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« on: November 02, 2009, 03:26:47 PM »

Soldier arrested over explosives in Tenn. field
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CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. — An Army Special Forces soldier was arrested Monday after a pair of hunters found about 100 pounds of explosives outside his home near Fort Campbell.

Maj. April Olsen, a spokeswoman at the sprawling Army post on the Tennessee-Kentucky border, said the unidentified soldier was being held in the county jail.

Federal and military officials searched his home outside Clarkesville after the hunters found the C-4 plastic explosives in a field late Sunday. Ted Denny, spokesman for the Montgomery County sheriff, said they appeared to be military ordnance.

Joel Siskovic, a spokesman for the FBI in Tennessee, said the agents from the Joint Terrorism Task Force were called to the scene, but after conducting interviews, they determined there was no connection to domestic or international terrorism.

Most C-4 explosives are used by the military, but there is limited commercial use, such as in demolitions, said Lon Santis, manager of technical services for the Institute of Makers of Explosives, the safety and security association of the commercial explosives industry.

Santis said the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has record-keeping and identification requirements it can use to track explosives, but those requirements do not apply to military explosives.

Another Fort Campbell soldier was arrested in October and charged with selling four stolen hand grenades and a stolen anti-tank rocket to an undercover officer in Tennessee.

Prosecutors said the transaction with Pfc. Joshua Bartlett Etherton, a 101st Airborne Division soldier, was arranged after police in the small town of Paris received a tip, but they would not say who he believed was the buyer.

He remains in prison without bond.
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 03:31:10 PM »

I think I'd have taken half of it myself for a rainy day, and left him the other half. I'm sure he wouldn't say anything. Wink
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 02:49:06 AM »

I could not find this posted anywhere.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hHtqs6fPfL0tpK30LxPz8CslAiHQD9BNIVK05

Soldier arrested over explosives in Tenn. field

(AP) – 14 hours ago

CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. — An Army Special Forces soldier has been arrested following the discovery of about 100 pounds of explosives outside his Tennessee home.

Federal and military officials searched his home early Monday morning after a pair of hunters found the C-4 plastic explosive in a field by the house outside Clarksville. The house is near Fort Campbell, a sprawling Army post on the Tennessee-Kentucky border where the soldier is based.

Maj. April Olsen, a spokeswoman for Army Special Forces at Fort Campbell, said the soldier, who was not identified, is currently being held in the county jail.

Olsen said the search was conducted by agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the FBI and U.S. Army criminal investigators.

Ted Denny, spokesman for the Montgomery County sheriff, said the explosives found late Sunday evening appeared to be military ordnance.

Lon Santis, manager of technical services for the Institute of Makers of Explosives, the safety and security association of the commercial explosives industry, said most C-4 explosives are used by the military, but there is limited commercial use, such as in demolitions.

Santis said the ATF has record-keeping and identification requirements they can use to track explosives, but those requirements do not apply to military explosives.

Another Fort Campbell soldier was arrested in October and charged with selling four stolen hand grenades and a stolen anti-tank rocket to an undercover officer in Tennessee.

Prosecutors said the transaction with Pfc. Joshua Bartlett Etherton, a 101st Airborne Division soldier, was arranged after police in the small town of Paris received a tip, but they would not say who he believed was the buyer.

He remains in prison without bond.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 04:32:54 AM »

They are all probably on watch lists, anyway. The people like that, the government will always be watching.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 11:27:23 AM »

A bit more of a detailed story here.

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=11424112

CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. - An Army Special Forces soldier has been arrested following the discovery of 100 pounds of explosives at his Tennessee home in Montgomery County.

Timothy Ryan Richards appeared in federal court Monday in Nashville on charges of possessing two unregistered guns.

Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent Eric Kehn said he expects Richards will face more charges related to the discovery of the explosives.

Two hunters stumbled upon 100 pounds of C-4 Sunday night at the solider's farm on Johnson Road. The house is located near the Fort Campbell, Ky., Army post where the solider is based.

The explosives were found in crates. The material was sealed in watertight containers and partially buried.

Maj. April Olsen, a spokeswoman for Army Special Forces at Fort Campbell, said the solider is currently being held in the county jail.

The Montgomery County Sheriff's Bomb Squad was called out to investigate along with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the FBI.

Ted Denny, spokesman for the Montgomery County sheriff, said the explosives found late Sunday evening appeared to be military ordinance.

An FBI spokesman said investigators don't think the explosives were connected to domestic or international terrorism.

Richards' age and rank weren't immediately available.






What sort of damage can 100 lbs of c4 do?
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 11:51:37 AM »

Folks, meet the left hand. He's the one the Feds want you to watch and shake your head at or maybe your fists if they decide midstream to label him a right wing or literaian/ Constitutionalist militant... So whilethe left hand is being flaunted in front of the camera, the right hand, may very well be using 500 pounds of C4 to cause a false flag... If you pay too much attention to the left hand, you'll never see the right hand.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 12:11:16 PM »

i have not seen this story on the MSM which means he was probably a patsy (or worse) and some plan got screwed up.

Here is a similar story that the MSM completely ignored:

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The "dirty bomb" that disappeared

The "dirty bomb" that disappeared
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/The_%22dirty_bomb%22_that_disappeared
March 8, 2008
The curious tale of an Obama hating, cashed up, nuclear Timothy McVeigh from Maine.

By Julian Assange (investigations editor)

It has all the makings of a great story. But outside of the US state of Maine and select counter-terrorism circles, you won't have heard about it. For this is a story with all the right ingredients but one wrong ingredient.

On the right side is a leaked FBI intelligence report, Obama's inauguration, a trust fund, a woman, a basement lab, uranium, thorium, the first attempt to build a "dirty bomb" on US soil, and, of course, murder.

On the wrong is the body of James G. Cummings, white supremacist millionaire, found in his Belfast home on December 9, shot to death.

