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« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2009, 06:37:45 PM »

Somebody has to say it so I will.   Grin  Project Bluebeam?  Does this tie in anyway?
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« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2009, 06:38:34 PM »

Somebody has to say it so I will.   Grin  Project Bluebeam?  Does this tie in anyway?
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« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2009, 06:39:05 PM »

Well said, but I think this story first popped up here MONTHS ago.

Yep.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=111757.0
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« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2009, 06:39:10 PM »

hmm.. colonizing space so we can repeat this shit all over? While it might be a great idea, we as civilization are doomed to constantly repeat itself as the unwashed masses do not, I REPEAT, DO NOT open their eyes see their surrounds and read the real history of recorded civilization.

One can only go so far. I, myself, would enjoy an adventure like this. However, my feelings just seem to loom around the whole HALO story lines of how this story ends.



History repeats, yes, but we have the Internet this time, and that's a mega difference. Never has any generation had so much information and communication techniques at their fingertips as we do today. Who wins control of the Internet? Us or them?
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« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2009, 06:39:57 PM »

Somebody has to say it so I will.   Grin  Project Bluebeam?  Does this tie in anyway?
Prediction time: With in a weak of this event, there will be pictures on the net of "the devil" in the dust plume created from the impact.
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« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2009, 06:40:24 PM »

If NASA bomb the moon we are officially in war with ET. Or Reptilians are attacking some Aldebaran resistance there.  
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« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2009, 06:41:49 PM »

Prediction time: With in a weak of this event, there will be pictures on the net of "the devil" in the dust plume created from the impact.

Good one!
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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2009, 06:43:23 PM »

Good one!
and if there isn't, then dammit I'm gonna photoshop one, up load it and see how far it goes.....lol
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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2009, 07:06:03 PM »

History repeats, yes, but we have the Internet this time, and that's a mega difference. Never has any generation had so much information and communication techniques at their fingertips as we do today. Who wins control of the Internet? Us or them?

regardless with this much information, how many people are truly awake? A majority of the people whom I know and try to awaken will normally just sit there with the fluoride face jumping at the chance to call me a lunatic.

I'll just say, let us hope that NASA's rocket isn't going to f**k the moon up tomorrow night.
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« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2009, 07:10:57 PM »

regardless with this much information, how many people are truly awake? A majority of the people whom I know and try to awaken will normally just sit there with the fluoride face jumping at the chance to call me a lunatic.

I'll just say, let us hope that NASA's rocket isn't going to f**k the moon up tomorrow night.

Amen, brotha!

I'm wondering what the REAL reason NASA is going up there!

Interesting how MSM isn't all over something like this!

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« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2009, 07:13:36 PM »

Who is "we"?

I'd take it one step further and say no government control or management of outer space. How's it any different than the settling of the North American West? Just let it happen naturally.

Yeah, i wouldnt be opposed to that.  If we gave out charters, the colonists, in a few decades, if not centuries, would end up rebelling against us anyways just like we did to the British.
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« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2009, 07:27:39 PM »

hmm.. colonizing space so we can repeat this shit all over? While it might be a great idea, we as civilization are doomed to constantly repeat itself as the unwashed masses do not, I REPEAT, DO NOT open their eyes see their surrounds and read the real history of recorded civilization.

One can only go so far. I, myself, would enjoy an adventure like this. However, my feelings just seem to loom around the whole HALO story lines of how this story ends.



Only in your euro/elitist movie... the movie I'm talking about is one that is progenitored by the founding fathers of THIS country... of real founding fathers... before their demonization by the history Channel, and the elitist ass wipes in Washington common district of criminals, and the crown heads of European degeneration...

Everything that you've mentioned, all of those attitudes... they have been fostered by the greedy usurpers who now process our land, and wish to trash it because they are angry at the world that they do not live forever... greedy f*cks... you can't know the end of the story... we aren't there yet, and if I have anything to say about it we won't be there for a long time, because the eternal is in control of the story I'm reading... that John of Patmos story... it ain't in it!

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« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2009, 07:34:00 PM »

^ You're a Deist?  Nice to meet you.  *shakes hand*
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« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2009, 07:44:20 PM »

Amen, brotha!

I'm wondering what the REAL reason NASA is going up there!

Interesting how MSM isn't all over something like this!



MSM is more so on and about the H1N1 scare, Afghanistan and Obaaaammmmaaaa.

