday. She didn't know she was under live fire until she heard people screaming." This story was based on an interview given to NBC's Today show.

CBS News reported: "Two days after narrowly escaping death at Fort Hood and just hours after his release from the hospital, Corporal Nathan Hewitt still can't believe what happened was real. The survivor spoke to CBS News Correspondent Don Teague about those fateful minutes. Even after being shot, Hewitt didn't believe what was happening. He thought the gunfire was a training exercise and that he'd been hit by a rubber bullet. He says other victims thought the same thing."

ABC newsman Bob Woodruff found further corroboration of this general impression when he was allowed to interview shooting victims who were recovering in the hospital: "For many of the 43 people wounded when an Army psychiatrist allegedly went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, the scene was unreal -- it seemed like something out of a movie. Maybe it was a drill. .Capt. Dorrie Carskadon, a combat stress specialist from Wisconsin , who was at Fort Hood training for a deployment to Afghanistan , said she initially thought the shooting was a drill." Notice that this testimony comes from a field grade officer, a captain.

The Austin television station KXAN provides the following evidence: 'Spc. Scott Hamrick and First Sergeant James McLeod made it out of the Soldier Readiness Processing Center alive after some maneuvering to get away from the suspect, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. "My initial thought is that it was a drill," said Hamrick. "Because you know you're always getting drilled for situations." However, what Hamrick thought was a drill turned out to be something closer to war at home.'

The Miami Herald furnished this account: 'For Skip Blancett, the senior pastor at the First United Methodist Church of Killeen, news of the shooting left him anguishing for hours because his daughter, Hollye Davis, was at a building next door to where the gunman started firing. She and others were in lockdown for hours. Without a cellphone, she couldn't call home. "They had no idea what was going on; everyone thought it was a drill at first,'' Blancett said.'

The idea that the shooting was part of a drill or exercise was so widespread that it had to be expressly countered in the first emergency announcement posted on the Fort Hood web site, which read: "Effective immediately. Fort Hood is closed. Organizations/units are instructed to execute a 100 per cent accountability of all personnel. This is not a drill. It is an emergency situation."

Based on this testimony, it seems clear that unannounced, surprise terror drills are standard operating procedure at Fort Hood and probably other military bases as well. They are frequent enough to be the first thing many soldiers, including at least one officer, thought was happening. Drills are designed to be as realistic as possible. But the acme of realism is reality ­ real killing, which can occur through small but decisive changes in the unfolding of the drill. We may therefore be dealing here with a drill which has been taken live or flipped live, as so often happens in terror incidents.

This array of evidence allows us to pose the following question: If so many of the Army personnel on the scene thought at first that the incident was a drill, did Major Hasan also think he was attending a drill? Did he imagine that he was going to be an actor playing the assigned role of a member of the terrorist red team in a realistic exercise? In other words, was this inept, troubled and quasi-psychotic individual somehow under the impression that he was attending an officially sanctioned exercise of some routine type, until real bullets began to be fired by other more qualified shooters, thus taking the drill live? This might also help us to account for the extraordinary intensity of firing at the scene ­ well over 100 rounds. For this working hypothesis to stand up, we would have to show that there were other gunmen firing ­ gunmen who knew that the drill was turning into a real massacre. The additional shooters would according to the classification referred to above represent the technicians in this action ­ the trained killers who have the ability to do the things that the patsy is accused of doing. Interestingly enough, extra gunmen are exactly what we find.

ONE SHOOTER, OR THREE?

How many shooters were there? Early reports indicated that there were at least one, and perhaps two, in addition to Major Hasan. Dow Jones newswires reported at about 5 PM Eastern Time: "A second gunman is in custody after a shooting at the Army's Fort Hood in Texas in which at least seven people were killed and 12 wounded, reports KCEN-TV of Waco. The report comes about two hours after a first suspect was captured, shortly after gunfire broke out." According to the Dow Jones report cited, shooting had occurred in two separate locations on the Fort Hood base: "The incident reportedly began at Fort Hood 's theater and then moved to the Soldier Readiness Processing Center , Killeen City Public Information Officer Hillary Shine told Fox News." According to an AP wire, these facts were also announced by an official Army spokesman at the base: "The spokesman, Lieutenant Colonel Nathan Banks, says two shooters were apparently involved. There is no word yet on who they were, nor on identities of the dead. Banks says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base." Many of the embarrassing reports about multiple shooters have been purged after the fact from websites, but a few have survived, as in the case of this Wisconsin radio station, where we read that the triple assassin theory had been embraced by the commander of the base: "Newsradio 620 WTMJ: Lt. General Bob Cone at Fort Hood confirms 12 dead, 31 hurt in shooting. Soldier gunman killed. 2 others in custody." During the later afternoon, cable television talked of three shooters, and in the London Daily Mirror account we find: "Twelve people were killed and 31 wounded when three gunmen in uniform opened fire at the US Army's largest armoured base in Texas yesterday. One gunman was shot by civilian police and the two others held at Fort Hood ."

