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« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2009, 09:38:08 PM »

Monckton's full speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0
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« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2009, 09:46:41 PM »

49?

You mean 50 right?

Anyway, F YEAH! That seems to be what JT has been talking about here for at least two years now.

But your concise evaluation (except for the whole zog thingy, but you are human) is awesome!

At least he didn't say 57.

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« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2009, 09:03:25 PM »

49?

You mean 50 right?

Anyway, F YEAH! That seems to be what JT has been talking about here for at least two years now.

But your concise evaluation (except for the whole zog thingy, but you are human) is awesome!

My bad. I was subtracting the District of Columbia from 50.. without really considering that Maryland could still succeed via the 10th.


The only hang up to all 50 states dropping D.C. and clearing itself of the soverngity issue is that all Federal Lands (Parks, Wildlife Reserves, etc.) would have to be reclaimed before succession takes place.  Otherwise a very large part of the U.S. would still be turned over.

For example...all these "World Heritage Sites"


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United States

    * Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site - Illinois
    * Carlsbad Caverns National Park - New Mexico
    * Chaco Culture - New Mexico
    * Everglades National Park - Florida
    * Grand Canyon National Park - Arizona
    * Great Smoky Mountains National Park - Tennessee and North Carolina
    * Hawaii Volcanoes National Park - Hawaii
    * Independence Hall - Pennsylvania
    * Kluane/Wrangell-St. Elias/Glacier Bay/Tatshenshini-Alsek - Alaska (shared with Canada)
    * La Fortaleza and San Juan National Historic Site - Puerto Rico
    * Mammoth Cave - Kentucky
    * Mesa Verde National Park - Colorado
    * Monticello and the University of Virginia in Charlottesville - Virginia
    * Olympic National Park - Washington
    * Redwood National and State Parks - California
    * Pueblo de Taos - New Mexico
    * Statue of Liberty - New York
    * Waterton-Glacier International Peace Park (union of Waterton Lakes (Canada) and Glacier (U.S.) parks) - Montana (shared with Canada)
    * Yellowstone National Park - Wyoming, extending into Montana and Idaho
    * Yosemite National Park - California
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_the_Americas#United_States
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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2009, 01:23:36 AM »

My bad. I was subtracting the District of Columbia from 50.. without really considering that Maryland could still succeed via the 10th.


The only hang up to all 50 states dropping D.C. and clearing itself of the soverngity issue is that all Federal Lands (Parks, Wildlife Reserves, etc.) would have to be reclaimed before succession takes place.  Otherwise a very large part of the U.S. would still be turned over.

For example...all these "World Heritage Sites"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_the_Americas#United_States

Are there "World Heritage Sites"  in other countries?
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« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2009, 06:38:13 AM »

My bad. I was subtracting the District of Columbia from 50.. without really considering that Maryland could still succeed via the 10th.


The only hang up to all 50 states dropping D.C. and clearing itself of the soverngity issue is that all Federal Lands (Parks, Wildlife Reserves, etc.) would have to be reclaimed before succession takes place.  Otherwise a very large part of the U.S. would still be turned over.

For example...all these "World Heritage Sites"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_the_Americas#United_States

whoah!

well if the people did not agree on conceding these sites to the corporation, the US Inc. or if US Inc. in any way breached any possible contract (say by starting illegal wars, genociding its own people, engaging in false flag terrorism, and over 1,000,000 cases of fraud then couldn't any and all possible land agreements be rendered null and void?
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« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2009, 07:37:47 AM »

Thatcher adviser: Copenhagen goal is 1-world government
'Global warming' to be used as 'pretext' for 'change'

A former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher says the real purpose of the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen on Dec. 7-18 is to use global warming hype as a pretext to lay the foundation for a one-world government.

"At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed," Monkton told a Minnesota Free Market Institute audience on Thursday at Bethel University in St. Paul.

"Your president will sign it. Most of the Third World countries will sign it, because they think they're going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regimes from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won't sign it," he told the audience of some 700 attendees.

"I read that treaty and what it says is this: that a world government is going to be created. The word 'government' actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity.

"The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to Third World countries, in satisfaction of what is called, coyly, 'climate debt' – because we've been burning CO2 and they haven't. We've been screwing up the climate and they haven't. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government is enforcement."

