Yes, The Int'l Banking Cartel does run the Nobel Peace Prize - OBAMA WINS [duh]

[MrSwe]

OMG THIS IS INSAAAAAAAAAAAANEEEE!

I thought it was a f***** joke at first! 






God im ashamed of being swedish right now.. GOD!

[EvadingGrid]

see above

Ah the rogue middle eastern state with nuclear weapons that legitimises any desire Iran might have for wanting nuclear weapons.

What next ?
"First person to Nuke Iran gets next years Nobel War Prize ?"

[Dig]

+1million

thank god for people that even let us know about them, i still laugh at luke rudowskis video of him trying to confront rockefeller outide his nyc home with his own book

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1cxo230FvU

His confrontation of Brzezinski was one of the best pieces of video in the history of talking pictures!

[bigron]

WHAT PEACE ??


Lieberman: US doesn't get it - peace efforts have no chance !


Ma'an News

http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=m58719&hd=&size=1&l=e

October 8, 2009

Bethlehem - Ma'an/Agencies - Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman told AP there is no chance of ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict for many years, in an interview published Thursday.

The comments to the international news agency came as Israeli and Palestinian negotiators sit down in Washington, Tel Aviv and Ramallah under American patronage and try to hammer out a deal that apparently includes Palestinians dropping the pursuit of war crimes investigations into Israel's Operation Cast Lead in December and January.

Those who think a long-term agreement can be reached, Lieberman said, 'just doesn't understand the situation,' AP paraphrased. He also suggested negotiators aim at establishing interim agreements rather than final status talks.

Lieberman spoke to the AP ahead of a meeting with special US envoy to the Middle East George Mitchell, who arrived int he region Wednesday to push froward the peace process.





 

[ridebmx]

His confrontation of Brzezinski was one of the best pieces of video in the history of talking pictures!

but of course!  when is the we are change video coming out?

[bigron]

Change we can’t believe in

BY Mehdi Hasan

                                   
 

Barack Obama promised a sharp break from the Bush era, yet he seems to have stepped into the shoes of his disgraced predecessor. As the anniversary of his election approaches, Mehdi Hasan investigates what went wrong

New Statesman - October 8, 2009

http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=m58720&hd=&size=1&l=e

On a cold February morning, less than three weeks after Barack Obama's inauguration as the 44th president of the United States, a lawyer from the department of justice stood up in a San Francisco courtroom to defend the government from accusations of torture. Five detainees, including the British resident Binyam Mohamed, had filed a suit against Jeppesen Dataplan Inc, a subsidiary of Boeing, for its alleged role in "extraordinary rendition", in which terrorism suspects are sent to third countries for detention, interrogation and - the plaintiffs claim - torture.

During the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama repeatedly criticised the Bush administration's treatment of detainees, its rendition policy and the use of the "state secrets" privilege to prevent classified information from being discussed in court. Writing in Foreign Affairs magazine in 2007, he had argued that building a "better, freer world . . . means ending the practices of shipping away prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far-off countries, of detaining thousands without charge or trial, of maintaining a network of secret prisons to jail people beyond the reach of the law".

But on that February morning, the government lawyer Douglas N Letter made the same "state secrets" argument for dismissing the case as the Bush administration had used in previous months. The legal position he was advancing on behalf of the government, Letter said, had been "thoroughly vetted with the appropriate officials within the new administration", and this was the "authorised" position.

As the prominent liberal blogger and lawyer Glenn Greenwald pointed out at the time, this was "the first real test of the authenticity of Obama's commitment to reverse the abuses of executive power over the last eight years". But Obama failed the test - and he did so not only in this instance, but in a number of similar court cases. Together, these cases suggest that his administration has no immediate or concrete plans to realise the hopes and dreams of liberals at home and abroad by rolling back the imperial overreach of the Bush era. On the contrary, in the field of counter-terrorism and on the issue of executive power as a whole, Obama has distressingly begun to resemble George W Bush.

Another San Francisco court case in February this year involved the al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, a charity that the Bush administration accused in 2004 of supporting terrorism. The plaintiffs claimed that federal authorities had illegally listened in on their lawyers' phone calls. In 2007, Obama described Bush's warrantless wiretapping programme as "unlawful and unconstitutional", but two years later the Obama justice department again followed in the footsteps of Bush and tried to have the case dismissed on grounds of national security and protecting "state secrets".

"Obama has stepped into the shoes of President Bush," Jon Eisenberg, a lawyer for the plaintiffs, told me. "He continues to assert the state secrets privilege to resist holdover lawsuits from the Bush era . . . in an attempt to prevent the judiciary from adjudicating on the legality of the warrantless wiretapping programme, and addressing the larger presidential power issues that the case presents." He added: "Change we can believe in? Nope."

The distance between Obama and Bush on a host of policies is not as great as many people might hope or have expected - and it appears to get narrower by the day. This should not, perhaps, come as a huge surprise. One reason for continuity between US presidents - even those who are, on the surface, as different as Bush and Obama - is the nature of the modern imperial presidency, at the apex of a bloated national-security state. As the historian Garry Wills pointed out recently in the New York Review of Books, the president "is greatly pressured to keep all the empire's secrets . . . he becomes the prisoner of his own power . . . a self-entangling giant".

Then there is the pattern of presidential candidates railing against the incumbent's record, only to find themselves sympathising with their predecessor's predicament and policies once they have taken his place. In 1952, as a candidate, Dwight Eisenhower denounced President Truman's policy of containment towards the Soviet Union, yet embraced it within six months of entering the White House. In 2000, Bush derided President Clinton's attempts at nation-building in Somalia and Bosnia, only to spend two terms trying to build new political structures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

During his inauguration, Obama, it is said, told Bush that he hoped to call on him for advice - and he has since spoken to his predecessor at least once. But there are those who would argue that it is absurd to compare the liberal Democrat Obama with the ultra-conservative Republican George Bush. And some would say it is unfair to hold Obama to account only nine months into his presidency. Others would point to the range of policies on which Obama has marked out new terrain: proposing health-care reform, taking climate change seriously, standing up to Wall Street and announcing an end to torture and the closure of Guantanamo Bay. On these and many other issues, his army of fans would argue, the president has shown the world his liberalism, his radicalism, his enthusiasm for change - that he is, in the words of the writer Michael Tomasky, "the anti-Bush".