GEN. CONE BRINGS MAJOR HASAN BACK FROM THE DEAD AFTER 8 HOURS

It was only in the late evening that the official lone assassin version of these events was assembled in another press conference by General Cone held about eight hours after the shooting had started: " KILLEEN , Texas (KXAN/AP/MSNBC) - Twelve died and another 31 were hurt in a mass shooting on Fort Hood that stunned the nation on Thursday. Accused gunman Major Malik Nidal Hasan is alive and in stable condition, Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said at a Thursday evening news conference just outside the storied military post - the largest in the United States . Counter to initial reports, the 39-year-old psychiatrist - who was thought to be killed by local police - is hospitalized and not expected to die of multiple gunshots wounds sustained during the 1:30 p.m. attack. The local police officer who allegedly shot Hasan and injured him is in the hospital also in stable condition."

In the course of the day, we had thus gone from three shooters to only one. The separate shooting incident at the Howze theater on the post reported earlier had also been expunged in the process. Most remarkable of all was the ability of Major Hasan to come back from the dead after eight hours in which the world had been assured of his demise. Such resurrection is of course a physical impossibility for mere mortals. When individuals are alleged to have performed deeds which are physically impossible in the world as we know it, from Oswald's feats of shooting to Atta's (and Hani Hjanjour's) feats of flying, we must become suspicious that intelligence agencies are assisting the probable patsies in hidden ways. Major Hasan is said to have fired more than 100 rounds using the two pistols he is alleged to have carried. This seems like a lot of shooting for a single person surrounded by scores of trained combat veteran soldiers, even if these latter had not been carrying their usual weapons.

The categorical imperative for every patsy is to get noticed, and to call attention to himself or herself pointedly and repeatedly, by hook or by crook. They must stand out so much that they will be remembered by many ordinary people after the process of their demonization has been launched. In order to fulfill their function, patsies must leave a trail of clues and evidence which will tie themselves and the larger target group they supposedly represent to the heinous actions they will shortly be accused of having committed.

Major Hasan was suspected of having authored internet postings that compared suicide bombers with soldiers who throw themselves on hand grenades to save others, although here we must be cautious, since these postings could have been made by imposters. All accounts agree that witnesses heard a shout of "Allahu Akbar" just before the firing started. Less clear is whether these words were spoken by Major Hasan.

The categorical imperative for every mole is to protect the relevant patsies from investigation or arrest until the terror event has occurred and it is time to round the patsies up as scapegoats. The part about "We love death more then [sic] you love life!" is blatant ID format "Al Qaeda" speak, and in a military setting this speech would normally be more than enough to trigger a probing investigation into Major Hasan's activities and belief structure. But no serious consequences ensued, suggesting that Major Hasan was an asset who was being protected for the sake of some future mission which he was being groomed and prepared to perform.

But these reasons need to be supplemented with another possibility: that a witting mole (or moles) was shielding Major Hasan from any sanctions so he could go on to greater things as a witting or unwitting agent provocateur and patsy.

The impression that Major Hasan was in fact a protected patsy is strengthened by reports that he frequented mosques which have figured in previous intelligence operations, and that he was in contact with an American-born Muslim cleric now living in Yemen who currently plays the role of one of the most bombastic agent provocateurs operating under the umbrella designation of "al Qaeda."

Just after the Fort Hood massacre, Awlaki used his website for a bombastic endorsement of Major Hasan and the Texas slaughter, evidently designed with Pavlovian technique to goad Islamophobic US reactionaries into a frenzy and give the radio ogres much grist for their mill.

Here is the relevant report from the New York Times: 'Mr. Awlaki, an American citizen born in New Mexico to Yemeni parents, wrote on Monday on his English-language website that Mr. Hasan was "a hero." The cleric said, "He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people." He added, "The only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the U.S. Army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal."'This was a piece of crude manipulation, and at the same time an engraved invitation to an anti-Moslem pogrom.

