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Panic in UKRAINE over Mystery Plague

November, 2009

Has Baxter Released a BioWeapon in Ukraine?
IRONICLY, THIS VIRUS is CALLED - PESTIS


There is speculation this was caused by chemtrails - airplanes spraying the virus over the Ukraine.
I also pulled the problem with gas and Russia because I wonder how much of this is related.
A chemical / biologic attack is harder to defend against.
There is talk this virus is the Marburg - which is very like EBOLA which kills 90% of those infected.

This may be the NWO-FLU part 2
The NWO, globalists, intend this to be world wide, to kill off much of Earth's population.
A research scientist sequenced the H1n1 virus and called it the FLYING PIG FLU.
The virus components are part bird virus, part pig, part human - with 1 part from the 1918 pandemic.
Globalists dug up a victim of the 1918 flu and made a bio weapon to kill off Earth population.
A province in China had pneumonic plague outbreak in August. Several snuck across the border to escape the quarantine.

4 doctors have died in Ukraine
Is this natural?  Or is this a bio effort to wipe out a race gone awry?  Temperature inside of the lungs of those dying from
this illness reached over 130 degrees Fahrenheit!  The lungs virtually melted and filled with blood. Rumors the mystery
illness could be connected to typhus or ebola hemorrhagic fever or pneumonic plague are circulating in Ukraine.
A man died of pneumonic plague in NW China.  There WAS a video on this link, but it was removed.  hmmmm

A blog claims The Pneumonic Plague is hemorrhagic. The person's lungs fill up with blood and they drown in their own blood.
Baxter PharmaSolutions has a bad history of releasing contaminated vaccines.  They make the flu vaccines.
Mystery flu virus kills 37 in Ukraine, 17 in grave cond. The next stage of H1N1 bioweapon deployed?
They say it's a 'pneumonic plague'. It causes respiratory failure.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH223wRGYNU&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhM6YQZdEbQ&feature=player_embedded

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/swine-flu-mystery-virus-or-pure-hype-what-is-going-on-in-ukraine.html

http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2009/10/30/unidentified-flu-outbreak-in-western-ukraine

http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1533%3Ashock-epidemic-of-pneumonic-plague-in-ukraine&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archives/swine-flu-typhus-ebola-hemorrhagic-fever-pneumonic-plague-panic-explodes-as-a-mystery-illness-rips-through-ukraine

Oct 30 -  Mysterious Virus Hits Ukraine, 40 dead - 40,000 Ill in Ukraine.
Epidemic of Pneumonic Plague in Ukraine?  This virus hit China in August.
Baxter may be responsible for a new deadly outbreak of viral pneumonia in Ukraine.  
Baxter 'accidentally' sent vaccine material containing both live Avian bird flu and seasonal influenza to multiple laboratories worldwide.
A laboratory decided to test the vaccine on its ferrets and the ferrets all unexpectedly died. -Bloomberg

Has Baxter Released a BioWeapon in Ukraine
http://www.rense.com/general88/bax.htm


Pneumonic Plague in China, Aug 2009
http://www.revlu.com/Aug1-09.htm

http://europebusines.blogspot.com

http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ386/articles/376396.html


Borders With Ukraine Tightened
Nov 4  -  Russia, Slovakia Tighten Borders With Ukraine Over H1N1 Flu Fears.
The death toll from flu has climbed to 71 since the outbreak struck last week in the western city of Ternopil.
Schools closed across the country
and officials urged people in western Ukraine to travel only when necessary and stay away from public places.
Slovakia, on Ukraine western border closed two of its 5 border crossings with Ukraine.
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571292,00.html?test=latestnews" target="_blank">Tighten Borders With Ukraine Tightened, fox</a>:


Ukraine gas warning
Oct 31 -  Russian PM Vladimir Putin has said Ukraine might be having problems paying for gas, raising new concerns over European supplies.
European Union had not yet given Ukraine the money it had promised to help
provide stable supplies of Russian gas to Europe. He also blamed Ukrainian President Yushchenko for blocking payment.
In January, many countries were left short of gas because of a payment dispute between Moscow and Kiev.

Ukraine gas warning
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8335041.stm

Russia-Ukraine gas war, Jan 9-14 archive
http://www.revlu.com/jan10_09.htm


Russian Nuclear Attack on Poland
Nov 3 -  Russia had offensive war games in Belarus in which nuclear missiles were fired and troops practised an amphibious landing.
Poland was cast as the potential aggressor.
http://standeyo.com/NEWS/09_World/091102.RU.nuke.Poland.html



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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 06:08:44 AM »

I am calling this FLU-MONIA
WHO is calling it Hemorrhagic H1N1

I am trying to keep this updated on this webpage - MANY details not in public news media.
http://www.revlu.com/Nov1-09.htm


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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 09:03:25 PM »

http://www.unian.net/eng/news/news-329426.html

[03.08.2009 11:30]  
China Plague Outbreak Unlikely to Cause Mass Deaths, WHO Says

An outbreak of pneumonic plague in China that killed two men is unlikely to cause the mass fatalities associated with historical outbreaks, according to the World Health Organization, according to Bloomberg.

