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« on: October 27, 2009, 03:35:41 PM »

Former executive (CEO) who is over 85 years old confessed to Lindsey Williams the following in October 2009:  This is a summary of the radio interview Lindsey Williams gave on the Alex Jones radio show on October 19th, October 20th and October 23rd 2009 (available at www.infowars.com and on i-Tunes as a downloadable Podcast).

•   Within 2 years you will not recognize America.
•   They (NWO elite) have altered their timeline
•   After two years you will be so poor you will not be able to rebel
•   Inflation will escalate over a period of 2 years by designed plan
•   Scheduled of events in chronological order
o    Inflation will escalate over the next 2 years,
o   Oil will remain about same until the planned war in Iran and other areas in Middle East,
o   Gold and silver are all you can rely on as far as money,
o   by 2012 the dollar will be dead,
o   War is planned after 2 years (where it will start and spread is already chosen-Iran region will be        beginning over Iran and Israel then spread throughout the world,
o   When planned war in 2 years comes, gas at the pump will go to $7, $8 and/or $10 dollars a gallon almost overnight
•   The elite have altered their timeline because we gave them 2.5 trillion dollars the last 2 months of the Bush administration.  They created an artificial crisis  and a created solution (Hegelian Dialectic) just before the end of the Bush administration to get Congress to give them the funds to them (they used economic terrorism where they created the problem and the solution)
•   Within 2 years nearly everyone will be working for the government (auto, banks, healthcare, etc. all under government control). Obama is now CEO of General Motors, Chrysler, (and will be head of all the banks and health care system as well).  Obama said every company that has been bailed out by the U.S. Gov is going to be required to cut top salaries by 90% (Alex interjected that these are really mid level managers, the billionaire shareholders won’t be touched-this is simply setting the precedent for wage control for all of us).  The banks will be whittled down to 9 major banks, all bailed out and under full government control.
•   The ex-CEO kept using the term “the Devil’s Messiah”
•   They are working through the pastors and churches of America along with Homeland Security
•   Buzzwords (phrases), exact statements used by the ex-CEO elitist
o   War brought the country out of the depression,
o   Turmoil in the middle east 2 years from now,
o   Iran’s external enemy Israel,
o   Crude oil will stay $70 to $50 (a barrel) until the next crisis in the Middle East  (which they already have planned out),
o   Within 2 years nearly everyone will be working for the government
•   Exec went into how the elite (Satan’s elite) have enlisted the churches and pastors in America in general, used the expression “Devil’s Messiah” and how they have gotten the churches and pastors to fall in line since 1965.
•   Jones references Charlotte Iserbyt’s father who was Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, etc, and how he accepted Jesus and then confessed to her with tears that the world government was run by Satanists and how he wished he had the health to go to other members he was involved with to try and persuade them that this path was not the way to go (Satan’s NWO path).  Charlotte Iserbyt was the whistle blower who wrote the expose on the NWO's plan to use the education system to dumb down America, she wrote the book “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” available online free.
•   Mentioned how Homeland Security has requested of the pastors hand out forms to their congregation to get personal information from their congregations about the people’s salary, number of  people in the house, the number of computers in their homes, etc, and to make this information available to them (Homeland Security) upon request.  Lindsey saw recently a brochure being passed out at a church.  Clergy response team secret documents-revealed first by Pastor Butch Pauff -tell flock to turn in guns, go to camps, Romans 13, telling the congregation “it’s of the Lord to go to the camps”, to follow whomever the president is.  Dripping Springs big Baptist Church passed out memo instructing people not to speak about political topics at the church even if you are having dinner with them.
•   The elite plan on narrowing all banks down to just 9 which they control fully
•   Regarding God, the elite contact said the elite had to take away America’s God,
o   got rid of the McGuffy Reader, which was the first textbook of the American schools to teach people to read the Bible,
o   Said they had to remove the God of America before they could ever conquer the republic.
o   Original Webster Dictionary written for the purpose for maintaining the language of the Scriptures
o   The “Devil’s Messiah” he was referring to was the system used to get rid of all things righteous
o   Caused human beings to believe they were nothing but revolutionized animals so they would act like animals
o   1964 and 1965 saw the beginning subversions of America’s churches via 501C3   organizational status, required it as of 1967, some refused, including Lindsey where he was a pastor in Hollywood Florida
o   “Separation of Church and State” is not in the Constitution-it was made up by the elite to get God out of areas.
o   Mentioned quote of (10-20-09) patriot Major General Smedley Butler whom Eisenhower called a man among men: “War is a racket, it always has been, it is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious, it is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars while the losses in lives. Only a small inside group knows what it is about.  It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.”  This quote is what Lindsey thought of upon hearing from his contact regarding war being planned after 2 years (from October 2009) to break out in the Middle East, likely Iran first.
o    Major General Smedley Butler was a two time Congressional Medal of Honor winner who took over various nations throughout the world for the globalists) who was approached by the globalists in the mid 1930’s and asked him to lead a coupe of the United States and link up with Hitler with Butler leading an army of 500,000 soldiers to take over the United States. General Butler tried to warn America of the plan of the elite to make America a Nazi style nation in the McCormack-Dickstein Committee where he blew the whistle.
o   The mass media and talk show hosts (like Alex Jones etc) will be the last touched-because they need their own propaganda media, if they shut Alex and other talk show hosts down, they would highlight what Alex and others have been saying, they just ignore it, until the next war crisis-planned, then they will take down the opposition talks shows-it will be the end, in 2 years or less they plan on the full takeover to be complete by the time they start the planned war in Iran and other areas of the globe.

