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« on: November 01, 2009, 03:54:39 PM »

Alex mentioned on his Sunday, November 1st radio show an article (it could have been a video) where some reporter said anti-vaccine people are conspiracy theorists with bad genes, and that it will be great when they all get killed because that will free up the gene pool...

As of now.... there are no signs that swine flu is deadly to regular people (as opposed to those with compromised immune systems).

But.. this thing could develop into something much worse.

So... what if there is something to this? What if the swine flu becomes deadly on a mass-scale? Would you take the vaccine at this point?

I personally am not taking the vaccine right now, but I might change my mind if this becomes massively deadly, and when I say that, I don't mean the annual thousands that die in the flu season, but rather, on the scale of millions. At this point I would change my mind about the vaccine? What about you?
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 03:58:10 PM »

Alex mentioned on his Sunday, November 1st radio show an article (it could have been a video) where some reporter said anti-vaccine people are conspiracy theorists with bad genes, and that it will be great when they all get killed because that will free up the gene pool...

Said reporter is stupid.

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As of now.... there are no signs that swine flu is deadly to regular people (as opposed to those with compromised immune systems).

But.. this thing could develop into something much worse.

It won't.  At least not without something else.  Say, something injected.

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So... what if there is something to this? What if the swine flu becomes deadly on a mass-scale? Would you take the vaccine at this point?

If they somehow made it to be deadly on a mass-scale, you can be sure they won't give out good vaccines.  It isn't a matter of only killing "Conspiracy theorists" but of killing people in general.

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I personally am not taking the vaccine right now, but I might change my mind if this becomes massively deadly, and when I say that, I don't mean the annual thousands that die in the flu season, but rather, on the scale of millions. At this point I would change my mind about the vaccine? What about you?

It's just not going to happen.  Even if there is a mass death, it won't be from the "swine" flu but caused by something else (or as a binary weapon).  The vaccine won't save you.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 03:58:37 PM »

Nope.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 04:04:09 PM »

You're going to listen to a reportwhore who is spreading a conspiracy theory about conspiracy theorists?
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 04:07:12 PM »

I agree with Ghost. Swine flu is just like the regular flu. You get sick for about a week or so and then you get better (most of the time)

I know I won't be getting the vaccine...EVER! after reading everything about it. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 04:08:04 PM »

I think that if its killing millions of people it will probably be too late to get a shot. So don't worry about it.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 04:08:55 PM »

I'll take my chances with the flu, the shot looks more deadly. Read all of AI and Pilikia's posts before making your mind up. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 04:10:04 PM »

What if colloidal silver will kill you? Or make you stupid. Mark Purdey found that silver crystals used in cloud seeding caused chronic wasting disease in wild animals (forget Barium salts, silver salts are the main cloud seeding metal (nano-silver will form crystals in your body when it reacts and bonds, see how easy it tarnishes)

http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/madcow4.html
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 04:29:04 PM »

Never mind ANY of this!
You guys are driving yourselves nuts!
silver yes silver no vaccine yes vaccine no conspiracy yes conspiracy no live or die yes no suffer disease yes no stupid yes brainwash no maybe

whew! Do yourselves a favor, take a deep breath!

Just live your life as best as you can, do the work that is in front of you as well as you can, eat well, act with kindness, take care of your responsibilities and love your family.

Stand down fear, it is an endless pit and will make you crazy and sick.

Balance Alex Jones with something uplifting and spiritual...
If you are listening incessantly and obsessively, take a break and go out and buy someone a meal, give away a blanket or a coat, talk to a shut in: it will shock you out of the fear mode and into something finer.

good luck
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 01:04:32 AM »

I'm pissed off with those who criticize Alex for spreading fear. If you aren't afraid of people injectin you with squaline, then you are asleep and out of your mind!

Its like, if you knew somebody was planning to lynch you. You'd be insane to walk down the street skipping, whistling, wearing dayglo clothes. You'd be clinically insane, no, what you'd do is make sure you were locked and loaded, hidden, and not being followed.

When a deer hears a hunter fall out of a tree and hears a gun go off, is it crazy for being scared and running away?

FEAR IS A LEGITIMATE HUMAN EMOTION. It only becomes dangerous if you suppress it, because eventually it takes over and controls you. If you embrace and meditate on your fears, then you get to see them objectively and retain control of your faculties. So, enough of this wishy washy new age, limp wristed, nonsense and fear vs love already!!
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 01:13:15 AM »

The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine. - Mike Adams
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 01:45:12 AM »

Somebody had this idea some time ago: what if they suddenly release a really deadly virus to wipe out us the rebels? This, of course, assuming the vaccine would actually protect you from it, and we wouldn't take it.