In an hour and a half lecture illustrated by slides featuring scientific data on a wide range of climate issues, Monkton refuted claims made by former Vice President Al Gore in his movie and book entitled "An Inconvenient Truth," as well as scientific arguments made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Monckton argued that President Obama will sign the Copenhagen treaty at the December meeting, without seeking a two-thirds ratification of the treaty by the Senate, or any other type of Congressional approval.

"So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free," he continued. "But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever.

"But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty. For there is no problem with the climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it."

Moncton is a well-known critic of the theory of anthropogenic causes for global warming who has argued repeatedly that global warming hysteria is an ideological position of the political Left advanced in the interest of imposing global taxes on the United States in the pursuit of international control of the U.S. economy under a one-world government to be administered by the U.N.

Monkton's lecture can be viewed online and his slides also can be accessed on the Internet.

Where’s the global warming?

As evidence mounts that the United States is headed toward a cooling cycle that may last decades, global alarmists within the Obama administration remain resolved to push cap-and-trade legislation through Congress on the increasingly dubious theory that man-made carbon emissions are creating global warming.

In what has to be seen as increasingly bad news for global warming alarmists, scientific evidence is mounting that temperatures in the United States have cooled at a rate that would be projected to lower temperatures 7.3 degrees Fahrenheit over the next century.



Maybe Obama’s Science Czar is Right: Is a New Ice Age on the Horizon?

WND has reported White House science czar John Holdren's prediction that one billion people will die in "carbon-dioxide induced famines" in a coming new ice age by 2020.

Even though Holdren's current position is that the U.S. needs to enact cap-and-trade to slow global warming, Holdren predicted in a 1971 textbook co-authored with Paul Ehrlich that global over-population was heading the Earth to a new ice age unless the government mandated urgent measures to control population, including the possibility of involuntary birth control measures such as forced sterilization.

Holdren's prediction that one billion people would die from a global cooling "eco-disaster" was announced by Malthusian population alarmist Ehrlich in his 1986 book entitled, "The Machinery of Nature."

Holdren based his prediction on a bizarre theory that human emissions of carbon dioxide would produce a climate catastrophe in which global warming would cause global cooling with a resultant reduction in agricultural production resulting in widespread disaster.

On pages 273-274 of "The Machinery of Nature," Ehrlich explained Holdren's theory by arguing "some localities will probably become colder as the warmer atmosphere drives the climactic engine faster, causing streams of frigid air to move more rapidly away from the poles." (Emphasis in original text.)

The movement of the frigid air from the poles caused by global warming "could reduce agricultural yields for decades or more – a sure recipe for disaster in an increasingly overpopulated world," Ehrlich wrote.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113219
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« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2009, 10:13:52 AM »


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« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2009, 10:47:57 AM »

Who is Monkton and why does he have the inside story? 

JtCoyote is right in what he says--so why is Monkton saying this publically?
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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2009, 12:18:01 PM »

Thatcher adviser: Copenhagen goal is 1-world government
'Global warming' to be used as 'pretext' for 'change'

A former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher says the real purpose of the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen on Dec. 7-18 is to use global warming hype as a pretext to lay the foundation for a one-world government.

"At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed," Monkton told a Minnesota Free Market Institute audience on Thursday at Bethel University in St. Paul.

"Your president will sign it. Most of the Third World countries will sign it, because they think they're going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regimes from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won't sign it," he told the audience of some 700 attendees.

"I read that treaty and what it says is this: that a world government is going to be created. The word 'government' actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity.

"The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to Third World countries, in satisfaction of what is called, coyly, 'climate debt' – because we've been burning CO2 and they haven't. We've been screwing up the climate and they haven't. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government is enforcement."

In an hour and a half lecture illustrated by slides featuring scientific data on a wide range of climate issues, Monkton refuted claims made by former Vice President Al Gore in his movie and book entitled "An Inconvenient Truth," as well as scientific arguments made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Monckton argued that President Obama will sign the Copenhagen treaty at the December meeting, without seeking a two-thirds ratification of the treaty by the Senate, or any other type of Congressional approval.

"So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free," he continued. "But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever.

"But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty. For there is no problem with the climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it."

Moncton is a well-known critic of the theory of anthropogenic causes for global warming who has argued repeatedly that global warming hysteria is an ideological position of the political Left advanced in the interest of imposing global taxes on the United States in the pursuit of international control of the U.S. economy under a one-world government to be administered by the U.N.

Monkton's lecture can be viewed online and his slides also can be accessed on the Internet.

Where’s the global warming?

