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The Shining (1980)
« on: October 15, 2009, 04:57:00 AM »
Hell of a read:

(This is actually quite convincing)



The Shining is surely Stanley Kubrick's most misunderstood masterpiece.

I use the word 'masterpiece' guardedly because I have never really thought that The Shining was a very good film.

At the time, in 1980 when I first saw it, I didn't like it at all. The way that Kubrick threw out so much of Stephen King's great source material and replaced it with a lot of things that just didn't seem to make any sense, really bothered me.

Hopefully, before I am finished with this essay, the reader will see it is only when Kubrick dramatically alters the script from Stephen King's novel that we can begin to understand what Stanley Kubrick is trying to tell us in his version of The Shining.

It should be understood from the beginning that The Shining is Stanley Kubrick's most personal film (outside of, possibly, Eyes Wide Shut). Before we are done here it will be easy to see that Kubrick was only using Stephen King's novel as a launching pad (excuse the pun) to be able to tell a completely different story under the guise of making a film based on a best-selling novel. He did this for a very important reason - mainly to save his life.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2009, 04:58:25 AM »
Yes, I read through it all a few times, it is very hard to dismiss.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2009, 08:35:36 AM »
Hrmm.... where does this Kubrick faked the moon landing originate from anyhow?

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2009, 09:39:40 AM »
Interesting read.

I remember watching a documentary about Kubrick ( the name escapes me at this moment ) that  talks about NASA giving him a special lens that he used to make the film Barry Lyndon.  Just something I wanted to add.


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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2009, 10:03:17 AM »
I don't believe that we didn't go to the moon. That's not to say that I don't think the essay above is a great read.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2009, 11:43:38 AM »
Hell of a read:

(This is actually quite convincing)


One hell of a read...you got that right. I read this last Sunday, along with a few other essays this guy wrote about the Stanley Kubrick, 2001 and the Apollo moon landings and my mind was completely blown out.

I've never been into reading about the moon landing hoaxes and my opinion was always that of, well they've lied and faked just about everything else...the chances are pretty good that the moon landings were faked, but what's the point debating it?

This writer's case is very compelling and the thought of the genius of Kubrick telling two stories this in the movie Shining just makes me feel mentally insignificant  :(

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 12:19:45 PM »
the REAL story of Stanley Kubrick - one wonders if it'll ever come out.

one wonders if any of it's real.

I enjoyed this Shining article - not totally convinced; but that's the evidential system, finding things that fit one's theory.

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 12:21:43 PM »
I thought it better than the book.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 01:11:27 PM »
Wow, I never gave much thought to the moon landings being faked... but this information is really incredible!
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 08:36:54 PM »
Arrr - that is very interesting.  A11, if it referred to something other than "All" could have referred to the number of astronauts who were assassinated too? [1]
  I thought the film was being used as a vehicle by Kubrick when I saw it a few weeks ago and saw that jumper the boy had on, that had the Apollo rocket on it.

[1]  From Book: Suppressed Inventions and other Discoveries - True Stories of Suppression Scientific Cover Up (p286 in pdf version).
Chapter: Did NASA  Sabotage Its Own Space  Capsule?
From NASA Mooned America! by Rene

ACCIDENTS
Compared to civilian test pilots the astronauts were underpaid. However,
their perks were impressive. Their celebrity status instantly conferred upon
them all the bonuses usually associated with show business stardom. Each
night on the town provided them with all the young women they could
handle, plus free drinks in every bar in the country. They were also given
a government jet trainer as a personal toy.
Test pilots have a hazardous occupation which probably sees as many
fatalities per unit of time as do men in combat. However, before the first
Apollo manned flight ever cleared the launching pad eleven astronauts died in accidents.
Grissom, Chaffee, and White were cremated in an
Apollo capsule test on the launching pad during a completely and suspiciously
unnecessary test. Seven died in six air crashes: Freemen, Basset
and See, Rogers, Williams, Adams and Lawrence. Givens was killed in a
car crash.
When you reflect on their deaths in the light of the three-man-instant
crematorium one wonders. Add the fact that there were eight deaths in
1967 alone. One wonders if these "accidents" weren't NASA's way of
correcting mistakes and saying that some of these men really didn't have
the "Right Stuff."
After 1967, only Taylor died in another plane crash in 1970. An actuarial
statistician would probably go berserk over these numbers considering
how small the group was. Another weighty factor, even though they
were "hot" pilots, the astronauts flew their trainer jets only part time. And
add to that the fact that trainers are usually inherently safer than other
planes in the same class. It would raise his eyebrows to find how few of
these men would ever enter space.
I can't help but wonder what technicians serviced their ships—because
what we have here is an appalling "accident" rate. They were the finest
professional pilots in the world, operating government planes where costs
have little meaning. Yet they died. Even if we call the cremation an accident
we still have five more "accident" deaths in one year. Very interesting!
I also wonder what the death rate was among the other NASA
employees who were in position to know too much?