In any case, I'm not taking the shot.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2009, 01:53:50 AM »

Alex mentioned on his Sunday, November 1st radio show an article (it could have been a video) where some reporter said anti-vaccine people are conspiracy theorists with bad genes, and that it will be great when they all get killed because that will free up the gene pool...

As of now.... there are no signs that swine flu is deadly to regular people (as opposed to those with compromised immune systems).

But.. this thing could develop into something much worse.

So... what if there is something to this? What if the swine flu becomes deadly on a mass-scale? Would you take the vaccine at this point?

I personally am not taking the vaccine right now, but I might change my mind if this becomes massively deadly, and when I say that, I don't mean the annual thousands that die in the flu season, but rather, on the scale of millions. At this point I would change my mind about the vaccine? What about you?

Just a thought...the priority parameters for vaccine may give us some clue as to what could be going on here, if in fact the swine flu has been designed to achieve some nefarious social agenda. Individuals over the age of 64 are NOWHERE on the priority list of individuals to receive the vaccine (unless perhaps they could prove that they regularly took care of a baby aged 6 months or less). Take into consideration the fact that social security and medicade and medicare are a major drain on the federal government. If this flu combined with something more leathal, and the vaccination guidelines (set forth by the CDC) remained the same, H1N1 has the potential to wipe out a substantial percentage of the population that is draining the coffers of the US government, with the added benefit of wiping out many of those with anecdotal evidence of the lay out of the Great Depression, meanwhile thaking it's toll on all of those who have an objection to the vaccine.

My thoughts are in no way intended to encourage anyone to get the vaccine. I personally will not get the vaccine, although I have family members with underlying conditions that I will inform but not attempt to dissuade, the choice is theirs.

On some level I believe that if the government had a part in the creation of the swine flu, their purpose would be to achieve something larger and more beneficial to the continuance of the government. Bigger than squashing the conspiracy theory movement, especially when the existance of the conspiracy theory movement actually assists the government in gaining backing mearly by attaching negative labeling to conspiracy theories and theoriests through it's media outlets.

I hope I haven't pissed people off by revealing this perspective.  It is not my belief, but I do believe that it is a possibility. Government by it's very narure lacks a soul, it's purpose eventually becomes it's own continuance. Naturally it must present a semblence of what those who are governed have come to expect, but that it can gradually change and degenerate over generations is evident to anyone who takes an honest look at history.
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2009, 01:57:36 AM »

Nope, I'd just avoid everyone if millions were dying.
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2009, 06:58:08 AM »

Somebody had this idea some time ago: what if they suddenly release a really deadly virus to wipe out us the rebels? This, of course, assuming the vaccine would actually protect you from it, and we wouldn't take it.

In any case, I'm not taking the shot.

would that have been my post?

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get the people deliberately so scared of vaccines that most refuse them and then pull a 180 and actually release a real pandemic so that only the ones in the know survive by having a real vaccine....

sorry im just trying to think like a globalist....... the old problem (us) reaction (deliberately leaked vaccine conspiracies) solution (the above).

just a thought... and sorry for the head f**k.

from this thread?
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=118307.msg734720#msg734720

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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2009, 07:13:31 AM »

No vaccine--period.

I have the flu right now, the first couple of nights were hell, but I am over the hump, so to speak, and on the road to recovery by treating myself with natural remedies. 

Organic Chicken soup (not in a can), Organic Green Tea with Manuka honey and double doses of Vitamin D3.
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2009, 07:23:24 AM »

you looked into putting a few drops of clove oil on a simple paper face mask? inhalation of clove oil is supposed to kill the bacteria in the lung lining. ( do not consume it as its poisonous at small amounts. )

apparently its antioxidant count is through the roof like goji berries and it was the major ingredient in thieves oil. ( thieves oil is apparently what the thieves who robed the dead during the plague used to protect them selves while picking the pockets of the fallen. ) 
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2009, 07:44:21 AM »

The U.S. govt regularly carpet-bombs civilians.

The U.S. govt is contriving a euthanizing system and calling it "healthcare."

The U.S. govt covered up the truth about 9/11.

The U.S. govt gave smallpox-infected blankets to American Indians.

If you take an injection of something the U.S. govt offers you, then you are insane.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2009, 07:52:34 AM »

Never mind ANY of this!
You guys are driving yourselves nuts!
silver yes silver no vaccine yes vaccine no conspiracy yes conspiracy no live or die yes no suffer disease yes no stupid yes brainwash no maybe

whew! Do yourselves a favor, take a deep breath!