After local police attended the scene, the FBI moved in and sealed off the building. Men in protective suits descended on the home but police refused to comment about what they found. Mrs. Cummings was taken into custody.

Then on Jan 12 Wikileaks revealed a confidential FBI field intelligence report on the incident as part of a Presidential inauguration threat analysis.[1]

According to the FBI report, Cummings had four lots of one gallon containers of bomb-grade hydrogen peroxide, uranium, thorium (also radioactive), lithium metal, thermite, aluminum powder, beryllium (radiation booster), boron, black iron oxide and magnesium ribbon.

While the radiation levels from Cummings initial device would have not have been physically significant compared to its explosive and toxic effects, had Cummings set off the device in Washington DC, during Obama's Presidential inauguration, its psychogenic effect may have hospitalized thousands.

The FBI states it also seized literature on how to build “dirty bombs” and information about cesium-137, strontium-90 and cobalt-60 and other radioactive materials.

There was also evidence linking Cummings to white supremacist groups, including Cummings' membership application to the US National Socialist (Nazi) party.

Local tradesmen who worked at the Cummings home told Maine reporters that Cummings was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler and had a collection of Nazi memorabilia around the house, including a prominently displayed flag with a swastika. Cummings claimed to have pieces of Hitler’s personal silverware and place settings.[2]

Though the Associated Press independently confirmed the Wikileaks FBI report, no-one outside of the Maine press (and Wikileaks) wanted to tell their readers about the first credible "dirty bomb" plot on US soil.

Perhaps the media has simply tired of the phrase? Not at all.

There have been at least 1,264 media references to "dirty bomb" in the past month. A mere 23, or 1.8%, relate to the Cummings case--despite it being the only real plot among them.[3]

Of the 23 Cummings references 21 are local Maine media and two are from security industry magazines.

The same time period saw 409 blog references, Some 76, or 19%, relate to the Cummings case--ten times the ratio of organized media.[4]

However, 78 out of 79 bloggers simply copied text from Maine's paper of record, the Bangor Daily News (BDN) which followed up the Wikileaks document with a strong traditional press investigation. The 79th also wondered about the media silence outside of Maine.

Conservatives apparently didn't want to draw attention to a radioactive, wealthy version of Timothy McVeigh coming from their own sphere, although nearly every day during Bush's reign saw "dirty bombs" hyped as the ultimate threat.

The left didn't want to repeat another "dirty bomb" story, the likes of which Republicans had used to drive hundreds of billions of dollars into Republican dominated military and security contractors.

Those same contractors normally would have comprised a lobby to get the story out--and counter-terrorism dollars in--but their message lines were finely honed to hype threats posed by militant Islam and radical anti-capitalist greens.

Libertarians all over had conditioned themselves to oppose reportage that might lead to reactionary state controls.

The FBI wasn't talking and the Maine government tried to play incident down, under the rubric that they had protected Maine citizens at all times, despite apparently having no conception of the Cummings plot.

Journalists of various hues at influential east coast outlets could have pushed the story had there been enough prestige incentive to overcome other allegiances, but because Wikileaks and BDN were "first" there was no such incentive. If there were journalism awards to be had, they'd be going to Maine journalists and Wikileaks.

And there you have it. The first "dirty bomb" plot on US soil, cut short only by a Shakespearean murder. But until now, you probably never heard about it, because only a few had incentives to tell you.

The Belfast dirty bomber is just one drop from an ocean of truth that is unreported, not repeated, and does not enter into civil discourse, because it is not perceived to be profitable to talk about, regardless of how profitable it may be to hear.

Yet it is from these shared perceptions that we form the structure of civilization itself. Every government, every law, every regulation and every constitution is its product. Hence the quality of civilization is predicated on the degree to which civil discourse is a fair representation of the only reality which civilization can govern.

Only when the dreams of man are built from knowledge will they support the weight of people.

That is why the revelation of primary source knowledge, from which everything follows, must be set free. Its limits are the limits of civilization itself. In its emancipation, the emancipation of all.
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Washington DC Regional Threat and Analysis Center report re Inauguration, 16 Jan 2009
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Parts for 'dirty bomb' found in slain US man's home
Officials verify 'dirty bomb' probe results
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↑ Washington DC Regional Threat and Analysis Center report re Inauguration, 16 Jan 2009
↑ Parts for 'dirty bomb' found in slain US man's home
↑ According to Google News: http://news.google.com/
↑ According to the most comprehensive blog search engine, Icerocket: http://icerocket.com/
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 12:12:07 PM »

Two hunters stumbled upon 100 pounds of C-4 Sunday night at the solider's farm on Johnson Road. The house is located near the Fort Campbell, Ky., Army post where the solider is based.

The explosives were found in crates. The material was sealed in watertight containers and partially buried.


Doesn't seem right, what were two hunters doing stumbling around after dark on someone elses property?
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 12:20:12 PM »

Moe on the dirty bomb story above.

How was this story ignored by everyone?

Nazi

Gun-totting wife

Hates Obama

Dirty Bomb

I mean this pulitzer prize winning stuff here just completely ignored...

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Report: Slain US Nazi hated Obama, had parts for 'dirty bomb'
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Slain_white_supremacist_had_components_for_0309.html
Stephen C. Webster
Published: Monday March 9, 2009



Claim: Depleted uranium purchased over the Internet from an American company

Trust fund millionaire James G. Cummings, an American Nazi sympathizer from Maine who was slain by his wife Amber in December, allegedly had the radioactive components necessary to construct a "dirty bomb," a newly released threat analysis report states.

The man, allegedly furious over the election of President Obama, purchased depleted uranium over the Internet from an American company.

"According to an FBI field intelligence report from the Washington Regional Threat and Analysis Center posted online by WikiLeaks, an organization that posts leaked documents, an investigation into the case revealed that radioactive materials were removed from Cummings’ home after his shooting death on Dec. 9," reported the Bangor Daily News.