While the disease can kill 60 percent of its victims if left unchecked, early diagnosis and treatment with generic antibiotics such as streptomycin and tetracycline cuts plague patients’ mortality rate to less than 15 percent, the WHO said on its Web site.

Authorities in northwestern China quarantined the town of Ziketan in Qinghai province after two men died from pneumonic plague, the official Xinhua News Agency reported yesterday. Pneumonic plague is the most serious and least common of three forms of the infectious disease. Plague is caused by the Yersinia pestis bacteria, found mainly in rodents, particularly rats, and in the fleas that feed on them.

“These things do happen sporadically in different countries,” Vivian Tan, a spokeswoman for the WHO in China, said in a telephone interview today. “It’s not something we’re very worried about, but we are keeping an eye on it.”

Pneumonic plague occurs when the bacteria infect the lungs, causing symptoms including fever, headache and weakness, and may lead to potentially fatal cases of pneumonia, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In almost all cases, only the pneumonic form of plague can be passed from person to person.

In 2003, plague sickened 2,118 people in nine countries, killing 182 of them, according to the Geneva-based WHO. Almost 99 percent of the cases and deaths were in Africa.

Historical Deaths

Bubonic plague, which historians and scientists think was responsible for the so-called Black Death which killed 25 million people in Europe during the 1340s, occurs when the bacteria infect a patient’s lymph nodes following a bite from an infected flea, causing painful swelling.

The Black Death was the second of three major plague pandemics in history, according to the WHO. The first, known as Justinian’s plague, started in the 6th century and may have killed about 50 million people in Asia, Africa and Europe. The third began in China in the 19th century before spreading worldwide, the agency said.

The last urban outbreak of plague in the U.S. occurred in Los Angeles during 1924 and 1925, according to the Atlanta-based CDC. Since then, there have been about 10 to 15 cases a year in the U.S., mostly in rural areas, the CDC said on its Web site.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 09:46:02 PM »

I am calling this FLU-MONIA
WHO is calling it Hemorrhagic H1N1

I am trying to keep this updated on this webpage - MANY details not in public news media.
http://www.revlu.com/Nov1-09.htm


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05:39 p.m. Doctors are calling on citizens not to vaccinate against influenza, because such vaccination in the midst of the epidemic may injure the health, coordinator of epidemic influenza in Lviv Miron Borysevich claimed at a press conference, proUA.com reports.


http://www.ua-reporter.com/eng/68106


Epidemic of pneumonic plague in Ukraine?
29.10.2009 (22:26)

Ministry of Health has not established the exact diagnosis of the epidemic disease in the western regions of Ukraine. Health Minister Vasyl Knyazevich has given information about spread of diseases in the Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions today at the meeting of Cabinet of Ministers.

According to the Minister, the World Health Organization is ready to render assistance to Ukrainian experts and the Ministry of Health in order to establish the cause of death and development of disease flu in the Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions.

"We are working at receiving the vaccine against influenza A (H1N1) also", - said Vasily Knyazevich and asked the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to render assistance.

Answering question of Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko about the definition of the specific nature of the disease, the head of the Ministry of Health said: "The nature of infections is viral one. But at the moment it is not defined, is it the Californian influenza H1N1, or it is our seasonal influenza. To date, there is no precise diagnosis."

In turn, First Deputy Prime Minister Olexander Turchynov urged "not to slow in the matter, and hold a conference tomorrow," and noted that preliminary information about the nature of infections will be received tonight.

According to the Minister of Health, to date, 12 adults have died in the Ternopil Region. "There are problems, people of working age 20-45 years are sick, there is a problem with pregnant women (we have the death in the Ivano-Frankivsk and Ternopil Regions), 17 patients remain in the grave condition, 4 of them have artificial pulmonary ventilation", - said Vasily Knyazevych.

According to the Minister, leading international experts, particularly from Russia and Europe, will be involving into establishing the diagnosis.

He noted that the Ivano-Frankivsk region reached the epidemic threshold. 6 deaths are registered there which are related to this situation. Also, the Minister of Health noted that the climatic and temperature conditions in the Ternopil Region did not lead to the development of disease in these regions.

In turn, Yulia Tymoshenko ordered before the end of today's meeting of the government to bring her all the data, the estimates associated with the epidemic disease as a draft form. She also ordered Oleksander Turchynov to consider the issue of informing the public through the video and broadcast that person should avoid work and study if he has signs of cold, and urgently appeal to the doctor.

In addition, Prime Minister instructed the Ministry of Health to send special circulars, which contain instructions for the doctors in this situation, to all hospitals of Ukraine, and to explore the amount of necessary additional funding to counteract an outbreak of viral diseases in the western areas.

In connection with the spread of flu quarantine has been declared in schools in the Ternopil and Ivano-Frankivsk Regions.

04:10 p.m. Despite the fact that doctors do not state that epidemic of swine flu has started in Ukraine, the facts speak for themselves: a man died in Transcarpathia. Precisely swine flu killed him.

According to reports, a week ago the man returned from Saint Petersburg, where he was on a business trip, with symptoms of cold, but sought medical treatment only when the health condition was already critical: there were complications in the form of inflammation of the lungs and pulmonary edema.

Doctors and specialists of the Transcarpathian regional sanitary-epidemiological station previously recognized swine flu as the cause of death, but in connection with the complexity of the final laboratory tests the cause of death of the man has not yet succeeded, reports Obozrevatel.

