A Personal Story about how I like to spread the Reptilian agenda on truth sites

[freedomdomain]

Here's a true story, believe it or not. This story is about an encounter with a reptilian being. It is 100% true to the best of my knowledge. I am a close friend and constantly in touch with the person who experienced this event. His story has never waivered or changed a bit.

I met this man, who became a friend of mine, while working at record swapmeets while just a teenager, around 18 or 19 years old. This is around 1987 approx. I will refer to this person as Mr. X.
Mr. X lives in Los Angeles and is a fan of psychedelic music, and rock and roll. We used to sit at his house and listen to bootleg recordings of bands like Jimi Hendrix, the Doors, and Led Zeppelin, which we both collected feverishly. This is where our friendship developed. Mr. X would come to the record swapmeets and buy tapes from me, spending hundreds of dollars at a time. We both shared this interest in music and appreciated each other's drive and fascination of live music. Occasionally I would visit his house, where he had a wife and children and a professional job and life. I got to know his wife and kids and spent considerable time around them. We stayed friends till this day.

One day, while working his job as systems administrator for Kaiser Permanente Hospital, he told me about a problem occuring in his life. He had uncovered some mismanagement in the business and financial end of things and feared retaliation for exposing this to the higher ups. Sure enough he got fired from his job for this.

He was shopping for jobs and sending in his resume and he informed me he was applying for the position to head the Shriner's Hospital in Los Angeles.

Now I must back up for a moment. For years now I had been telling Mr. X all about the things I was researching like the New World Order, Secret Societies and UFO and their influence. Every time I would bring these matters up, there was a complete lack of interest on his part. For someone very spiritual, and philosophical minded, I found this to be strange, and so occasioanlly I would ask him, why don;t you have any interest in any of this material? His response would go something like "Josh, you are such an intelligent person, and you know how to think, and act, and you know a lot about life, why is it you waste your time with these kinds of matters? It is such a waste of time and of your mind", he would say. I would tell him about how all these things are influencing the world and our lives and he would just shrug it off.

I have lots of respect for my friends so I would not push it as I felt it making him uncomfortable as a topic of discussion. I would just drop it from there. But then one day, something happened that would change both our lives forever.

My friend, Mr. X told me he was applying for a job at the Shriner's Hospital. I told him he ought to put on his resume (the truth) that his Father and Grandfather were both high ranking Masons, (which they were), but told my friend nothing about their experiences, and this one fact made my friend a little suspicious and curious. After all, this was his family. His family helped start Hollywood. His family is BIG.

He wrote this on his application, and out of all applicants, he got the job. He was now on hi sway to running ther Shriner's Hospital of Los Angeles AT THE TOP. Systems Administrator for all computer systems in the place. He told me they would need to bring him up to speed and give him a "fast track" program to make him a 33 degree Mason so he would understand things about the Hospital and his work. Upon hearing this, I told him, "and you will tell me everything, right?" and of course he agreed and said "well, if there is anything going on, I will be sure to find out about it, and of course, I'll tell you all about it". After all, my friend is VERY Intelligent and wise.

Well, about 6 months went by, and then another few months. While this was happening, he told me "some strange stuff is going on, but I don;t know what it is yet", but there is obviously some real powerful people in the Masonic Lodges".

Then, one day while sitting and listening to music at his home, he says the following to me "I need to tell you something Josh".....I have to tell you about what has been going on because it's so strange that you're the only one who will even believe me".....I asked what he had to say. ....."I don't know how you did it, or how you get your information, but you are more informed that 99% of the Masons thta attend the Masonic Lodge meetings. You have more information about what is REALLY going on in the Masonic Lodges than guys who have been there for 30 years. I know people who are all thr way at the top that don't have a grasp on what is really going on like you do. It's like you have an "eye" into the Masonic Lodge that allows you to see what is going on inside, and I don;t know how you did this", ..."but anyway I have to tell you what I experienced".......you know how you are always talking about the Secret Societies controlling the governments and corporations?" and I answered "yes", and he continued "everything you said to me about what is going on, is EXACTLY what is going on in the world", ...."how you are always talkking about the Illuminati, Population Control, mind control, propaganda, fixing wars, and causing death
, etc. "....and I agreed with him.......and then he said "and you know how you are always talking about the Extraterrestrials controlling Secret Societies from behind the scenes......?"

This is when my stomach sank into my gut, and I said "oh no"........he said "oh yes"....I have to tell you about something that no one else would possibly believe....he proceeded....I was stunned....
He told me about how he was attending a veyr important meeting at a Masonic Lodge where he was to be introdiced to someone very important and powerful. Upon meeting this individual, he noticed the regard everyone paid to this individual...everyone seemed to have a certain type of respect for him, and regard for his power, to the point that it drew my friends attention to him. Upon shaking the person's hand, my friend was taken back my the extreme amount of strength thsi person had in his handshape grip. He says "I have shaken many people's hands in business in life for many years, and I have never experienced this type of energy, or strength. I paid particular attention to this individual throughout the evening. A little while later I noticed him taking to a lady and I started to notice some strange things occuring".....he went on to say...."the mans height had grown about 2 feet.......he had green scales all over him, he had grown a tail, that was extending behind him, his eyes had turned orange slit like, and a mane had grown down the back of his head and down his neck." ...I was shaking at this point because I know this person well, and this is NOT his behavior or in his character to tell me something like this, if he had not actually experienced it for real. He also told me this ..."I tried and tried to think about what it was I was seeing, and I could not come up with an explanation for myself, until all of the sidden I remembered what you had said about shape-shifting reptilians controlling secret societies, and I realized that what I was seeing was some kind of cloaking device, because obviously the lady talking to this person, could not see what I was seeing. She continued takking to him like he was a regular person, and I was witnessing a reptile human creature talking to her, it had to be a kind of cloaking mechanism of some sort"...........Shortly after this he lost his job there for uncovering fraud at the highest levels within the Shriners. He didn't know he wasn't supposed to uncover it. That was the job he was given, and then he was fired for doing his job. But, he now knows what is really going on in the world.