"Amber (Cummings) indicated James was very upset with Barack Obama being elected President," reported the Washington Regional Threat and Analysis Center (PDF link). "She indicated James had been in contact with 'white supremacist group(s).' Amber also indicated James mixed chemicals in the kitchen sink at their residence and had mentioned 'dirty bombs.'"

"Also found was literature on how to build 'dirty bombs' and information about cesium-137, strontium-90 and cobalt-60, radioactive materials," said the Bangor Daily. "The FBI report also stated there was evidence linking James Cummings to white supremacist groups. This would seem to confirm observations by local tradesmen who worked at the Cummings home that he was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler and had a collection of Nazi memorabilia around the house, including a prominently displayed flag with swastika. Cummings claimed to have pieces of Hitler’s personal silverware and place settings, painter Mike Robbins said a few days after the shooting."

After Amber Cummings admitted to the murder and entered an insanity plea, Belfast, Main police felt it necessary to bring the FBI on the scene. Bangor Daily reporter Eric Russell followed up in a filmed interview with Belfast Police Chief Jeffrey Trafton:



The paper also reported that Cummings had a long history of violence.

Public safety officials were quick to claim there was no threat.

The story of the first attempt at constructing a "dirty bomb" in the United States was not carried by any mainstream press outside of Maine.

"Conservatives apparently didn't want to draw attention to a radioactive, wealthy version of Timothy McVeigh coming from their own sphere, although nearly every day during Bush's reign saw "dirty bombs" hyped as the ultimate threat," summarized Wikileaks.

"The left didn't want to repeat another 'dirty bomb' story, the likes of which Republicans had used to drive hundreds of billions of dollars into Republican dominated military and security contractors."

In the report, an unnamed source noted, "state authorities detected radiation emissions in four small jars in the residence labeled 'uranium metal', as well as one jar labeled 'thorium.' The four jars of uranium carried the label of an identified US company."

"Further preliminary analysis on 30 December 2008 indicated an unlabeled jar to be a second jar of thorium. Each bottle of uranium contained depleted uranium 238. Analysis also indicated the two jars of thorium held thorium 232."

"An Internet search of the James B. Cummings Trust indicated that it has an annual income of $10 million," noted a report republished by Wikileaks.

And here is the evidence of a patsy in the making:

Cummings had violent history
http://www.bangornews.com/detail/99358.html
By Abigail Curtis 2/12/09


BELFAST, Maine - James G. Cummings II was known as "kind of a violent dude" back home in Fort Bragg, Calif., according to Lt. Rusty Noe of the Mendocino County Sheriff's Office.

"He was involved in several assault cases," Noe said in a telephone interview Wednesday evening. "He was a victim in some, a suspect in others, most of them involving family."

But despite the 16 contacts the sheriff's office had with him in the late 1990s, Noe sounded surprised to learn of recent allegations that Cummings was a white supremacist with a cache of radioactive materials and directions for building a dirty bomb in his Belfast home. [Profile of a patsy, look into connections with this guy and government agencies.  He could be one of the "Homegrown" patsies that they have available.  Look how everyone is completely quiet about this one.]

"The guys say they never knew him to be a Neo-Nazi type," Noe said. "He seemed like he was a kind of angry dude that argued with the family."

Police say that Cummings was shot to death by his wife, Amber B. Cummings, two months ago, in what they have described as a domestic violence homicide. He had no criminal history in Maine.

There was even less information readily available about Amber Cummings, whose maiden name may have been Brown. Cummings didn't answer the phone at her Belfast home Wednesday afternoon.

It wasn't clear Wednesday why the Cummingses moved to their home at 346 High Street in Belfast.

There are three vehicles registered to the couple with the office of the Maine Secretary of State: a 2000 Jeep Wrangler, a 1999 Dodge Durango and a 1998 motor home.

All in all, a modest lifestyle for a man who came from a California family as wealthy as it was troubled. His father, James G. Cummings Sr., made a fortune in real estate and was a well-known local philanthropist before being shot to death at his home in 1997, according to newspaper accounts.

Just months before his father's death, when James G. Cummings II was 17, he made the national news - including Oprah - when he and his father allegedly conspired to secretly videotape his mother in the act of using hard drugs, according to the archives of the Anderson Valley Advertiser.

"The national media swooped down on Fort Bragg, and there was a 24-hour cacophony about kids spying on parents," wrote Bruce Anderson in a 2002 story. "[They] were long gone by the time it was found that Mom had been brewing up popcorn balls for the kids, not black tar heroin."

Mark Scaramella, the managing editor of the paper, said Wednesday that Cummings and his sister, Kathryn, sued to get more of their father's estate in the early 2000s.

It isn't clear how much they inherited, but the father's trust fund reportedly earns an estimated annual income of $10 million.

When asked about a neo-Nazi presence in Fort Bragg, Scaramella chuckled.

"There are some red-necky sorts of skinheady people," he said. "I don't think they read enough to be neo-Nazis."
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 12:24:47 PM »

Two hunters stumbled upon 100 pounds of C-4 Sunday night at the solider's farm on Johnson Road. The house is located near the Fort Campbell, Ky., Army post where the solider is based.

The explosives were found in crates. The material was sealed in watertight containers and partially buried.


Doesn't seem right, what were two hunters doing stumbling around after dark on someone elses property?

Not every hunter is a law abiding citizen.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2009, 03:42:16 PM »

...or hte cops got word about it, went snooping, and chalked it up to "an anonymous 911 call."

True story, i've told it here before. I had a subordiante that loved ot skirt the gray edges of the law. He fancied himself a bigtime drug interdictor. He was really just a dick. So anyhow, there were a few cars he could never get ANY PC on to get a pullover. So he was prone to calling in to dispatch vie his cell phone ot report suspicious vehicles matching the exact info of the vehicle he wanted to pull over. As soon as dispatch "notified him" via radio, he pulls them over. I caught him at it, because he was so "johnny on the spot." So I pulled the 911 tapes. It was his voice, and on one such call, you could barelllllly make out his police radio chattering in the background. I disciplined him for it, but becuase he was well connected, he never got in deep shit, and the cases never got thrown out.