Another patient with symptoms of swine flu has been hospitalized to regional infectious diseases hospital in Uzhhorod. The resident of Koritnyany village, Uzhhorod district recently returned from Moscow, and felt a deterioration of health. Doctors are confident due to the timely treatment the patient will recover.

Today in Uzhhorod a press conference is planned to be held involving specialists of the Office of Health and State Administration. It will be held at 03:30 a.m. in the regional center of health.

As MIGnews.com.ua correspondent has learned, a group of specialists of Transcarpathian regional sanitary-epidemiological station has left for investigation of a fatal case in Volovets village, whence the deceased comes from. Doctors say that it would be too difficult to confirm the presence of swine influenza in the region - in Ukraine there are no special methods and technical capabilities, Vitaly Logos, MIGnews.com.ua correspondent reports.

An epidemic of A/H1N1 influenza may appear in November in Ukraine, told the director of the Ukrainian Center of influenza and acute respiratory infections Olexander Hrynevich. "Most likely, it will appear when the weather deteriorates. People will be cold”,- said Hrynevich.

05:22 p.m. 21 people have died in three western regions of Ukraine, according to preliminary data, of pneumonia, ForUm reports. Swine influenza has not been found, but the final results will be known in two days, when the additional tests will be spent in London.

Olexandr Hrynevich assured that Ukrainian epidemiologists have been prepared for the epidemic of influenza A/H1N1, reports ForUm. According to him, the state has reserves of disinfection means, necessary tests to identify A/H1N1 have been purchased, places for treatment of patients have been prepared. Hrynevich suggests that an epidemic of swine flu may start soon in Ukraine.

Today, on October 29, it has become known about another case of death from pneumonia in Chernivtsi. Ministry of Health calls on all citizens if symptoms of influenza or other acute respiratory viral diseases appear, go to hospital immediately.

Due to the epidemiological situation the trip of President Victor Yushchenko to the Lviv Region may fail, Glavred cites the chief state sanitary doctor of the Lviv region Roman Pavliv as saying.

On Saturday, October 31, business trip of President of Ukraine to the Lviv Region is planned to be on the occasion of the establishment of the West Ukrainian National Republic.

Three members of Ukraine’s embassies are being checked by doctors on influenza A (H1N1), Foreign Minister Petro Poroshenko reported. "There was information that the three officials of embassies are suspected of being ill with virus A (H1N1). All necessary facilities were provided for treatment and diagnostics," - he said.

Petro Poroshenko said that the Foreign Ministry established a fund for immediate disbursement of funds for treatment in cases where the health of members of diplomatic missions of Ukraine is under threat. The Ministry is also developing mechanisms for temporary insurance for diplomats working in countries where the epidemiological threat or an emergency for their social protection are declared, Ukrainian News reported.

05:39 p.m. Doctors are calling on citizens not to vaccinate against influenza, because such vaccination in the midst of the epidemic may injure the health, coordinator of epidemic influenza in Lviv Miron Borysevich claimed at a press conference, proUA.com reports.

"When an outbreak of influenza begins, nobody is being vaccinated. From the point of view of epidemiology this can not be done because it is harmful. It may harm the patient," - he said.

At the same time, doctors advise not to communicate with people who are sick. If you have to contact with sick people, use flu masks.

A closed meeting has been held in Ivano-Frankivsk, at which participants agreed that epidemic of the so-called "pneumonic plague" is being spread throughout Ukraine. But the problem is its form is unknown, it is ATYPICAL nobody knows how to treat it.

PNEUMONIC PLAGUE has an acute course than other forms, over and is accompanied by a very high mortality rate. The incubation period of primary pneumonic plague rarely exceeds more than 1-4 days. It begins, as a rule, suddenly - with shivering, fever, headache, myalgia, weakness, nausea. The symptoms of pneumonia - cough with phlegm, chest pain, shortness of breath - usually appear on the second day of the disease. Blood spitting, growing respiratory disorders, heart failure, respiratory failure, shock are being observed. In primary pneumonic plague phlegm usually is watery or mucinous, foamy, with blood or visibly bloody.

A secondary pneumonic plague occurs as interstitial pneumonia. Phlegm is scanty and more dense and viscous than in primary pulmonary plague. It is believed that in this regard, patients are less contagious.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 09:54:40 PM »

U.S. military officials sent a medical team to a remote outpost in southern Afghanistan this week to take blood samples from members of an Army unit after a soldier in the unit died from an Ebola-like virus. Dr. Jim Radike, an expert in internal medicine and infectious diseases at the Role 3 Trauma Hospital at Kandahar Air Field, told The Washington Times that Sgt. Robert David Gordon, 22, from River Falls, Ala., died Sept. 16 from what turned out to be Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever after he was bitten by a tick. The virus is transmitted by infected blood and can be carried by ticks, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Dr. Radike, who is with the Navy, said the medical team "will be taking blood samples and the results may take several weeks to get back." He called it "a precautionary measure." Dr. Radike did not say how many individuals would be tested or why the military had waited until now to act. The unit involved is the 5th Stryker Brigade, 2nd Infantry division, A-Company 2-1 Infantry. The news comes as the Pentagon disclosed that it has sent 150,000 doses of vaccine for the H1N1 swine flu virus to Qatar for distribution to U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan - half of what U.S. Central Command has requested. More than a half dozen Afghans have died of the disease, which apparently was transmitted to the country by foreigners. Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell told reporters Wednesday, "We're doing everything within our power to make sure our guys downrange get this [vaccine] as soon as possible."