I have questioned him repeatedly about this incident. Especially since I have been researching this for years now, and it is the closest I have come to prooving this for myself. I swear this to be true and this to be a true account of something that really happened, not some made up incident to garner attention. This is real. This is known to have happened, so you can compare it to other stories, but it stands on it's own as my personal research.

If anyone has questions about this, I will do my best to answer serious questions. This is 100% True.

[Dig]

hahaha

thanks for that, things were getting a bit too tense with all the WWIII propoganda and the Pakistan test for US Martial Law.

[stymo1]

I was going to be civil about things and not troll his topic.

[freedomdomain]

hahaha

thanks for that, things were getting a bit too tense with all the WWIII propoganda and the Pakistan test for US Martial Law.

I know we have serious stuff going on as well, that are immediate concerns for everyone, however, there are issues that people fail to consider when thinking about the "hard stuff", like Pakistan and Iran, and everything else.

ETs are influencing things. Some of these things we have the ability to deal with, but others are beyond our control.
When you understand what is within your control, and what you ultimately wish to control around you, then you might appreciate that there are other factors involved, and you may or may not choose to participate in this game or that game.

If you fear death, and the body dying, and you don;t believe in the spirit or multiple incarnations, then the wars on earth will scare you and influnece you, and ultimately control you, while you try to control the world to stop it all. You will be caught up in control issues, and that is what the Reptilian agenda is really all about. Control!

When you realize that others have choice to be free to do as they wish, then you understand that your life is important to live, not somebody elses, and you start living for the immediate now, and who you are, instead of acting and reacting to everything around you like a puppet on a string.

I think it's important to remember this.

[lordssyndicate]

There are many things going on behind the scense most people will never believe  even when they see it face to face.

There is reasearch out there and I will merely say that if one has read the canonized books of the bible known as enoch and nohd. Yes, Nohd realy was part of genissis , in fact it was right smack dab in the middle before  God created eve. I actually have a copy of the latin version that dates to 1546 that actually contains both books and the books of timothy and mary. (Yes, mary had her own entire book [mary magdolin of course...].  But, thanks to games like Vampire the Masquerade; most people laugh if you mention the book of Nohd (Vampire the masquerade leaves off the h in Nohd in their version which is 90% fiction) and write it off as bull.

But it exists. No it does not speak of vampires or name them. Yes, there are demons describe in this book of the bible that could be considered such or resemble such but, they are all named as demons and have very specific names.

Yes, Nohd does also say that Adam had a first wife and yes, her name was lilith. But, this is about the only semblence of similarity between the real book of the bible and the fictionalized version written by White Wolf for their dang game.

However my point here is that there is one curious  chapter in Nohd that does describe a war between the children of Adam and Lilith and a race of beings (the latin translates litterally as race of lizard demons) that are reptillian.

Let me finish this by saying most Rabinical scholars who actually know of this book and have read it consider it to be mostly litterary allusion just as the rest of the book of Gennesis up till Noah.

But for those who want a good read / good humor, google Lecerta File.

With that said i bid you goodnight.

[Jackson Holly]

freedomdomai:

I've known about the work of JOHN ALLEGRO since The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross came out back in the '70s. I have also read several other of his books concerning the Scrolls as well as others dealing with the Mushroom ~ Rosy Cross. That Christianity is just another in a long line of vegetation/pagan cults has been long established - and makes a lot of sense, really - especially if you have ever done the mushroom! No argument there.

I've read almost all of David Icke's books, too. I have tons of respect for the guy - awesome research and insight in bringing a little TRUTH to the master/slave nature of our god~forsaken history.

The reptilian angle also makes a lot of sense - explains some of the mysteries about our cognitive existence and advanced brain. The whole notion of reptilian 'gods' coming to Earth at some point in the distant past and manipulating the DNA of existing primate species to create a slave race (us!) is also born out in extant sacred writings. I would also agree that it follows that these creatures are probably still much involved in human affairs - and that the aristocratic ROYALS believe that they are direct descendants of these 'gods'.

I know about the MK Ultra mind control stuff ~ about the extensive underground genetic black ops stuff ~ I've read Fritz Springmeier, etc ~ I'm well read in UFO literature and in crop circles and in cattle mutilations ~ and I have seen UFOs personally. So, I can't accept a world view that does not include the existence of multiple intelligent life-forms that have interacted with Earth, probably for aeons.

So, in short, you have found an open mind here.