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 01:07:49 AM »
Kubrick was encoding things into his movies since at least when he made Dr Strangelove.

Check out this fascinating YouTube clip by a guy named Rob Ager, who noticed a strange object resembling the head and shoulders of a man (at least to me anyway) falling out of the elevator and plopping onto the floor in the famous "river of blood" scene from The Shining - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7-GKHM5HZ8 I have seen this film at least 40 times, and never noticed the object falling out of the elevator. It was probably hidden there by Kubrick intentionally, just waiting around for years for someone to find it. Now we know why it took him years to make a film - he was layering multiple meanings, clues and story lines into all his films after Dr. Strangelove. One of the very best of all film makers, no doubt about that.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 01:16:51 AM »
Hrmm.... where does this Kubrick faked the moon landing originate from anyhow?

Read this, it's pretty compelling:

http://jayweidner.com/AlchemicalKubrickIIa.html

Not saying I believe it, but it's very interesting...
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2009, 01:22:18 AM »
I wouldn't say the moon landings were fake, I just do not think they could get live shots of them walking on it and staged it--with the help of Hollywood.

Nevertheless, that was an very interesting read...and if it is true that moon landing was a hoax, it really wouldn't surprise me given the governments track record at truthfulness.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2009, 01:31:43 AM »
Isn't it fascinating that Kubrick insisted that Eyes Wide Shut be released on the exact date of July 16, 1999? That is the exact 30 year anniversary of the Apollo 11 lift off! Why would Kubrick do that? And isn't it also fascinating how he died 2 days after handing over the supposed final cut of the movie to Warner Brothers? Eyes Wide Shut is the conspiracy movie to end all conspiracy movies: weird Masonic sex magic ritual filmed in actual mansion once owned by a Rothschild; girl possibly murdered at ritual as human sacrifice; nude girls kneeling on bended knee, encircling sinister high priest in red robe and gold mask as Satanic, other worldly sounding music accompanies proceedings; girls slowly rise to their feet in trance like manner (MK ultra/trauma based mind control sex slaves ala Fritz Springmeier?)  and wander into shadowy recesses of mansion to engage in Saturnalian like orgies with other masked participants; wealthy man unconvincingly tries to explain it all away at the end, says girl died of natural causes - overdose, etc, etc, etc.

I heard Alex mention on his show last week that some Hollywood insider told him of a rumor that Kubrick was poisoned by someone putting something in his tea. Who knows. I doubt very much that he died of "natural causes."

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2009, 02:03:08 AM »
blows my mind

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2009, 06:22:41 AM »
Isn't it fascinating that Kubrick insisted that Eyes Wide Shut be released on the exact date of July 16, 1999? That is the exact 30 year anniversary of the Apollo 11 lift off! Why would Kubrick do that? And isn't it also fascinating how he died 2 days after handing over the supposed final cut of the movie to Warner Brothers? Eyes Wide Shut is the conspiracy movie to end all conspiracy movies: weird Masonic sex magic ritual filmed in actual mansion once owned by a Rothschild; girl possibly murdered at ritual as human sacrifice; nude girls kneeling on bended knee, encircling sinister high priest in red robe and gold mask as Satanic, other worldly sounding music accompanies proceedings; girls slowly rise to their feet in trance like manner (MK ultra/trauma based mind control sex slaves ala Fritz Springmeier?)  and wander into shadowy recesses of mansion to engage in Saturnalian like orgies with other masked participants; wealthy man unconvincingly tries to explain it all away at the end, says girl died of natural causes - overdose, etc, etc, etc.

I heard Alex mention on his show last week that some Hollywood insider told him of a rumor that Kubrick was poisoned by someone putting something in his tea. Who knows. I doubt very much that he died of "natural causes."

So he insisted EWS be released on the 30th anniversary of the A11 lift off.  He was trying to communicate that there was a connection(s) between the two?
The Kidman character states she dreamt about being in an empty city in Eyes Wide Shut -a reference to the eugenics agenda? Half-an-hour of footage may have been cut out, as Alex mentioned, but there is still plenty of meat and potatoes left in it.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2009, 10:20:43 AM »
The openning scene is almost like a scene of a lunar landing, rapid acceleration at low altitudes. possibly interlave some of the moon landings with the openning scene of the shinning. Also the manager when talking to Jack uses masonic hand signals, not sure their meaning.