Dr. Radke said the hemorrhagic fever is similar to Ebola "in that the end there is internal degeneration and external bleeding. From the Black Sea to upper Turkey, you'll see a dozen or more cases a year. Afghanistan falls right in the middle." The disease was first reported in the Crimea in 1944, then in the Congo in 1956, according to the World Health Organization. An outbreak was reported eight years ago in Quetta, the capital of Pakistan's Baluchistan province, which borders Afghanistan. Dr. Radke said U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan not only have to worry about the Taliban but also a host of ailments not commonly found in the West. "Diarrheal diseases, typhoid fever, skin ailments and tuberculosis are some of what we have to be on the lookout for," he said. "It's important for soldiers to get medical help early on if they are not feeling well or have been bitten. It's too risky not to have a doctor take a look at it." Dr. Radike also advised soldiers to "wash their hands often; it's as simple as that." Symptoms of Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever include sudden fever, dizziness, neck pain, aching muscles, soreness in the eyes and sensitivity to light. Early on, nausea, vomiting and sore throat occur. The virus incubation period depends on how the virus was acquired. If the infection is via tick bite, the incubation period is roughly one to three days, with a maximum of nine days, Dr. Radike said. If the illness is not caught early, it is often fatal, he said. The mortality rate is 30 percent, according to the CDC.

Lt. Col. Jeffrey French, Sgt. Gordon's battalion commander, told The Times from Forward Operating Base Ramrod, to the west of Kandahar City, that the soldier's death "was a tragic loss for everyone." It started out as a small bite on the foot, Col. French said. The Stryker Brigade has lost 27 soldiers since its deployment to Afghanistan in July, most from improvised explosive devices. "We never would have thought we'd see the death of a young soldier from such a rare illness," Col. French said. "You can prepare for almost anything out here but how do you prepare for that?"

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 07:48:21 AM »


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Doctors are calling on citizens not to vaccinate - October 29th
Ministry of Health has not established the exact diagnosis of the epidemic disease

WHO is calling it Hemorrhagic H1N1

THAT IS GREAT!  THANK YOU DOG!  And thanks for that link!
I wish I had links to several bloggers in Ukraine-Romania

I believe needles are now death.  It was not always so.
In the past decades vaccines are making many kids autistic.


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PRAY for them!


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China Plague Outbreak Unlikely to Cause Mass Deaths

Yes, I have thot this outbreak could be related to that.
China quarantined the area - BUT - a number escaped the quarantine.


I am also starting to wonder if this is 2 different diseases,
one virus, one bacteria.  Treatments would differ.

Thanks for these links!
http://www.ua-reporter.com/eng
http://www.ua-reporter.com/eng/68930

Oct 29 report
http://www.ua-reporter.com/eng/68106

Thanks everyone.  I will update my page later today.
I may create a new webpage on all this depending what comes of it.
It may be NWO round 2 to use vaccines to kill off Earth population
I wish I had not called this thread 'panic' - but that was the article I took this from originally.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2009, 04:06:49 PM »

http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/

Claims over 1,000,000 sick and over 40,000 hospitalized
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2009, 04:22:09 PM »

YES I KNOW .. I do NOT know what is hype and what is FACT.
I tend not to trust - especially when different reports vary so much.

Here is a report I got today from someone I KNOW in  Romania.

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Nov 9 - Michael Boldea reports
I trust Michael implicitly.  I know him personally.
I am in Romania now. There is no martial law here. The swine flu has been reported in
a town close to where I am, and there are two confirmed cases in the school my sister in law works in, but there is no panic.
There are a few school children walking around with masks on their faces, because the schools passed them out.
There have only been 2 reported flu deaths in the whole country. Michael Boldea

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Granted that is NOT Ukraine .. but its the only trustworthy source I have.
I have tried to contact Jane Burgermeister.

I am convinced its in the USA
and I am convinced hospitals need to treat patients for BOTH virus and bacteria.
I have no proof - only my personal feeling.
It is either a NEW bug - or H1N1 has mutated.  I cant imagine THAT MUCH of a mutation.

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2009, 07:24:51 PM »

I hope you are right.  It's good to hear that it's probably all hype. It would be too sad if it were true.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2009, 04:17:52 AM »

I hope you are right.  It's good to hear that it's probably all hype. It would be too sad if it were true.

I did not say it is all hype.  I would not be working so hard to dig up information that is ACCURATE,
I would not make a webpage on the UKRAINE PLAGUE - FLU-MONIA
http://revlu.com/flu2.htm  - if I believed it is - ALL - hype.

I am simply seeking to ferret out what is going on.  Michael's report is from ROMANIA - not UKRAINE.
This is spreading so fast - that reports are that the borders are crossed .. a few cases Michael has seen in Romania ...
will increase in a week if the hype is true.  I PRAY Michael can get OUT of Romania - which he cant if they go to martial law.