As evidence mounts that the United States is headed toward a cooling cycle that may last decades, global alarmists within the Obama administration remain resolved to push cap-and-trade legislation through Congress on the increasingly dubious theory that man-made carbon emissions are creating global warming.

In what has to be seen as increasingly bad news for global warming alarmists, scientific evidence is mounting that temperatures in the United States have cooled at a rate that would be projected to lower temperatures 7.3 degrees Fahrenheit over the next century.



Maybe Obama’s Science Czar is Right: Is a New Ice Age on the Horizon?

WND has reported White House science czar John Holdren's prediction that one billion people will die in "carbon-dioxide induced famines" in a coming new ice age by 2020.

Even though Holdren's current position is that the U.S. needs to enact cap-and-trade to slow global warming, Holdren predicted in a 1971 textbook co-authored with Paul Ehrlich that global over-population was heading the Earth to a new ice age unless the government mandated urgent measures to control population, including the possibility of involuntary birth control measures such as forced sterilization.

Holdren's prediction that one billion people would die from a global cooling "eco-disaster" was announced by Malthusian population alarmist Ehrlich in his 1986 book entitled, "The Machinery of Nature."

Holdren based his prediction on a bizarre theory that human emissions of carbon dioxide would produce a climate catastrophe in which global warming would cause global cooling with a resultant reduction in agricultural production resulting in widespread disaster.

On pages 273-274 of "The Machinery of Nature," Ehrlich explained Holdren's theory by arguing "some localities will probably become colder as the warmer atmosphere drives the climactic engine faster, causing streams of frigid air to move more rapidly away from the poles." (Emphasis in original text.)

The movement of the frigid air from the poles caused by global warming "could reduce agricultural yields for decades or more – a sure recipe for disaster in an increasingly overpopulated world," Ehrlich wrote.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113219

This particular article and graph, as well as a vast majority of John Holdren's above mentioned book, as well as both he and Paul Ehrlich's preoccupation with depopulation... as well as their condemnation of carbon dioxide, DEFINITELY sends up some red flags.

The graphic in the quote above shows the temperature fluctuation measured in degrees Fahrenheit since the year 1998, with no source reference as to where, nor by what method it was measured... which is tantamount to showing you measurements of the very tip of an elephants trunk, without telling you if it was being measured using a micrometer close up or with a yardstick far away... in either case, what does the rest of elephant the looked like?

The following illustrates the ocean temperature over the last 3000 years as well as the methods used to ascertain these numbers prior to direct measurement which has corroborated the method over the last 40 years... Here is the real science.

The climate has always cycled over time. We are now in a cyclic warming trend and the data shows its long cycle predictability. With interdisciplinary communication, science has opened much of the climate change complexity to the light of reason and out of the realm of fear.  Fear is what the UN-IPCC, the politicians, and their minions have chosen to foist on us, a snake god operation in the name of anthropogenic climate change. The IPCC has been unmasked as the political organization it is, with it's money making, world carbon tax, agenda/scam.

The proponants of human caused climate change rattle on about polar bears being destroyed by humanities evil CO2, which is BS. They also go on about island nations like Tuvalu being flooded by "humanity's evil." The data shows that the sea level world wide was about 12 inches higher during the Medieval Climate Optimum from about 750AD to 1200AD. During that time the average ocean temperature reached 24.2 degrees C. Then the Earth plummeted into the Little Ice Age which at it's coldest dropped the ocean temperatures to 21.8 degrees C in about 1750AD. This is when the Thames, the Delaware, and Hudson rivers used to freeze solid every winter. We are now at 22.8 degrees C, (73 degrees Fahrenheit) which is just below the 3,000 year average of just a tad under 23 degrees C. We are still coming out of the Little Ice age today! 1000 years ago the Island of Tuvalu was almost under water, and will be again, but not because of human causes!



"Figure 1: Surface temperatures in the Sargasso Sea, a 2 million square mile region of the Atlantic Ocean, with time resolution of 50 to 100 years and ending in 1975, as determined by isotope ratios of marine organism remains in sediment at the bottom of the sea (3). The horizontal line is the average temperature for this 3,000-year period. The Little Ice Age and Medieval Climate Optimum were naturally occurring, extended intervals of climate departures from the mean. A value of 0.25 °C, which is the change in Sargasso Sea temperature between 1975 and 2006, has been added to the 1975 data in order to provide a 2006 temperature value.