I would like to share this poem I wrote a while back:




THINGS ARE NOT AS THEY SEEM

Things are not as they seem,
we are beings lost in a dream,
a scheme, a myth, a fiction
from once upon a time
long ago and far, far away.
Something is amiss in this world,
something important forgotten,
paradise lost, or stolen, or hidden.

This is not metaphorical.
Antediluvian creator gods
descended from heaven,
Annunaki Dragons of Eden,
to plunder, colonize, enslave.
And God said, “Let us make man
in our image, after our likeness.”
They conquered us by becoming us.

They manufactured Adama,
inquisitive godmonkey chimera,
genesis, genetics, gentiles.
“Sons of God saw the daughters of men
that they were fair, and they took
them wives of all which they chose ...
and they bore children to them.”
So was spawned the bluebloods.


“This matter is by the decree
of the watchers, demanded
by word of the holy ones:
... that the living may know
the Most High ruleth in the
kingdom of men, delivers it
to whomsoever he will, and
gives power to the basest of men.”

Nephilim demigod conjurers,
semen, semite, seminary.
Reptmalian night-stalkers rule
the sleepwalkers, sacrificial lambs.
“Their seed shall be known
among the gentiles ... all shall
acknowledge them, the seed
which the lord hath blessed.”

Things are not as they seem,
we are deer caught in a beam.
Shepherds and serpent kings,
the hovering guardian angels
suck the milk of the gentiles,
who have fulfilled their destiny
to supply the demands of god,
the temples, the castles, the blood.

This is not allegorical.
Post-diluvian hybrid offspring
organized this servile planet
with deceit and make-believe,
they diminished our intellect,
demolished our history,
left Earth dangling in space,
a damned man on the gallows.

My friend, my fellow Adama,
let us regain the stolen Paradise,
and reclaim earth’s garden,
we have tasted the fruit
of knowledge, we are as gods.
Look beyond the veil of maya,
draw back the flimsy curtain,
expose the lizard wizard.

God is not love, man is love.
God is a lie, a magician’s trick,
a device for divide and conquer,
the hidden sleight-of-hand
of the vampire brood.
We are amnesiacs, stacked
naked and pell-mell in
the slave ship of State.

[freedomdomain]

freedomdomai:

I've known about the work of JOHN ALLEGRO since The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross came out back in the '70s. I have also read several other of his books concerning the Scrolls as well as others dealing with the Mushroom ~ Rosy Cross. That Christianity is just another in a long line of vegetation/pagan cults has been long established - and makes a lot of sense, really - especially if you have ever done the mushroom! No argument there.

That's Excellent! I enjoyed it very much. Very thoughtful.

[Femacamper]

Wow...that must have been some acid trip, freedomdomain.

[freedomdomain]

Wow...that must have been some acid trip, freedomdomain.

Avoidance, and belittling.........

Wow! Your so sharp. Yeah, the whole thing was a hallucination...   Just like the people who claim they talk to God, and the people who claim they "know Jesus". If you don't want people to judge you for your hallucinations, then don;t try to point out what you percieve to be others...especially when someone tells you they are telling a true story.

That would be like you claiming your family member was ill and you needed to take time off from the forum, and I posted about how your family member was really a Mossad agent in Afghanistan, awaiting orders to kill the President......Right?  Do you see the similarity?

I said I was telling the truth, so it should be presumed it is the truth, not belittled like it's some fairy tale or joke. Do you want people to respond to your postings like that? How woul dyou feel. Femacamper? Whos friend are you anyway? Do you know anyone? and who would you treat with disrespect? Only people you don't know? Or anyone you can hide from? Or just people who think different than you?...and Where did you get your friendship skills from? Why are you seeking discourse and  confrontation? What are your motives?

[Cruise4]

Its anecdotal... and who in their right mind would believe in something 'apparently' far fetched without first hand personal experience.

That is not to say that such a thing is impossible. But do you really expect people to take Reptilians as a given with just the little evidence that exists in the Public Domain?

[freedomdomain]

okay, while i dont immediatly believe you and there is nothing that could prove it true lets give the benifit of the doubt and ask some questions.

the man who was a shapeshifter, what was his position within the lodge and society?

(He was a Grandmaster of some Lodge, possibly California, but i think it was nationwide. Not sure, but my friend did remark he was important withion Masonry)

your friend, whose family were masons, did he experiment with drugs like shrooms and acid? has there been reprecussions of his dealings with the lodge and these beings and people?

(My friend is very professional. How do you do those kind of things and function at the level he was dealing with, as the Manager of the Hospital of Kaiser and Syatems Admin at the Shriners? No he does not do drugs. Because Alex Jones listens to and plays Hendrix and the Doors and Zeppelin on his show, should I assume he is a drug user? // Yes, my friend has been harrassed, but not seriously. He was called on the phone once and asked to reveal information about the masons to someone he did not know. He told me about this, and we both presumed it was some ind of test. He did not divulge anything, of course.)

why do advanced beings capable of awesome technological feats need slaves? what is their agenda?