Dont minimize this!

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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2009, 04:42:43 AM »

it is strange that you never hear about the 1 million infected on the MSM in America .  Nothing on the news about what is happening in the Ukraine and it makes you think if it is all hype or that the truth is being hidden.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2009, 05:00:36 AM »

I am  in Romania, no panic here, no real evidence of much in the way of flu cases either. Very few people have bothered with things like vaccines.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2009, 05:13:47 AM »

I am in Bulgaria and the media tried to hype it up abit but everyone is laughing at them. No one is taking the swine-flu seriously.
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2009, 05:18:26 AM »

I am in Bulgaria and the media tried to hype it up abit but everyone is laughing at them. No one is taking the swine-flu seriously.

this isnt the swine flu, its the pnuemonic plague.
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2009, 06:08:22 AM »

SWINE FLU is a ruse .. a deceiption . .a LIE

YOU MUST REALIZE .. this was created by Baxter lab - its a mix of 2 diseases!

The new flu was NEVER 'swine .. pig' .. at all.

This is FLU-MONIA

Virus causes flu
bacteria causes the monia .. lungs .. coughing up blood

The CRISIS at the moment - Nov 10th - is UKRAINE.
Surrounding countries lookout in another 2 weeks.

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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2009, 12:12:10 PM »

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Ukrainians die not from pneumonia, but from virus [disstressindroma], the expert

All victims of virus in Bukovina (22 people at the age from 20 to 40 years) died not of double-sided pneumonia, as this was considered earlier, but as a result virus [disstressindroma], i.e., the total defeat of the lungs: warmly- pulmonary insufficiency first begins, the cardiogenic shock, which causes stopping of heart and death, and then is developed. On this yesterday, on November 11, to the newspaper “[Doba]” reported the chief of bureau Of [chernovitskoy] provincial [sudmedekspertizy], the doctor of sciences, professor Victor [Bachinskiy].
“During double-sided pneumonia is tracked the specific morphological picture. Relative to data of deaths, then here there is no such morphological picture. The virus, which causes death, is very aggressive, it even does not strike trachea, but immediately it falls into the lungs and their strong edema and continuous hemorrhages are caused. Cause this state the mixed types of parainfluenza and influenza [A]/[N]1N1. This is the very toxic strain, which, until now, did not undergo by that manufactured by Ministry of Pub. Health the method of treatment”, reported Victor [Bachinskiy].

According to him, it is necessary to urgently change the standards of treatment, indeed those, which adapted, until now, results they did not give - in the resuscitation it was impossible to save all people, struck by this virus. They did not justify in this situation and the apparatuses for mechanical ventilation of lungs - the mortality of people began in 100%.

In view of this, the group of the professors Of [chernovitskogo] [meduniversiteta] turned into the Ministry of Public Health and [SNBO] with the requirement to reexamine the standards of the treatment of patients in Bukovina. Scientist- morphologists sent into Kiev protocols, results of studies and undertaken in heavily sick and dead from the virus faces analyses.

Victor [Bachinskiy], entering the group of the initiators of rotation, notes that the virus is extremely toxic, it is capable to penetrate not only through the respiratory organs, but also through the ocular shell. Therefore [chernovitskie] scientists recommend to on no account reject the masks and for the period of epidemic even to bear goggles. Important condition for the non-admission of worsening in the situation is also the observance of quarantine regime.

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 12:30:59 PM »

I have no way to know.  I am seeing so much conflicting information.
I sure as heck dont trust media!
and I cant really trust what is on the internet.

A personal acquaintance is having Ukrainians for dinner tonite.
They said their relatives back home say its all hype.  (my translation)

One website siad its political.

But I have a gut feeling this is real.  You need not trust my gut.  Embarrassed

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2009, 12:31:45 PM »

I know guys who call the flu and the flu vaccines, the Hot Dog flu!  Because of all the disgusting and questionable ingredients, just like the hot dogs sold in america
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2009, 01:01:22 PM »

Correct - haemorrhagic flu has NOTHING to do with a seasonal flu-like thing being called 'swine flu' (even though it's something else). Totally different M.O.



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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 03:31:45 PM »

I contacted someone from the Ukrainian Canadian Congress and he said to monitor this site for updates.
http://www.ucc.ca/

He also provided this translation from an ukrainian site.

"My quick English synopsis of the following:
 
There is Laboratory confirmation of 85 cases of H1N1, 16 of these were from dead patients.
The conclusion is that this virus is circulating over the whole territory and the majority of illnesses will be due to this virus. However there is also seasonal flu and other respiratory flu's
Since the beginning of the epidemic 533 samples were taken, tests were completed on 108 and 85 of these tested positive for H1N1.
The cost of one such test is 220 UAH (about $25CDN).
Daily the central lab is performing 50-60 analyses.
 
http://www.radiosvoboda.org/archive/events_news/20091109/630/2735.html?id=1876354
 
 
В Україні лабораторно підтверджено 85 випадків захворювання на пандемічний грип А/H1N1, повідомила на прес-конференції у Києві головний лікар Центральної санітарно-епідеміологічної станції Любов Некрасова; серед того наявність вірусу нового грипу підтвердилася в 16 померлих.