Driving up to the hotel with his family, after a discussion about cannibalism, Jack says: "see it is ok, he saw it on the television." in a condescending way as if to say "people have no idea how much BS and distortion of truth occurs on the TV."

people who stayed at the hotel...4 presidents, movie stars, celebrities. wife asked: "royalty" and manager responds "all the best people"

Moving on, wife says: "a lot of activity going on"

"by 5:00 O'clock tonight you will never know anyone was here."

"Just like a ghost ship"

moving on: cook: "why don't you want to talk about it"

son: "i am not supposed to"

i do not believe stanley kubrick ever allowed one frame of film to be in his movies without verifying that every corner, every shade of light, every tone, voice, etc. was perfect and represented a piece of the communications to his audiences.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2009, 10:42:56 AM »
Isn't it fascinating that Kubrick insisted that Eyes Wide Shut be released on the exact date of July 16, 1999? That is the exact 30 year anniversary of the Apollo 11 lift off! Why would Kubrick do that? And isn't it also fascinating how he died 2 days after handing over the supposed final cut of the movie to Warner Brothers? Eyes Wide Shut is the conspiracy movie to end all conspiracy movies: weird Masonic sex magic ritual filmed in actual mansion once owned by a Rothschild; girl possibly murdered at ritual as human sacrifice; nude girls kneeling on bended knee, encircling sinister high priest in red robe and gold mask as Satanic, other worldly sounding music accompanies proceedings; girls slowly rise to their feet in trance like manner (MK ultra/trauma based mind control sex slaves ala Fritz Springmeier?)  and wander into shadowy recesses of mansion to engage in Saturnalian like orgies with other masked participants; wealthy man unconvincingly tries to explain it all away at the end, says girl died of natural causes - overdose, etc, etc, etc.

I heard Alex mention on his show last week that some Hollywood insider told him of a rumor that Kubrick was poisoned by someone putting something in his tea. Who knows. I doubt very much that he died of "natural causes."

It truly is a masterpiece and the most daring movie ever made. Even the casting is stunning. He mocks clueless and brainwashed Tom Cruise by casting him in a movie about the higher order from which Scientology derives. He was really rubbing the occult's nose in it. The timing of his death had to be meant as a warning to any other director who contemplated following in his footsteps.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2009, 11:48:42 AM »
Very intriguing story indeed!

Here the docu which is "Hiding in Plane sight" in my opinion cause later it supose to be a fake docu?

Don't believe a bit of it, it' s exactly what the satanistic masonics like; "Hiding in plane sight" what they always do and like.

In this Docu also this special light sensitive lens, lend from NASA which Stanley Kubrick used in an other movie is mentioned.

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUOItuKm5UE

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpeIs5MFTYU

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDL1ugE7Tfw

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr_yNefhINw

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RXrKRuNvNU

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5YyolUHAw

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZfHLxWfCLQ

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivU7WObCFzs

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bhpfy-4mws
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2009, 01:00:03 AM »
Very intriguing story indeed!

Here the docu which is "Hiding in Plane sight" in my opinion cause later it supose to be a fake docu?

Don't believe a bit of it, it' s exactly what the satanistic masonics like; "Hiding in plane sight" what they always do and like.

In this Docu also this special light sensitive lens, lend from NASA which Stanley Kubrick used in an other movie is mentioned.

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUOItuKm5UE

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpeIs5MFTYU

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDL1ugE7Tfw

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr_yNefhINw

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RXrKRuNvNU

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5YyolUHAw

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZfHLxWfCLQ

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivU7WObCFzs

Moon Landing A Fake or Fact part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bhpfy-4mws

Before seeing this documentary, I was NOT entirely convinced that the moon landing was a fraud. But that incredible documentary makes the case for a solid indictment against Nixon Inc.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2009, 06:38:07 AM »
Wasn't this lens used in Barry Lyndon to simulate those candle-lit paintings of old?

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/sk/ac/len/page1.htm
At the very early stages of his preparation for "BARRY LYNDON", Kubrick scoured the world looking for exotic, ultra-fast lenses, because he knew he would be shooting extremely low light level scenes. It was his objective, incredible as it seemed at the time, to photograph candle-lit scenes in old English castles by only the light of the candles themselves!

In this Docu also this special light sensitive lens, lend from NASA which Stanley Kubrick used in an other movie is mentioned.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2009, 03:35:10 PM »
Arrr - that is very interesting.  A11, if it referred to something other than "All" could have referred to the number of astronauts who were assassinated too? [1]
  I thought the film was being used as a vehicle by Kubrick when I saw it a few weeks ago and saw that jumper the boy had on, that had the Apollo rocket on it.