Blah. Does anyone know if they happened to put out schematics for the rocket / craft they sent to the moon? I'd like to look over them

Here is a quick reference if you want to watch this live:
http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/lcross-centaur-separation/

I can't seem to find any specifics on the Centaur system, best I could find was a 132 page document about rockets which contained a lot of info I already know about.

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/58269main_Rockets.pdf

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Only in your euro/elitist movie... the movie I'm talking about is one that is progenitored by the founding fathers of THIS country... of real founding fathers... before their demonization by the history Channel, and the elitist ass wipes in Washington common district of criminals, and the crown heads of European degeneration...

Everything that you've mentioned, all of those attitudes... they have been fostered by the greedy usurpers who now process our land, and wish to trash it because they are angry at the world that they do not live forever... greedy f*cks... you can't know the end of the story... we aren't there yet, and if I have anything to say about it we won't be there for a long time, because the eternal is in control of the story I'm reading... that John of Patmos story... it ain't in it!

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Care to share your story?

My Euro/Elitist movie is nothing? Halo is a series of games / books done by Bungie. A lot of the technology that happens in the Halo series has already happened. It's here my friend.

http://www.popsci.com/node/20697

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« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2009, 07:47:07 PM »

and if there isn't, then dammit I'm gonna photoshop one, up load it and see how far it goes.....lol

Well we'll at least damned well know the source of it!
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« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2009, 07:49:38 PM »

regardless with this much information, how many people are truly awake? A majority of the people whom I know and try to awaken will normally just sit there with the fluoride face jumping at the chance to call me a lunatic.

I'll just say, let us hope that NASA's rocket isn't going to f**k the moon up tomorrow night.

Same here, on the zombieism, but I think we just need more time. I mean just look at the growing insecurity towards the H1N1 vaccine. It's a battle of time.
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« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2009, 07:51:07 PM »

Yeah, i wouldnt be opposed to that.  If we gave out charters, the colonists, in a few decades, if not centuries, would end up rebelling against us anyways just like we did to the British.

But again who the f**k is the "we"?
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« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2009, 08:01:24 PM »

the first thing I thought of when I heard this was a TV show a few years back called "Three Moons over Milford."  As asteroid hit the moon, splitting it in three pieces and everyone thinks the world is about to end.

http://sharetv.org/shows/three_moons_over_milford





its on HULU

http://www.hulu.com/watch/100794/three-moons-over-milford-pilot

im watching as just posted this
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« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2009, 08:01:29 PM »

What if they are nuking the moon tomorrow. What if they plan on trying to shatter it.... it is theoretically possible, it is said to be hollow. 

 What a false flag attack this would be.... Bin Laden found a way to hijack into NASA and accelerated the moon probe to 1000x the speed NASA planned on. Shattering the moon destroying tides and causing more global warming.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2009, 08:03:14 PM »

The Moon can't crack - I've been there its nice this time of year.

 Humans assume that we can change the massive planets.
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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2009, 08:23:21 PM »

I'm just waiting for Al Gore to step up and say that this is bad for the Moon somehow...
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« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2009, 08:34:31 PM »

What I don't understand is what I've read about there being natural asteroid impacts that have been larger than what NASA is doing now...I would think if that were the case, water would already have been uncovered...no?  Huh
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« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2009, 08:51:52 PM »

What I don't understand is what I've read about there being natural asteroid impacts that have been larger than what NASA is doing now...I would think if that were the case, water would already have been uncovered...no?  Huh
no, because we never looked for it in that manner, in these areas, because we didn't track them to watch. so we are now setting up such a collision so we can do this as a controlled productive experiment. we did the same thing a few years ago tp a comet and the results were amazing.
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« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2009, 09:06:33 PM »

Isn't anyone else worried about how the Moon Martians will react to an unwarranted preemptive strike?
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« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2009, 09:10:28 PM »

Isn't anyone else worried about how the Moon Martians will react to an unwarranted preemptive strike?
not as much as the venusian saturnians.
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« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2009, 09:23:47 PM »

not as much as the venusian saturnians.
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Please. They're a bunch of p*ssies. That's why they live on Saturn. boo
The Moon Martians are the ones we need to worry about. You think the NWO is hardcore evil? You ain't seen nothing till you've seen a pissed off moon martian tap dancing on your face.
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« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2009, 09:44:51 PM »

^ You're a Deist?  Nice to meet you.  *shakes hand*

Not really... an American Indian/Taoist/Christian... who pursued hands-on astronomy, optics, and practical astrophysics, psychology and comparative religious philosophy... not at all a specialist... You have to rely on too many others if you are a specialists... I prefer being a general systems analyst, and exchange ideas with those of like mind and experience in each of our small segment, feeling of the universal elephant...