All that to say, if the police want to get onto that property "legally" there are gray ways to do it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2009, 04:51:30 PM »

Another Timothy McVeigh?  FALSE FLAG WATCH ALERT!!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2009, 04:58:08 PM »

Another Timothy McVeigh?  FALSE FLAG WATCH ALERT!!!!!

Damn straight!!!

The media has not said a word about this...

100lbs?!?!?!?!

The media has gone ape shit crazy about a guy buying hydrogen peroxide.

This is being squashed. AP has to do one story to cover their ass, but the real story is the lack of coverage.

There was the guy with the dirty bomb and this guy...

NWO is making preperations for another false flag, better believe it!
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2009, 05:04:53 PM »

did this soldier have connections to Blackwater?

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Look how they conduct false flag bombings in Pakistan

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'Blackwater behind Peshawar blast'
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Pakistani people gather around the debris of destroyed buildings a day after a deadly car bomb blast at a market in Peshawar.

Pakistan's pro-Taliban militants blame private US security firm Blackwater for a Wednesday bomb blast in Peshawar which killed over 100 people.

Hakimullah Mehsud, head of the Tehrik-e-Taliban, said Blackwater and some Pakistani agencies were involved in the bomb explosion at a crowded market in Peshawar.

According to the latest reports, the death toll has mounted to 106 with over 150 injured while rescue workers say that more people could still be buried under the debris. Most of the dead were women and children.

Pakistan army says since the militants are facing defeat in the South Waziristan tribal region, they are now targeting the people.

Mehsud has rejected the claim, saying the US security firm Blackwater, in collaboration with some local agencies, were involved in the attack.

On Sunday, about 200 supporters of the Tehrik-e-Taliban party held an anti-US demonstration in Dera Ismail Khan, denouncing Blackwater and chanting anti-US slogans.

The provincial chief of the Jamat-e-Islami party, Saraj-ul-Haq, said that the Pakistani operation against militants, which is being conducted 'with the consent of America', should be stopped as it only fulfills the aims of the enemy.

"Now this is sure, that all the blasts, either carried out on Faisal Mosque or Khyber Bazaar, are carried out by Blackwater," he said.

About 28,000 soldiers are battling an estimated 10,000 pro-Taliban militants, including about 1,000 tough Uzbek fighters and some Arab al-Qaeda-linked members.

Analysts have warned of the possibility of more violence as the militants come under pressure in South Waziristan.
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2009, 05:08:14 PM »

Obama's approval ratings do suggest the time is ripe.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2009, 05:10:46 PM »

Sane, you might want to merge threads!

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=142646.msg861261#msg861261
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2009, 05:13:49 PM »

I could not find this posted anywhere.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hHtqs6fPfL0tpK30LxPz8CslAiHQD9BNIVK05

Soldier arrested over explosives in Tenn. field

(AP) – 14 hours ago

CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. — An Army Special Forces soldier has been arrested following the discovery of about 100 pounds of explosives outside his Tennessee home.

Federal and military officials searched his home early Monday morning after a pair of hunters found the C-4 plastic explosive in a field by the house outside Clarksville. The house is near Fort Campbell, a sprawling Army post on the Tennessee-Kentucky border where the soldier is based.

Maj. April Olsen, a spokeswoman for Army Special Forces at Fort Campbell, said the soldier, who was not identified, is currently being held in the county jail.

Olsen said the search was conducted by agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the FBI and U.S. Army criminal investigators.

Ted Denny, spokesman for the Montgomery County sheriff, said the explosives found late Sunday evening appeared to be military ordnance.

Lon Santis, manager of technical services for the Institute of Makers of Explosives, the safety and security association of the commercial explosives industry, said most C-4 explosives are used by the military, but there is limited commercial use, such as in demolitions.

Santis said the ATF has record-keeping and identification requirements they can use to track explosives, but those requirements do not apply to military explosives.

Another Fort Campbell soldier was arrested in October and charged with selling four stolen hand grenades and a stolen anti-tank rocket to an undercover officer in Tennessee.

Prosecutors said the transaction with Pfc. Joshua Bartlett Etherton, a 101st Airborne Division soldier, was arranged after police in the small town of Paris received a tip, but they would not say who he believed was the buyer.

He remains in prison without bond.


What the F!
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2009, 05:27:48 PM »

This guy had some serious shit.

They name the patsy in the Annie Le case, they name every person with an arab sounding name who stole a stick of bubble gum in the past 50 years, but this guy they will not mention his name.

HE WAS DEFINITELY BEING PRIMED FOR A FALSE FLAG PATSY ATTACK!!

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What kinda damage could 100lbs of C-4 do?

A LOT!

One hundred pounds used by an idiot would cause a tremendous amount of damage.

One hundred pounds in the hands of an expert... Pick a target.

I would like to know Jesse Ventura's take on this.
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2009, 05:29:32 PM »

From this thread:  Re: "Terror Drill" IEDs (Bombs) At Large Mall


This is red alert shit.  NWO is pushing the false flag paradigm into every area of life.  "70 volunteers".  That's where America has failed right there.  There should have been zero volunteers, because it is all illegitimate BULL, ALL inside job BS to expand the militarized prison grid everywhere.  

NON COMPLIANCE FOLKS, THESE DRILLS NEED TO BE MASS PROTESTED, AND PREVENTED FROM BEING CARRIED OUT.  NO ONE SHOULD EVER VOLUNTEER FOR THIS HIGH TREASON OF POLICE WORKING WITH NRO/MILITARY INTELLIGENCE VIA ENTERPRISE ARCHITECTURE AI INTEROPERABILITY DATABASES AND UNIFIED BULLSHIT COMMUNICATIONS.