The average temperature of the Earth has varied within a range of about 3°C during the past 3,000 years. It is currently increasing as the Earth recovers from a period that is known as the Little Ice Age, as shown in Figure 1. George Washington and his army were at Valley Forge during the coldest era in 1,500 years, but even then the temperature was only about 1° Centigrade below the 3,000-year average.



    Figure 2: Average length of 169 glaciers from 1700 to 2000 (4). The principal source of melt energy is solar radiation. Variations in glacier mass and length are primarily due to temperature and precipitation (5,6). This melting trend lags the temperature increase by about 20 years, so it predates the 6-fold increase in hydrocarbon use (7) even more than shown in the figure. Hydrocarbon use could not have caused this shortening trend.

The most recent part of this warming period is reflected by shortening of world glaciers, as shown in Figure 2. Glaciers regularly lengthen and shorten in delayed correlation with cooling and warming trends. Shortening lags temperature by about 20 years, so the current warming trend began in about 1800.



    Figure 3: Arctic surface air temperature compared with total solar irradiance as measured by sunspot cycle amplitude, sunspot cycle length, solar equatorial rotation rate, fraction of penumbral spots, and decay rate of the 11-year sunspot cycle (8,9). Solar irradiance correlates well with Arctic temperature, while hydrocarbon use (7) does not correlate.

Atmospheric temperature is regulated by the sun, which fluctuates in activity as shown in Figure 3; by the greenhouse effect, largely caused by atmospheric water vapor (H2O); and by other phenomena that are more poorly understood. While major greenhouse gas H2O substantially warms the Earth, minor greenhouse gases such as CO2 have little effect, as shown in Figures 2 and 3. The 6-fold increase in hydrocarbon use since 1940 has had no noticeable effect on atmospheric temperature or on the trend in glacier length.

While Figure 1 is illustrative of most geographical locations, there is great variability of temperature records with location and regional climate. Comprehensive surveys of published temperature records confirm the principal features of Figure 1, including the fact that the current Earth temperature is approximately 1 °C lower than that during the Medieval Climate Optimum 1,000 years ago (11,12)."

 http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/Review_Article_HTML.php


We have real environmental problems that this "thing", this human caused climate change "thing" is obfuscating, leading us away from things that need to be addressed. The environmental movement has been hijacked/kidnapped by the UN-IPCC and it's Pied Piper, Algore. The fact that virtually all of our leaders, on all sides have come out in support of this LIE, betrays them and their allegiance to the NWO, the ruling elite, and their disregard for the climate and disdain for the Constitution.  

They spew the words placed in their mouths by their global carbon taxation masters. There isn't a dimes worth of difference between John Holdren, Barack O'Puppet, or AlGore and Paul Ehrlich they are all Globalist eugenisits that regurgitate the same global feudalistic talking points. Thus any discussion of their opinions has no validity in a discussion of facts and actualities, which like truth holds sway over OPINION even the OPINION of power busying itself selling climate change snake oil in a package of fear.

Here is the summery of the 12 page letter that is circulated with the Global Warming Petition Project petition.

http://www.petitionproject.org/review_article.php

For those who wish to peruse the actual letter, here is a link

http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/Review_Article_HTML.php

To listen to anything that these globalist eugenicists say is like listening to the songs of the sirens and not having yourself strapped to the mast of your ship... because men like Paul Ehrlich, and John Holdren, seek only to lure mankind to their death.

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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2009, 01:21:15 PM »

Are there "World Heritage Sites"  in other countries?

World Heritage Sites

There are 14 sites/vast areas in Japan according to wikipedia
    * Buddhist Monuments in the Hōryū-ji Area (1993)
    * Himeji-jo (1993)
    * Shirakami-Sanchi (1993)
    * Yakushima (1993)
    * Historic Monuments of Ancient Kyoto (Kyoto, Uji and Otsu Cities) (1994)
    * Historic Villages of Shirakawa-go and Gokayama (1995)
    * Hiroshima Peace Memorial (Genbaku Dome) (1996)
    * Itsukushima Shinto Shrine (1996)
    * Historic Monuments of Ancient Nara (1998)
    * Shrines and Temples of Nikkō, including Nikkō Tōshō-gū, Futarasan Shrine, and Rinnō-ji (1999)
    * Gusuku Sites and Related Properties of the Kingdom of Ryukyu (2000)
    * Sacred Sites and Pilgrimage Routes in the Kii Mountain Range (2004)
    * Shiretoko (2005)
    * Iwami Ginzan Silver Mine and its Cultural Landscape (2007)

It makes sense that the Royalty cede its holdings over to the United Nations Corporation, as they became partners in the very early 1900s when Japan entered the Anglo-Japanese Alliance (1902/1905/1911), the Four-Power Treaty (1921) and the Emperor was accepted into the Royal Order of Garter in 1901.