•   Lindsey said the only thing that will turn this around will be divine intervention
•   The elite do have a code of ethics, not the same as ours, they are not atheists, but they do not serve our God/Christ.  They must let you know what they are going to do before they do it.  Just 2 weeks before Katrina hit New Orleans, they came out, with the movie Oil Storm and everything that happened in New Orleans was in the movie, Hollywood is their mouthpiece and perversion.  Watch war movies coming out from Hollywood over the next two years to see what they are preparing.
•   There will be a big increase in the stock market, it is a trap (falsely inflated) to set the next collapse.
•   Gold and silver will escalate rapidly due to dollar collapse and devaluation, Gold and silver is all you can rely on as far as money. This (gold) is what the elite rely on.
•   This elite ex-CEO of one of the top oil companies said that they will foreshadow everything they will do through the Hollywood movies coming out (over the next two years).
•   They admit to 9Trillion dollars in debt (over 24 Trillion now but not officially admitted by the Government), the debt is not important, the important part is the interest on the national debt and that someone must buy the interest on the national debt (it is bought by the treasury of the United States issues T-Bills and Securities/Treasury Bonds) When nations no longer use American dollars for crude oil, they will no longer buy treasury reserve (T-Bills and securities). The Fed’s policy of Monetizing the Debt will collapse the dollar as soon as the nations back out of T-Bills.  This is what the Argentina, Zimbabwe, and what the Weimar Republic in Germany did in the 1930s.
•   CRUDE OIL-The elite will not allow any of the massive oil reserves in Alaska to come to the United States refineries.  They may open the reserves North of Russia if crude oil continues to go up to bring the price back down (currently around $80 a barrel in Oct of 2009).
•   Everything that happened to Iceland will come to the United States
•   TWO 2 last big things they are going to do just before the final push is GUN CONTROL and then shutting down the talk show hosts such as Alex Jones- the media (Jones said that Hitler did this last too because this is the canary in the coal mine that alerts people to the tyranny, so they leave it alone until the end).
•   Alex Jones mentioned that the elite will get close to 100 million out of jobs and point these newly poor people against the middle class as a weapon against the middle class being portrayed as “the rich” while the ultra rich elite loot everybody and run pay cuts on the middle class, upper middle class, and novae riche, the elite will sic the poor and disenfranchised against anyone with money except the ultra rich.  Alex mentioned that the elite want a Soviet purge in America, with a tiny elite and the rest of us slaves, with bureaucrats moving into our homes (Alex mentioned stories every couple of days he’s read with environmental cops moving into peoples’ homes they have stolen.)  He also mentioned to SWAT teams and police that the elite have a bad job for them, and when they are all wiped out, the elite will march out the I4 foreign troops as outlined in FEMA documents NLE09 
•   Alex Jones mentions how Department of Homeland Security document in the MIAC report which stated that all veterans, conservatives, gun owners, libertarians, (and they also listed Ron Paul supporters) were their number one enemies.
•   On the Friday Oct 23rd show with Bob Chapman (economist of the International Forecaster), Chapman outlines how in phase 2 gold will likely go up in price to between $2500 to $3000 per ounce, and in phase 3 it should go up to between $6700 to $7100 per ounce (Bob Chapman said economist John Williams-wonderful economist).  Chapman said official inflation is at $6700 per ounce based on 1980’s $850 per once high.