(My friend is not privy to knowledge about the beings, only to his personal experience. He was not included in the information and it was not exposed to him intentionally. My own research concludes that they use us for sustenance the same way we farm cattle. We need to keep them healthy to a degree, and alive, for our own purposes. The body design of humans was tampered wsith by them in order to contain our spirit more sucessfully, and it does not work no matter how advanced they are technologically. They are techno-based, but spiritually retarded, however, extremely intelligent, and telepathic as well. I can;t verify any of this, only to say Credo Mutwa, who David Icke interviewed in Africa has never been refuted as being an agent of somekind or imposter. He is as genuine as it gets and his story is the same as the line you hear from some researchers. // It's a broad speculation on some things of course, but we do have some things to go on that are as trustworthy as it get's without firsthand knowledge. I research everything and form my own conclusions. They seem ot like children and fresh unadultered meat. They also like fear and the adrenaline rush and hormones it causes to occur and run through the body. This is like a drug to them, apparently.)

why are you posting this on a forum that deals with provable facts and news/research instead of a forum like abovetopsecret.com that is more open to these ideas? 

(Because I research both fields, both the tangible and the spiritual. I have my whole life for about 18 years now, since around 1989. I take my research seriously, in that I do my best to find out the truth, without bias. i have changed my mind on things many times. I do not think that Reptilians are any less valid in research as the Iranian war or George Bush or the CIA or CointelPro or Drug Trafficking or JFK, or the Moon Landing, or Holograms and Mind Control and Population Control or anything else. I see how it all ties to gether and I don;t discriminate in my thinking or research or discussion.

I have been discussing National Security Memorandum 200 on my website since 1997. Thats 10 years ago. I have known about it since 1991 when I attended a Craig Hulet lecture in LA on George Bush, Skull and Bones and the secret government. I also studied Bill Cooper's works and Jordan Maxwell, and almost every known researcher out there in the whole of conspiracy literature. I am extremely well researched. If I stopped at one area, I would be lacking in my knowledge of what people are thinking, regardless of whether or not it's true. Then I would be limited in my mind and my awareness overall, so I always made it a point to find out EVERYTHING about what was going on in the world, regardless of whether or not I agreed, and sometimes my mind remained the same on a belief and sometimes it changed, and sometimes it took time and changed over time. But, the one thing I can look back on and say with certainty is that I looked at the material for myself, ALL OF IT.

I really don't care what others think, but I do believe that people need to look at all kinds of information, and I think there are people on thi sforum who appreciate this information. I don't limit the people on this site to a belief that they are closed minded, I have more hope for their intelligence overall, and curiousity. I think some of them enjoy alternative info, like me, and not everyone is like you, or thinks like you do. Soem people DO see the tie-in between Reptilians, and Extraterrestrials and the Population Control, Mind Control, Child Sacrifice, death, disease, and starvation and suffering in the world.....and they should be given a chance to hera all sides of the story, that's all. Therew are intelligent people here, and I respect their opinion, and want to hear what they have to say and what they think about these issues as well as "tangible" ones.

what links would you like to share with people here? 

I really Like Trufax.org -- I haev been visiting them for years, and susbscribing to their Leading Edge Journal since I got out of High School and started my research. Their first two books, Matrix 1 and 2 dealt with ET only. Their Matrix 3 dealt with all the various forms of Human control and manipulation known at the time. And theri most recent endeavor Matrix V ties everything in together in a really interesting and powerful way. It is very spiritual based, and includes info on all kinds of events happening right now, and how it all fits in together. Very Enlightening!

[freedomdomain]

Its anecdotal... and who in their right mind would believe in something 'apparently' far fetched without first hand personal experience.

That is not to say that such a thing is impossible. But do you really expect people to take Reptilians as a given with just the little evidence that exists in the Public Domain?

No, that is the difference between me and some people here. I don't expect anyone to believe anything. I have been an activist for 18 years now. I don't fall for that game anymore. I gave that up long ago.

People believe what they want to believe. It's pretty simple. You cannot change someone's mind who does not want to change it themselves, and if they do, then likely they are already involved in finding out what you want them to know about, and telling them about it is only a sharing conversatiion, not a attempt to convince with  argument.

[Maverick87]

Interesting story, freedomdomain. I'm doing a lot of research on things, beside the NWO, even though I think its all connected and it makes a lot of sense.

What do you personally think about the coming of the planet Nibiru in the next years and the whole Annunaki/Nephelim stuff?

[Femacamper]

If you want to post about how you saw aliens, reptoids, Elvis, bigfoot, and Hitler's clone, there's lots of forums available at ConCen.

But who on this forum takes this guy seriously?

[Jackson Holly]

Femacamper:

There IS so much dis-info, deceit and make-believe out~there that it is hard to get a grip on where the heck we are right now. But, the UFO connection is heating up - did nobody notice that Dennis Kucinich came out of the closet this week? And former Arizona Gov Symington recently? He was on Larry King last night I believe, but I didn't see it. Here are a couple URLs about a big press conference on Monday. And a link to a site that has tons of de-classified UFO-related documents - if you are interested:

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/?p=1771

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/11/09/simington.ufocommentary/index.html

http://www.majesticdocuments.com/

There may come a time in the near future when we look back on the good ol' days when we could still believe in comforting Earth-bound myths of eternal life in the great beyond.

[Femacamper]

Thanks for the links.

I appreciate the more serious discussion of this topic.

What do you think about the possibility of this being a Snake God op for a fake alien invasion as a preface to establish a global government?

