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I wish Alex would stop inviting this guy. He has made a mockery of the movement. I mentioned Alex's show to a friend this morning, and he was like "HA he has that guy who thinks the Queen is a Reptilian brood mother who wants to take over the world on his show"... then laughed off everything I tried to tell him. This guy serves no purpose other than to make the movement a laughing stock. I don't understand why Alex keeps inviting him back. It's not doing good for the cause. Let him go back to telling tall tails about Reptilian blood lines and how we are all under control from an extra terrestrial reptilian species on his own show.  Leave ours alone...
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 12:15:13 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 12:24:17 PM » |
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The reptilian thing is a bit out in left field (and over the fence). However, Icke brings up a lot of valid points about other things as well. Ha, but wouldn't it be quite funny if in later years, Icke was right.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 12:25:28 PM » |
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I think he has some interesting things to say apart from the inter-dimensional beings and such. Its a bit silly to discount everything he says because of this. I am not a religous person and its like me ignoring what Alex has to say because he talks about God alot.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 12:26:57 PM » |
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I disagree. Revolution of consciousness is needed. David Icke is great at opening minds. Also, Its a bit silly to discount everything he says because of this.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 12:27:43 PM » |
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I'm not religious either, however Alex is infinitely more credible than Icke.. and a lot of people call that credibility into question when he has people like this on his show.
And I agree, Icke has a lot of good things to say, but when the basis of those things can be traced back to his Reptoid beliefs, it makes it hard for people to take him, and unfortunately in turn, Alex, seriously.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 12:30:43 PM » |
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Icke is one of the most thoughtful speakers out there, certainly one of the most articulate.
I rate him highly as a guest, as I do Alan Watt.
He is a very popular guest and has done a lot to bring Alex Jones' show to European listeners.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 12:31:53 PM » |
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I wish Alex would stop inviting this guy. He has made a mockery of the movement. I mentioned Alex's show to a friend this morning, and he was like "HA he has that guy who thinks the Queen is a Reptilian brood mother who wants to take over the world on his show"... then laughed off everything I tried to tell him. This guy serves no purpose other than to make the movement a laughing stock. I don't understand why Alex keeps inviting him back. It's not doing good for the cause. Let him go back to telling tall tails about Reptilian blood lines and how we are all under control from an extra terrestrial reptilian species on his own show.  Leave ours alone... It might help if your moronic friend knew what Icke is referencing when he says reptilian, seems neither do you for that matter. No doubt you think he said he was Jesus Christ too huh?
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 12:34:27 PM » |
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It might help if your moronic friend knew what Icke is referencing when he says reptilian, seems neither do you for that matter. No doubt you think he said he was Jesus Christ too huh?
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 12:35:18 PM » |
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That was a nice pointless reply there OG.. keep the useless flames to yourself please... 
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 12:37:50 PM » |
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The reptilian thing is a bit out in left field (and over the fence). However, Icke brings up a lot of valid points about other things as well. Ha, but wouldn't it be quite funny if in later years, Icke was right.
Funny? The soul of these people will develop into lizards ,it is a decision they made long ago. Time isn't linear thats just the illusion of the physical body.Their future incarnations will be as the lizard people because God will lock them out of the earths reality soon.The changes coming to this planet means we will all see their demonic nature soon enough. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 12:54:12 PM » |
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I like David Icke and I only started listening to Alex's show after he stopped attacking David Icke. David Icke and Alex Jones make a great team; Alex is all about the hard facts, whereas Icke loves to discuss the metaphysics and big picture. I think you can learn a lot from what he has to say without having to believe all his spiritual beliefs. However I absolutely think that the man is sincere in what he believes.