Re: CIA patsies criminalize everyday items-WMD terror charges for cosmetics
http://www.thestarpress.com/article/20091004/NEWS06/91004013/Indy+to+enlist+citizens+in+terrorist+watch+program

Indy to enlist citizens in terrorist watch program

Indianapolis Star staff and wire reports • October 4, 2009

INDIANAPOLIS — A store clerk's curiosity about why Najibullah Zazi was buying large quantities of beauty supply products is an example of the kind of vigilance that can combat terrorism, a police commander said Saturday.

Los Angeles Police Cmdr. Joan McNamara cited this summer's incident as police chiefs meeting in Denver adopted a model for a nationwide community watch program that teaches people what behavior is truly suspicious and encourages them to report it to police.

Michael Spears, chief of the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department, attended the meeting and discussed implementing the program in Indianapolis, where it would be called "Indy Watch," said department spokesman Lt. Jeffrey Duhamell. It's not clear when the program will begin because much of the planning is in the beginning stages, Duhamell added.

Federal authorities allege Zazi, 24, tried to make an explosive using ingredients from beauty supplies purchased at Denver-area stores. He has been jailed in New York on charges of conspiracy to detonate a weapon of mass destruction in a plot that may have targeted New York City. Zazi has denied the charges.

Zazi reportedly told an inquisitive clerk he needed a large amount of cosmetic chemicals because he had lots of girlfriends. Although his purchases weren't reported to authorities because suppliers often buy large quantities, the police chiefs hope a coordinated publicity effort will make people think differently about such encounters.

Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton, who developed the iWatch program with McNamara, called it the 21st century version of Neighborhood Watch.

iWatch would have provided an easy way for that Colorado store clerk and others to report suspicious activity so police could have launched investigations earlier, McNamara said.

"That clerk had a gut instinct that something wasn't right," she said.

Using brochures, public service announcements and meetings with community groups, iWatch is designed to deliver concrete advice on how the public can follow the oft-repeated post-Sept. 11 recommendation, "If you see something, say something."
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Program materials list nine types of suspicious behavior that should compel people to call police -- and 12 kinds of places to look for it.

The program also is designed to ease reporting by providing a toll-free number and Web page the public can use to alert authorities.
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"It's really just commonsense types of things," Bratton said, adding that his department is providing technical assistance to other agencies that want to adopt the program.

But American Civil Liberties Union policy counsel Mike German, a former FBI agent who worked on terrorism cases, said the indicators are all relatively common behaviors. He suspects people will fall back on personal biases and stereotypes of what a terrorist looks like when deciding to report someone to the police.

"That just plays into the negative elements of society and doesn't really help the situation."

An Indiana Civil Liberties Union official agreed.

Ken Falk, legal director of the ACLU of Indiana, said he was concerned about whether participants in the program would be adequately trained.

He said he feared a focus on preconceived notions of what a terrorist suspect is supposed to look like and "not on what an intelligence person who is highly trained would view as a terrorist suspect."

After the Sept. 11 attacks, the Bush administration proposed enlisting postal carriers, gas and electric company workers, telephone repair people and other workers with access to private homes in a program to report suspicious behavior to the FBI. Privacy advocates condemned this as too intrusive, and the plan was dropped.

Bratton and McNamara said privacy and civil liberties protections are built into this program.

"We're not asking people to spy on their neighbors," McNamara said.

If someone reports something based on race or ethnicity, the police will not accept the report, and someone will explain to the caller why that is not an indicator of suspicious behavior, McNamara said.

The iWatch program isn't the first to list possible indicators of suspicious behavior. Some cities, such as Miami, have offered a public list of seven signs of possible terrorism. Federal agencies also have put out various lists.

Other efforts encourage the public and law enforcement to report such signs through dozens of state-run centers across the country. One such center, the Colorado Information Analysis Center, has a form on its Web site to report suspicious activity.

Bratton hopes the iWatch program becomes as successful and as well known as the Smokey Bear campaign to prevent wildfires.

"There he is with his Smokey the Bear hat. Similarly here, we hope that this program, even though it's in its birthing stages right now, in a few years will become that well known to the American public."
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What, where to watch out

A new anti-terrorism community watch program, iWatch, beginning this weekend in Los Angeles, advises the public that these nine suspicious signs should be reported to police:
• People drawing or measuring important buildings.
• Strangers asking questions about security or building security procedures.
• Briefcase, suitcase, backpack or package left behind.
• Cars or trucks left in "No Parking" zones in front of important buildings.
• Intruders in secure areas where they are not supposed to be.
• A person wearing clothes that are too big and too heavy for the weather.
• Chemical smells or fumes that worry you.
• Questions about sensitive information such as building blueprints, security plans or VIP travel schedules without a right or need to know.
• Purchasing supplies or equipment that can be used to make bombs or weapons or purchasing uniforms without having proper credentials.

The iWatch program advises people to be alert for those behaviors at 12 types of places:
• Amusement parks.
• Bridges.
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• High-rise buildings.
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This guy had some serious shit.

They name the patsy in the Annie Le case, they name every person with an arab sounding name who stole a stick of bubble gum in the past 50 years, but this guy they will not mention his name.

HE WAS DEFINITELY BEING PRIMED FOR A FALSE FLAG PATSY ATTACK!!

  C4? Hell yeah they keep a tight check on that shit i doubt he just wondered off with it.
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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2009, 05:51:33 PM »

Do you guys remember this complete f-ing insanity:


http://thepeskyfly.blogspot.com/2007/06/mr-conspiracy-says.html
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The alarming revelation was buried at the end of a Deutsche Press-Agentur news article about the ongoing battles between police and protesters at the global forum.

Sources told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa that US security men tested German security by trying to smuggle C4 plastic explosive past a checkpoint at Heiligendamm.