The report went on: 'But since leaving the U.S. in 2002 for London , and later Yemen , Mr. Awlaki has become a prominent proponent of militant Islam via his Web site, www.anwar-alawlaki.com. The Toronto Star reported last month that a group of young Canadians charged with plotting attacks against military and government targets were inspired, in part, by listening to Mr. Awlaki's sermons online. In 2000 and 2001, Mr. Awlaki served as an imam at two mosques in the United States frequented by three future 9/11 hijackers. Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi attended the Rabat mosque in San Diego, where Mr. Awlaki later admitted meeting Hazmi several times but "claimed not to remember any specifics of what they discussed," according to the report of the national 9/11 commission. Both Hazmi and another hijacker, Hani Hanjour, later attended the Dar al Hijra mosque in Falls, Church, Virginia after Mr. Awlaki had moved there in early 2001. The 9/11 commission report expressed "suspicion" about the coincidence, but said its investigators were unable to find Mr. Awlaki in Yemen to question him.'

We should notice the nice plug given here to Awlaki's web site by the New York Times; his site traffic is sure to benefit enormously. Major Hasan had taken care to establish his devotion and fealty to Awlaki during the time leading up to the massacre. He left no doubt that he was a disciple of Awlaki: 'Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.'

Major Hasan, it transpired, had also been exchanging emails with the fiery double agent he so much lionized; the imam-provocateur had fled abroad after 9/11 and was now operating under "al Qaeda" cover from Yemen . According to one report: "two government officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case on the record, said the Washington-based joint terrorism task force overseen by the FBI was notified of communications between Hasan and a radical imam overseas, and the information was turned over to a Defense Criminal Investigative Service employee assigned to the task force. The communications were gathered by investigators beginning in December 2008 and continuing into early this year. That Defense investigator wrote up an assessment of Hasan after reviewing the communications and the Army major's personnel file, according to these officials. The assessment concluded Hasan did not merit further investigation - in large part because his communications with the imam were centered on a research paper about the effects of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and the investigator determined that Hasan was in fact working on such a paper, the officials said. The disclosure Tuesday of the defense investigator's role indicated that the U.S. military was aware of worrisome behavior by the massacre suspect long before the attack.

Just hours later, a senior defense official, also demanding anonymity, directly contradicted that notion. The senior defense official said neither the Army nor any other part of the Defense Department knew of Hasan's contacts with any Muslim extremists. Military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies also are defending themselves against tough questions about what each of them knew about Hasan before he allegedly opened fire in a crowded room at the huge military base in Texas ."

AWLAKI HELPED ENTRAP FORT DIX SIX, TORONTO DUPES

The decision of the Army to ignore Major Hasan's correspondence with Awlaki is all the more astounding given Awlaki's status as one of the premier terror impresarios of the age operating under Islamic fundamentalist cover. More than a mere ideologue, he is a recruiter and an entrepreneur of terror. His web site would not survive five minutes of concerted US cyber-attacks, but he is not disturbed in his role as a pied piper of patsies.

In particular, Awlaki and his work were used to motivate and encourage groups of mentally impaired and suggestible young dupes who were entrapped into "terrorist plots" by busy FBI and Canadian RCMP agents during recent years, thus keeping the boogey man of Islamic terrorism in the public eye. 'In addition to his contacts with Major Nidal Hasan, the radical American cleric, Anwar al Awlaki, served as an inspiration for men convicted in terror plots in Toronto and Fort Dix, New Jersey, according to government officials and court records reviewed by ABCNews.com.Despite his ties to other plots, including the one against the Army post at Fort Dix, some 20 e-mails between Awlaki and Major Hasan were dismissed as "innocent" by a military investigator working on the FBI's Joint Terror Task Force in Washington, D.C...."He is not just a proselytizer but someone who is operational, with deep and longstanding connections to al Qaeda and has been for some time," said a former senior American intelligence official who had access to classified information. Awlaki was characterized in court testimony as an inspiration by two of six Muslim immigrants convicted on conspiracy and other charges in a plot to kill U.S. military personnel at Fort Dix. In Toronto, members of the so-called Toronto 18 watched videos of Awlaki at a makeshift training camp where they allegedly planned an attack on the Canadian parliament and prime minister.'

YET ANOTHER DELIBERATE FBI SNAFU

Just as in the 9/11 instance, the scandalous failure to connect the dots and round up the patsies was due to the non-feasance and malfeasance of the FBI, the criminally negligent agency which, according to 9/11 commission co-chair Gov. Thomas Kean, "failed and failed and failed," but nevertheless escaped breakup after 9/11. Starting in 1996, the FBI had been aware that international terrorists were making a show of learning to fly passenger jets at U.S. flight schools, but took no action.