[Jackson Holly]

Femacamper:

I saw two objects fly over my house, mid day, here in Albuquerque three years ago next January. (NewMex, as you know, has always been a hotbed of UFO reports, etc - going back to 1940s/Ground Zero/Roswell/Los Alamos/Sandia Labs, etc). They were not 'airplanes' - no wings, no sound. They 'glided' as with no effort - and were in perfect formation - only about 1000 feet high - they were 'shell crab' or nearly 'tear-drop' in shape - brown in color - and were low enough that I got a good look at the underside as they flew directly overhead.

If not for this sighting I would myself be VERY skeptical of the whole business. I have seen unknown objects/lights at a far distance two or three other times, but have always been able to dismiss those as swamp gas!

If the elite shadow people have this technology, they must have had it for at least six decades - and that is hard to comprehend. It seems to involve anti-gravity / cloaking / shape-shifting /nano~tech, etc. But, the NWO may have seized on the WAR OF THE WORLDS scenario to scare the be-jevers out of us, to further the agenda - whether or not they are involved - this dumb-*ss terroist crap surely can't take them much further!

You may not be aware of this story, linked/imaged here. Bizarre to the max. Objects like this have been photographed three or four times around the country. It is impossible - but seemingly real - did I just say that??



http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1265&category=Environment

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

[Femacamper]

Well, as I have stated earlier, I believe in UFOs as so many people have spotted them (and in large numbers) including myself.

But I don't believe in aliens. I think that hyper-technology is available now to the elites that would allow them to "beta-test" such machinery in the guise of an alien spacecraft.

We already have seen hoverdrones, tiny flying machines, cyborg dragonflies, invisible tanks, and force fields come out in mainstream news, including my local paper. What makes you think it's any more than that?

When given two choices, take the more realistic and simplest approach (Occam's razor).

[Quasar]

Whatever ya'll are smoking, I wa :ont some.

[Dig]

Reptillians in High level cults...

They are used as another form of deceit, WTF?

This was discussed thoroughly in Pentagon Aliens, and by Kathy O'Brien.

That is the upper, upper eschelon of deceit.  They even got the former secretary of defense from UK with it.  Hitler did it regularly (as did NWO for over 3,000 years).

The first assassins were children who were drgged and then deceived to be in heaven when they were just awakening from a drug induced slumber.

Read Mauri's chronicles.  Many past sex slaves, MK Ultra children have come forward about it.

It is another in a long line of Bull Shit meant to control and enslave.

If there were a superior race among us, then why do they only show up in these elite ceremonies?

Because it is a big f**king scam!

The scam is pretty well revealed in Rosemary's baby with the fake demon.  They actually do this shit with fake demons to scare the shit out of people and keep them from talking.  who the f**k would say they were raped by a demon?  Just more deceit to keep our mind confused, perplexed, and unable to realize that Rockefeller (master of  mind f**king the American people)/Rothschild (their fortune was founded on manipulating truth)/Beatrice (Nazi, through and through) raping our children, stealing our land, and enslaving the next 10 generations.

The lizards are like the gargoyles on castle walls...fake demons used to protect elites that live in the castles.

Do not sway, do not falter, they are just as real as jet fuel imploding bildings in 10 seconds!

[Jackson Holly]

Femacamper:

You are exactly correct to ask that question "why aliens?" - it's gotta be one -or- the other it seems to me. As you know, plenty of whistle blowers from the industry report (see documents @ majesticdocuments.com) that those recent 'miracles' ("... hoverdrones, tiny flying machines, cyborg dragonflies, invisible tanks, and force fields ...") and more have been back-engineered from downed alien craft.

It's only when you review the startling UFO literature from mid-'40s to present are you overwhelmed with the notion that it has to be 'something else' than 20th C tech. In fact, there are reports from the 1800s (and older) the descriptions of which sound exactly like those today.

Why is it that you haven't made the mental leap that other intelligent species exist?


SANE:

Good points as always. In this case I have to say I hope you are right! Just more smoke and mirrors ... we are obviously NOT ready to deal with ... ? ? ?

[Femacamper]

On the other hand, look at Tesla's work. He was a human genius, and look what he produced. Technology that we can't even still replicate or utilize fully to this day.

The day I believe in aliens is the day one walks up to me, shakes my hand and gives me twenty bucks.

Until then I will put it into the "unproven category" or "distraction / false-flag category."

[freedomdomain]

Reptillians in High level cults...

They are used as another form of deceit, WTF?

This was discussed thoroughly in Pentagon Aliens, and by Kathy O'Brien.

That is the upper, upper eschelon of deceit.  They even got the former secretary of defense from UK with it.  Hitler did it regularly (as did NWO for over 3,000 years).

The first assassins were children who were drgged and then deceived to be in heaven when they were just awakening from a drug induced slumber.

Read Mauri's chronicles.  Many past sex slaves, MK Ultra children have come forward about it.

It is another in a long line of Bull Shit meant to control and enslave.

If there were a superior race among us, then why do they only show up in these elite ceremonies?

Because it is a big f**king scam!

The scam is pretty well revealed in Rosemary's baby with the fake demon.  They actually do this shit with fake demons to scare the shit out of people and keep them from talking.  who the f**k would say they were raped by a demon?  Just more deceit to keep our mind confused, perplexed, and unable to realize that Rockefeller (master of  mind f**king the American people)/Rothschild (their fortune was founded on manipulating truth)/Beatrice (Nazi, through and through) raping our children, stealing our land, and enslaving the next 10 generations.