[1]  From Book: Suppressed Inventions and other Discoveries - True Stories of Suppression Scientific Cover Up (p286 in pdf version).
Chapter: Did NASA  Sabotage Its Own Space  Capsule?
From NASA Mooned America! by Rene

ACCIDENTS
Compared to civilian test pilots the astronauts were underpaid. However,
their perks were impressive. Their celebrity status instantly conferred upon
them all the bonuses usually associated with show business stardom. Each
night on the town provided them with all the young women they could
handle, plus free drinks in every bar in the country. They were also given
a government jet trainer as a personal toy.
Test pilots have a hazardous occupation which probably sees as many
fatalities per unit of time as do men in combat. However, before the first
Apollo manned flight ever cleared the launching pad eleven astronauts died in accidents.
Grissom, Chaffee, and White were cremated in an
Apollo capsule test on the launching pad during a completely and suspiciously
unnecessary test. Seven died in six air crashes: Freemen, Basset
and See, Rogers, Williams, Adams and Lawrence. Givens was killed in a
car crash.
When you reflect on their deaths in the light of the three-man-instant
crematorium one wonders. Add the fact that there were eight deaths in
1967 alone. One wonders if these "accidents" weren't NASA's way of
correcting mistakes and saying that some of these men really didn't have
the "Right Stuff."
After 1967, only Taylor died in another plane crash in 1970. An actuarial
statistician would probably go berserk over these numbers considering
how small the group was. Another weighty factor, even though they
were "hot" pilots, the astronauts flew their trainer jets only part time. And
add to that the fact that trainers are usually inherently safer than other
planes in the same class. It would raise his eyebrows to find how few of
these men would ever enter space.
I can't help but wonder what technicians serviced their ships—because
what we have here is an appalling "accident" rate. They were the finest
professional pilots in the world, operating government planes where costs
have little meaning. Yet they died. Even if we call the cremation an accident
we still have five more "accident" deaths in one year. Very interesting!
I also wonder what the death rate was among the other NASA
employees who were in position to know too much?



There was a fourth astronaut that died in the capsule fire on the launching pad.  His name -- indeed, his very existence -- has never been disclosed.  This is one of the best kept secrets ever.  John Lear discusses this astronaut and the fire that killed the four astronauts within the first four minutes of this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7nsk7aHMl4

The undisclosed astronaut was part of the secret astronaut program.  I must confess, this is new to me.  I didn't learn about it until this past week. 

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2009, 04:10:25 PM »
INTERESTING READ!!   8)
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2009, 05:48:12 PM »
Here is a much more realistic breakdown of the Shining.


http://www.drummerman.net/shining/essays.html

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2009, 06:09:03 PM »
Here is a much more realistic breakdown of the Shining.


http://www.drummerman.net/shining/essays.html

"The Shining is not really about the murders at the Overlook Hotel. It is about the murder of a race - the race of Native Americans - and the consequences of that murder."

kubrick operated in layers. the genocide of indians seems to be one as well. Especially the woman that he at first kisses then seems to have some disease (could be the smallpox trick or things to come regarding AIDS, manufactured STDs).

the look on Jack's face in the movie is exactly Stanley's face when he is focused, this is too odd.

I have watched the movie a few times with many various contexts to look at.  I believe the one thing most compelling is that he exposed the elite method of deception and using compromised people for their objjectives based on deception and fear.

Near the end of the movie when his wife is running through the hotel, there are various scary images, but there is also a scene with a person dressed as a fluffy woodland critter giving a blowjob to an elite on a bed.

this seems to be another stab at the elite and their pagan rituals that can be later used for extortion.

i do not think he liked the elite methods of depopulation very much.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2009, 06:31:17 PM »
Cool, enjoyed it.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2009, 08:04:17 PM »
kubrick operated in layers. the genocide of indians seems to be one as well. Especially the woman that he at first kisses then seems to have some disease (could be the smallpox trick or things to come regarding AIDS, manufactured STDs).

the look on Jack's face in the movie is exactly Stanley's face when he is focused, this is too odd.

I have watched the movie a few times with many various contexts to look at.  I believe the one thing most compelling is that he exposed the elite method of deception and using compromised people for their objjectives based on deception and fear.