German surveillance machinery detected the tiny stash in a suitcase in a car and the Americans in plainclothes then identified themselves. German police declined comment.

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Testing German security. In the middle of a massive protest. Right. Try that with a pack of T-Bones at Wal-Mart. "Honestly officer, I was only testing Wal-Mart's security system... as part of a... research project, yeah! That's it! I wasn't really gonna steal them."

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2009, 06:05:20 PM »

Do you guys remember this complete f-ing insanity:


http://thepeskyfly.blogspot.com/2007/06/mr-conspiracy-says.html
Monday, June 11, 2007
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I wouldn't put it past them.

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The alarming revelation was buried at the end of a Deutsche Press-Agentur news article about the ongoing battles between police and protesters at the global forum.

Sources told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa that US security men tested German security by trying to smuggle C4 plastic explosive past a checkpoint at Heiligendamm.

German surveillance machinery detected the tiny stash in a suitcase in a car and the Americans in plainclothes then identified themselves. German police declined comment.

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Testing German security. In the middle of a massive protest. Right. Try that with a pack of T-Bones at Wal-Mart. "Honestly officer, I was only testing Wal-Mart's security system... as part of a... research project, yeah! That's it! I wasn't really gonna steal them."

This is why there are conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists.
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By the way,this was the G8 in Germany where they used Stasi scent profiling (you cannot make this shit up). Just imagine the kind of draconian infringements on humanity would have been enacted if the "US Security Forces" pulled off the false flag...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/may/23/g8.germany


Stasi scent-tracking methods are being used to keep a check on selected protesters planning to demonstrate at next month's G8 summit.

Scent traces collected directly from everything from people's palm sweat to their vests and cigarette lighters have been made available to investigators so that sniffer dogs can detect potentially violent protesters, federal prosecutors confirmed yesterday following reports in the German media.

"This has happened to several suspects," said Andreas Christeleit, a spokesman for the prosecutors. It is believed that most samples were collected during recent early-morning raids across Germany.

The revelations have immediately led to comparisons with the methods of the former East Germany's secret police, the Stasi, who habitually collected the scents of dissidents to identify suspects at a later date. It was thought that such chilling espionage techniques had been consigned to history.

But the news that similar methods are to be deployed at the upcoming summit in a democratic Germany has further angered activists already fuming over the construction of a 7.5-mile barbed-wire fence around the venue, at Heiligendamm on the Baltic coast.

"[This is] another step away from a democratic state of law towards a preventive security state," said Petra Pau, a member of the opposition Left party. "A state that adopts the methods of the East German Stasi robs itself of every legitimacy."

But according to experts it is as legal as collecting fingerprints. Scientists looking to expand the use of smell banks say it is possible to determine someone's age, their sex and any illnesses they might have through traces of their body odour.

A 68-year-old atomic energy protester from Hamburg, identified by police as a possible danger to the G8 summit, reported how investigators knocked on his door at 8am and demanded scent samples from him. The man said he was made to hold metal pipes in his hands - as palms give off an immediate scent - which were then sealed and marked with his name before being taken away.

The police have responded to the reports by saying that they are trying to find out the sender of letters confessing to 14 arson attacks in the Hamburg and Berlin areas which are believed to be connected to the anti-G8 movement. They hope that a scent register will help them to do so. Police say they suspect that the same people are planning fire bombs and other attacks on the June 6-8 meeting.

Summit opponents are trying through the courts to lift a ban on a so-called "star march" planned at Heiligendamm on June 7, introduced after an interior ministry decision to prevent protesters coming within five miles of the resort.

The number of car burnings in Berlin has risen considerably over the past fortnight as tension rises, as have incidences of anti-G8 graffiti.

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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2009, 06:06:35 PM »

Why is there an MSM blackout on this?

Quite simple really.

You can't take away anyone's rights for military explosive killing masses of people.  Because you cannot buy military explosives, there is no additional tracking and tracing that you can sell to the public based on this, because the public could never get their hands on this.

You can't demonize the Internet with it either, because you cannot buy C4 on the Internet.

No, the real threat is lipstick, eye shadow, face powders, creams, nail polish remover, foundation, and so on.  Because everyone can buy those, and you can create some new permanent boogey men and get the hologram Obama's reprobate lemming goon squads to report on you for so-called suspicious behavior because you are engaging in normal activities that people have since the history of when such items were invented.  YOu can get people conditioned to the GIG enslavement tracking system by making EVERYTHING (not just everyone anymore) a deadly potential to cause "terror" unless it is being analyzed by biochemical, radiological, infrared, olfactory sensor, ultra violet, x-ray, sound, AI algorithm signatures of every type of movement, etc.

But the nano-thermite used on 9/11 is perfectly fine and gets zero investigation, and 100 pounds of C4 gets no investigation, because it is far less deadly than H2O2, because it kills actual harmful germs and is thus antithetical in a world where eugenics must take precedence over all else.

The discovery of this prematurely kills their ability to blame it on something else had a false flag attack been carried out using C4.  And their silence on it makes them even less able to pull that off later on.

I was in E.O.D. in the military, C4 typically comes in 1/4lb rectangular sticks and is stored in multi-layered physical and electronic security locks inside heavily shielded bunkers with 3 foot thick blast doors where an officer remotely communicates with their base commander letting them know that they are accessing the explosives vault.  This is not shit that you casually are able to remove without detection, even one brick, much less 400 of them.

No doubt RAND Corporation is very pissed off that this was discovered before they could order it to be used for IED's in shopping malls to usher in more of their C4ISR weapons/surveillance grid architecture as laid out in PDF documents of theirs.
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2009, 06:10:23 PM »

Why is there an MSM blackout on this?

Quite simple really.

You can't take away anyone's rights for military explosive killing masses of people.  Because you cannot buy military explosives, there is no additional tracking and tracing that you can sell to the public based on this, because the public could never get their hands on this.