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 04:44:45 PM »

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Below is an updated version of the original post, a handful of typo corrections and some expanded sections...

Former elite executive (CEO) of a major oil company who is over 85 years old confessed to Pastor Lindsey Williams the following in October 2009:  This is a summary of the radio interview Lindsey Williams gave on the Alex Jones radio show on October 19th, October 20th and October 23rd 2009 (available at www.infowars.com and on i-Tunes as a downloadable Podcast).

Lindsey was told 3 months in advance in the summer of 2008 that oil was going to go below 50 dollars a barrel at a time when it was then currently at $147 per barrel and predicted at that time by market analysts to go up to around $200.  Lindsey came on the Alex Jones show with this information in July 28th of 2008 and indeed 3 months later oil crashed to well below $50 a barrel, dipping as low as the $30’s.  As Lindsey’s contact outlined, it was due to stay in decline for about a year.  Lindsey lived with the elite as chaplain and board member on the Trans-Alaskan pipeline for 3 years about 30 years ago and wrote a landmark book titled “The Energy Non-Crisis”.   

Lindsey believes this elite contact is giving this information to him by the grace of God, as this man is most likely facing death soon and may be having a change of heart with respect to what he as been involved in over these many years.

Here are the highlights from the 3 days of interviews of October 19th, 20th, and 23rd 2009:

•   Within 2 years you will not recognize America.
•   They (NWO elite) have altered their timeline
•   After two years you will be so poor you will not be able to rebel
•   Inflation will escalate over a period of 2 years by designed plan
•   Schedule of events in chronological order
o    Inflation will escalate over the next 2 years,
o   Oil will remain about same until the planned war in Iran and other areas in Middle East
o   Gold and silver are all you can rely on as far as money,
o   by 2012 the dollar will be dead,
o   War is planned after 2 years (where it will start and spread is already chosen-Iran region will be beginning over Iran and Israel then spread throughout the world,
o   When planned war in 2 years comes, gas at the pump will go to $7, $8 and/or $10 dollars a gallon almost overnight
•   The elite have altered their timeline because we gave them 2.5 trillion dollars the last 2 months of the Bush administration.  They created an artificial crisis  and a created solution (Hegelian Dialectic) just before the end of the Bush administration to get Congress to give them the funds (they used economic terrorism where they created the problem and the solution)
•   Within 2 years nearly everyone will be working for the government (auto, banks, healthcare, etc. all under government control). Obama is now “CEO” of General Motors, Chrysler, (and will be head of all the banks and health care system as well).  Obama said every company that has been bailed out by the U.S. Gov is going to be required to cut top salaries by 90% (Alex interjected that these are really mid level managers, the billionaire shareholders won’t be touched-this is simply setting the precedent for wage control for all of us).  The banks will be whittled down to 9 major banks, all bailed out and under full government control.
•   The ex-CEO kept using the term “the Devil’s Messiah” referring to the system used to get control of churches in America
•   They are working through the pastors and churches of America along with Homeland Security
•   Buzzwords (phrases), exact statements used by the ex-CEO elitist
o   War brought the country out of the depression,
o   Turmoil in the middle east 2 years from now,
o   Iran’s external enemy Israel,
o   Crude oil will stay $70 to $50 (a barrel) until the next crisis in the Middle East  (which they already have planned out),
o   Within 2 years nearly everyone will be working for the government
•   Exec went into how the elite (Satan’s elite) have enlisted the churches and pastors in America in general, used the expression “Devil’s Messiah” and how they have gotten the churches and pastors to fall in line since 1965.
•   Jones references Charlotte Iserbyt’s father who was Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, etc, and how he accepted Jesus and then confessed to her with tears that the world government was run by Satanists and how he wished he had the health to go to other members he was involved with to try and persuade them that this path was not the way to go (Satan’s NWO path).  Charlotte Iserbyt was the whistle blower who wrote the expose on the NWO's plan to use the education system to dumb down America, she wrote the book “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” available online free.
•   Mentioned how Homeland Security has requested that pastors hand out forms to their congregation to get personal information from their congregations about the people’s salary, number of  people in the house, the number of computers in their homes, etc, and to make this information available to them (Homeland Security) upon request.  Lindsey saw recently a brochure being passed out at a church that asked these questions of the congregation.  Clergy response team secret documents-revealed first by Pastor Butch Pauff -tell flock to turn in guns, go to camps, Romans 13, telling the congregation “it’s of the Lord to go to the camps”, to follow whomever the president is.  Dripping Springs big Baptist Church passed out memo instructing people not to speak about political topics at the church even if you are having dinner with them.
•   The elite plan on narrowing all banks down to just 9 which they control fully
•   Regarding God, the elite contact said the elite had to take away America’s God,
o   got rid of the McGuffy Reader, which was the first textbook of the American schools to teach people to read the Bible,
o   Said they had to remove the God of America before they could ever conquer the republic.
o   Original Webster Dictionary written for the purpose for maintaining the language of the Scriptures
o   The “Devil’s Messiah” he was referring to was the system used to get rid of all things righteous
o   Caused human beings to believe they were nothing but evolution developed animals so they would act like animals
o   1964 and 1965 saw the beginning subversions of America’s churches via 501C3   organizational status, required it as of 1967, some refused, including Lindsey where he was a pastor in Hollywood Florida
o   “Separation of Church and State” is not in the Constitution-it was made up by the elite to get God out of areas.
o   Mentioned quote of (10-20-09) patriot Major General Smedley Butler whom Eisenhower called a man among men: “War is a racket, it always has been, it is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious, it is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars while the losses in lives. Only a small inside group knows what it is about.  It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.”  This quote is what Lindsey thought of upon hearing from his contact regarding war being planned after 2 years (from October 2009) to break out in the Middle East, likely Iran first.
o    Major General Smedley Butler was a two time Congressional Medal of Honor winner who took over various nations throughout the world for the globalists who was approached by the globalists.  In the mid 1930’s Butler was asked by the elite to lead a coupe of the United States and link up with Hitler with Butler leading an army of 500,000 soldiers to take over the United States. General Butler tried to warn America of the plan of the elite to make America a Nazi style nation in the McCormack-Dickstein Committee where he blew the whistle.
o   The mass media and talk show hosts (like Alex Jones etc) will be the last touched-because they need their own propaganda media, if they shut Alex and other talk show hosts down, they would highlight what Alex and others have been saying, they just ignore it, until the next war crisis-planned, then they will take down the opposition talks shows-it will be the end, in 2 years or less they plan on the full takeover to be complete by the time they start the planned war in Iran and other areas of the globe.