According to a press report, the failure to inform Major Hasan's superiors was the direct and specific responsibility of the FBI: "The Pentagon said it was never notified by US intelligence agencies that they had intercepted e-mails between of the alleged Fort Hood shooter and an extremist imam until after last week's bloody assaults, raising new questions about whether the government could have helped prevent the attack. a person familiar with the matter said a Pentagon worker on the terrorism task force overseen by the Federal Bureau of Investigation was told about the intercepted e-mails several months ago. But members of the terror task forces aren't allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get permission from the FBI, which leads the task force. In this case, the Pentagon worker, an employee from the Defense Criminal Investigations Service, helped make the assessment that Major Hasan wasn't a threat, and the FBI's 'procedures for sharing the information were never used,' said the person familiar with the matter."

Those involved in this decision by FBI and the Defense Department need to be probed as possible terror moles. This is reminiscent of the FBI's Dave Frasca, who could not assemble and act on the pre-9/11intelligence he had on his desk. This was a new chapter of the story of FBI sabotage told by Colleen Rowley and documented at the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui in 2006. If the FBI had rounded up the 9/11 patsies, the operation could not have occurred ­ not because the patsies were going to fly planes into buildings by themselves, but because the jailing of patsies before the fact would have made the targeting of the Moslem world impossible.

In this sense, the same FBI rogue networks which made 9/11 possible are still in place and still effectively sabotaging effective law enforcement.

MAJOR HASAN'S SECURITY CLEARANCE: SECRET

Major Hasan reportedly has a security clearance which allows him to receive secret information. All US Army officers are required to have at minimum a secret-level security clearance, and Major Hasan's clearance might even have been at the more stringent top secret level. All indications are that Major Hasan's clearance was never reviewed, despite his ostentatious antics. Perhaps the most direct evidence that Major Hasan was a protected patsy was the fact that he could make incendiary speeches and correspond with self-proclaimed "al Qaeda" firebrands without having his security clearance reviewed, to say nothing of lifted.

As a well informed Stratfor letter to the editor posting points out: "The contacting of a foreign Islamic militant who openly espouses killing of Americans is, in and of itself, is a violation of U.S. security regulations with respect to individuals with security clearances.

Hasan's foreign contact should have been reported through the chain-of- command to his commander. Lt. Gen. Cone, in consultation with his G-2, Counter-Intelligence Staff Officer, Personnel Security Officer and the CID, could have immediately suspended Maj. Hasan's security clearance subject to a local AR 15-6 investigation.

A minimally competent investigation would have uncovered other comments and actions that would probably have resulted in adverse command action on Maj. Hasan's security clearance and possibly led to charges being brought for conduct unbecoming an officer." But the usual rules were suspended for Majopr Hasan, indicating that he belonged to a special class of persons ­ patsies who were being groomed for future actions and therefore had to be kept out of trouble.

We cannot be optimistic that, should he survive, a future trial of Major Hasan will clear up these questions, any more than criminal trials established the real facts in the cases of Sirhan Sirhan, Hinckley, McVeigh, or John Allen Muhammad. What does appear confirmed as of now is the existence of a mutating model of terrorism alongside the large-scale 9/11 or WMD paradigms of false flag manipulation seen and propagandized during the last decade.

Will the American public ever learn to see through and reject false flag operations, as many Spaniards were able to do after the Madrid bombs? Will Americans ever swear off the dangerous habit of being duped? Will opinion leaders ever master the rather elementary methods of rogue network, false-flag terrorism? Until this occurs and the gullibility of the public is reduced, such operations are likely to continue on scales both small and large, with incalculable consequences for the future of humanity."

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Re: **Tarpley exposes the Fort Hood false flag**
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2009, 08:14:42 pm »


  Tarpley is the brain surgeon of talk radio.  He can dissect information like no one else.

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Re: **Tarpley exposes the Fort Hood false flag**
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2009, 09:07:16 pm »
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fae_1258418825

Accused Fort Hood Shooter Was a Regular at Shooting Range, Strip Club Nidal Hasan Also Spent Time with a Young Muslim Convert Who Considered Himself "Extremist"

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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2009, 09:15:56 pm »
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fae_1258418825

Accused Fort Hood Shooter Was a Regular at Shooting Range, Strip Club Nidal Hasan Also Spent Time with a Young Muslim Convert Who Considered Himself "Extremist"

 Wow that smacks of bullshit! I loved how the guy at the shooting range wouldnt talk to the reporters to verify the most likely contrived script the 'investigators say'. Also just like 9/11 the muslims in a strip club thing,lol, is that their code for 'this is a false flag'? Also at the strip club no girls interviewed either. Im not one to draw concrete conclusions but all smells fishy to me.

