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« on: October 11, 2009, 03:26:34 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jrh8VVwMI4

Explained by the best of the best, TheAmazingAtheist.

Watch the video before you make an opinionated comment.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2009, 03:33:05 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2009, 03:35:03 PM »

homo

Yea, I would agree, he is a modern human.

Homo is the genus that includes modern humans and their close relatives.

Also, he does have a girlfriend.

I theorize that you didn't watch the video, either, since you posted a very unintellectual comment.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2009, 03:39:08 PM »

Sodom and Gomorrah


The biblical text

Sodom was one of a group of five towns, the Pentapolis (Wisdom 10:6): Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboim, and Bela—also called Zoar (Genesis 19:22). The Pentapolis region is also collectively referred to as "the Cities of the Plain" (Genesis 13:12) since they were all sited on the plain of the River Jordan, in an area that constituted the southern limit of the lands of the Canaanites (Genesis 10:19). Lot, a nephew of Abram (Abraham) chose to live in Sodom, because of the proximity of good grazing for his flocks (Genesis 13:5-11).

In Genesis 18, God sends two angels, appearing as men, to Abraham in the plains of Mamre. After receiving the hospitality of Abraham and Sarah, his wife, God reveals to Abraham that he will investigate Sodom and Gomorrah, because their cry is great, "and because their sin is very grievous." (vs. 20-21) In response, Abraham reverently inquires of God if he would spare the city if 50 righteous people were found in it, then 45, then 30, then 20, or even ten, with God affirming he would not destroy it after each request, for the sake of the righteous yet dwelling therein. The two angels of God proceed to Sodom and are met by Abraham's righteous nephew Lot, who constrains the angels to lodge with him, and they eat with his family.

In the Tanach version, Genesis19:4-5, describes what followed, which confirms the verdict as to the sin of Sodom and its end:

    When they had not yet retired, and the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old from every end of the city. And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, and let us know them."

In response, Lot refuses to give his guests to the inhabitants of Sodom, and instead offers them his two unmarried daughters, "who have not known man", to do with as they please. However, they refuse this offer, and threaten to do worse to Lot than they would have done to his guests, and press sore upon him. Lot's angelic guests rescue him, and strike the men with blindness. They then command Lot to gather his family and leave, revealing that they were sent to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. As they make their escape the angels command Lot and his family not to look back under any circumstance. However as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with fire and brimstone by God, Lot's wife looks back longingly at the city, and becomes a pillar of salt.
[edit] Additional Bible references

The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are mentioned in other places, in association with sins of omission and commission, and of the heart as well as the flesh, and is often used as an example of judgment of the wicked.

In Ezekiel 16:48-50 God compares Jerusalem to Sodom, saying "Sodom never did what you and your daughters have done." He explains that the sin of Sodom was that "She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me." God then sent an angel to rain hell fire and brimstone down on Sodom and Gomorrah.

Isaiah 3:9, associates Sodom with shameless sinning.

Jeremiah 23:14 associates Sodom and Gomorrah with adultery and lies.

Mark 6:11-12(cf. Mt. 11:20-24; Lk. 10:1-12), Jesus declares certain cities more damnable than Sodom and Gomorrah, due to their response to Jesus' disciples, in the light of greater grace.

Luke 17:28-29, uses Sodom as an example of indifference; careless living.

2Peter 2:6-7, (KJV) also references Lot,

    "And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked."

Jude 1:7, records that both Sodom and Gomorrah were "giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
[edit] Controversy
Main article: The Bible and homosexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah#The_biblical_text
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2009, 03:41:04 PM »

Sodom and Gomorrah


The biblical text

Sodom was one of a group of five towns, the Pentapolis (Wisdom 10:6): Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboim, and Bela—also called Zoar (Genesis 19:22). The Pentapolis region is also collectively referred to as "the Cities of the Plain" (Genesis 13:12) since they were all sited on the plain of the River Jordan, in an area that constituted the southern limit of the lands of the Canaanites (Genesis 10:19). Lot, a nephew of Abram (Abraham) chose to live in Sodom, because of the proximity of good grazing for his flocks (Genesis 13:5-11).

In Genesis 18, God sends two angels, appearing as men, to Abraham in the plains of Mamre. After receiving the hospitality of Abraham and Sarah, his wife, God reveals to Abraham that he will investigate Sodom and Gomorrah, because their cry is great, "and because their sin is very grievous." (vs. 20-21) In response, Abraham reverently inquires of God if he would spare the city if 50 righteous people were found in it, then 45, then 30, then 20, or even ten, with God affirming he would not destroy it after each request, for the sake of the righteous yet dwelling therein. The two angels of God proceed to Sodom and are met by Abraham's righteous nephew Lot, who constrains the angels to lodge with him, and they eat with his family.