•   Lindsey said the only thing that will turn this around will be divine intervention
•   The elite do have a code of ethics, not the same as ours, they are not atheists, but they do not serve our God/Christ.  They must let you know what they are going to do before they do it.  Just 2 weeks before Katrina hit New Orleans, they came out, with the movie Oil Storm and everything that happened in New Orleans was in the movie, Hollywood is their mouthpiece and perversion.  Watch war movies coming out from Hollywood over the next two years to see what they are preparing.
•   There will be a big increase in the stock market, it is a trap (falsely inflated) to set the next collapse.
•   Gold and silver will escalate rapidly due to dollar collapse and devaluation, Gold and silver are all you can rely on as far as money. This (gold) is what the elite rely on.
•   This elite ex-CEO of one of the top oil companies said that they will foreshadow everything they will do through the Hollywood movies coming out (over the next two years).
•   They admit to 9 Trillion dollars in debt (over 24 Trillion now but not officially admitted by the Government), the debt is not important, the important part is the interest on the national debt and that someone must buy the interest on the national debt (it is bought by the treasury of the United States, which issues T-Bills and Securities/Treasury Bonds) When nations no longer use American dollars for crude oil, they will no longer buy treasury reserve (T-Bills and securities). The Fed’s policy of Monetizing the Debt will collapse the dollar as soon as the nations back out of T-Bills.  This is what the Argentina, Zimbabwe, and what the Weimar Republic in Germany did in the 1930s.
•   CRUDE OIL-The elite will not allow any of the massive oil reserves in Alaska to come to the United States refineries.  They may open the reserves North of Russia if crude oil continues to go up to bring the price back down (currently around $80 a barrel in Oct of 2009).
•   Everything that happened to Iceland will come to the United States
•   TWO 2 last big things they are going to do just before the final push is GUN CONTROL and then shutting down the talk show hosts such as Alex Jones- the media (Jones said that Hitler did this last too because this is the “canary in the coal mine” that alerts people to the tyranny, so they leave it alone until the end).
•   Alex Jones mentioned that the elite will get close to 100 million out of jobs and point these newly poor people against the middle class as a weapon against the middle class being portrayed as “the rich” while the ultra rich elite loot everybody and run pay cuts on the middle class, upper middle class, and novae riche, the elite will sic the poor and disenfranchised against anyone with money except the ultra rich.  Alex mentioned that the elite want a Soviet purge in America, with a tiny elite and the rest of us slaves, with bureaucrats moving into our homes (Alex mentioned stories every couple of days he’s read with cops (eventually environmental cops too) moving into peoples’ homes they have stolen.)  He also mentioned to SWAT teams and police that the elite have a bad job for them, and when they are all wiped out, the elite will march out the I4 foreign troops as outlined in FEMA documents NLE09 
•   Alex Jones mentions how Department of Homeland Security documents in the MIAC report which stated that all veterans, conservatives, gun owners, libertarians, (and they also listed Ron Paul supporters) were their number one enemies.
•   On the Friday Oct 23rd show with Bob Chapman (economist of the International Forecaster), Chapman outlines how in phase 2 gold will likely go up in price to between $2500 to $3000 per ounce, and in phase 3 it should go up to between $6700 to $7100 per ounce (Bob Chapman said economist John Williams is a wonderful economist and that Williams is predicting $7100 per ounce gold prices).  Chapman said official inflation is at $6700 per ounce based on 1980’s $850 per ounce high.

***More Tools available***
Lindsey Williams has recently put out (Oct, 2009) a six (6) DVD set outlining in more detail much of the information presented in brief format above.  The DVD set can be ordered by calling 1-888-799-6111 and buyers are urged with permission by Lindsey to copy the DVDs and distribute to as many people as possible. 

*** Be sure to watch the new film “Fall of the Republic” by Alex Jones available free online (video.google.com) or you can buy and copy the DVD ($19.95) at www.infowars.com (see shop) or download or stream with a prisonplanet.tv membership with many other movies available to stream or download (membership is $5.95 per month).

For top level intelligence and analysis of world events and future trends, Gerald Celente’s Trends Research Journal is invaluable.  His report is totally subscription supported (no advertising).  This is one of the best resources for spot on preparation analysis.  www.trendsresearch.com  (discount may be available if you and/or your family are in financially difficult times, normal subscription rate is $99 per year, about half of that if your situation qualifies, for example, out of work, loss of income, etc.  Discount price is around $50 per year upon review.  Here is a link to a great short video of Gerald in action with 2009 outlook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-z1i2ihec

Other recommended titles to watch (stream online free or buy DVDs) are
The Obama Deception
America Freedom to Fascism
Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement
Terrorstorm: A History of Government Sponsored Terror
The New Atlantis (Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings Volume 1)
Riddles in Stone: The Secret Architecture of Washington D.C. (Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings Volume 2)
Eye of the Phoenix: Secrets of the Dollar Bill (Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings Volume 3)

Ephesians 5:10-14: 
 10 Carefully determine what pleases the Lord. 11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose them. 12 It is shameful even to talk about the things that ungodly people do in secret. 13 But their evil intentions will be exposed when the light shines on them, 14 for the light makes everything visible.