I thought the interview yesterday was fantastic. We need to all unite in this movement and not be divisive over how far down the rabbit hole goes.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 01:04:55 PM » |
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Icke just piggybacked off of Zecharia Sitchin on the one hand and Gary Allen on the other, combined the two and launched himself into Metaphysical Bookstores everywhere. I think he mixes truth and disinfo to the point where you just can't get behind the guy. If someone was smart they would leave the reptoids at the door and use his new-age anti-NWO stance to launch their carriers.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 01:15:10 PM » |
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Icke just piggybacked off of Zecharia Sitchin on the one hand and Gary Allen on the other, combined the two and launched himself into Metaphysical Bookstores everywhere. I think he mixes truth and disinfo to the point where you just can't get behind the guy. If someone was smart they would leave the reptoids at the door and use his new-age anti-NWO stance to launch their carriers.
Maybe it's not disinfo and you just -- guess what -- don't agree with everything he believes. This is normal and healthy for human beings.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 01:17:51 PM » |
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Maybe it's not disinfo and you just -- guess what -- don't agree with everything he believes. This is normal and healthy for human beings.
all Sitchin is disinfo.
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2009, 01:18:05 PM » |
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I agree. Whenever he's on, I say: "Oh God, not that idiot again," & turn the volume down.
I love the way he says that reality is not really reality -- it's just an "experience" that we call reality -- but, gosh darn it, he can't explain why we can't stand out on the Interstate & not get hit by trucks ...
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2009, 01:19:33 PM » |
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This guy serves no purpose other than to make the movement a laughing stock.
Perhaps you are not smart enough to undertsand what he brings to the table... Since when the so-called and apparently exclusive "movement" should share the same opinions on everything? But let me get this straight.. you dislike Icke but you go tell your friend to listen to AJ's show the day Icke is a guest ? 
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2009, 01:20:02 PM » |
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I enjoy Icke, very intelligent.
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2009, 01:20:57 PM » |
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Icke just piggybacked off of Zecharia Sitchin on the one hand and Gary Allen on the other, combined the two and launched himself into Metaphysical Bookstores everywhere. I think he mixes truth and disinfo to the point where you just can't get behind the guy. If someone was smart they would leave the reptoids at the door and use his new-age anti-NWO stance to launch their carriers.
Icke also "piggybacked" (aka: ripped off) Walter J. Veith, a Christian who patently does NOT believe in metaphysics, nor reptoids ...
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2009, 01:21:09 PM » |
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all Sitchin is disinfo.
How so? He's got an interesting idea, you don't have to think it's the absolute truth.
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2009, 01:22:46 PM » |
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How so? He's got an interesting idea, you don't have to think it's the absolute truth.
he presents it as absolute truth. even when he is proven wrong, he still presents it as truth. anything for a dollar, he fits right in with the snake oil salesmen.
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I agree. Whenever he's on, I say: "Oh God, not that idiot again," & turn the volume down.
I love the way he says that reality is not really reality -- it's just an "experience" that we call reality -- but, gosh darn it, he can't explain why we can't stand out on the Interstate & not get hit by trucks ...
Good grief... and you call him the idiot?
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Icke also "piggybacked" (aka: ripped off) Walter J. Veith, a Christian who patently does NOT believe in metaphysics, nor reptoids ...
So David Icke takes ideas from several different people and synthesizes it together to represent to himself a coherent whole. That's how all knowledge works.
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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2009, 01:27:28 PM » |
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 Can't we all...just get along?
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2009, 01:27:38 PM » |
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How so? He's got an interesting idea, you don't have to think it's the absolute truth.
He is a fraud. Purposefully misreads translations to suit his theories. Alan Watt has exposed this fraud along with many others. Ill give you this, Icke has very good points but like someone said above it only leads you to the reptillian theory, so to quote Alex Jones in the Trio hit-piece: "David Icke is a turd in the punchbowl"
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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2009, 01:27:44 PM » |
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Perhaps you are not smart enough to undertsand ...
Oh yeah, now that's a brilliant tactic. Question & insult the intelligence of people who disagree with you &/or your heroes ... Perhaps you're the one who's not bright enough to "undertsand"?