In the Tanach version, Genesis19:4-5, describes what followed, which confirms the verdict as to the sin of Sodom and its end:

    When they had not yet retired, and the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old from every end of the city. And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, and let us know them."

In response, Lot refuses to give his guests to the inhabitants of Sodom, and instead offers them his two unmarried daughters, "who have not known man", to do with as they please. However, they refuse this offer, and threaten to do worse to Lot than they would have done to his guests, and press sore upon him. Lot's angelic guests rescue him, and strike the men with blindness. They then command Lot to gather his family and leave, revealing that they were sent to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. As they make their escape the angels command Lot and his family not to look back under any circumstance. However as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with fire and brimstone by God, Lot's wife looks back longingly at the city, and becomes a pillar of salt.
[edit] Additional Bible references

The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are mentioned in other places, in association with sins of omission and commission, and of the heart as well as the flesh, and is often used as an example of judgment of the wicked.

In Ezekiel 16:48-50 God compares Jerusalem to Sodom, saying "Sodom never did what you and your daughters have done." He explains that the sin of Sodom was that "She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me." God then sent an angel to rain hell fire and brimstone down on Sodom and Gomorrah.

Isaiah 3:9, associates Sodom with shameless sinning.

Jeremiah 23:14 associates Sodom and Gomorrah with adultery and lies.

Mark 6:11-12(cf. Mt. 11:20-24; Lk. 10:1-12), Jesus declares certain cities more damnable than Sodom and Gomorrah, due to their response to Jesus' disciples, in the light of greater grace.

Luke 17:28-29, uses Sodom as an example of indifference; careless living.

2Peter 2:6-7, (KJV) also references Lot,

    "And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked."

Jude 1:7, records that both Sodom and Gomorrah were "giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
[edit] Controversy
Main article: The Bible and homosexuality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah#The_biblical_text

Oh, the Biblical text the last ditch effort of someone with no alternative answers, I assume you didn't watch the video, either.

I've never been one to believe in the supernatural realm.

Also, Wikipedia, not a very viable source of information.

Of course, assuming it's word for word from the Bible, and the Bible is word for word of the original texts, it's completely invalid, and the Bible or the scriptures have no ground to back themselves up, people just assume it came from God or is divinely inspired, well, I could write a book to, and claim it was the word of God, and that all others were false, like Christianity does with other religions, seems kind of arrogant to me, to assume your religious book is the correct one, when I could just say the same, and the Bible is idealistic views from men of the time, which was like centuries ago, and, reality check, the Old Testament was for the Israelites, not the 21st century world, even the New Testament is showing it's age.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2009, 03:56:18 PM »

Oh, the Biblical text the last ditch effort of someone with no alternative answers, I assume you didn't watch the video, either.

I've never been one to believe in the supernatural realm.

Yes I watched the video, all of it. What is natural? To have sex with another man and call it natural and after that to call normal natural people homophobic, sic in some way cuz they see sexual deviant people as they are. Perverted and reversed psychology!
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2009, 03:56:21 PM »

I didn't watch the video cause my ^$%$&$ MAC is f**ked up again but I personally think it's natural based on what I know.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2009, 03:57:39 PM »

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=113710.0
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 03:58:24 PM »

Personally, I always thought that the argument pointing to animals included humans.  Humans being animals themselves.  It wasn't, in my mind: "look, penguins can be gay.  Therefore Humans aren't animals."  But rather: "look, penguins can be gay, so can humans."

It's therefore perfectly natural.

The video did remind me though, of something that always amazed me a bit, that is Christians, or most any other follower of monotheistic religions, making the argument that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."  By that logic, the omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent God of (most) monotheistic religions would therefore be the most evil and corrupt being in all eternity.

Arguing that "unnatural" or "not normal" is inherently "evil" yet God who is supernatural (which is basically the same thing) is the epitome of "good" is a hypocrisy I hadn't caught on to previously.  Though it also doesn't come up with most of the people I converse with.

That is, ultimately as the video poster pointed out, not an argument either way as to whether or not homosexuality is moral or immoral.


The people of Sodom, demanding to seduce/rape the guests of another person, were certainly wicked and twisted.  I don't know that I'd call Lot (who offered up his daughters instead telling them to go away) "just" but none the less... However, even that does not inherently speak to whether or not homosexuality, in general, is moral or immoral (though other parts of the Bible cover the issue as well).  All it really does is speak to the origin of the word "sodomize."