Tyndale House Publishers. (2004). Holy Bible : New Living Translation. "Text edition"--Spine. (2nd ed.) (Eph 5:10-14). Wheaton, Ill.: Tyndale House Publishers.

Romans 10:9-13:
9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved. 11 As the Scriptures tell us, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.”  12 Jew and Gentile are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him. 13 For “Everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved.”   
 
Tyndale House Publishers. (2004). Holy Bible : New Living Translation. "Text edition"--Spine. (2nd ed.) (Ro 10:9-13). Wheaton, Ill.: Tyndale House Publishers.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009, 10:16:30 PM »

Thank you, Sir! Excellent summary!

If anything, THIS is probably the worse case scenerio of all(i.e. the fan hitting the ceiling in weeks, and only lasting for a few months until the end times tribulation come by being another bad scenerio), largely b/c alot of people could potentially be going through LONG stretches without jobs, essentials, with barely a few crumbs on the table to eat.

IOW - get at least 1-2 years of essentials ready now, b/c when the time hits and we're stuck in gears until America is no longer visible in 2011...OTOH-if the crisis were a mere few months, then it won't be nearly as bad in terms of stocking up on all the essentials.

Edit: As for them keep on updating that Webster's dictionary - I have to agree with Lindsey in terms of words with biblical meanings et al. For example, a couple of months ago, I warned my mom of this uprising of this religious ecumenical movement with the Emergent Church involved. And she responded, "Do you even know what ecumenical means?". She got out her MODERN dictionary, and guess what its meaning was? Dum, dum, dum, dum...*Christian unity* - yet more end times deceptions we're living in. Since then, I used the word "interfaith" to her.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 06:37:46 AM »

Pastor Williams is the worst guest AJ has on.  The last time, comments were banned on the AJ Youtube channel.  He's just trying to sell his videos.  It's fine.  Everyone I know turns AJ off when he's on, and I do too. 

Well this person has waited over 2 days and nothing.  He then tried to reactivate and nothing.  This person tried to use a certain name that's on Youtube, and that's why, I believe, he was not allowed to register.  How long should this person wait?

I registered and it took less than 8 hours. 

I think you're wrong on this one.

I'd like to hear from a mod about this.

With your comments here, I think you will be hearing from a mod real soon!   Wink
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2012, 06:40:23 AM »

Thx for the bullet points in Williams interviews. Here is a source of those interviews from 2009 through 2012, and related info:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=10171&st=0

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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 09:34:20 AM »

Pastor Williams is the worst guest AJ has on.  The last time, comments were banned on the AJ Youtube channel.  He's just trying to sell his videos.  It's fine.  Everyone I know turns AJ off when he's on, and I do too. 

Well, he DID say McCain was the "elite"'s guy 4 years ago. Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 09:42:47 AM »

Well, he DID say McCain was the "elite"'s guy 4 years ago. Undecided

Nobody is saying Lindsey is perfect. No human being is when they are trying to decipher lies of the elite.

Also, the elite would have been ok with either puppet for President when goon McCain was on the ticket, because they run and fund them both. Who gets the nod for President is, IMO, based on where they are at the time in their NWO agenda and which of the 2 goons would serve their purpose at that moment in time and get the blind support of the public.

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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 10:25:58 AM »

Nobody is saying Lindsey is perfect. No human being is when they are trying to decipher lies of the elite.

Also, the elite would have been ok with either puppet for President when goon McCain was on the ticket, because they run and fund them both. Who gets the nod for President is, IMO, based on where they are at the time in their NWO agenda and which of the 2 goons would serve their purpose at that moment in time and get the blind support of the public.

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I know - that was kind of my point I was trying to make to the above poster - sometimes his sources can either give him bad info, or the wrong info that they themselves may not know it's wrong. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if the NWO minions are divided over what puppet they want. Lindsey's sources in the oil industry seem to favor the Republican puppets, while the Soros people seem to favor the Democrat puppets.
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