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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2009, 02:14:35 am »
Wow that smacks of bullshit! I loved how the guy at the shooting range wouldnt talk to the reporters to verify the most likely contrived script the 'investigators say'. Also just like 9/11 the muslims in a strip club thing,lol, is that their code for 'this is a false flag'? Also at the strip club no girls interviewed either. Im not one to draw concrete conclusions but all smells fishy to me.

all the anonymous and compromised sources are so wild.
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2009, 05:18:14 am »
13 vs. 2,000,000: Fort Hood Shootings a Shocker...

Why Not U.S. War Crimes?


by Ted Rall

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November 16, 2009

NEW YORK--American lives are worth a lot. So when Americans get killed, it's a big story. There are lots of editorials. Congressmen call for investigations. We want to find out what happened, why it happened, and how to make sure it never happens again.

The lives of foreigners, on the other hand, are pretty much worthless. Even when they die because Americans killed them, news accounts marking their deaths are short, sweet, and short-lived. Congressional investigations? No way. To the contrary! If anyone is inconsiderate enough to mention the killings of people overseas in a public forum, they get shouted down or simply ignored.

The massacre of 13 soldiers at an Army post in Texas earlier this week places this dichotomy in sharp relief.

The FBI is already helping Army investigators. In addition, Senator Joe Lieberman has announced that his Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee will launch a full investigation into "every angle" of the shooting, including the motives of the suspect and whether or not government eavesdroppers could have prevented it by notifying Army officials of his contacts with a radical Muslim cleric. Over in the House, Representative Silvestre Reyes, a Texas Democrat, has summoned national intelligence director Dennis Blair to answer questions about Fort Hood before the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

But wait--there's more. "Other committees may also launch investigations into how the Army missed warning signs about the accused," reports The Politico.

All sorts of hands are being wrung.

Major Hasan, an army psychiatrist, ministered to victims of post-traumatic stress syndrome who told him terrible stories about combat in Afghanistan and Iraq. Should someone have helped him cope too?

Ordered to deploy to the war zone, he asked not to go--and was refused. Should the Army be more flexible?

Is it reasonable to ask a religious Muslim to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq, wars where he would be asked to kill his coreligionists?

Then there are the phone taps. "U.S. military officials said intelligence agencies intercepted communications between Hasan and Anwar al-Awlaki, a former imam at the Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Virginia, a Washington suburb," reported CNN. "Al-Awlaki, who left the United States in 2002 and is believed to be living in Yemen, was the subject of several federal investigations dating back to the late 1990s, but was never charged." As jihadis do at the start of an attack, Hasan reportedly cried "Allahu Akbar" before opening fire. Shouldn't someone have noticed that the nice shrink with the dopey smile had become a radical Islamist?

The shock, grief and soul-searching are all reasonable reactions to a brutal and tragic event. But it's not hard to imagine how it looks to the outside world. While the media and public obsess over the deaths of 13 fellow Americans, they ignore the deaths of hundreds of thousands of foreigners.

The American military has killed roughly two million people in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2001. Those attacks were illegal--no declaration of war, no UN mandate--and are largely recognized as such by the American public. Many of the victims were killed with chemical and radioactive weapons, and some while under torture. In other words, these are crimes--some of the biggest mass murders in human history.

There are no angry editorials. The illegal wars, instead of being brought to an end, are being ramped up. The crimes--yes, including the torture--continues. But it's OK--as long as it doesn't happen here in the United States. It's OK to rain death on Pakistanis using drone planes...gotta spare those precious American lives!

Mass murder is shocking when the victims are Americans; it's doubly shocking when it happens in America.

Thirteen soldiers die in Texas and it's all we talk about. Two million die in Afghanistan and Iraq and we don't notice and we don't even want to hear about it. Only 12 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 can find Afghanistan on a map.

The punk band T.S.O.L. wrote the soundtrack to this attitude a quarter-century ago: "We live in the American zone/Free of fear in our American home/Swimming pool and digital phone."

Still wondering why they hate us?


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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2009, 05:51:40 am »
13 vs. 2,000,000: Fort Hood Shootings a Shocker...

Why Not U.S. War Crimes?


by Ted Rall

http://uruknet.com/index.php?p=m60144&hd=&size=1&l=e

November 16, 2009

NEW YORK--American lives are worth a lot. So when Americans get killed, it's a big story. There are lots of editorials. Congressmen call for investigations. We want to find out what happened, why it happened, and how to make sure it never happens again.