Yes I watched the video, all of it. What is natural? To have sex with another man and call it natural and after that to call normal natural people homophobic, sic in some way cuz they see sexual deviant people as they are. Perverted and reversed psychology!

He's calling it natural, yes, but he's not calling all non-homosexuals homophobic.  Also, by his own argument, homophobia is natural.

To be honest, I don't quite understand the part in bold.  I was wondering if you could elaborate.
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2009, 04:00:51 PM »

Yes I watched the video, all of it. What is natural? To have sex with another man and call it natural and after that to call normal natural people homophobic, sic in some way cuz they see sexual deviant people as they are. Perverted and reversed psychology!

Why does it gotta always be a man, why not a women with a women?

Also, homophobic means you are afraid of homosexuals, as with all phobia's, so are you afraid of homosexuals, or do you just not agree with it?

Also, I don't think I am perverted, I have seen some perverted stuff, but not as bad as the attraction of someone to the same sex.

I have seen people go in for "psychology" to cure themselves, and face it, it doesn't work, I am sorry you can't accept some people aren't attracted to the opposite sex, I mean if you really think about it, it's dumb, you are getting in a uproar over someone else's life, that has no affect on yours, at all, the only affect it has is the one you allow it to have.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2009, 04:01:55 PM »


Doesn't really have nothing to do with the topic, the topic is about homosexuality, not TAA himself.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2009, 04:04:24 PM »

Doesn't really have nothing to do with the topic, the topic is about homosexuality, not TAA himself.
He's a homo.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2009, 04:05:03 PM »

He's a homo.

Yes, he is a modern human, and he has a girlfriend, genius.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2009, 04:13:34 PM »

So "modern human" now means to be a fag? God, how terribly we have fallen...

Yup, it is natural to be a fag, and you are sic (homophobic) if you are not natural fag. LMAO! Classical perverted and reversed psychology.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2009, 04:18:27 PM »

So "modern human" now means to be a fag? God, how terribly we have fallen...

Homo means "modern human" and fag means

- Fag, a British colloquialism for cigarette
- Fag, a junior boy who acts or acted as servant ("fagging") to a senior boy at a British independent school
- Fag, or Faggot (slang), a slur for a homosexual or effeminate man.

Also, I like how you change the comment I originally made.
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2009, 04:18:45 PM »

Why cant you idiots realise that Homosexuality is pushed by the eugenicists because what better form of population control than homos? God destroyed sodom and gomorrah because of their homosexuality. Homosexuality is indeed unnatural and those evildoers will be executed by god when the time comes.
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2009, 04:20:56 PM »

I strongly believe that if you convert to christ with all your heart not just with your lips he will change you clence you and the best thing make you new creature what has happened in the past stays in the past I have seen people changed being gay to getting married and making a real life I cant blame a gay person cause he either was raised confused or spoil but changes can be made thats my belief respectful to what you believe its your choice its your life but I see it wrong in my part
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2009, 04:21:46 PM »

Why cant you idiots realise that Homosexuality is pushed by the eugenicists because what better form of population control than homos? God destroyed sodom and gomorrah because of their homosexuality. Homosexuality is indeed unnatural and those evildoers will be executed by god when the time comes.

Hi, I am a homosexual, and very much against eugenics and the NWO.

Their is no proof that God destroyed the cities, unless you want to use the Bible and/or religious books as your only sources.

lol, you keep believing that, let a supernatural unseen being control your life.
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2009, 04:26:47 PM »

I strongly believe that if you convert to christ with all your heart not just with your lips he will change you clence you and the best thing make you new creature what has happened in the past stays in the past I have seen people changed being gay to getting married and making a real life I cant blame a gay person cause he either was raised confused or spoil but changes can be made thats my belief respectful to what you believe its your choice its your life but I see it wrong in my part

How do you convert "to" Christ?

Don't you mean, convert to following Christ, who never said anything condemning homosexuality, I have never seen one word uttered from God himself, or Christ, just a third party people claiming that's what they may have said.

I have seen many people try to become straight, and some people who have, but not for long, because they don't feel any sexual attraction, for the opposite sex, and those that "became" straight, were most likely bisexual.

lol, you got a lot of prejudice views, and prejudice means you have a bunch of preconceived views on someone or something.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2009, 04:26:56 PM »

Why cant you idiots realise that Homosexuality is pushed by the eugenicists because what better form of population control than homos? God destroyed sodom and gomorrah because of their homosexuality. Homosexuality is indeed unnatural and those evildoers will be executed by god when the time comes.