"The banner of Emperor Hirohito of Japan was removed from St. George's chapel when Japan entered World War II, but that banner and the Japanese monarch's knighthood were restored by Elizabeth II. The Emperor was particularly pleased by the restoration of his banner as a Knight of the Garter."

List of Knights and Ladies of the Garter
The Most Noble Order of the Garter
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« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2009, 01:23:09 PM »

HERE IS THE LINK FOR THE SLIDE SHOW THAT LORD CHRISTOPHER MONCKTON WAS PRESENTING DURING HIS LECTURE..

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« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2009, 06:35:58 PM »

Ultimately, all of you who worship royalty... and think that somehow hereditary succession has anything to do with anything here, are missing what the founding fathers of this country knew... Barack Obama can only give to the world government that which is already in its possession. That would be the corporate United States! Not the Republic of the United States of America. You need to stand up and speak out for the protection of your birth right.

Wake up and smell the righteous aroma of liberty... and stop wasting your time with their 3 card Monte Ponzi scheme!

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« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2009, 08:37:27 PM »

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113347

"We just put that out there and made them write what Plouffe had said as opposed to Plouffe doing an interview with a reporter. So it was very much we controlled it as opposed to the press controlled it," Dunn said.

"Whether it was a David Plouffe video or an Obama speech, a huge part of our press strategy was focused on making the media cover what Obama was actually saying as opposed to why the campaign was saying it, what the tactic was. … Making the press cover what we were saying."

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« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2009, 07:02:16 AM »

Ultimately, all of you who worship royalty... and think that somehow hereditary succession has anything to do with anything here, are missing what the founding fathers of this country knew... Barack Obama can only give to the world government that which is already in its possession. That would be the corporate United States! Not the Republic of the United States of America. You need to stand up and speak out for the protection of your birth right.

Wake up and smell the righteous aroma of liberty... and stop wasting your time with their 3 card Monte Ponzi scheme!

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Shit, JT is soon going to be quoted with that one.

RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
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« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2009, 01:41:06 PM »

Shit, JT is soon going to be quoted with that one.

RIGHT ON THE MONEY!

 Well maybe so... all I can say right now is, we are at that point in the endgame where it's almost the end of the end game... and I've grown weary of bantering with people's opinions many who haven't lived any of this stuff... I have. You of all people know my research, you also understand exactly where I come from... I'm tired of beating around the bush. If people do not realize and rally to the sweet smell of liberty now, that sweet fire will be darkened and trampled to damp dank coals within the next 12-24 months and America won't even be a memory, because those of us who are old enough to remember what America is... will be gone.

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« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2009, 05:05:14 PM »

Guys are these the text of the treaty he is referring too?

NGOs Create Blueprint for Copenhagen Climate Agreement
Bonn report cover Climate change experts from leading non-governmental organizations released their blueprint for a legally binding Copenhagen agreement on June 8, 2009 in Bonn, Germany.

The 160-page Copenhagen Climate Treaty, which took some of the world's most experienced climate NGOs almost a year to write, was distributed to negotiators from 192 states at the June talks in Bonn. The document contains a full legal text covering all the main elements needed to provide a fair and ambitious agreement that keeps climate change impacts below unacceptable risk levels being identified by most scientists. It is intended to serve as the benchmark for governments negotiating a new climate deal and shows how differences between rich and poor nations can be overcome.

NGO A Copenhagen Climate Treaty
http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/climate/copenhagen_climate_treaty_060609.pdf

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http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/climate/final_treaty_legal_text_with_cover.pdf

Got it from this site:
http://www.manitobawildlands.org/cc_meetings.htm
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« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2009, 11:24:16 PM »

Short newsflash: Dr Deagle touched on this matter in his last show -1023093.  He mentioned that Dr Michael Coffman is coming his show next week to address this issue and that Christopher Monckton was a very good man, with good intentions and knows what he is talking about. I will post the link to the Coffman interview show when it is available. 
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« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2009, 12:29:37 AM »

Guys are these the text of the treaty he is referring too?