The lives of foreigners, on the other hand, are pretty much worthless. Even when they die because Americans killed them, news accounts marking their deaths are short, sweet, and short-lived. Congressional investigations? No way. To the contrary! If anyone is inconsiderate enough to mention the killings of people overseas in a public forum, they get shouted down or simply ignored.

The massacre of 13 soldiers at an Army post in Texas earlier this week places this dichotomy in sharp relief.

The FBI is already helping Army investigators. In addition, Senator Joe Lieberman has announced that his Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee will launch a full investigation into "every angle" of the shooting, including the motives of the suspect and whether or not government eavesdroppers could have prevented it by notifying Army officials of his contacts with a radical Muslim cleric. Over in the House, Representative Silvestre Reyes, a Texas Democrat, has summoned national intelligence director Dennis Blair to answer questions about Fort Hood before the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

But wait--there's more. "Other committees may also launch investigations into how the Army missed warning signs about the accused," reports The Politico.

All sorts of hands are being wrung.

Major Hasan, an army psychiatrist, ministered to victims of post-traumatic stress syndrome who told him terrible stories about combat in Afghanistan and Iraq. Should someone have helped him cope too?

Ordered to deploy to the war zone, he asked not to go--and was refused. Should the Army be more flexible?

Is it reasonable to ask a religious Muslim to deploy to Afghanistan or Iraq, wars where he would be asked to kill his coreligionists?

Then there are the phone taps. "U.S. military officials said intelligence agencies intercepted communications between Hasan and Anwar al-Awlaki, a former imam at the Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Virginia, a Washington suburb," reported CNN. "Al-Awlaki, who left the United States in 2002 and is believed to be living in Yemen, was the subject of several federal investigations dating back to the late 1990s, but was never charged." As jihadis do at the start of an attack, Hasan reportedly cried "Allahu Akbar" before opening fire. Shouldn't someone have noticed that the nice shrink with the dopey smile had become a radical Islamist?

The shock, grief and soul-searching are all reasonable reactions to a brutal and tragic event. But it's not hard to imagine how it looks to the outside world. While the media and public obsess over the deaths of 13 fellow Americans, they ignore the deaths of hundreds of thousands of foreigners.

The American military has killed roughly two million people in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2001. Those attacks were illegal--no declaration of war, no UN mandate--and are largely recognized as such by the American public. Many of the victims were killed with chemical and radioactive weapons, and some while under torture. In other words, these are crimes--some of the biggest mass murders in human history.

There are no angry editorials. The illegal wars, instead of being brought to an end, are being ramped up. The crimes--yes, including the torture--continues. But it's OK--as long as it doesn't happen here in the United States. It's OK to rain death on Pakistanis using drone planes...gotta spare those precious American lives!

Mass murder is shocking when the victims are Americans; it's doubly shocking when it happens in America.

Thirteen soldiers die in Texas and it's all we talk about. Two million die in Afghanistan and Iraq and we don't notice and we don't even want to hear about it. Only 12 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 can find Afghanistan on a map.

The punk band T.S.O.L. wrote the soundtrack to this attitude a quarter-century ago: "We live in the American zone/Free of fear in our American home/Swimming pool and digital phone."

Still wondering why they hate us?


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more bullshit hegelian dialectic pushing people into 2 camps...

Either you are against the illegal wars (and you have sympathy for terrorists) or you are against the terrorists (and you supprt the illegal wars).

Both sides are bullshit traps.

THIS WAS A FALSE FLAG ATTACK. ONE PERSON DID NOT DO THIS.

THEY HAVE CONFISCATED ALL EVIDENCE, INTIMIDATED ALL WITNESSES, LAID OUT THE NARRATIVE EVEN THOUGH  IT IS FALLING APART BEFORE OUR VERY EYES.
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Re: **Tarpley exposes the Fort Hood false flag**
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2009, 06:29:04 am »
Tarpley breaks down the Fort Hood false flag like no-one else has. On his weekly radio show this week Tarpley explains how Hassan is a classic patsy a la Oswald and Atta, how the soldiers on base thought it was a drill, how there were multiple shooters...and so on.