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« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2009, 01:34:35 PM » |
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He is a fraud. Purposefully misreads translations to suit his theories. Alan Watt has exposed this fraud along with many others.
I didn't realize that understanding a language from over 6000 years ago was so cut and dry. Ill give you this, Icke has very good points but like someone said above it only leads you to the reptillian theory, so to quote Alex Jones in the Trio hit-piece: "David Icke is a turd in the punchbowl"
The turd in the punchbowl is intolerance.
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Oh yeah, now that's a brilliant tactic. Question & insult the intelligence of people who disagree with you &/or your heroes ... Perhaps you're the one who's not bright enough to "undertsand"?
yeah you got me, it was a tactic.. I had nothing else to counter his very thoughtful exposé of David Icke... I like the irony in your post btw.. brilliant
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« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2009, 01:35:56 PM » |
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I think this video is well suited for this discussion -- David Icke owns a brainwashed "psychologist": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCsDPSeiQk
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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2009, 01:37:28 PM » |
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I would have liked to of seen Alex interview Terrence McKenna before he died.
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« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2009, 01:39:03 PM » |
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Good grief... and you call him the idiot?
Oh boy -- I got one! You go out on a nice, busy, truck-filled Interstate & I'll take pictures, OK? Me document; you go squishy. Okie dokie? Hurry, hurry! Me cannot wait! Me in heap big hurry to show you big, big mental superiority over little, little neanderthal me. Oh boy. Natural selection in action. Me so happy. Darwin happy. Evolution true!
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So David Icke takes ideas from several different people and synthesizes it together to represent to himself a coherent whole. That's how all knowledge works.
"Taking," aka: stealing. True journalists acknowledge their sources.
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I didn't realize that understanding a language from over 6000 years ago was so cut and dry. The turd in the punchbowl is intolerance.
actually it is if you know how to read it. Apparently Sitchin dosent.
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"Taking," aka: stealing.
True journalists acknowledge their sources.
I roundly reject your notion that expression of thought is akin to theft. I do not consider David Icke a journalist, but his books are extensively footnoted and documented.
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« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2009, 01:46:24 PM » |
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Oh boy -- I got one! You go out on a nice, busy, truck-filled Interstate & I'll take pictures, OK? Me document; you go squishy. Okie dokie? Hurry, hurry! Me cannot wait! Me in heap big hurry to show you big, big mental superiority over little, little neanderthal me. Oh boy. Natural selection in action. Me so happy. Darwin happy. Evolution true!
Is this for real? You are joking or does this stuff just goes well over your head? Where did you get this idea that getting hit or not by a truck has anything to do with Icke's belief (shared by many btw) that this world is more or less a sophisticated form of virtual-reality..?
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actually it is if you know how to read it. Apparently Sitchin dosent.
Well then I'm glad to find out that all there is to know has already been discovered about the Sumerian language. That puts it way ahead of English, which people ceaselessly debate.
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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2009, 01:52:50 PM » |
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I wish Alex would stop inviting this guy. He has made a mockery of the movement. I mentioned Alex's show to a friend this morning, and he was like "HA he has that guy who thinks the Queen is a Reptilian brood mother who wants to take over the world on his show"... then laughed off everything I tried to tell him. This guy serves no purpose other than to make the movement a laughing stock. I don't understand why Alex keeps inviting him back. It's not doing good for the cause. Let him go back to telling tall tails about Reptilian blood lines and how we are all under control from an extra terrestrial reptilian species on his own show.  Leave ours alone... ignorance is bliss. i also take it you did not here Alex himself is now researching the "snake gods" theory i feel sorry for the people of the world who "pick and choose" what they wish to believe,when common sense should tell you,YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. people need to keep and open mind to ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING,because none of us will ever know until we die from this planet called earth,until then we ALL need to just try to find answers about this SHITHOLE we live on,and help each other down this path we are all taking........IMO
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Well then I'm glad to find out that all there is to know has already been discovered about the Sumerian language. That puts it way ahead of English, which people ceaselessly debate.
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