But let us consider each of these in turn. Now is, in fact, an ideal time to pass an interim verdict on Obama's presidency, with the one-year anniversary of his election fast approaching. Previous presidencies, from FDR on, have been judged on their first 100 days in office: Obama has had more than 250, representing a fifth of his first - possibly only - presidential term.

On health, he has proposed reforming the system of care that leaves 46 million Americans uninsured, but has retreated at the first sign of trouble, backing down on the "public option" - a government-run rival insurance plan - even though it may be the only method of ensuring that the private insurance industry so beloved of the Republican Party is exposed to real competition and challenge.

On climate change, Obama, unlike Bush, has recognised the need to combat global warming. Like Bush, however, he has failed to persuade Congress to take substantive action on emissions and has yet to pledge significant financial support for developing countries to help them cope with the coming climate crisis. His rhetoric may have shifted since the late 1990s when, as a state senator, he lent his support to a bill condemning the Kyoto Treaty, but it has yet to be matched by action.

One of Obama's executive orders calls for an increase in motor vehicle mileage standards, but this will only, in the words of Steven Hill of the New America Foundation, "push fuel efficiency by 2020 to a level that European and Japanese cars reached several years ago, and which even China has already achieved". Meanwhile, in May, the administration opted to retain, despite Congressional support to overturn it, a Bush-era rule that limits protection for polar bears in the Arctic - classed as an "endangered species" by the US Environmental Protection Agency - from the effects of global warming.

On financial reform, Obama has been accused of being a "socialist" and a "Marxist", intent on nationalising the US economy. The fiscal reality is, however, very different. The multibillion-dollar bank bailout, approved by Bush, has simply been continued by Obama in the same vein (his treasury secretary, Tim Geithner, worked closely with the Bush administration as president of the New York Federal Reserve). Obama has tried to rein in bank bonuses and failed. Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan - recipients of bailout aid - paid out billions more in bonuses in 2009 than in 2008. Meanwhile, he has continued to defend executive pay on Wall Street and set himself against European proposals to regulate remuneration or impose a cap on bonuses.

Obama came to power with a "firm pledge" not to raise "any form" of taxes on families making less than $250,000 a year. However, despite an off-the-cuff remark that he wanted to "spread the wealth around", his tax plans have done little to advance even modest social-democratic goals. As the treasury department's "Green Book" on revenue proposals has acknowledged, "The [Obama] administration's primary policy proposals . . . [make] permanent a number of the [Bush] tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003."

Diane Lim Rogers, chief economist at the bipartisan fiscal think tank Concord Coalition, told me that "almost all of the tax policy proposed in the Obama budget is just a continuation of the Bush tax policy". Under the "Bush-Obama tax cuts", the only income group not to benefit is the top 0.1 per cent - households with an annual income of more than $2.7m. Like Bush, Obama seems keen not to upset or disturb the rich and powerful.

On torture and Guantanamo Bay, Obama was praised for announcing, in his first week in office, that the world's most notorious prison camp would be closed within a year and that torture - including the Bush-approved technique of "waterboarding" - would be outlawed. Last month, however, with Congress refusing to agree to closure, the Pentagon's top lawyer, Jeh Johnson, said the administration was committed to shutting Guantanamo Bay by early 2010, but stopped short of confirming it will happen. According to the Columbia University law professor Scott Horton, force-feeding operations have continued at the camp, and are apparently administered with "such violence and brutality" that one prisoner has died.

Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, the US is increasing its capacity to imprison people by expanding facilities at bases such as Bagram, where human rights groups have documented many incidents of torture and several unexplained deaths in custody. In February the new administration told a federal judge that military detainees there have no legal right to challenge their captivity. So much for ending the Bush administration's policy of indefinitely detaining "enemy combatants" without trial.

Obama has refused to release the shocking photographs of the Bush administration's "enhanced interrogation" techniques, as well as CIA documents describing those interrogations. He has criticised Senator Patrick Leahy's proposal for a "truth commission" to investigate the Bush administration's national security policies, and backed immunity for senior Bush officials implicated in torture. In effect, he is covering up the torture he decried as a presidential candidate. As the neoconservative Charles Krauthammer wrote with glee in May: "Observers of all political stripes are stunned by how much of the Bush national security agenda is being adopted by this new Democratic government."

It is on foreign policy, and the "war on terror" in particular, that Obama was expected to make the biggest break with the Bush regime. Early on, he announced that he would begin winding down the war in Iraq - but only, it seems, in order to divert US troops, spies and diplomats to the war in Afghanistan and operations across the border in Pakistan. He has approved air strikes there that have killed more civilians in nine months than died in US bombings in the final year of the previous administration.

It may have been Bush who invaded Afghanistan eight years ago, but that conflict should now be seen as Obama's war. With the support of a key holdover from the Bush administration, the defence secretary, Robert Gates, Obama has sent more than 30,000 extra troops to Afghanistan since May - almost doubling the US contingent.

The pressure for more troops is being kept up by Obama's new commander on the ground, Stanley McChrystal. In true Bush style, Obama suddenly replaced David McKiernan with McChrystal in May. McChrystal is an odd choice for a liberal president and critic of the Iraq war: a favourite of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, he has been accused of overseeing torture and human rights abuses, under Bush's presidency, at Camp Nama in Iraq, during his deployment there as a special forces commander.