You can't demonize the Internet with it either, because you cannot buy C4 on the Internet.

No, the real threat is lipstick, eye shadow, face powders, creams, nail polish remover, foundation, and so on.  Because everyone can buy those, and you can create some new permanent boogey men and get the hologram Obama's reprobate lemming goon squads to report on you for so-called suspicious behavior because you are engaging in normal activities that people have since the history of when such items were invented.  YOu can get people conditioned to the GIG enslavement tracking system by making EVERYTHING (not just everyone anymore) a deadly potential to cause "terror" unless it is being analyzed by biochemical, radiological, infrared, olfactory sensor, ultra violet, x-ray, sound, AI algorithm signatures of every type of movement, etc.

But the nano-thermite used on 9/11 is perfectly fine and gets zero investigation, and 100 pounds of C4 gets no investigation, because it is far less deadly than H2O2, because it kills actual harmful germs and is thus antithetical in a world where eugenics must take precedence over all else.

The discovery of this prematurely kills their ability to blame it on something else had a false flag attack been carried out using C4.  And their silence on it makes them even less able to pull that off later on.

I was in E.O.D. in the military, C4 typically comes in 1/4lb rectangular sticks and is stored in multi-layered physical and electronic security locks inside heavily shielded bunkers with 3 foot thick blast doors where an officer remotely communicates with their base commander letting them know that they are accessing the explosives vault.  This is not shit that you casually are able to remove without detection, even one brick, much less 400 of them.

No doubt RAND Corporation is very pissed off that this was discovered before they could order it to be used for IED's in shopping malls to usher in more of their C4ISR weapons/surveillance grid architecture as laid out in PDF documents of theirs.

Holy shit AI,that is Pulitzer Prize winning material!

And it is fricking TRUE (unlike the many awards given to global warming and terrorism snake oil salesmen)!!!!
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2009, 06:13:01 PM »

The new show "V" just mentioned a terror cell trying to acquire a large quantity of C4.........coincidink>>??  Nah!!!
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2009, 06:17:29 PM »

The new show "V" just mentioned a terror cell trying to acquire a large quantity of C4.........coincidink>>??  Nah!!!

V?

is that the  show where they display 40 year old Rockefeller/Rothschild technology and say that it is aliens?
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V?

is that the  show where they display 40 year old Rockefeller/Rothschild technology and say that it is aliens?

Not sure but they are mentioning C4 every 5 seconds..............
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2009, 06:27:27 PM »

Not sure but they are mentioning C4 every 5 seconds..............

if they mention UAV's bombing schools like Family Guy and NCIS did then I am TiVo'ing it!

but shit really, fricking C4?

Germany in 2007 exposed how they have C4  detecting machines everywhere. With our super secret NRO satellites (which caused the last head of the NRO to resign in disgust) we can probably sniff out a nanoparticle anywhere in the world. These psychos think we do not read!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2009, 06:46:38 PM »

I think this is the biggest story right now we need to do what we can to be the media on this people need to know, especially if a c4 false flag is in the making. This is huge!!
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An FBI spokesman said investigators don't think the explosives were connected to domestic or international terrorism.


 Nah why would that be a consideration Roll Eyes
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2009, 07:00:31 PM »


An FBI spokesman said investigators don't think the explosives were connected to domestic or international terrorism.


 Nah why would that be a consideration Roll Eyes

Yup, is just gonna do some fishing later at the neighborhood pond.

And he is being held in a "county jail".

Special ops from Fort Cambell with 100 lbs of military grade (unidentifiable) C4 sitting in a county jail.

DID DICK CHENEY TELL HIM TO HOLD ON TO IT?

HOW IS THIS GUY NOT ON THE COVER OF EVERY TV STATION?

HOW IS THERE NOT SOME F-ING ALERT?

If there was ever a need for a terrorist color coding alert system now is the f-ing time.

I mean really, we need to have a false flag alert system in place. This is completely insane, AI hit the nail on the head. This absolutely proves that all of Homeland Security is utter fraud and just a matrix of security while all the money is funnelled to banksters and enhanced Ptech type control grids for future fun.
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2009, 07:04:37 PM »

any V comments not related to C4 predictive programming, please place into this thread:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=142861.0

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I mean really, we need to have a false flag alert system in place. This is completely insane, AI hit the nail on the head. This absolutely proves that all of Homeland Security is utter fraud and just a matrix of security while all the money is funnelled to banksters and enhanced Ptech type control grids for future fun.


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An FBI spokesman said investigators don't think the explosives were connected to domestic or international terrorism.


 Nah why would that be a consideration Roll Eyes

They didn't consider this as terrorism either:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=129479.msg795158#msg795158

It never had a terror connotation given to it, but it was, because it was a deliberate attack (allegedly, as "a test") against the power grid, and it certainly had all of the NWO solutions fall right into place in its wake.

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An FBI spokesman said investigators don't think the explosives were connected to domestic or international terrorism.


 Nah why would that be a consideration Roll Eyes

Yeah he was probably trying to kill one of those pesky groundhogs like in caddy shack.
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2009, 07:34:37 PM »

A bit more of a detailed story here.

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=11424112

CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. - An Army Special Forces soldier has been arrested following the discovery of 100 pounds of explosives at his Tennessee home in Montgomery County.

Timothy Ryan Richards appeared in federal court Monday in Nashville on charges of possessing two unregistered guns.

Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent Eric Kehn said he expects Richards will face more charges related to the discovery of the explosives.

Two hunters stumbled upon 100 pounds of C-4 Sunday night at the solider's farm on Johnson Road. The house is located near the Fort Campbell, Ky., Army post where the solider is based.

The explosives were found in crates. The material was sealed in watertight containers and partially buried.

Maj. April Olsen, a spokeswoman for Army Special Forces at Fort Campbell, said the solider is currently being held in the county jail.

The Montgomery County Sheriff's Bomb Squad was called out to investigate along with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the FBI.