«Попередній висновок: можна вважати, що на сьогодні цей тип вірусу панує на території країни, і більшість захворювань усе ж таки викликані цим типом вірусу. Але сьогодні циркулюють й інші типи вірусів – сезонного грипу і респіраторні віруси», – додала Некрасова.

Вона повідомила, що українські фахівці з експертами ВООЗ визначили ті групи хворих, зразки яких прямують на дослідження до лабораторії.

У першу чергу це стосується хворих, які перебувають у відділеннях реанімації та інтенсивної терапії.

Некрасова повідомила, що всього з початку епідемії було взято 533 зразки, на сьогодні з них досліджено 108 зразків і у 85 випадках підтверджено захворювання на пандемічний грип А/H1N1.

Вона також зазначила, що зараз уже не потрібно проводити дослідження по кожному випадку захворювання, оскільки вартість одного дослідження становить 220 гривень.

Некрасова також повідомила, що центральна лабораторія проводить до 50–60 досліджень щоденно.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2009, 03:36:38 PM »

Situation Update No. 37
On 13.11.2009 at 04:23 GMT+2

The number of deaths in Ukraine from flu viruses has risen to 239, with 26 passing away over the past 24 hours, the Health Ministry said Thursday. The ministry said earlier that 15 regions in the ex-Soviet republic had already crossed the flu epidemic threshold, while 11 provinces were close to it. The Ukrainian government imposed quarantine in nine western provinces in late October in an attempt to curb the spread of flu. All educational establishments in the capital Kiev were closed, and people were obliged to wear medical masks in all catering establishments, shops and social services facilities across the former Soviet republic. Eighty-five cases of swine flu (H1N1 strain), including 16 deaths, have been confirmed in the country. Ukrainian parliament has approved the allocation of 1 billion hryvnias ($125 million) for measures to fight swine and seasonal flu.

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2009, 03:49:59 PM »

I appreciate all your posts.   Wink

I hope you ALL know that no vaccine will help with any flu.
The virus mutates too fast. 

As one doctor put it - the virus is smarter than the vaccine. Cheesy

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Thank you to everyone who is staying on top of this, surely few other things are  more important.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2009, 05:37:21 AM »

O YES, thank all of you so much!  ESPECIALLY you in the Ukraine and surrounding areas!
I am still keeping up daily with my webpage on this. 
http://revlu.com/flu2.htm

It is so painful to me that all I can do is read what others report - and guess what is TRUE!

November 15  Reported Dead officially has gone from 48 November 1 to  282 today.
This is a BIO-WEAPON, it was never swine flu.  It KILLS RAPIDLY
It is spreading from western Ukraine to the eastern half.  It is mutating rapidly.  This is 3 different diseases.
SUSPICION plague caused by low flying planes spraying the bugs on the people.  Joseph Moshe (Moses) /
Monashe tried to warn USA radio that Baxter was going to release a bioweapon in the Ukraine before the outbreak.

Reports on the ground in Ukraine say that it is all fear-mongering.  I hope that is true.
YOU need to discern for yourself.  This could all be political lies for Evil purpose of martial law, global govt.

Replies I have had to my personal Emails and other PERSONAL contacts say its all hype.
As a reporter for 10 years, I have many contacts available to me.


This is something official I was sent today.

Ukraine president speaks November 4th

HE IS MORE THAN HINTING OF FORCED VAX!


On Nov 4th the Ukrainian President said 3 pathogens of viral infections came to Ukraine at the same time,
2 of them are seasonal flu and the third is the A/H1N1.
According to virologists, such a combination of infections due to mutation may produce a new, even more aggressive virus.
The only way to prevent any infection is vaccination.
Only 58% of citizens are vaccinated today in Ukraine with the effective level being 90% and higher.
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/15609.html


I BELIEVE it is REAL.  I BELIEVE it is the globalists seeking to de-populate Earth.
WHY they would begin in Ukraine as opposed to elsewhere, I dont know.
Altho this is what I BELIEVE - I need to REPORT a balance.  It is so frustrating.


Dont Take the Swine Flu Jab, humorous video
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A total of 3 cases of influenza [pandemic] A/H1N1 and 3 fatalities have been officially registered in the Donetsk Oblast. There were 5007 visits to health care facilities recently. Since the start of the epidemic in Ukraine (30 Oct 2009) 62 486 people, including 24 452 children, sought medical care in the Donetsk Oblast, and 2815 patients have been hospitalized. There were 3 fatalities and tissue samples are being tested for etiological diagnosis. The results of express diagnostic tests show that the majority of flu-like diseases are caused by influenza A virus, however only 3 [pandemic?] influenza A/H1N1 have been confirmed. Several local and regional bodies have been created to oversee the epidemic control measures. The sanitary epidemiological service conducts on-the-spot inspections. So far 814 incidents have been inspected and contravention of epidemic control measures, such as absence of masks or disinfection procedures, has been identified in every 5th case. 164 violation fines have been imposed and the work of 22 units has been suspended.