If he is to chart a course independent of the war crimes, torture, chaos and general lawlessness of the Bush years, Obama has to start with the Afghan debacle. He can, in the words of the New York Times columnist Frank Rich, emulate President John F Kennedy's decision-making on Vietnam, and resist lobbying by military leaders and a hawkish media for more troops and more war, or he can continue down the Bush road of perpetual war for perpetual peace.

Obama will have to act soon to reverse the slide in his ratings, to reassert his authority at home and abroad, to keep his army of liberal Obamaniacs on board. Disenchantment and disillusionment with the candidate of change are beginning to harden. Some will argue that the left is forever prepared to scream "betrayal" at those it elects to power - be that Lyndon B Johnson, Harold Wilson, Bill Clinton or Tony Blair. But the case of Obama is different.

With his presidential campaign, the former Illinois senator raised the hopes of millions of people across the US and the world to an extent never seen in modern politics, talking repeatedly of change, reform and renewal, and suggesting he would erase the legacy of his disliked and disgraced pre­decessor from day one. It was inevitable that even the slightest sense of continuity in policy, personnel or practice would disappoint, as it has. Obama, however, has gone further, adopting his predecessor's positions on a wide variety of issues, from the parochially domestic to the grandly geopolitical.

The lawyer Jon Eisenberg, who continues to battle the Bush-like Obama justice department in the courts, has been a registered Democrat for 30 years. He considers himself to be a "moderate leftist" and echoes the opinions of growing numbers of Americans: "I voted for Obama - even contributed a substantial amount of money to his campaign. I want my money back."

Mehdi Hasan is senior editor (politics) of the New Statesman. Read his blog, Dissident Voice:

http://www.uruknet.info/blogs/dissident-voice

 

[Outer Haven]

His confrontation of Brzezinski was one of the best pieces of video in the history of talking pictures!

+1

I have yet to see his confrontation with Charlie Rose, where, reportedly, mr. Rose ran away like a chicken after he'd been asked about the Bilderberg group.

[bigron]

[bigron]

As U.S. Continues Afghan, Iraq Occupations and Quashes Accountability for Gaza Assault, Critics Decry Awarding of Nobel Peace Prize to Obama

Democracy Now!



October 9, 2009
WATCH VIDEO:

http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=m58732&hd=&size=1&l=e




President Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, less than nine months after taking office. The award comes despite Obama’s continuation of the Iraq war and escalation of the US occupation of Afghanistan. We get reaction from author and journalist Naomi Klein and London-based author and commentator Tariq Ali.


President Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Price, less than nine months after taking office. The chair of the Nobel Committee, Thorbjorn Jagland, made the announcement today in the Norwegian capital of Oslo.

The Nobel Committee specifically highlighted what it called Obama’s outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation. After the announcement, Jagland took questions from journalists.

President Obama took office less than two weeks before the nomination deadline. He is the third sitting American president to win the Nobel Peace Prize after Theodore Roosevelt in 1906 and Woodrow Wilson in 1919.

For more we are joined by two journalists: Jeremy Scahill is an award-winning reporter and Democracy Now! correspondent. He is author of the international bestseller, "Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army." His writing is available at RebelReports.com. He joins us via Democracy Now video stream. And joining us on the telephone is award-winning journalist and author, Naomi Klein. She is author of the books "The Shock Doctrine" and "No Logo." She joins us on the line from her home in Toronto.

Just before the program we reached veteran journalist and activist Tariq Ali. He has written over a dozen books and is on the editorial board of the New Left Review. Democracy Now producer Sharif Abdel Kouddous asked Tariq Ali for his reaction to Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

Naomi Klein, Journalist and author of the books The Shock Doctrine and No Logo.

Tariq Ali, Author of over a dozen books and is on the editorial board of the New Left Review.



 

[agentbluescreen]

Change we can’t believe in

BY Mehdi Hasan


Barack Obama promised a sharp break from the Bush era, yet he seems to have stepped into the shoes of his disgraced predecessor. As the anniversary of his election approaches, Mehdi Hasan investigates what went wrong

New Statesman - October 8, 2009

http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=m58720&hd=&size=1&l=e

On a cold February morning, less than three weeks after Barack Obama's inauguration as the 44th president of the United States, a lawyer from the department of justice stood up in a San Francisco courtroom to defend the government from accusations of torture. Five detainees, including the British resident Binyam Mohamed, had filed a suit against Jeppesen Dataplan Inc, a subsidiary of Boeing, for its alleged role in "extraordinary rendition", in which terrorism suspects are sent to third countries for detention, interrogation and - the plaintiffs claim - torture.

 ......

Well at the dawn of a depression, when you're given the choice between a lying, cheating pair of Chicago crooks and a military-industrial mafiosi with a bride of Satan veep, you pick the lesser of two evils...

With 20% unemployment in 2012 we'll be voting-in a Pol Pot...

[bigron]

Barack Obama's Nobel prize greeted with cynicism and surprise

Jon Boone in Kabul and Rory McCarthy in Jerusalem

http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=m58731&hd=&size=1&l=e

October 9, 2009

Residents of Kabul and Jerusalem voice reservations at US president's award

Kabul

For the crowd gathered for a second day of festivities at one of the Afghan capital's garish wedding halls this afternoon there was widespread cynicism at the news of Obama's Nobel win.

"I don't know how he can get this prize," said Najeeb, a 30-year-old shopkeeper attending a friend's wedding party. "Maybe it's been awarded for all the houses they are bombing, or perhaps it's for all his soldiers that are dying in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Next to him a local staff member of a western NGO called Elyas wondered whether Obama will ever be able to bring peace to Afghanistan. "Obama and his favourite president [Karzai] haven't been able to do anything here. We used to be able to drive to Kunduz and Mazar-i-Sharif [two northern cities considered safe until recently] but now we can't because fighters are coming to the roads and looting people."

But a tribal elder from western Kabul called Shafi said Obama should be given a chance as he reviews his Afghanistan strategy. "If someone spent 20 years doing nothing for peace he shouldn't get the Nobel prize ‑ but if he does good things for peace even if it is just for three or four months then I am happy. He should send more troops to Afghanistan. If we don't have support of the world community we won't have one hour of peace, again it will be the fighting, civil war and misfortune."