Just live your life as best as you can, do the work that is in front of you as well as you can, eat well, act with kindness, take care of your responsibilities and love your family.

Stand down fear, it is an endless pit and will make you crazy and sick.

Balance Alex Jones with something uplifting and spiritual...
If you are listening incessantly and obsessively, take a break and go out and buy someone a meal, give away a blanket or a coat, talk to a shut in: it will shock you out of the fear mode and into something finer.

good luck


I totally agree with you. You can't hold yourself hostage to fear of anything. Go out and live, be conscious of what is happening, yet LIVING a happy wholesome life. Help someone in need. You won't have to look far to find someone. Thank you DMH for the rational thoughts.
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2009, 08:12:01 AM »

I was scared of the Big Bad FLU -


So I went down to the local CVS and asked them to give me a flu shot

Once I got the live virus injected into me I would be safe from the Virus.

I asked the nice flu shot lady to go ahead and inject it directly into my eyeballs, This way I won't have to See any flu. I wont see anybody dying or suffering from the Big Bad FLU

Who's afraid of the Big Bad FLU , the Big Bad FLU , Its YOU!!



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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2009, 08:28:27 AM »

Somebody had this idea some time ago: what if they suddenly release a really deadly virus to wipe out us the rebels? This, of course, assuming the vaccine would actually protect you from it, and we wouldn't take it.

In any case, I'm not taking the shot.

This is what I have wondered as well... keep the sheeple healthy and the truthers die out.

Regardless, I will never take the shot. If I die, I die. We all die and there's no need to fear it. I will not comply.
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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2009, 09:03:53 AM »

This is an amazing piece of disinformation used to target people who know that Baxter/DoD/Kissinger has been working on AIDS II for a long time.

The best way to spread their new disease is to mainline it into millions.

They did this in Africa to create the AIDS pandemic and they are doing it again now.

Anti_Illuminati goes into detail about how the agenda is to have vaccine takers to fight vaccine abstainers.

The MSM is working desperately to call vaccine abstainers crazy racist republican whackos, but Bill Maher just came out against the vaccine which throws a wrench into their absurdity.

This is now like the 10th time this whisper comes out about a conspiracy so insane it defies logic.

They will never release such a toxic virus, they always need to control things. Whatg is being proposed is that a virus so deadly is released by the MIC/NWO that it will likely kill all humans/animals/vegitation unles some secret vaccine is given.

This goes against over 50 years of planning by the NWO to introduce vaccines and to categorize who lives and who dies by coontrolling the distribution of vaccines.

Although it may cater to the ignorant, the theory is so full of bullshit, I can smell it through my keyboard. I mean let's play this through: So a deadly disease is spread to the world by the NWO and the NWO hasthe only vaccine (which will not work for those infected only those not infected). Do you think the NWO is going to give anyoneone under sub-elite slaves the actual vaccine? Why? They are so psychopathic to kill 7 billion, but for some reason will save you and I if we comply and beg for the vaccine? Even though it is so much easier to target demographics with the vaccine like they did with AIDS through the polio vaccine in africa and the hepatitis vaccine targeting homosexuals.

Now, again there are risks with their insanity and people should be working on exposing this obviously manufactured virus rather than trying to win a geopolitical chessgame with psychopaths like kissinger and brzezinski. They want us to play these games rather than continuing to shine a bright light on their crimes against humanity.
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« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2009, 09:09:32 AM »

What if colloidal silver will kill you? Or make you stupid. Mark Purdey found that silver crystals used in cloud seeding caused chronic wasting disease in wild animals (forget Barium salts, silver salts are the main cloud seeding metal (nano-silver will form crystals in your body when it reacts and bonds, see how easy it tarnishes)

http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/madcow4.html

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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2009, 09:47:37 AM »

Even more reason to fear the damn swine flu vaccine...

The following article appears on page 444 of William Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse.

It was originally in the August 1, 1989 edition of The Sun.

BIG BROTHER'S COMING!
Revealed: Secret plan to tag every man, woman and child
by JOE FRICK

CODED MICROCHIPS implanted in every person in the country would tie all of us into a master computer that could track anyone down at any moment, and plans for such a system are already under way whether you like it or not!

The secret scheme is being touted as a service for the protection of the people by high government officials, but some insiders who object to the move say it's just another way for Big Brother to control its subjects.

Transmitters

"Top-level national security agents are trying to convince sources in the Bush Administration to begin the project in which every man, woman and child will be implanted with a tiny transmitter," claims Davis Milerand, a critic of government intervention who says he has received leaked information from inside sources.