This is a must listen, get it from the GCN podcasts (11/14) or commercial free from this torrent:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5162816

That link to Tarpley's show didnt agree with my PC, I'm listening from the GCN sight.  Thanks for posting though. 
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2009, 08:27:54 pm »
About the confusion of the number of shooters at first, Remember this?

http://www.time.com/time/2003/invenhttp://img.timeinc.net/time/2003/inventions



I remember hearing rumors of 5th group experimenting with these when I was at Ft Campbell.
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2009, 09:14:02 pm »


Condemnation without investigation is the heart of ingorence.
I like that.
PROBLEM: The great majority will want this gift packaged and simple, lone muslim gunman kills American soldiers. The news media will push this, the military, the FBI will take the heat as they have been scripted before hand, perhaps a few innocents will be fired, maby a court martial for some slobs on high who openly disregarded the lonegunmans ramblings. Etc. Etc.

I'm suprised they didn't simply kill him, a two tap, but then again they have gone beyond the point of not caring what they do. They run the show, and the sheeple tag along. Afterall they have the headlines and talking heads at work, plus they can spin this matter hopwever they wish to, they have the juice. How ,many different reports have been made to date, I stoped counting!

As a nation we learned nothing from the 3k's being assassinated, nor did we from the farce in Vietnam, or the WMD's in Iraq, and on and on.

Bye Bye miss American pie, thats about 40 years past for those of you were not around .
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2009, 09:37:37 pm »
FULL PENTAGON REVIEW OF HASAN, FULL PENTAGON COVERUP OF THE ACTUAL EVENTS OF FORT HOOD MASSACRE!


Fort Hood slayings prompt full Pentagon review
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091117/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_fort_hood_shooting
By ANNE GEARAN and PAULINE JELINEK, Associated Press Writer
Tue Nov 17, 6:22 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Worried that the Army may have missed red flags about the alleged shooter in the Fort Hood massacre, the Pentagon will likely launch an inquiry into how all the military services keep watch on other volatile soldiers hidden in their ranks, officials said Tuesday.

The probe, still in the planning stages, would be a broad examination ranging beyond the specific case of Army psychiatrist Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan, officials said. The inquiry, they said, could look at personnel policies and the availability of mental health services for troubled troops.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates wants a unified probe that goes beyond the Army, but has not decided how far-reaching the inquiry would be or who would lead it, Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell said Tuesday.

"There are issues that need to be looked at department-wide, and the focus at this point is trying to figure out some of these questions," Morrell said.

The Army's No. 2 officer bluntly said Tuesday that officials fear more people like Hasan may be undetected inside the armed forces.

"I think we always have to be concerned about that," Army Vice-Chief of Staff Peter Chiarelli said as he outlined separate efforts to curb rising suicide rates in the Army. The service has been the combat force most affected by the stress of fighting two wars.

The Army has been preparing for its own examination of what went wrong in the Hasan case and ways to prevent a similar attack. That probe could stand alone or be part of a larger inquiry.

Hasan apparently slipped through cracks in the Army's personnel and mental health systems, keeping his job and readying for overseas deployment to Afghanistan even though aspects of his behavior and statements had alarmed co-workers and others.

Hasan, an Army major, is accused of killing 13 people when he opened fire Nov. 5 on mostly unarmed soldiers and civilians at the Texas base. He is charged with murder and is expected to be tried in a military court.

Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey had said that the service would take a hard look at itself following the deaths.

Any inquiry would have to be careful not to overlap the criminal investigation and legal case against Hasan.

Chiarelli said the Army has begun collecting information that would go into the investigation. He would not discuss the probe beyond that, but said the Army is trying to keep better tabs on mental health and improve services for the mentally ill or troubled.

The investigation would consider some questions Morrell described as immediate, although he would not be specific, and some he said will take longer to frame and sort through.

Another official said there will be a speedy look at whether the military has missed danger signs in other cases. Still, another said, one possibility would be to bring in outsiders to examine practices and safeguards. Those officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still being organized.

Two military officials said Tuesday that Casey is looking at forming an investigative panel. It would look at Hasan as a whole, his career development and at what point someone should have or might have raised an alarm, one of the officials said.

The proposed Army probe would focus on Hasan's six years at Washington's Walter Reed Medical Center, where he worked as a psychiatrist before he was transferred to Fort Hood in July, one said.

The doctors who oversaw Hasan's medical training had discussed at a meeting concerns about Hasan's overly zealous religious views and strange behavior months before the attack, a military official told The Associated Press last week.

Hasan also was characterized as a mediocre student and lazy worker, but the doctors saw no evidence that he was violent or a threat. The military official spoke on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to speak publicly about the meeting.