Jon Boone







Jerusalem

Israelis and Palestinians alike said they were surprised by the news of Barack Obama's Nobel peace prize. Palestinians, in particular, spoke of their disappointment that Obama had not taken concrete steps towards ending the Israeli occupation or creating an independent Palestinian state.

"I think he doesn't deserve the prize because he hasn't done anything," said Mohaned Munir, 20. Born in Jerusalem, he was studying computing at Bethlehem University. "We want him to be more serious in his steps towards the Palestinians if he is going to make real peace here."

Eyad Bannoura, 50, a Christian Palestinian decorator from Bethlehem, agreed. "He doesn't deserve it. He's not with us. He says he supports us, but nothing has changed. We just want peace, to live here in two states, one for us, one for the Jews. But Obama is like all the leaders in the past: they all say the same thing and nothing happens." Bannoura, who was walking through a park in west Jerusalem, is one of the few Palestinians lucky enough to have a work permit to enter Israel.

Dina Heller, a British-born Israeli, said she was still hoping Obama would bring change. "I think maybe this is a way to try and influence him to change things a bit, but until now things haven't really changed," she said. "As for peace here, I hope for it but I don't see it in the near future. People have tried and tried for many years and it always seems to be a quagmire."

However, Netanel Yackobi, 31, felt Obama's administration had been unfairly pressuring Israel, particularly over settlements. "I think we should do what is good for us, not what he tells us to do," he said. "This is our home and we don't need to leave our home. If somebody wants to live here, like the Arabs, they can live here. But if they want a country of their own they can go to Iraq or Jordan ‑ there's lots of space there."

Yackobi said he was worried the prize might give Obama more confidence in his Middle East diplomacy and that might mean more pressure on Israel. "It gives him more power," he said. "If he gets the prize just for what he said he wants, it is like telling him he's right and he should go ahead and do it."

Rory McCarthy



 

[kushfiend]

This is getting really stupid.  Shit like this makes me understand why God used to smote people left and right.  I mean really, how obvious does it have to get before people finally, finally get it.  

Obama has done nothing, zilch, nada, zero, zip, nada, NOTHING to earn this.

I am so frickin tired of this diefying of Barry, the CFR/Bildeberg/Wall street puppet master.

Yay for this generation's Henry Kissinger - when the global strife that this country has caused hits home I hope someone shoves Barry's stupid peace prize down his lie-filled throat.  f**kING SCUMBAG TRAITOR BASTARD

[bigron]

Well, Nobel Was the Inventor of Dynamite, After All

BY Chris Floyd


                                    


An original Nobel Dynamite box in the "Bornholms Tekniske Samling" collection.


October 9, 2009

Sometimes you run across a story that defies all comment, rational analysis -- even parody. This is one of those times:

In Surprise, Nobel Peace Prize to Obama for Diplomacy (NYT).

To give a peace prize to the commander-in-chief of a war machine now churning its way through the populations of three countries (Iraq/Af-Pak), with innumerable black ops, lightning raids and drone shots on the side .... to a man who even as we speak is deciding just how he wants to kill even more civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan ...  a man who has enthusiastically embraced as "an extraordinary achievement" one of the most heinous and barbaric acts of military aggression since Hitler rolled across the border into Poland ... a man who blusters about leaving "all options on the table," including the use of mass-murdering nuclear weapons, to bully other nations into compliance with American wishes ... to give a peace prize to such a man, while all over the world, there are men and women who have devoted their entire lives to non-violence and reconciliation, many of them suffering imprisonment, torture and ruin for their efforts ... well, like I said, it's beyond words.

But it's good to see that the spirit of arms merchant Alfred Nobel -- purveyor and profiteer of death and destruction -- is being honored so perfectly with today's award.  


 

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

I can't wait until it arrives in the mail in that box of free laundry detergent!

[kushfiend]

I just ran outside and slapped a mentally handicapped child around - where's my nobel peace price?

[twitterbell]

Start here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=139328.0

[John_Back_From_The_Club_O]

I just ran outside and slapped a mentally handicapped child around - where's my nobel peace price?

If it didn't come in the mail I think you can pick them up at Hooters.

[lavosslayer]

this was clearly done to further galvanize the left/right paradigm in this country and really stir up the tension...these people are so damn sick...but even more then that it seems like a precursor to something wicked...

[NWOSCUM]

Well, Nobel Was the Inventor of Dynamite, After All

BY Chris Floyd


                                    


An original Nobel Dynamite box in the "Bornholms Tekniske Samling" collection.


October 9, 2009

Sometimes you run across a story that defies all comment, rational analysis -- even parody. This is one of those times:

In Surprise, Nobel Peace Prize to Obama for Diplomacy (NYT).

To give a peace prize to the commander-in-chief of a war machine now churning its way through the populations of three countries (Iraq/Af-Pak), with innumerable black ops, lightning raids and drone shots on the side .... to a man who even as we speak is deciding just how he wants to kill even more civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan ...  a man who has enthusiastically embraced as "an extraordinary achievement" one of the most heinous and barbaric acts of military aggression since Hitler rolled across the border into Poland ... a man who blusters about leaving "all options on the table," including the use of mass-murdering nuclear weapons, to bully other nations into compliance with American wishes ... to give a peace prize to such a man, while all over the world, there are men and women who have devoted their entire lives to non-violence and reconciliation, many of them suffering imprisonment, torture and ruin for their efforts ... well, like I said, it's beyond words.

But it's good to see that the spirit of arms merchant Alfred Nobel -- purveyor and profiteer of death and destruction -- is being honored so perfectly with today's award.  


 

As AJ would say, "Folks, you just can't make this stuff up".