"They're trying to say this will be a good way for authorities to quickly track down missing persons and children, as well as criminals and spies.

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"But with the astounding technology of today, everything about you could be contained in one tiny microchip, which would be connected to a government computer.

"Any government agency will know what any person has done and is doing at any time."

Other sources say the tiny transmitters can be injected painlessly from a tiny gun in humans without them even knowing it through a nationwide vaccination program.

"All the government would have to do is make up something like the swine flu vaccine," Milerand says.

"Imagine if they said there was a vaccine for AIDS.  People would rush in droves to get shots.

"The doctors themselves may not even know what they're injecting.  They could be told the microchips are genetic implants that reprogram the body into fighting disease."

He adds:  "The program would require all federal, state and local government workers to undergo the injections.

"It would only be a matter of time before everyone is implanted with a microchip, a slave to the government."


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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2009, 09:50:56 AM »

As Luckee1 highlighted....


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"But with the astounding technology of today, everything about you could be contained in one tiny microchip, which would be connected to a government computer.

"Any government agency will know what any person has done and is doing at any time."

Other sources say the tiny transmitters can be injected painlessly from a tiny gun in humans without them even knowing it through a nationwide vaccination program.

"All the government would have to do is make up something like the swine flu vaccine," Milerand says.

"Imagine if they said there was a vaccine for AIDS.  People would rush in droves to get shots.

"The doctors themselves may not even know what they're injecting.  They could be told the microchips are genetic implants that reprogram the body into fighting disease."

He adds:  "The program would require all federal, state and local government workers to undergo the injections.

"It would only be a matter of time before everyone is implanted with a microchip, a slave to the government."


My God this was printed in 1989!!  No one understood!
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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2009, 10:42:54 AM »

The MSM is working desperately to call vaccine abstainers crazy racist republican whackos, but Bill Maher just came out against the vaccine which throws a wrench into their absurdity.

"WTF MAHER, YOU f**kED UP OUR AI ATTACK VECTORS/OODA LOOP PROCESS, DAMMIT, NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Do you think the NWO is going to give anyoneone under sub-elite slaves the actual vaccine?

There is nothing on this Earth that cannot be cured, or effectively protected against through natural means.

That is the reason for CODEX.  That is the reason the FDA is freaking the f*ck out about colloidal (or nano) silver.  

The NWO has already created nanotechnologically engineered viruses, such as Morgellon's--that can ONLY be cured with the aforementioned, because it disrupts their electrical continuity, and the MACHINES die.

There is no such thing as "the real vaccine", not for this, not for anything.  Everyone should remove the word "vaccine" from their vocabulary and begin their mass deprogramming of that heavily engrained lie just like the word "terror" (in the context that it has been shoved down our throats millions of times).

The NWO now has too many enemies for them to be able to be in a position to be so selective in their eugenics.  NSPD-51 wasn't written up as a response to deal with retaliation of surgical precision removal of specific demographics, it was done for catastrophic decapitation of the remaining carcass that is the Republic.  The greatest threat to the NWO is not people surviving their bioweapons, it is the ability for humanity to globally collaborate, and forge a spear of truth wherein which all of the masks of the real enemy come off, and are sublimated out into real world action.  The NWO fears the free flow of information over all else, because the Internet serves as a persistent court of public opinion--where the real facts can be accessed, and fake differences, and unfruitful infighting become recognized by the perpetrators themselves as such.

That is why their bioweapon attack plans were co-engineered years ago to include cyber attacks.  A staged "necessary shutdown" to allegedly serve as life-raft to hold the fledgling strands of the illusionary government together, whilst the real government, the shadow government is in zero danger, and at that point, will be the phoenix stretching out its vast wings of terror, as the smoke and ashes billow off as it soars into the air.  The grids come fully online right down into the local level of every aspect of your life.  And your life is now administered under a virtual government dictatorship under the UN/Bilderberg, and there is no escape.  Because "Continuity of Government" means:  "Keeping the shadow government alive, while we destroy every last remnant of your Constitutional government, permanently."
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2009, 11:23:52 AM »

Yep I remember reading pale horse 20 years ago about the chip in the flu vac, interesting now looking back the swine flu was the possible scenario, can't make this shit up!

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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2009, 11:44:04 AM »

So is it possible the chip is already in the vaccine?
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2009, 11:50:20 AM »

So is it possible the chip is already in the vaccine?

All things are at least possible, but generally not probable. However I haven't seen any direct evidence for it... but it's not like they'd advertise that.
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