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« on: October 16, 2009, 12:42:25 PM »

Alex needs to be made aware that this is the same substance that is in pureworks hand sanitizers which is an advertiser on his show

check out their website and their freq. asked questions number 3


this chemical is not  safe
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 12:47:17 PM »

Benzethonium Chloride in Vaccines: A Toxic Anti-microbial and Preservative
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/901833/benzethonium_chloride_in_vaccines_a.html?cat=70

Fortunately, Benzethonium Chloride is not used in most mainstream vaccines. Benzethonium Chloride is an anti-microbial agent used as a disinfectant, antiseptic, antibacterial, detergent and preservative. It is used in the food and cosmetic industries as well as in vaccine use. It has
 recently been found to be one of the most effective chemical compounds against MRSA, a Staph bacteria that has become more of a threat than just hospital environments.

MSDS for Benzethonium Chloride under section 11, Toxicological Information reveals this to be a toxic chemical by ingestion or inhalation, (this data does not cover it's dangers or hazards of injection). It has acute oral toxicity and damages the mucus membranes. It is hazardous to humans for skin contact, inhalation, and ingestion. Also based on animal testing it may be a mutagenic, (cause mutations in genetic information), as well as carcinogenic. Ingestion may cause adverse reactions in the following area's, CNS depression, convulsions, seizures, coma, respiratory depression, blood, urinary system and metabolism. I really hate the thought of some of these ingredients being injected into the body, if it isn't safe to breath, eat, or touch, how can it possibly be beneficial to inject?

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PureWorks’ Antibacterial Foam and Spray represent a break through technology for fighting infection.

    * Kills 99.9% of bacteria and other harmful germs that can cause illness and infection.
    * Persistent - Continues to protect your skin for hours after application.
    * FDA compliant as both a First-aid Antiseptic and hand sanitizer.
    * Strong antibacterial health claims allowed, as described in 21CFR333.
    * No-rinse application for foams and sprays.
    * Alcohol free.

Product Details

These non-toxic, alcohol-free products exhibit exceptional antibacterial activity. They are gentle to the skin and do not sting or irritate when used to clean and treat minor cuts and scrapes. In fact, both of these products comply with or exceed all requirements set forth by the US Food and Drug Administration for antibacterial first aid antiseptics. PureWorks’ Antibacterial Foam and Spray help protect against bacterial contamination and help guard against the risk of infection.

The active ingredient in both the foam and the lotion is benzethonium chloride, recognized world-wide as a safe and effective antimicrobial compound. This “fourth-generation” quaternary ammonium compound is gentle to the skin while being tough on bacteria. Unlike many of the alcohol-based hand sanitizers on the market today, PureWorks’ Antibacterial Foam and Antibacterial Spray are alcohol free. Rather than drying or irritating the skin, PureWorks’ products soften and condition the skin while providing hours of lasting protection against bacteria and harmful germs that cause illness.

Use of either the PureWorks’ Antibacterial Foam or Antibacterial Spray is not intended to replace hand washing. Frequent hand washing helps remove dirt and oils that accumulate on the skin. The Foam and Spray are intended to be used following hand washing, to help guard against the risk of infection and to ameliorate the negative skin effects of frequent washing. Repeated use of these products between washing leaves treated skin feeling soft and smooth. Unique emollients have also been incorporated into the formulation to enhance the skin’s vitality and good health. In fact, most consumers find that the skin-conditioning attributes of these products are the primary reason they apply them repeatedly between washings.

Whether used for their cosmetic or medical attributes, both the PureWorks’ Antibacterial Foam and Antibacterial Spray help guard against the risk of infection while conditioning and moisturizing the skin.

http://protectedbypureworks.com/spray.htm
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 12:49:32 PM »

I really hate the thought of some of these ingredients being injected into the body, if it isn't safe to breath, eat, or touch, how can it possibly be beneficial to inject?


It's beneficial only to the interests of the elitists and their eugenics program. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 08:29:32 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzalkonium_chloride

A caller to the show yesterday may have been either Cointelpro or just a bit off the mark in his three points

He started off with the report that a new "hand sanitizer" containing the dangerous sounding chemical Benzalkonium Chloride was being forced upon schoolchildren in his state then went on to allege that the government will be seizing gold and that his schools were somehow slipping kids Fluoride pills.

I know not about the veracity of the last two reports the last one which seems to be a crime beyond reason, but as to the Benzalkonium Chloride it is really quite a reasonably harmless even if somewhat controversial product.

Long used in eye washes for contact lens solutions  and introduced in the 60's as an alternative sterile pad for acne skin cleaning medication this substance is a good disinfectant with only mild side effects chosen primarily because it unlike alcohol based ones does not cause skin burning or other painful side effects in open wounds or sores.


While in combinations with other substances and ridiculously high concentrations it is certainly not as healthy as one might wish, nor good to drink, it is not bad as a safe "inherently poisonous antibacterial and antiviral leave-on cleaning solution for external use" and, as such a substance, is fairly harmless as shown from its use in contact lens eye solutions - the most sensitive of all needs.

PS: don't ever get any of these normal alcohol type "hand sanitizer" gels near your eyes!
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2009, 02:04:39 AM »

I HAD to blog about this - how DARE they put this insanely toxic stuff in a product which, after using, kids might put their fingers in their mouths?