The lizards are like the gargoyles on castle walls...fake demons used to protect elites that live in the castles.

Do not sway, do not falter, they are just as real as jet fuel imploding bildings in 10 seconds!

Sane, I propose that you talk a lot of crap, and know very little yourself, personally.
You talk like an authority of some kind, when you have done ZERO research on your own. I can tell this is true by your statements and lack of backing. You quote sources, but not what they say.

I have met William Lyne, author of Space Aliens from the Pentagon. I spent 2 days visiting him, and I videotaped him for 4 hours. I know the guy personally. I have a signed 1st and 2nd and 3rd edition of his book. I held the German Flying Saucer compass detailed in his book. I know my shit, excuse me.

Mr. Lyne is not completely correct, and Cathy O Brian is being misquoted by you. Mr Lyne does not believe in spirit at all. He believes that everything is government controlled, however, it is not. The government creates MANY levels of lies to control. They have created artificial life forms that resemble real aliens, and use these to do abductions. Thye have craft that mimic real alien craft, and use them to fly around and do genetic experiments, HOWEVER, this DOES NOT negate the fact of the existence of ETs. That is what the purpose of their programs are. To make the people believe that ultimately, the government is behind everything, and there are no such thing as real ETs. It works like a charm on the unsuspecting population of researchers who have closed minds, and refuse to believe anything they can;t see or experience themselves. It's all relegated to "government craft and government experiements".

   Cathy O Brian was quoted as saying that they told her they were from another planet and they were controlling the human race...she speculated that they were using this as mind control on people. However, Arizona Wilder, also a victim of the same mind control program, actually witnessed flesh and baby eating sacrifices and witnessed the higher ups transform into shapeshifting reptiles as they ate and feasted on human flesh. She is adament about their existence and the reality behind it. Cathy O Brian was not privy to the same sacrifices and rituals or was not conscious of it all. Arizona Wilder was being trained to be the Supreme Mother Goddess for their religion and worship rituals.

Programming people to have recollections of alien abductions also serves the elite controllers and alien agenda, because this adds to the confusion for researchers when they come across this kind of data. All I can say about this, is to be vigilent in your research, and not settle for any "story" that claims to dispel myths about UFOs or aliens. There is mind control and manipulation everywhere.

I don't think Greer is completely correct either. The disclosure project does not get into Reptilians at all. Their position is all aliens are peaceful and benevolent and I don't agree with that at all. Although they are doing good research for the people who don't believe any of this.

Next time you talk about someone Sane, be sure to spell their name correctly. It leaves your research skills in question. It's Cathy, not Kathy. Look it up!

[Dig]

Why is it that you haven't made the mental leap that other intelligent species exist?

I would say the chances that oter intelligent life exists in the universe are high. I would add that the possibility of another life form who exists which has two legs, two eyes, carbon based, oxygen requiring, and other so called traits is nearly impossible.  The chances rank up there with the probablility that 7/7 occured on the same day/time as similar dills happening without any cooperation between the two officially coincidental occurances.  Actually the probability of the "similar trait" aliens existing in the universe is closer to the 7/7 "coincidence" divided by a teta gillion.  Almost universally impossible.

Again as far as UFO's over 100 sources have come forward to show that these occurances are deceptions (rockefeller admitted to it for god's sake) to f**k with the citizens of this country.  Kathy O'Brien goes into great detail about how they used the stalth bomber over 30 years ago to trick her into believing in UFO's.  Hitler was fanatical about doing this in the 30's and he got the technology and the deception techniques from Rockefeller and Rothschild who knew of this shit earlier.

Wake up people, the only thing you have to fear is the enslavement of the next 10 generations of Citizens by Rockefeller/Rothschild/Beatrice, not by little green footballs.

[Femacamper]

freedomdomain, I'm calling bullshit on your story.

Prove to me that Mr. reptilian is who you say he is.

Go take a cell phone camera and take a video of him turning into a reptilian.

Post the video on YouTube and send us the link.

Put up or shut up.

[Dig]

Sane, I propose that you talk a lot of crap, and know very little yourself, personally.
You talk like an authority of some kind, when you have done ZERO research on your own. I can tell this is true by your statements and lack of backing. You quote sources, but not what they say.

I have met William Lyne, author of Space Aliens from the Pentagon. I spent 2 days visiting him, and I videotaped him for 4 hours. I know the guy personally. I have a signed 1st and 2nd and 3rd edition of his book. I held the German Flying Saucer compass detailed in his book. I know my shit, excuse me.

Mr. Lyne is not completely correct, and Cathy O Brian is being misquoted by you. Mr Lyne does not believe in spirit at all. He believes that everything is government controlled, however, it is not. The government creates MANY levels of lies to control. They have created artificial life forms that resemble real aliens, and use these to do abductions. Thye have craft that mimic real alien craft, and use them to fly around and do genetic experiments, HOWEVER, this DOES NOT negate the fact of the existence of ETs. That is what the purpose of their programs are. To make the people believe that ultimately, the government is behind everything, and there are no such thing as real ETs. It works like a charm on the unsuspecting population of researchers who have closed minds, and refuse to believe anything they can;t see or experience themselves. It's all relegated to "government craft and government experiements".