Near the end of the movie when his wife is running through the hotel, there are various scary images, but there is also a scene with a person dressed as a fluffy woodland critter giving a blowjob to an elite on a bed.

this seems to be another stab at the elite and their pagan rituals that can be later used for extortion.

i do not think he liked the elite methods of depopulation very much.

i agree with you.

this scene you describe also takes place in the novel and is much more thoroughly explained. Kubrick kept that imagery in the movie (albeit unexplained), to add to the macabre climax.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2009, 08:26:10 PM »
I wonder what the significance if there is any of the part where they show the picture of Jack at the hotel long ago and that he has always been the caretaker. any thoughts?
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2009, 09:07:43 PM »
I wonder what the significance if there is any of the part where they show the picture of Jack at the hotel long ago and that he has always been the caretaker. any thoughts?

probably layered meanings, but the one that serves the OP is that they can manufacture images to be what they are not even though you know damn well it is fake, it is advertised as real.

as far as the entire idea that we did not land on the moon, i do not believe it. but i do believe that things are faked with NASA and that fraud is committed against the american people by using funds for international military and technology objectives using the budget designed for humanitarian space exploration. I believe NASA conducts eugenics projects, helps research bio/chem/nuke weaponsy, consuct radioactive/microwave mind control experiments, and has contributed to many horrific deaths and deception.

2010 is basically project blue beam where the image, voice, and information about a new messiah is projected onto us.

this in itself served the NWO, and also, the computer was held harmless for the activities in 2001.

who knows what part of the deception he wished to expose, but i do agree it had to do with some personal turmoil in working for these pieces of shit.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2009, 09:54:42 PM »
probably layered meanings, but the one that serves the OP is that they can manufacture images to be what they are not even though you know damn well it is fake, it is advertised as real.

as far as the entire idea that we did not land on the moon, i do not believe it. but i do believe that things are faked with NASA and that fraud is committed against the american people by using funds for international military and technology objectives using the budget designed for humanitarian space exploration. I believe NASA conducts eugenics projects, helps research bio/chem/nuke weaponsy, consuct radioactive/microwave mind control experiments, and has contributed to many horrific deaths and deception.

2010 is basically project blue beam where the image, voice, and information about a new messiah is projected onto us.

this in itself served the NWO, and also, the computer was held harmless for the activities in 2001.

who knows what part of the deception he wished to expose, but i do agree it had to do with some personal turmoil in working for these pieces of shit.

Ok, so if we did land on the moon, then why do you think the pictures are faked?  I thinks it's fairly obvious they are.....
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2009, 10:29:24 PM »
Ok, so if we did land on the moon, then why do you think the pictures are faked?  I thinks it's fairly obvious they are.....

some are and some are not, some things are fake and some things are real.

but they are the only ones allowed to know the truth and the truth is that there is trillions in fraud going on.

this has been exposed by a hacker who has been imprisoned for exposing truth.

arguing about whether we landed on the moon is a hegelian dialectic tat they own. but committing fraud against the people of the US is an argument they cannot win.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2009, 10:41:29 PM »
Ok, so if we did land on the moon, then why do you think the pictures are faked?  I thinks it's fairly obvious they are.....

i think they are faked because NASA and the Shadow Govt don't really want us to know what they're really doing up there. Authors such as Richard Hoagland and Joseph P. Farrell have really excellent books about this subject. Hoagland even states that the "we never went to the moon" notion was started by NASA in the '60's as a diversion or higalien dialectic to keep us chasing our tails.
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2009, 12:32:25 AM »
You need to see the video!  :D
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2009, 04:36:26 AM »
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2009, 09:52:52 PM »
"Been away, Lloyd, but now I'm back."

Really have been away.  Glad I saw this.  Interesting read.  The guy may have nailed it.

I remember reading the book right before seeing the movie, and there were differences.  But they're different mediums.  If Kubrick sneaked a coded message about Apollo 11 into The Shining, then good for him. 

I do recall thinking that the movie emphasized, allegorically, how the Americans are just the caretakers of the British Empire.  Since then, I've come to view America as England's offshore bank, so that view would still hold up. 

I've come to think Eyes Wide Shut was Kubrick's version of putting a gun to his head.  A slow motion suicide.  No allegory or hidden messages in that one--just "Here's the people who run things, and this is what they do to you if you get out of line."  And they did it to Kubrick. 

I just hope someone comes across his home movies of the moon landing set someday.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2010, 11:40:28 AM »
Hell of a read:

(This is actually quite convincing)...




continue reading ------->
http://www.jayweidner.com/ShiningSecrets.html

Just picked up the blu ray of this, lookin' forward to seeing it through new eyes.
Hopefully it won't be as damn scary as it has been for me in the past.

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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
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Re: Stunning Secrets Of Kubrick's 'The Shining'
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2010, 09:13:24 PM »
Was Halloran in the original book?

drop the H

A11 o ran

Apollo 11 did not run

that is my contribution anyway.

brilliant info, the truth really is stranger than fiction.