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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2009, 04:09:12 PM »

Nov 15 from a priest
 
A famous Croatian priest Miroslav Bustruk appealed to Croatians NOT to get vaccinated against the flu.  He said,
"I appeal to you, to not get vaccinated for the so called Swine Flu under any circumstance. There is a plan for massive
destruction of humanity worldwide. For this purpose we will see new diseases springing up everywhere.  The vaccine
itself is a very sophisticated weapon whose implanted microchip will control the health of the human being.  Certain
people who have spoken out or warned against the vaccine are already in jail."
More will be known when the Vatican is expected to issue a press release addressing all World's Governments.

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Experts warn of possible A/H1N1 mutation
http://english.cctv.com/program/newshour/20091111/103051.shtml

Medical experts are warning that the A/H1N1 flu has entered a period of high frequency and easy transmission. And with fresh cases of pigs infected by the virus in Hong Kong and Taiwan, experts say the possibility that the virus will mutate is growing.

Recent monitoring has found several cases of pigs, cats and dogs infected by the human A/H1N1 flu virus. Experts now fear that close contact between people and animals will increase the danger of mutation. China's Ministry of Health reported 30 fatal cases on the mainland as of Monday, out of nearly 60 thousand confirmed cases. It said the increase in infections will inevitably result in additional severe cases. Experts call for a timely response each time a case is confirmed, to prevent the illness from worsening.

Dr. Zhong Nanshan, head of Chinese Medical Association, said, "Because when the virus harms the lungs, there is a high possibility of breathing difficulty. It is different from the usual pneumonia. And there will be great difficulty treating such patients, even though they are young and healthy. The reason for this is unclear yet, but what we can do is get vaccinated, and go to the hospital as soon as possible when suffering from a continuous fever. "
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This virus is part pig, part bird, part human flu virus - and part from the 1918 pandemic of spanish flu.
It is mutating like crazy.  I just had to post this picture!

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  Croatian Priest Says Vaccine for Destruction of Humanity Worldwide

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http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/9440/54/

Controversy in Croatia after famous Croatian priest Miroslav Bustruk appealed to Croatians not to get vaccinated against the Swine flu vaccine.

In a church ceremony dedicated to St Martin, father’s Bustruk statement caused an avalanche of reactions in Croatia.

What is it that he said?

“I appeal to you, to not get vaccinated for the so called Swine Flu under any circumstance. There is a plan for massive destruction of humanity worldwide. For this purpose we will see new diseases springing up everywhere” reports Croatian daily “Jutarnji List”, quoting father Bustruk.

“The H1N1 vaccine itself is a very sophisticated weapon whose implanted microchip will control the health of the human being” added the Croatian priest which prompted a great deal of disagreement by Croatian officials.

In defense of his colleague stood Don Jure Zubovik who said father Bustruk’s statement only defended the Church, adding – “certain people who have spoken out or warned against the vaccine are already in jail”.

More will be known in few weeks when the Vatican is expted to issue a press release addressing all World’s Governments.
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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2009, 05:10:50 PM »

2 things from Dr. Nimans page http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/:

1. A post

andre10056 wrote:
As a resident of southern Brooklyn (which could be called with some justification Russia/Ukraine West), I am quite alarmed about the current Ukraine situation with regard to H1N1 infection. As some may know, New York City has about 400,000 to 500,000 Russians and Ukrainians living within its borders making it one of the most populous Russian and Ukrainian speaking areas in the world. A huge percentage of that total live in southern Brooklyn. In my neighborhood, many children speak with each other using either Russian or Ukrainian and English, store signs are often in Cyrillic script, and new immigrants from Russia and Ukraine (as well as Georgia and Uzbekistan, etc.) arrive daily.

There are so many people traveling to and from Russia and Ukraine every day that it's almost like there's a non-stop shuttle in operation.

Clearly, if New Yorkers in general knew what was going on in Ukraine, Belarus, Bulgaria, etc. right now, there might be a frantic search for swine flu vaccinations. Instead, non-Russians/Ukrainians are completely amazed when I describe what's going on and, upon thinking about it, react with great skepticism since there hasn't been even a peep of information about it in the media.

Some percentage of the Russians and Ukrainians have heard some anecdotal reports about a swine flu outbreak but either believe it's no big deal and/or that they will be very well able to defeat any flu outbreak with garlic (or some such home remedy).

At the same time that the Ukraine news is the subject of a virtual media blackout, weekend H1N1 vaccine clinics for middle school and high school kids were kept a secret so that no one knew about them. Last Monday, the New York Times reported that weekend flu clinics had shots for 35,000 or so Flumist doses available PER CLINIC, but that all New York City clinics only administered 1700 or so Flumist doses in total. Oftentimes, there were more police officers on overtime to provide anticpated crowd control that there were clients.

I knew about these scheduled vaccine clinics after doing an exhaustive Internet search, saw that their status was "closed," and assumed that the clinics had simply not received any flu vaccine yet. Little did I know that I should have ignored the "status: closed" in that the city simply failed to update their website on Saturday and Sunday, the days the clinics were in operation.

If New York City, with its close ties to Ukraine, continues to keep its residents in the dark about the swine flu risks they're likely to face, and furthermore continues to manage the vaccination process so poorly, perhaps the negative implications may be experienced by far more Americans than just New Yorkers.


The implication of that much travel to the U.S. is disturbing.
Also, I briefly read at least 2 articles about how there were not crowds showing up for vaccines in NYC; lots of leftovers. Just a big
and you're saying no one knew?!