   Cathy O Brian was quoted as saying that they told her they were from another planet and they were controlling the human race...she speculated that they were using this as mind control on people. However, Arizona Wilder, also a victim of the same mind control program, actually witnessed flesh and baby eating sacrifices and witnessed the higher ups transform into shapeshifting reptiles as they ate and feasted on human flesh. She is adament about their existence and the reality behind it. Cathy O Brian was not privy to the same sacrifices and rituals or was not conscious of it all. Arizona Wilder was being trained to be the Supreme Mother Goddess for their religion and worship rituals.

Programming people to have recollections of alien abductions also serves the elite controllers and alien agenda, because this adds to the confusion for researchers when they come across this kind of data. All I can say about this, is to be vigilent in your research, and not settle for any "story" that claims to dispel myths about UFOs or aliens. There is mind control and manipulation everywhere.

I don't think Greer is completely correct either. The disclosure project does not get into Reptilians at all. Their position is all aliens are peaceful and benevolent and I don't agree with that at all. Although they are doing good research for the people who don't believe any of this.

Next time you talk about someone Sane, be sure to spell their name correctly. It leaves your research skills in question. It's Cathy, not Kathy. Look it up!

awww are you upset that i misspelled a name and using it as some formal evidence that i am wrong?

wow, nothing you have said disputes anything i have said.

you are now attacking me personally, dude, just say uncle and give up.

step back and look at it logically...

just like 9/11 it makes no sense

if they are so powerful why not expose themselves as the superior race they are?

why only come out in the most secretive of cultish mumbo jumbo bullshit when evone is already under a communal mind control to accept whatever occurs?

what about mauri, genius, what is your all knowing all seeing eye say about her?

[citizenguy]

freedomdomain, can you produce any physical evidence?

did you take a photograph of some reptilian toenail clippings?
do the reptilians shed skin?
do you have a dna sample of a reptilian?

[Dig]

freedomdomain, can you produce any physical evidence?

did you take a photograph of some reptilian toenail clippings?
do the reptilians shed skin?
do you have a dna sample of a reptilian?

bwhahaha

awesome!

I want some reptitlian skin sheddings for my wall!

the dna would be awesome to sprinkle around crime scenes.  that should keep the fuzz busy for a while.

[mookie]

I think there are a lot of crazy people in the world.

It seems that as soon as someone posts something to this forum they get labeled.

Post something about lizards - you're a disinfo agent - or you're enlightened. Depends on where the reader is on the topic.

Post something short and funny - you're a troll - or you're just funny. Depends on where the reader is on the topic.

Here is a little bit of reality. Not everything is a conspiracy. Not everyone who doesn't agree with your favorite cause is a disinfo agent. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

[Dig]

I think there are a lot of crazy people in the world.

It seems that as soon as someone posts something to this forum they get labeled.

Post something about lizards - you're a disinfo agent - or you're enlightened. Depends on where the reader is on the topic.

Post something short and funny - you're a troll - or you're just funny. Depends on where the reader is on the topic.

Here is a little bit of reality. Not everything is a conspiracy. Not everyone who doesn't agree with your favorite cause is a disinfo agent. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

spoken like a true troll.

anyway, lizards are trolling on this forum.  if you want to talk about lizards go someplace else.  wtf?  this is not a lizard board, this forum has nothing to do with lizards except uncover all of the disinfo tactics NWO uses (including lizards) to disrupt true conspiracies.

if we believed in lizards then we would think that everything is a conspiracy (nice doublespeak dude).

mookie don't be a dookie

[Femacamper]

Also it's really easy to pick out the trolls. They usually have very few posts (mostly whining and bickering), and they get very upset or emotional when anyone moves the thread in a direction they weren't intending.

[citizenguy]

freedomdomain, do you think this child is secretly a reptilian?

http://www.daisyseyecancerfund.org/eyeclinic/eye/photography.html

"Flash photography can cause the eye to appear red.  Although some people prefer to take photographs with a camera that has “red eye reduction”, checking for a red eye in photography is actually an important way to determine if the eye is healthy.

The retina is full of blood vessels which nourish the eye.  When you take a photograph with a flash, the flash light expands the pupil, allowing the camera to pick up the red glow of the retina."

freedomdomain, are you going to go against opthalmologists?

[chilicharger665]

I've seen an UFO. Too bad UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. I didn't know what it was, it was flying, and it was an object. Too bad the reptiles didn't come down and take me awaaaaaaay............

Sane, please ban the troll. He's started a ridiculous amount of topics on this same subject.

[lordssyndicate]

There is much evidence that there is some kind of extra terrestrial activity  that has occured throught history.

I will cite the book of Enoch which litterally states that being from other planets/ dimensions have come here and mated with humans(most likely a litterary allusion to genetic engineering).

However, there is also alot of evidence that the Nazis and our own government have also faked alien contact to scare people.

With that said it is nearly impossible for the average person to discern the two.

It is much more sensible to apply occam's razor and surmise that at least 90% of the UFO sitings we see today are some kind of government black op

Having read  and researched this subject quite a good bit and having friends in very key positions in government  computer administration - I've read real government documents that do discuss the fact the Nazis, Russians, and US government have been contacted by several diffferent ET species over the past 100 years.