Ted Denny, spokesman for the Montgomery County sheriff, said the explosives found late Sunday evening appeared to be military ordinance.

An FBI spokesman said investigators don't think the explosives were connected to domestic or international terrorism.

Richards' age and rank weren't immediately available.






What sort of damage can 100 lbs of c4 do?

A hundred pounds of any high explosive is a good time, that much could make a big mess. Add blasting agents to the mix and a couple pounds of C-4 with a half ton of blasting agent is a serious issue.

People do use explosives for recreation, happens all the time in Arizona. The big shoots I go to all have explosives and people to handle them.
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Yup, is just gonna do some fishing later at the neighborhood pond.

And he is being held in a "county jail".

Special ops from Fort Cambell with 100 lbs of military grade (unidentifiable) C4 sitting in a county jail.

DID DICK CHENEY TELL HIM TO HOLD ON TO IT?

HOW IS THIS GUY NOT ON THE COVER OF EVERY TV STATION?

HOW IS THERE NOT SOME F-ING ALERT?

If there was ever a need for a terrorist color coding alert system now is the f-ing time.

I mean really, we need to have a false flag alert system in place. This is completely insane, AI hit the nail on the head. This absolutely proves that all of Homeland Security is utter fraud and just a matrix of security while all the money is funnelled to banksters and enhanced Ptech type control grids for future fun.

Doesn't everyone fish with explosives?
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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2009, 08:01:02 PM »

A hundred pounds of any high explosive is a good time, that much could make a big mess. Add blasting agents to the mix and a couple pounds of C-4 with a half ton of blasting agent is a serious issue.

People do use explosives for recreation, happens all the time in Arizona. The big shoots I go to all have explosives and people to handle them.

100lbs or untraceable military grade C4 by secret special ops soldiers who will never be identified because of anti-National Security insanity?

Happens all the time?

Really?

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« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2009, 08:18:56 PM »

Umm actually you know whats weird about this story, dont military people who get arrested get transfered to military brig or stockades which equals a county jail, why inst he there ummm.
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« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2009, 10:01:38 PM »

Sounds to me like he stole it from the Military to sell it or to save for a rainy day. "100lbs or untraceable military grade C4" What makes you think Military C4 is untraceable... that'd be extremely stupid on their part. http://www.vectorsite.net/tpchem_13.html#m5

I'm sure there is some black-ops stuff that isn't tagged but to assume it was that is just... lame.

That's how they found that Weathermen bomber, ain't it? Marked dynamite? Pretty sure everything made since then has markers in it.

Aha, a dubious result:

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Containing the Threat from Illegal Bombings: An Integrated National Strategy for Marking, Tagging, Rendering Inert, and Licensing Explosives and Their Precursors obtain a license,7,8 and mandating that explosives be purchased in the local canton and that sales records (name and signature required) be kept for 5 years;9 (2) mandating that all storers of explosives lock them up in magazines (large users) or day boxes (small users)10—this law intentionally reduced the number of explosives retailers from 200 or 300 to fewer than 50; and (3) requiring that materials manufactured for use as explosives (dynamites, slurries, water gels, ammonium nitrate/fuel oil (ANFO), black powder for blasting) be tagged.11 Neither military materials nor exported explosives are tagged, but imported explosives are."

You might be right... I'll keep looking due to boredom.

"Title V of H.R.1710 implements the International Civil

Aviation Organization (ICAO) Convention on the Marking of

Plastic Explosives by requiring all plastic explosives

manufactured in, or imported into, the United States to

contain a so called "detection" taggant. A detection taggant

is a chemical additive which odorizes the plastic and sheet

explosives so they can be detected by sensitive machines at

airports and other security points."

IME supports this provision. In fact, IME worked with

government officials to assist in identifying a feasible and

safe additive for use in U.S. plastic explosives."
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« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2009, 10:22:50 PM »

Panel Rejects Adding Markers to Explosives

"The Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 authorized the Treasury Department to study tagging explosives either for early detection or to help trace explosives after bombings. The department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms asked the National Research Council, part of the National Academy of Sciences, to examine the issues and it convened two committees to conduct studies.

In a report released in March, the first committee looking at commercial high-grade explosives, like dynamite and military plastic explosives and chemical fertilizer used to make explosives, concluded that it was impractical to put markers into this material. It called for more research into cost, safety and effectiveness questions before considering such additives for wide use."
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/05/us/panel-rejects-adding-markers-to-explosives.html


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070803110428AABPT4H
"Yes, explosives have a fingerprint, and no, it is not a chemical analysis process. TNT manufacurers have to mix in tiny inert "taggants", color-coded to manufacturer and batch. I am not sure if other types of explosives are included at this point, but there has been a big push to make it happen.

About 30 years ago, 3M came up with the microtaggant, a tiny, resilient plastic marker that measures one-tenth of a millimeter across. The multi-colored chips are unique to a manufacturer and can be used to identify a product's date of production and distributor. Today, the largest manufacturer of taggants is Microtrace. The EPA uses them to identify illegal industrial hazardous waste disposal. Polaroid (they make a lot more than film) uses taggant technology in identifications such as driver's licenses and passports. A pharmaceutical company is using microtaggants on labels to combat counterfeiting. Taggants are fluorescent, magnetic, chemically inert, and able to withstand heat and explosions. This makes them ideal for the purpose of tracking an commercial explosive's source after detonation.

Bomb-scene investigators use an ultraviolet light or magnet to locate the taggants, then consult a database to match the color-coding with the manufacturer's information."

After reading quite a bit... they add chemicals that dogs can pick up and scanning machines -- but they don't add identification chemicals to be found after explosion. Least that's what I gather, each person says something different.

But... if it was a future black-op they'd just bury the findings under a mountain of National Security claims. Alas I don't think you'd hear about it in the news... and they wouldn't fry their little underling.

Hence I think he actually stole it.
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