[ConcordeWarrior]

This is the only song I have listened to for the past 48 hours:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-TGtzZAXxc

Absolutely love this.  Utube Video is now posted on my Facebook page! :-)

[TheHouseMan]

It's the Nobel Rest in Peace Prize.

[jofortruth]

Try less than two WEEKS.

http://www.wcbs880.com/President-Barack-Obama-Wins-2009-Nobel-Peace-Prize/5402660

The stunning choice made Obama the third sitting U.S. president to win the Nobel Peace Prize and shocked Nobel observers because Obama took office less than two weeks before the Feb. 1 nomination deadline.

Yeah, isn't that interesting! The selection was made Feb 1, 2009, hardly enough time to have earned this award. This shows you how they use this award (did same with Al Gore and his Stupid Global Warming nonsense) to promote people with the public they want them to believe and follow. IMO, not many of them are worth following anymore.

The childish Elite are seriously deluded if they think we will fall for this one. Amazingly stupid!

[bigron]

Taliban suggest "Nobel violence prize" for Obama

Reuters

http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=m58735&hd=&size=1&l=e

October 9, 2009

KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's Taliban mocked the award of a Nobel Peace Prize to U.S. President Barack Obama on Friday, saying he should get a Nobel prize for violence instead.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said it was absurd to give a peace award to a man who had sent 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan to escalate a war.

"The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won the 'Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'," he told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

"When Obama replaced President Bush, the Afghan people thought that he would not follow in Bush's footsteps. Unfortunately, Obama actually even went one step further."

In awarding the Nobel Prize to Obama, the Norwegian Nobel Committee said he had "created a new climate in international politics" and praised his promotion of multi-lateral diplomacy and advocacy for arms control.

"For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman," it said.

Obama ordered 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan this year, continuing a strategy of dramatically ramping up forces that began in the final months of the presidency of his predecessor George W. Bush.

There are now more than 100,000 Western troops in Afghanistan, two thirds of them American. In July, thousands of newly arrived U.S. Marines launched the biggest offensive of the eight-year-old war.

The United Nations says 1,500 civilians have died so far this year, with insurgents killing three times as many as Western and government forces.

The new commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, has asked for 40,000 more troops to implement an overhauled counter-insurgency strategy.

The White House is still deciding how to respond, and Obama has described himself as a sceptical audience for the case.

(Reporting by Hamid Shalizi; writing by Peter Graff; editing by David Stamp)




 

[lavosslayer]

Taliban suggest "Nobel violence prize" for Obama

Reuters

http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=m58735&hd=&size=1&l=e

October 9, 2009

KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's Taliban mocked the award of a Nobel Peace Prize to U.S. President Barack Obama on Friday, saying he should get a Nobel prize for violence instead.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said it was absurd to give a peace award to a man who had sent 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan to escalate a war.

"The Nobel prize for peace? Obama should have won the 'Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians'," he told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

"When Obama replaced President Bush, the Afghan people thought that he would not follow in Bush's footsteps. Unfortunately, Obama actually even went one step further."

In awarding the Nobel Prize to Obama, the Norwegian Nobel Committee said he had "created a new climate in international politics" and praised his promotion of multi-lateral diplomacy and advocacy for arms control.

"For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman," it said.

Obama ordered 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan this year, continuing a strategy of dramatically ramping up forces that began in the final months of the presidency of his predecessor George W. Bush.

There are now more than 100,000 Western troops in Afghanistan, two thirds of them American. In July, thousands of newly arrived U.S. Marines launched the biggest offensive of the eight-year-old war.

The United Nations says 1,500 civilians have died so far this year, with insurgents killing three times as many as Western and government forces.

The new commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, has asked for 40,000 more troops to implement an overhauled counter-insurgency strategy.

The White House is still deciding how to respond, and Obama has described himself as a sceptical audience for the case.

(Reporting by Hamid Shalizi; writing by Peter Graff; editing by David Stamp)

Talk about a ridiculous argument!! Like it matters who killed more then the other, the problem is that civilians are getting killed, period! WTF PEOPLE!!?!

[Anti_Illuminati]

The Nobel Peace Prize IS the Nobel War Prize.

Anyone who isn't awake to this now, will never get it.

I actually think this is a good thing for the following reasons...

1. People at work, most of whom voted for Obama, kept saying "why" and "he hasn't done anything for peace," etc
2. Now, every time a missile kills babies in Pakistan or wherever, somebody will make a crack about the Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
3. Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize for An Inconvenient Truth, and look at how the worm has turned on that issue.
4. It is so ridiculous that even people who are not conspiracy researchers at all are going to start questioning movement behind the scenes.
5. My Korean English students all laughed at the news and replied with comments like "Obama sucks" and "Obama lost the Olympics"

So what you have here is some elaborate shock and awe psyops to subconsciously shock the mind into giving up by being exposed to unprecedented disbelief.  People that do not understand that in the minds of the NWO, that war IS peace (war against us) will be confused, and it will lead to indifference toward further acts of genocide, mega police state expansion, disregarding inalienable rights, merc death squads suddenly showing up all over the place, more cameras everywhere, new never before seen forms of forced invasive biometric scanning instruments being deployed everywhere.

"Let's confuse the shit out of the American people and the world by doing things that are the epitome of being contradictory, and throw their feeble minds into our version of hell.  WE are the actors, WE create YOUR reality, YOU are too brain damaged to understand our advanced methodologies, and thus-by default we have already calculated and predicted your response to us--and make no mistake, YOU will REACT the way we want you to.  WE have YOU exactly where we want you--mind-numbed, and your thought processes scarred with the subtle, but brutal reality that you know that your country is sold out to someone, but you still can't quite figure out to whom."

what is up with the black crap?

it is not because he is black (he ain't black anyway, he is a very very very light cafe ole at best ), it is because he gave $27.3 Trillion to the international banking cartel.  He could be green and they would have given it to him.

QFT.  

In the minds of the oligarchs, Mr Obama may have delayed the coming of the revolution,

And thus, contributed to World Peace.