2. A link
http://www.google.org/flutrends/
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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2009, 01:38:10 AM »

slight amendment to this story from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwarfare#History_of_attacks

Project of the International Convention on Prohibition of Cyberwar
A Ukrainian professor of International Law, Alexander Merezhko, has developed a project called the International Convention on Prohibition of Cyberwar in Internet. According to this project, cyberwar is defined as the use of Internet and related technological means by one state against political, economic, technological and information sovereignty and independence of any other state. Professor Merezhko's project suggests that the Internet ought to remain free from warfare tactics and be treated as an international landmark. He states that the Internet (cyberspace) is a "common heritage of mankind."


Surely, they wouldn't PUNISH Ukraine for such heresy, right?
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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2009, 05:56:56 AM »

sparky!  a swine flu vaccination IS THE PROBLEM! .. NOT THE ANSWER!

The only trustworthy answer I have at the moment is
consume elderberry, garlic, onion, cayenne, and colloidal silver.

I have a tidbit - way to long for me to post here - and I am sure both christians and non-christians read this board ..
so many things depend on your opinion.

On my flu page - http://revlu.com/flu2.htm - scroll down to KEY

Is ALL this all disinformation by the NWO globalists?  WHY?  To discredit blogers who warn? ... ??

The Joseph Moshe part originated with Ott - who the Mormon church tossed out.  Mormon church is heavily controlled by NWO.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Moshe plays a huge part in this!




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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2009, 02:02:38 PM »

a huge part in the disinfo or the whistleblowing?

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Moshe plays a huge part in this!
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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2009, 02:11:59 PM »

Oh Mike - If I only knew for sure.  But unless I fly to ukraine and sequence the virus of several deaths and do autopsies myself, I dunno!

Reporting is my life.  It has been for 10 years.  I want to WARN when necessary - and report the TRUTH.
When there is disinformation everywhere I turn - and I never know WHO the h20 I can believe / trust - its not only hard, its IM-POS-I-BULL!

I do update my page daily.  I dont mean to 'advertise' - but I want others to know - and spread the word.
Some cases increasing in Israel - ONE of the 3 'bugs' is A/H1N1 2009 - the same as Ukraine.  This is a 3rd hand email report to me, but its not disinformation.
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recombinomics stats just posted within the past 2 hours
November 17


1,457,564 Influenza/ARI

83,526 Hospitalized

328 Deaths

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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2009, 02:54:47 PM »

yeah, I saw the report of those 328 deaths!

this thing's tripically insane!
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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2009, 03:18:18 PM »

TAMIFLU

I am just sticking this in here!  I hope it helps someone.

A young man just stopped by to visit with me just now.  He had H1N1 Nov 3 here in USA.
He went to a doc and was tested - and put on TAMIFLU.  About Nov 6 he recovered.  Maybe he'd have recoved without tamiflu - I cant know.

I said - did your doctor warn you TAMIFLU can be worthless? .. Can cause suicide?

He looked at me ... and said ... after 3 days on TAMIFLU he was extremely depressed and had "cabin fever" and was "goin nuts"

TAMIFLU IS WORTHLESS.  I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT.

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IF ANYONE KNOWS OF AN URGENT NEWS SECTION ON THIS FORUM - PLEASE POST THERE IMMEDIATELY!
I just emailed Power Hour which is on NOW - and Alex Jones - I dunno if he will ever see it - and its URGENT!


BREAKING NEWS

Joseph Moshe Monashe is BEING HELD in the
PATTON STATE MENTAL HOSPITAL in CALIFORNIA


PRAY for a Peter experience!
That an angel of the LORD will free and hide him!



Joseph Moshe Monashe, the dual national (Israeli-American) Mossad biowar expert,
who was attacked and seized by Federal Agents and LAPD in mid-August in California,
after speaking to Dr. True Ott on his national radio show and warning of a plot by Baxter International to
spread a Plague from Baxter's Ukrainian lab, IS BEING HELD IN THE PATTON STATE MENTAL HOSPITAL IN CALIFORNIA.

Next Court Date is 01/25/2010.

This is right out of the old Soviet Union, throw someone in a mental hospital to keep them out of sight for a long time.

People, start contacting everyone you can in the California Governor's office, the Lt. Governor's office, the Attorney General's office and members of the California General Assembly.

Call/fax/email them and demand that this man be released and be available for public interviews; demand that there be an open and public investigation as to why he was arrested and is being held. Your life and the lives of your family may be at stake here.

This plot to commit mass murder on a global scale unheard of before in human history, has got to be stopped or we will all pay a terrible price.

http://europebusines.blogspot.com/2009/11/news-links-of-day-ukrainian-plague_17.html


I am keeping up with Ukraine plague here DAILY!  But I posted here FIRST due to this urgent breaking news!
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IF ANYONE KNOWS OF AN URGENT NEWS SECTION ON THIS FORUM - PLEASE POST THERE IMMEDIATELY!

I'd put it in general.
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« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2009, 06:20:30 AM »

They say he threateend the White House, which prompted the police chase, search warrants and all that jazz. So we may never hear from him again. Although what was he doing living in LA...with his mom? And the news byte said his mom was quoted as saying "he is depressed, and has mental issues..." love the ol mental illness white wash...
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