However many of these documents also state these species have strict non-interference laws within their societies - kinda like the star trek prime directive. With that said it is most probable that most public sitings of reptilian beings and such are mind control induced hallucinations or hypnotism, or even holographic projections. It's very very easy to create a polarized hologram that can only be seen from specific angles. Hence creating the illusion that a particular person is not "human."
In fact the way your friend describes the way he this reptile "was revealed " to him fits the logistics one would exprience while viewing a polarized hologram to a T.  Heck even you or I can build a relatively small polarizing holographic projector if we had the finances to do such - there are even courses at schools like MIT that build these things as student projects regularly http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Media-Arts-and-Sciences/MAS-450Holographic-ImagingSpring2003/Projects/ .


The Elite will stop at nothing to get their way and  it is most likely they are utilizing existing supressed technology to scare most of us into believing we are under an alien assualt.

However, this should not be taken lightly. After all a staged event simmilar to the movie Independance Day would give them exactly the event they need to take complete control very quickly.

With that said, I feel it is of the uttmost importance that people do study ET sitings in order to discern the Elite's modis of operendi. Because when the going gets tough for these psychotic individuals - because freedome fighters like Alex and the rest of us are making a real difference - they will most likely stage an alien invasion.

They have stated they have plans for it as Sane and others have mentioned within this post.

Do not be fooled and do not abide any of their false  flag ops . Especially if they apear to be E.T. related.

[Dig]

Once we reinstate the constitution, rid NASA and Area 51 of all deceptive Nazi's from paperclip, we can take a look at actual evidence.  But before we do that the lowest common denominator definitely points to deception.  Let us enforce the constitution and the rule of law then these inquiries will have 99% less chance of being manipulated by lies.

[lordssyndicate]

Well put Sane. Well put.

[bmga1776]

Other than Alex Jones making comments about Reptoids, this is the first time I have ever seen anyone give serious thought to ETs.

First, if these beings have intersteller travel, then our technology is laughable to them, what could we produce that would give them the reason for being slaves to them.  Oh, I know, they need the coal from the earth to power their intersteller warp drives.  Or we mine naquadah for them, Oh, sorry, I got confused that is for the Goa'uld from startgate.

We are slaves to them.  LOL.  What for?  If they have that kind of power, why let man advance in technology at all. 
There are so many holes in this alien theory to me it is supremely ridiculous.

[Dig]

perhaps sane, what is needed is a list of goals for this forum? rules more like.

like:to expose the nwo, to expose 9/11, to expose ...police state, nafta, dollar collapse. etc.

i dont think unprovable things should make the list, like religious arguement or aliens or hollow earth or moonbases or anything other than straight/easy to check fact. it puts the mainstream in 'theres a tin hat' mode. they should be told to go elsewhere, or give them a sub board. 'tinhat forum'.

one fight at a time. deathto the nwo elites agenda first then the rest okay?

dude, our mission statement, a few hours listening to AJ, reading a few pp articles, and common sense should make any such rules redundant.

[Dig]

Other than Alex Jones making comments about Reptoids, this is the first time I have ever seen anyone give serious thought to ETs.

First, if these beings have intersteller travel, then our technology is laughable to them, what could we produce that would give them the reason for being slaves to them.  Oh, I know, they need the coal from the earth to power their intersteller warp drives.  Or we mine naquadah for them, Oh, sorry, I got confused that is for the Goa'uld from startgate.

We are slaves to them.  LOL.  What for?  If they have that kind of power, why let man advance in technology at all. 
There are so many holes in this alien theory to me it is supremely ridiculous.

yeah makes you realize how influential the Fuller Spectrum of Bullshit really is.

WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER PEOPLE

THE CRIMINAL ELITE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED

STOP BEING DISTRACTED BY NONSENSE WHEN LOGIC IS STARING YOU IN THE FACE

[mickswann]

This sort of thing is just disinfo.
Why is it so hard to believe, with reams of evidence, that a cabal of corporatists and international bankers controls the world by exerting an undue influence on governments and policy?
We know that Rockerfeller's Standard Oil took over the US in the early years of the 20th century and consolidated that grip by setting up the Fed and the Jekyll Island club. Britain was taken a lot earlier, in 1815, by the Rothschilds.
It was Rockerfeller who started the ball rolling on the NWO.
All this is documented. All this is fact. It is supported by evidence.

Why, then, go and spoil a good solid story by saying that they are doing it because they are reptiles, aliens , satanists or some other such nonsense.

The real story is that 'democracy' is in it's death throes, we are all living in surveillance obsessed, corporatist, crypto-fascist countries where the law serves only those wealthy enough to buy a voice.
Isn't that bad enough?

The whole reptile/satanic abuse disinfo show only serves to make the truth movement look like a bunch of psychos, what's wrong with being just a tad more sceptical about all of this information? Remember 'September Lies', followed by Shayler going off the deep-end and announcing that there were no planes and that the towers fell after being hit by cruise missiles disguised with holograms?

Any piece of information should always be verified before being disseminated to others, otherwise we would be knee-deep in the pet-theories of the deranged.

Mick

PS. And yes, I am actually a secret agent of the satanic lizards, before someone suggests it.