Get your script, lie, tell everyone what they want to hear, and prevent those dreamers who are waiting for the slight chance that their mortgages will be forgiven by bailed out banks...

Keeps the dreamers peaceful for a while rather than waking up to cruel reality.

Golly, gee whizz, he might just have prevented the revolution of the American People against the slick whores at the FED, the Congress, the NWO...

Won't work forever, but isn't this prize given out yearly?
Next year's winners: BlackWater as we all know mercenaries protect the peace wherever they are sent.
Great wordplay: Peacekeepers.

And there you go, you have nailed it.

I have a very foreboding sense from this.

They gave him the peace price for another reason--not just for the murder and theft that he has complied with and ordered as a puppet.

They gave him this because he is going to go for broke to follow through with the mass murder of American citizens.  He is going to make C.O.G. fully rise like the Phoenix rising from the ashes (more so than it did on 9/11).  He is fully complying with the CSIS/NCOIC/NSCAT to commandeer the entire Internet for the NWO global military force and it's subordinate JTF's.  The military has propagandized that they need more bandwidth, when Navy aircraft carriers have 250 GIGABIT/sec throughput satellite links (or higher now) to wage war against the "have-nots"--created by the theft of what they had.  

To me him winning this genocide award is like the blank round fired at the track marathon to go in absolutely full bore and gut America to the bone, and then bleach the bones with those beetles that archaeologists use, but America won't be "dead enough" for them even then, they will take the bones, and grind them to dust, and use it to cover the egg of their phoenix hatchling to keep it warm.  The phoenix hatchling, seen glowing with an orange, lava-like glow, is seen rustling about within the egg--cracks appear, lava trickles down the outer shell.  Then with a violent shudder and Earthquake, the phoenix bursts through--hellspawn with fiery eyes burning with the lust of power, death, vicious torture--the deliverer of pain and sorrow, now with its wings outstretched, trails of smoke streaming off as it soars to wage its WAR OF TERROR will claim the Earth as its own, and all of the New World Order will complete its BLOOD FEAST, ripping and tearing every remnant of freedom from the world, stamping it out with millions of jackbooted high tech thugs who love to feel you die as they rip the throats and hearts out of the disgusting, weak, pathetic freedom lovers.  OBAMA WAS AWARDED THIS BECAUSE HIS BOSSES ARE COMIN' TO PUT US ALL IN THE CAMPS!

[bigron]

Upside Down World

Warmonger Wins Peace Prize


By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts10092009.html

It took 25 years longer than George Orwell thought for the slogans of 1984 to become reality.

“War is Peace,” “Freedom is Slavery,” “Ignorance is Strength.”

I would add, “Lie is Truth.”

The Nobel Committee has awarded the 2009 Peace Prize to President Obama, the person who started a new war in Pakistan, upped the war in Afghanistan, and continues to threaten Iran with attack unless Iran does what the US government demands and relinquishes its rights as a signatory to the non-proliferation treaty.

The Nobel committee chairman, Thorbjoern Jagland said, “Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future.”

Obama, the committee gushed, has created “a new climate in international politics.”

Tell that to the 2 million displaced Pakistanis and the unknown numbers of dead ones that Obama has racked up in his few months in office. Tell that to the Afghans where civilian deaths continue to mount as Obama’s “war of necessity” drones on indeterminably.

No Bush policy has changed. Iraq is still occupied. The Guantanamo torture prison is still functioning. Rendition and assassinations are still occurring. Spying on Americans without warrants is still the order of the day. Civil liberties are continuing to be violated in the name of Oceania’s “war on terror.”

Apparently, the Nobel committee is suffering from the delusion that, being a minority, Obama is going to put a stop to Western hegemony over darker-skinned peoples.

The non-cynical can say that the Nobel committee is seizing on Obama’s rhetoric to lock him into the pursuit of peace instead of war. We can all hope that it works. But the more likely result is that the award has made “War is Peace” the reality.

Obama has done nothing to hold the criminal Bush regime to account, and the Obama administration has bribed and threatened the Palestinian Authority to go along with the US/Israeli plan to deep-six the UN’s Goldstone Report on Israeli war crimes committed during Israel’s inhuman military attack on the defenseless civilian population in the Gaza Ghetto.

The US Ministry of Truth is delivering the Obama administration’s propaganda that Iran only notified the IAEA of its “secret” new nuclear facility because Iran discovered that US intelligence had discovered the “secret” facility. This propaganda is designed to undercut the fact of Iran’s compliance with the Safeguards Agreement and to continue the momentum for a military attack on Iran.

The Nobel committee has placed all its hopes on a bit of skin color.

“War is Peace” is now the position of the formerly antiwar organization, Code Pink.
Code Pink has decided that women’s rights are worth a war in Afghanistan.

When justifications for war become almost endless--oil, hegemony, women’s rights, democracy, revenge for 9/11, denying bases to al Qaeda and protecting against terrorists--war becomes the path to peace.

The Nobel committee has bestowed the prestige of its Peace Prize on Newspeak and Doublethink.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com

[bigron]

Weekend Edition
October 9-11, 2009

Make War, Call It Peace

The WTF Prize


By DAVE LINDORFF

It’s not as much of a travesty as when Henry Kissinger, a war criminal of the first order who was an architect of the latter stages of the Indochina War, and was personally responsible for the slaughter of well over a million innocent people, won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1973, while that war was still raging, but the awarding of the latest Nobel Peace Prize to President Barack Obama is travesty enough.

We’re talking about a man whose practically first act upon taking office early this year was to escalate the ugly and pointless war in Afghanistan with the addition of some 20,000 troops, and who, even as the Nobel committee was discussing his award, was meeting with his military and political advisors to consider expanding that war even further, both in Afghanistan and across the border into Pakistan.

The Nobel Committee claimed that during Obama’s short period as president, the US “is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened."