You also believe in creationism.  Nuff said..........
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2009, 04:29:24 PM »

You also believe in creationism.  Nuff said..........
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2009, 04:30:15 PM »

Hi, I am a homosexual, and very much against eugenics and the NWO.

Their is no proof that God destroyed the cities, unless you want to use the Bible and/or religious books as your only sources.

lol, you keep believing that, let a supernatural unseen being control your life.

Hi homosexual Chris2005, I believe that you are on wrong forum. Do you non-homophobic natural people have some kind of non-homophobic natural forum?
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2009, 04:30:41 PM »

Just a comment, homosexuality is being an issue that is being pushed upon the masses to be as acceptable and normal as apple pie.

Children are being exposed to this, they are being used by those who hide under the mask of simple homosexuality.

Have you ever seen a male child after he has been sodomized by a a group of men. I have, and it as a though I was seeing a death of a child rather than the after effects of the attack. (Mission Hill, Boston, 1976).
I knew men who had been abused by priests in the Boston area, a great majority of them will admit they will never overcome emotionaly the attacks and molestation.

A moral degeneration is being spinned upon the masses, it has been for some time. That is my concern.

Adults, they have a choice, children can be turned and emotionaly crippled, that is not what would make my day.

Simply put, Adults have their own minds and free will, children do not. They are pliable and susceptable to those who deceive for their own wants and desires.

No, I didn't read the post, I just wanted to make this comment.
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2009, 04:31:30 PM »

Who cares if it's natural or not. The Australian government recognizes same sex relationships http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/individuals/same_sex.htm and I understand that has been an uphill battle for the LBGTQ community. But it is the law.

The USA has some incredibly backward laws regarding gays and the issuance of "marriage licenses" and deciding what a "couple" means for tax or other purposes, probably because it is heavily under the control of oppressive christian values which have absolutely no basis in reason.   Roll Eyes

Really as Americans you should be supporting their right to self determination like you did for them guys in Kosovo that time. Gay/Lesbian/Tranny versus straight, Black versus white
woman versus man your society is so divisive.  Angry

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sexual deviant people as they are. Perverted

They? see how easily it is to dehumanize "them"? I bet if the Illuminati put a gun in your hand and told you to kill some gays you'd be a trigger puller amirite? Free your mind.

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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2009, 04:33:46 PM »

Hi, I am a homosexual, and very much against eugenics and the NWO.

Their is no proof that God destroyed the cities, unless you want to use the Bible and/or religious books as your only sources.

lol, you keep believing that, let a supernatural unseen being control your life.

Dude you have no idea what he was saying cause even if you don't believe in god it always been part of the plan.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=112518.0

Yes homosexuality is unnatural in what we know as "reproduction".
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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2009, 04:33:59 PM »

Hi homosexual Chris2005, I believe that you are on wrong forum. Do you non-homophobic natural people have some kind of non-homophobic natural forum?

lol, your comment made no sense whatsoever, well their really isn't a forum for this topic, so I just made it a general discussion, because their really isn't a religious forum section for it, nor do I want it to be a religious debate, because religion offers only one perspective, I want responses from free thinkers, who are able to think for themselves, and not have a book of words influence that, of course it's inevitable with some people, who have the Bible stapled to their brains.

I personally don't consider everyone who disagree's with homosexuality, homophobic, as a phobia means you are afraid of something, some people aren't so much afraid, as they are against or disagree with it.
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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2009, 04:35:11 PM »

Homosexuality is "natural".

Just like bloodlust, alcoholism, cancer and promiscuity are natural.

Bottom line its ultimately a choice with negative consequences, such as early death.

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2009, 04:35:20 PM »

Why cant you idiots realise that Homosexuality is pushed by the eugenicists because what better form of population control than homos?

Interesting tangent. Tell me do you feel the NWO might be using MKULTRA type devices to fill you will homosexual urges?
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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2009, 04:35:49 PM »

Just a comment, homosexuality is being an issue that is being pushed upon the masses to be as acceptable and normal as apple pie.

Children are being exposed to this, they are being used by those who hide under the mask of simple homosexuality.

Have you ever seen a male child after he has been sodomized by a a group of men. I have, and it as a though I was seeing a death of a child rather than the after effects of the attack. (Mission Hill, Boston, 1976).
I knew men who had been abused by priests in the Boston area, a great majority of them will admit they will never overcome emotionaly the attacks and molestation.

A moral degeneration is being spinned upon the masses, it has been for some time. That is my concern.

Adults, they have a choice, children can be turned and emotionaly crippled, that is not what would make my day.