Benzalkonium chloride hand sanitiser
http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009/10/benzalkonium-chloride-hand-sanitiser.html

Toxicology:
Corrosive, toxic - causes burns.
Harmful by inhalation, ingestion and through skin contact.
May cause reproductive defects.
May act as a mutagen.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2009, 03:02:23 AM »

What's wrong with soap and warm water? I'm sure the amount of disinfectant in the product is < 1%, but still..... it's unnecessary to begin with.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 06:31:31 PM »

Alex needs to be made aware that this is the same substance that is in pureworks hand sanitizers which is an advertiser on his show

check out their website and their freq. asked questions number 3


this chemical is not  safe

Nor are any of them. The sythetics are dangerous for the simple faxt that they take more time to break down in nature. When that happens, cancers and such occur.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 06:46:27 PM »

Whatever happened to borax?
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2009, 07:04:51 PM »

E Plabmeesta...?

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let him take it, and likewise his scrip; and he that hath no sword,
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2009, 01:35:22 AM »

E Plabmeesta...?

--Oldyoti

Luke 22:36: Then said he unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse,
let him take it, and likewise his scrip; and he that hath no sword,
let him sell his garment, and buy one".

--Jesus to his disciples


JT.... I will need some education here. I did a search for this, but only came up with Star Trek...hahaha, am I missing something?
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2009, 01:50:03 AM »

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MSDS for Benzethonium Chloride under section 11, Toxicological Information reveals this to be a toxic chemical by ingestion or inhalation, (this data does not cover it's dangers or hazards of injection). It has acute oral toxicity and damages the mucus membranes. It is hazardous to humans for skin contact, inhalation, and ingestion.
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The stuff I highlighted in blue also stroke me as directly related to their desired effect: propagation of the virus.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2009, 02:11:44 AM »

Alex needs to be made aware that this is the same substance that is in pureworks hand sanitizers which is an advertiser on his show

check out their website and their freq. asked questions number 3

this chemical is not  safe

Thanks for the "wake up call". The good thing is we do have alternatives. As I mentioned earlier Borax. Now you do not want to inhale this stuff and more than you would want to inhale any foreign object nor leave it on your skin too long. We also have Glycerin. We also have many others. Here in China we have a plant called "soap plant. hahaha, need I say more? Yes, I do. Now most glycerin is a by product of other manufacturing. It occurs naturally, but you will need to decifer if yours is a pure natural or not.

Pure soap is manufactured from lye and lard. This is also not something too leave on your skin too long. And be careful in the making of it. Also, add some glycerin. It will mild it down.

Addition: Soap is also fun to make. It can be a bit messy so make a big batch...
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 02:37:07 AM »

Dudes you cannot kill germs and bacteria with bad language!  This is one of the main active ingredients in Lysol. As for "soap" it contains Lye (sodium hydroxide, caustic soda) which is horrifically corrosive, hostile and dangerous in ridiculous quantities and concentrations as well!

To poison bacteria and germs one needs something that is "just toxic enough" to get the job done, without having serious adverse side effects - the secret to the safety is in the low dosage/concentration that makes it safe to use and be occasionally in prolonged and direct contact with while/yet still being reasonably effective "for external uses".

Chemistry is not our ancestor, it's our enemy! Much like guns - any weapon, when used carefully and treated with due care and respect, we can all stay at friendly peace with them.


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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2009, 02:44:07 AM »

Dudes you cannot kill germs and bacteria with bad language!  This is one of the main active ingredients in Lysol. As for "soap" it contains Lye (sodium hydroxide, caustic soda) which is horrifically corrosive, hostile and dangerous in ridiculous quantities and concentrations as well!

To poison bacteria and germs one needs something that is "just toxic enough" to get the job done, without having serious adverse side effects - the secret to the safety is in the low dosage/concentration that makes it safe to use and be occasionally in prolonged and direct contact with while/yet still being reasonably effective "for external uses".

Chemistry is not our ancestor, it's our enemy! When used carefully and treated with due respect we can all stay at friendly peace with it.

Thanks. I think that was my point, but you did delve into a bit further. I was hoping that everyone would read into my words and understand that even natural chemicals can be harmful.  I prefer the naturals myself as the sythetics are an unkown.



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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2009, 11:29:48 AM »

JT.... I will need some education here. I did a search for this, but only came up with Star Trek...hahaha, am I missing something?

I'm just giving cloudwilliam some sh*t.... Grin

On a more serious note... problem with antibacterials in soaps and other things that are used as antiseptic on the skin, is that they kill the sentinel cells of the immune system... the T cells, the dendritic epidermal T cells which are the sentinels of the skin, they are just under the surface of our skin and alert the rest of the immune system when a threat has been posed to the body... these guys are killed by antibacterials...

Antibacterial means exactly that... it doesn't care if it's one of the 5% of bacteria that are harmful, or if it is any of the 95% that are inert or beneficial... antibiotic/antibacterial means anti-living...

What most people don't realize is that viruses are not really alive, thus are immune to antibiotics/antibacterials... they require even more toxic measures to eliminate. Viruses are little mutation machines that require insertion into a living cell where they can overtake the DNA in order to become "alive" and transfer their DNA alteration and then mutate. To refer to a virus as "alive" is incorrect, to refer to it as "active" is correct... when you take the flu shot, you are receiving an active ready to go, ready to mutate virus... this is not good.

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