The FBI learned late last year of Hasan's repeated contact with a radical Muslim cleric in Yemen who encouraged Muslims to kill U.S. troops in Iraq. President Barack Obama already has ordered a review of all intelligence related to Hasan and whether the information was properly shared and acted upon within government agencies.
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Re: **Tarpley exposes the Fort Hood false flag**
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2009, 10:00:39 pm »
Worried that the Army may have missed red flags about the alleged shooter in the Fort Hood massacre, the Pentagon will likely launch an inquiry into how all the military services keep watch on other volatile soldiers hidden in their ranks, officials said Tuesday.

So they're going to keep watch on volatile soldiers who are hidden in they're ranks?

Who watches the watchmen indeed.

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« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2009, 02:38:46 am »
Webster + AJ's latest analysis of FT HOOD 'patsy' as he's being called (due to 7/7-like drill in operation on the day)

Do the ARMED FORCES listen to A.J.?

Is that allowed? Do they realise they're being used?

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Re: Ft Hood patsy and does the Armed Forces listen to A.J.?
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2009, 10:40:11 am »
Webster + AJ's latest analysis of FT HOOD 'patsy' as he's being called (due to 7/7-like drill in operation on the day)

Do the ARMED FORCES listen to A.J.?

Is that allowed? Do they realise they're being used?

Mike

If it's not 'allowed' they should seriously question that fact alone... 

But many/most won't. Sadly.
Until it's so bad, it's impossible to ignore.
And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!

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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2009, 03:55:07 pm »

The writer has a point, millions of innocent foreign lives aren't worth 13 American lives to most Americans. That's an incredibly selfish and supremacist attitude. Whether this was a false flag or not one could argue that's the bigger point. If more Americans were of good conscience they wouldn't be susceptiple to these false flags anyway but since they have this supremacist attitude 3000 Americans are more important than a million + Iraqis, etc. and it works.

the author's point is bullshit, the ones responsible for the deaths of the millions of innocent are the same ones that caused the deaths of the 13. this is a way for the pharaoh to get the slaves to fight each other.  You do understand that this is the only way the pharaoh retains power right?




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He kept the slaves fighting amongst themselves.
But whenever the slaves get together, that's the beginning of
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Re: **Tarpley exposes the Fort Hood false flag**
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2009, 04:07:48 pm »
About the confusion of the number of shooters at first, Remember this?

http://www.time.com/time/2003/invenhttp://img.timeinc.net/time/2003/inventions



I remember hearing rumors of 5th group experimenting with these when I was at Ft Campbell.

Here is the link to the Japanese company developing the optical camoflauge
http://projects.tachilab.org/rpt/index.php

The translation I got from google is as follows (mind you its not in proper sentence structure but you can get the general idea)

Optical camouflage technology and is optically camouflaged objects to its name. Present a general technique for augmented reality image, the video sort of superimposed images of virtual space to real space, "adding" is. Visually transparent objects Reality Conversely, the video or "minus" to enable the "optical camouflage (Optical Camouflage)" to clear the distracting visual objects in real space through the use of technology enabling.

Camouflage is a reflection on the retro-reflective material affixed to the body shield, background images captured in real time or in advance by HMP to achieve projected. If you want to build a projection system and video cameras in real-time background, if the projected image from the projector without the camera would shift to Nirimasu larger image. So this approach will create a simple model of the background, the video projector at the location of the viewpoint of IBR (Image-based Rendering) is generated by the real-time.
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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2009, 01:39:56 am »
Here is the link to the Japanese company developing the optical camoflauge
http://projects.tachilab.org/rpt/index.php

The translation I got from google is as follows (mind you its not in proper sentence structure but you can get the general idea)

Optical camouflage technology and is optically camouflaged objects to its name. Present a general technique for augmented reality image, the video sort of superimposed images of virtual space to real space, "adding" is. Visually transparent objects Reality Conversely, the video or "minus" to enable the "optical camouflage (Optical Camouflage)" to clear the distracting visual objects in real space through the use of technology enabling.

Camouflage is a reflection on the retro-reflective material affixed to the body shield, background images captured in real time or in advance by HMP to achieve projected. If you want to build a projection system and video cameras in real-time background, if the projected image from the projector without the camera would shift to Nirimasu larger image. So this approach will create a simple model of the background, the video projector at the location of the viewpoint of IBR (Image-based Rendering) is generated by the real-time.

Interesting... I can't help but wonder if a few guys wearing those suit could be the cause of the confusion. I mean although they would have to have many of those bugs worked out by now, it would still take a split second  for the cameras to match up the back ground when they moved. That could account for the differing number of shooters and soldiers being unsure of what they saw at such a life changing event. Well, that and a few Christians In Action insisting that there was only one.
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