NGOs Create Blueprint for Copenhagen Climate Agreement
Bonn report cover Climate change experts from leading non-governmental organizations released their blueprint for a legally binding Copenhagen agreement on June 8, 2009 in Bonn, Germany.

The 160-page Copenhagen Climate Treaty, which took some of the world's most experienced climate NGOs almost a year to write, was distributed to negotiators from 192 states at the June talks in Bonn. The document contains a full legal text covering all the main elements needed to provide a fair and ambitious agreement that keeps climate change impacts below unacceptable risk levels being identified by most scientists. It is intended to serve as the benchmark for governments negotiating a new climate deal and shows how differences between rich and poor nations can be overcome.

NGO A Copenhagen Climate Treaty
http://www.davidsuzuki.org/files/climate/copenhagen_climate_treaty_060609.pdf

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Hi Chris, sorry to have butted in with that newsflash.  According to WattsUpWithThat, in an item dated the 3rd of October, this is the draft of the Copenhagen Climate Change Treaty currently out of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change working group and dated September the 15th.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/un-fccc-copenhagen-2009.pdf

Refer:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/03/the-copenhagen-treaty-draft-wealth-transfer-defined-now-with-dignity-penalty/
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« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2009, 02:06:17 AM »

Obama not president , but Chief Traitor.
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« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2009, 04:27:44 AM »

Obama not president , but Chief Traitor.

Yes, I agree! I heard Rev. Ted Pike of TruthTellers.org recommended on Bill Deagle's show that everyone should send a message to the chief traitor to remind him that the people care, like this one below:

Dear Mr. President,

I will never forgive or forget if you sign away America’s sovereignty at the Copenhagen conference in December.

You can cut and paste it in at: www.whitehouse.gov/contact,

or mail to: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue  NW, Washington DC, 20500.
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« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2009, 11:08:51 PM »

Dictator obama not going to Copenhagen   Huh   Huh

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6888165.ece


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« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2009, 02:09:19 AM »

Dictator obama not going to Copenhagen   Huh   Huh

Bush has a clever response
Bush "Fool Me Once..."
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There's an old saying Tennessee I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that goes:

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Maybe the Prophet Bush will have more words of wisdom in the years to come.
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« Reply #63 on: October 26, 2009, 09:31:47 PM »

Dictator obama not going to Copenhagen   Huh   Huh

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6888165.ece


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From what I understand, it's b/c he'll be accepting his 'Nobel Peace Prize' elsewhere - BTW, I've read that this is supposed to kick off the disclosure of these so-called 'aliens'.
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« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2009, 02:21:30 AM »

Nutrimedical.com 26th October 09

Dr Bill Deagle  interviewed Robert Felix of Ice Age Now – they discussed the Copenhagen Treaty, Lord Monckton’s speech about this Treaty, the IPCC, and more.

Dr Deagle also spoke with Rev Ted Pike of TruthTellers.Org regarding what action you can take to stop Obama from signing the Hate Bill and the Copenhagen Treaty.

http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast//nutri_med/1026093.mp3
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« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2009, 05:30:35 AM »

Dictator obama not going to Copenhagen   Huh   Huh

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6888165.ece


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Very revealing article. And it shows the arrogant attitude of Obama...

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The White House confirmed that the President would be in Oslo to accept the prize, but a source close to the Administration said it was “hard to see the benefit” of his going to Copenhagen if there was no comprehensive deal for him to close or sign. Another expert, who did not want to be named, said he would be “really, really shocked” if Mr Obama went to Copenhagen, adding that European hopes about the power of his Administration to transform the climate change debate in a matter of months bore little relation to reality. The comprehensive climate change treaty that for years has been the goal of the Copenhagen conference was now an “unrealistic” prospect, Yvo de Boer, the UN official guiding the process, said last week.

Confirmed to go get some bling for his Obamaness, but won't show for a conference that's trying to improve the climate. Hmm, he promotes social service and sacrifice to make things better, yet he decides accepting personal awards is a better use of his time. I guess pitching the Olympics was better use as well.

His words say it's all about the people, but his actions say it's all about him.
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« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2009, 07:12:11 AM »

Alan Jones talks to Lord Monckton, British climate change sceptic, who says the Copenhagen treaty is about creating a world government

http://2gb.com.au/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4998

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« Reply #67 on: November 02, 2009, 12:26:03 AM »

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