Well, certainly when compared to the prior presidency of George W. Bush, that statement is correct, but that’s not saying much. After all, under President Obama, Guantanamo’s terrorist prison is still in operation and is holding people whom even the government admits are guilty of nothing. Under President Obama, the US has also blocked the Goldstone Report which condemns Israel of war crimes in its recent assault on Gaza. And under Obama, the US military in Afghanistan has continued to slaughter disproportionate numbers of civilians through its wanton use of aerial bombardment, pilotless Predator drones, and antipersonnel weaponry.

President Obama may have, as the Nobel Committee states, put forward a vision of nuclear disarmament, but his administration at the same time continues to refuse to sign the international anti-landmine treaty (putting America in the wretched company of just Russia, India and China). And under Obama, the US continues its role as not only the leading producer and exporter of arms, but also as the major initiator of wars in the world.  Under Obama the US continues to outspend the rest of the world’s nations combined on its military. And don’t forget, Obama, like President Bush before him, continues to threaten to attack Iran, over that nation’s alleged nuclear weapons program—a program the very existence of which remains highly debatable.

As for climate change policy, President Obama in practice has taken a largely hands-off approach to getting Congress to act, not using his considerable political clout to force action on climate change legislation. It is now conceded that the US will go to the international climate conference in December with no bill passed to limit or reduce the nation’s CO2 emissions.  Nor is the Obama administration likely to push for any significant program of CO2 reductions in the future.

Nominations for this year’s Nobel Peace Prize closed on Feb. 1, less than two weeks after Obama took the oath of office as President, but the Nobel Committee in Norway had a good nine months since then to observe this president’s actions—and his lack of actions—on the key issues weighing on the decision. In the end, committee members were bamboozled by this president’s rhetoric of hope just as were the American people during the election campaign.  As the committee wrote in announcing its decision: "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future."

If Nobel Peace prizes are being awarded to people who are simply giving the world hope, surely the judges could have found any number of worthy speechifiers. Hell, even the dictatorial leaders of China and North Korea can make flowery speeches about peace and human dignity. More to the point, the committee had under consideration at least two far more deserving nominees for the award who were actually acting at great personal risk to further peace and human rights: Chinese freedom-fighter Hu Jia and Afghani women’s rights advocate Simi Samar.  It is an insult to the memory of former award winners like the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jody Williams, Nelson Mandela, Aung San Suu Kyi the Dalai Lama, Lech Walesa, and others who put their lives and careers on the line to struggle for peace and human dignity to give this award to a man who has accomplished so little, and who, in fact, in his short time in office, has managed to expand one war, to block the international condemnation of the brutality of another, and who has done nothing to reverse his own country’s leading role as a promoter of war and international violence.

Henry Kissinger hung his blood-drenched Nobel Peace Award on his office wall on Wall Street and continued to make obscene sums of money off human suffering in his dotage. One can only hope (ah, that intoxicating word!) that President Obama will take his award seriously, and will use his new status as official man of peace to halt America’s campaign of violence in Afghanistan, calling a regional peace conference to settle that conflict instead of simply expanding the war, that he will announce a major cut in American military spending and a halt to arms exports, that he will sign the landmine treaty and voluntarily end the production and use of antipersonnel weapons of all kinds, and that he will finally have the US join the International Criminal Court of Justice.

Right. Now that’s the audacity of hope.

Dave Lindorff  is a Philadelphia-based journalist and columnist. His latest book is “The Case for Impeachment” (St. Martin’s Press, 2006 and now available in paperback). He can be reached at dlindorff@mindspring.com

[Overcast]

Nobel Prize isn't about innovation or accomplishments - it's about politics.

No one really cares except for those elite types and socialist types who like to stroke their own ego.

[Monkeypox]

Just when many people (even SNL) were starting to openly criticize Obama for his do-nothing Presidency , he gets a surprise Nobel Peace Prize.

Interesting, isn't it?

[reed026]

speaking of GM , I tried looking it up on the stock market and it was no longer listed.  searched under GM, General motors  all I did not search under was Government motors.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MTLQQ.PK

[Dig]

Just when many people (even SNL) were starting to openly criticize Obama for his do-nothing Presidency , he gets a surprise Nobel Peace Prize.

Interesting, isn't it?

And just after the Prison Planet Forum released this scientific poll....

NEW Prison Planet Forum 'SCIENTIFIC' SURVEY WITH REGISTERED AMERICAN VOTERS FINDS OBAMA APPROVAL RATING PLUMMETING

Barack Obama Approval Rating is less than 1%

The following survey was done between October 5th and October 7th, 2009.  All registered voters were met in person, all signed with photo identification, and voter registration cards. All registered voters were video taped during the survey, DNA and blood samples were sent to the Genome Project for further racial analysis.


All registered voters were asked the following questions:

Do you believe that a military strike on Iran is in the best interest of the United States of America:
100 registered voters said "NO"
0 registered voters said "YES"
0 registered voters said "NOT SURE"

Do you approve of the job that President Barack Obama is doing?
100 registered voters said "NO"
0 registered voters said "YES"
0 registered voters said "SOMEWHAT"
0 registered voters said "NOT SURE"

Who do you blame for the current financial crisis in the United States of America: PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH, CONGRESS, MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, BIG ENERGY, CAPITALISM, or FEDERAL RESERVE?
100 registered voters said "FEDERAL RESERVE"
0 registered voters said "PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA"
0 registered voters said "PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH"
0 registered voters said "CONGRESS"
0 registered voters said "MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX"
0 registered voters said "BIG ENERGY"
0 registered voters said "CAPITALISM"

How long should we continue to bomb babies in Iraq?
100 registered voters said we should stop bombing babies now
0 registered voters said we should continue bombing babies until the mission is complete
0 registered voters said they did not know

How long should we bomb babies in Afghanistan?
100 registered voters said we should stop bombing babies now
0 registered voters said we should continue bombing babies until the mission is complete
0 registered voters said they did not know