Simply put, Adults have their own minds and free will, children do not. They are pliable and susceptable to those who deceive for their own wants and desires.

No, I didn't read the post, I just wanted to make this comment.

Well, I was molested by a my female babysitter when I was like 3.
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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2009, 04:37:17 PM »

Children are being exposed to this, they are being used by those who hide under the mask of simple homosexuality.

Isn't that a different issue though, compared to the issue of whether or not homosexuality is natural or not?

You also believe in creationism.  Nuff said..........

And I believe that responding in kind (bigotry with bigotry) isn't going to get us anywhere.
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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2009, 04:37:46 PM »

Who cares if it's natural or not. The Australian government recognizes same sex relationships http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/individuals/same_sex.htm and I understand that has been an uphill battle for the LBGTQ community. But it is the law.

The USA has some incredibly backward laws regarding gays and the issuance of "marriage licenses" and deciding what a "couple" means for tax or other purposes, probably because it is heavily under the control of oppressive christian values which have absolutely no basis in reason.   Roll Eyes

Really as Americans you should be supporting their right to self determination like you did for them guys in Kosovo that time. Gay/Lesbian/Tranny versus straight, Black versus white
woman versus man your society is so divisive.  Angry

They? see how easily it is to dehumanize "them"? I bet if the Illuminati put a gun in your hand and told you to kill some gays you'd be a trigger puller amirite? Free your mind.

How about we focus on the real minority group, the NWO...  Grin




How about we stop putting people into different groups to further the divide & conquer agenda, and unite against the NWO? And what the hell is the "LBGTQ community"?! Some club for fags to have mass orgies?  Huh
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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2009, 04:37:59 PM »

Well, I was molested by a my female babysitter

Some guys get all the luck  Embarrassed
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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2009, 04:38:46 PM »

Dude you have no idea what he was saying cause even if you don't believe in god it always been part of the plan.
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Yes homosexuality is unnatural in what we know as "reproduction".

Yea, if you knew that humans are animals, and other species of animals are also homosexual.
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2009, 04:39:22 PM »

Some guys get all the luck  Embarrassed

Not really, as she was an old lady.
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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2009, 04:39:26 PM »

Well, I was molested by a my female babysitter when I was like 3.

There is an answer on a Q how and when you are become so sick. Cccccccc I am so sorry for you. Are you tried to help yourself by seeing a shrink?
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2009, 04:39:41 PM »

Hi homosexual Chris2005, I believe that you are on wrong forum. Do you non-homophobic natural people have some kind of non-homophobic natural forum?

Are you actually saying that gay people aren't welcome here?

I guess that "we" don't want "them" to be involved in the fight against the NWO.  We probably don't want any of those nasty Jews or Muslims either.  And of course those god-hating Atheists, we've got to keep them out too.  To be safe, we'd better keep out the Agnostics, they're almost Atheists.
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2009, 04:39:54 PM »

Some guys get all the luck  Embarrassed

You know, I can't think of being sexually molested by anyone as being "lucky."
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2009, 04:40:25 PM »

For what it's worth, I see it as natural but abnormal. It's a mistake, just like with Down Syndrome... we still love and respect each other, but we also want fewer Down Syndrome children to begin with. Same could be said for physical deformaties. Sex's main purpose is to keep the species populated, (fun, entertainment, pleasure and passion are secondary), so a homosexual act is actually "abnormal", because it doesn't even attempt to follow the prime directive. Conclusion: We should all want fewer homosexuals, just as we want fewer children born with Down Syndrome.
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2009, 04:41:26 PM »

How about we stop putting people into different groups to further the divide & conquer agenda, and unite against the NWO? And what the hell is the "LBGTQ community"?! Some club for fags to have mass orgies?  Huh

It's actually the "LBGT community" I don't what the Q meant, but it stands for Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, and Transgender, and no it's no a club.

It's no different than any other community, it just consists of Lesbians, Bisexuals, Gays, and Transgenders.
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2009, 04:41:57 PM »

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For what it's worth, I see it as natural but abnormal. It's a mistake, just like with Down Syndrome... we still love and respect each other, but we also want fewer Down Syndrome children to begin with. Same could be said for physical deformaties. Sex's main purpose is to keep the species populated, (fun, entertainment, pleasure and passion are secondary), so a homosexual act is actually "abnormal", because it doesn't even attempt to follow the prime directive. Conclusion: We should all want fewer homosexuals, just as we want fewer children born with Down Syndrome.

I think I agree with this pretty much 100%. Obviously it's quite a complex issue nowadays, but this seems to put it in simplest form.
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