How long should we bomb babies in Pakistan?
100 registered voters said that we should stop bombing babies now
0 registered voters said we should continue bombing babies until the mission is complete
0 registered voters said they did not know

Should we investigate the events of 9/11?
100 registered voters said "YES"
0 registered voters said "NO"
0 registered voters said "NOT SURE"


Breakdown of the 100 registered voters that were surveyed:

Racial Identity
34% identified themselves as black
24% identified themselves as white
13% identified themselves as Asian (Far Eastern) American
11% identified themselves as Arab american
10% identified themselves as Hispanic
6% identified themselves as Indian American
2% did not want to answer what racial identity they identify with and just said "I am an American"

Religious Identity
24% identified themselves as Islamic
23% identified themselves as agnostic
18% identified themselves as Christian
11% identified themselves as Jewish
10% identified themselves as not believing in religion
6% identified themselves as Hindu
5% identified themselves as Buddhist
3% did not wish to identify their religious affiliation

Income
48% identified their income as being less than $29K per year
26% identified their income as being between $30K and $49K per year
16% identified their income as being between $50K and $99K per year
9% identified their income as being between $100K and $999K per year
1% identified their income as being $1 million per year and above

Party affiliation
67% identified themselves as a member of the Democratic Party
22% identified themselves as a member of the Republican Party
11% identified themselves as not having a party affiliation


After realizing that Lord Baron Evelyn de Rothschild's Associated Press just basically pulls numbers out of their f**king ass and then broadcasts it from every light post on the planet (adding to global warming heh heh), I decided to do my own poll because it is something anyone with a piece of paper, a pencil, a determination to deny feudal psychopaths a beach head, and a keyboard can do anywhere in the world.

HEY ROTHSCHILD'S ASSOCIATED PRESS...

PUBLISH THIS SURVEY! IT HAS MORE TRUTH THAN YOUR BULLSHIT CRAP MIND CONTROL SURVEY!

[Disclaimer: All poll results have a +/- range of error of 100%]

[rio]

I'm worried about how they keep building him up like this. At least there is an international, collective "WTF?!?" regarding the absolute absurdity of him winning this award.

[UK Lyn]

The insanity spreads, they'll be building statues for Clinton in Serbia next.

http://russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-10-09/bill-clinton-statue-kosovo.html

[Dig]

I'm worried about how they keep building him up like this. At least there is an international, collective "WTF?!?" regarding the absolute absurdity of him winning this award.

I am glad finally the globalist psycho genocidal maniacs are coming out from behind the curtains. The banksters own the Nobel prize and although Obama's ratings are skidding across the floor right now, the globalists are the only ones pushing him up. Now the world citizenry sees that this is a globalist puppet, not even a popular president anymore.

It is becoming more obvious every day that the US like many other countries is occupied by a monolithic conspiracy of bean counters enslaving the world.

[jofortruth]

The elite, out of desperation, are looking like complete fools with every step they take. The old Elite men's brains are wearing out, as shown by this stupid stunt! 

What they've done is totally discredit some of the legitimate winners of a Nobel Prize (there are a few) by lauding bogus winners like Obama, Al Gore, and others.

hahahaha What fools!

[glorydays]

If Kissinger can get a Nobel, so can Obama.

[xfahctor]

The insanity spreads, they'll be building statues for Clinton in Serbia next.

http://russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-10-09/bill-clinton-statue-kosovo.html

interesting thought for you to exand on this one....building him up as much as possible to what?, "martyr" him maybe? the higher a pedistal he sits on if they pull an Oswald, the more rabid the public reaction and the harder the crack down.

[TheNatural]

The man standing in the background grinning as Torbjørn Jagland announced Obama the winner is, Geir Lundestad, Director, Norwegian Nobel Institute; Secretary, Norwegian Nobel Committee and he attended the Bilderberg conference in 2005.

I thought he retired from the Nobel comittee. Maybe he is just an "advisor"?

[Dig]

Another $636 Billion to blow up babies in caves...OOOO-BBBAAAA-MMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

PEACE

PEACE

PEACE!!!

Senate Passes $636 Billion Military Bill
Bill Includes $128.2 Billion for Iraq, Afghan Wars
by Jason Ditz, October 06, 2009
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The Senate today voted 93-7 in favor of the $636 billion defense appropriations bill to provide funding to the US military over the fiscal year beginning this month.

The bill includes $128.2 billion in funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and bars President Obama from transferring any of the suspects at Guantanamo Bay to the US for trials.

Two of the Senators voting against the bill, Sens. McCain and Feingold, objected to the $2.5 billion in continued funding for C-17 military aircraft. The Pentagon has said it doesn’t want the aircraft, and the Obama Administration has sought to cancel the funding for them.

Sen. Feingold was the only Democrat to vote against the bill. The six Republicans included Sens. McCain, Enzi, Coburn, Demint, Barrasso, and Graham.

http://news.antiwar.com/2009/10/06/senate-passes-636-billion-military-bill/

[TheNatural]

"Appearance at Bilderberg 2005 of a Nobel Peace Prize Committee Chairman Geir Lundestad is likely to mean, according to sources familiar with the discussion, a full-court press by the American, British and Israeli delegation on the Nobel committee in preventing an Israeli nuclear technician, Mordechai Vanunu, from winning the coveted award. Vanunu spent 18 years in an Israeli prison—11 and a half of them in solitary confinement—for providing evidence of Israel's nuclear arsenal to a British newspaper in 1986. Should Vanunu win the Nobel for Peace, it would bring uncomfortable attention to the Israeli nuclear arsenal, especially in the face of growing evidence that Israel and the United States are about to punish Iran for trying to develop their own nuclear weapons. Strong pressure was applied on Lundestad not to choose Hans Blix, UN weapons inspector in Iraq, nor Mohamed El Baradei, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, a man President Bush tried to remove for not being tough enough on Iran."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/080605palmoftheirhands.htm