Every time Ben Franklin is called a diest.... I'm sure he spins once or twice in his grave... and Thomas Jefferson... the man who penned my signature quote... I'm sure he spins as well.

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« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2009, 09:52:32 PM »

Not really... an American Indian/Taoist/Christian... who pursued hands-on astronomy, optics, and practical astrophysics, psychology and comparative religious philosophy... not at all a specialist... You have to rely on too many others if you are a specialists... I prefer being a general systems analyst, and exchange ideas with those of like mind and experience in each of our small segment, feeling of the universal elephant...

Every time Ben Franklin is called a diest.... I'm sure he spins once or twice in his grave... and Thomas Jefferson... the man who penned my signature quote... I'm sure he spins as well.

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Are you going to be watching this? are you far west enough to catch it? if so, ya gotta get pics, that would be awesome.
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« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2009, 10:06:39 PM »

What if they are nuking the moon tomorrow. What if they plan on trying to shatter it.... it is theoretically possible, it is said to be hollow.  

 What a false flag attack this would be.... Bin Laden found a way to hijack into NASA and accelerated the moon probe to 1000x the speed NASA planned on. Shattering the moon destroying tides and causing more global warming.  Roll Eyes

Ya... and what if dogs had square ass holes..? They would shit bricks!

Y'all need to get serious about understanding things geographical, and astronomical, which means you would have to understand how things are measured, how hypotheses are formulated, and then used to produce the working tools that measure the suppositions that created the thought processes in the first place. Simple things, like how you can determine mass and structure by determining acceleration, using the understanding of the effects of gravity and the other universal forces on the acceleration. If three quarters of the American population had been educated to what was the eighth grade level in 1965 today... we would not have the problem we are having making people understand that 9/11 was not caused by airplanes...

Anyone who believes the moon or the earth is hollow, and I mean hollow hollow... needs to push themselves away from the tube, and the video gaming Board, and stop being influenced by fantasy as if it were reality, and then step outside, and try to understand the world around them. No wonder 90% of the people under the age of 30 can only communicate with one another on a level of sports, sex, and drugs... everything else is the tube, and the latest video game. The real world is much more interesting.

I will check in again after the circle jerk is over here... and we will see if a few of you have actually read the article that was published August 18 of 2006 by NASA linked in the first post, that tells how, and what they hope to accomplish with this. The fact that the news media has decided to spin it as the bombing of the moon... and most of the idiots that read it automatically equate it with the bombing of the moon, makes me want to puke!

Most of you after you read this post, will avoid this thread like the plague... because you might F*CKing learn something! Angry

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« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2009, 10:12:42 PM »

Are you going to be watching this? are you far west enough to catch it? if so, ya gotta get pics, that would be awesome.

I was hoping to... but as luck would have it we are experiencing one of those wonderful early winter blizzards as I type... it doesn't look like I will be seeing much for the rest of the evening until midday tomorrow... I definitely have the equipment ready though...it happens here at 5:30 AM MT... and it will be dark out....

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« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2009, 10:32:50 PM »

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_46.htm
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« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2009, 10:35:07 PM »

Wait a minute!

Didn't the London Times (as well as AJ) ALREADY way there is ice on the moon according to India!

This all must be tying in somehow.

Yes India discovered it not more than a moth ago!  I posted the story here
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=136790.msg822478#msg822478

They chemtrailed the hell out of today so I couldn't watch
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« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2009, 10:39:42 PM »

You know JT, you call me out by saying I can't speak anything other fiction. I was merely pointing out a flaw in your representation. DARPA has funded many of these exoskeletons for future use in war. Plain and simple, it is where fiction and reality have started coming together.

I read the original NASA article. Basically they system is set up into two parts, you have the LCROSS system which separated from the Centaur system tonight. The Centaur will make it's first impact in the morning in which LCROSS will follow. The LCROSS impact is the one that scientists on the ground hope to use high powered telescopes to take pictures of along with data sent back prior to LCROSS crashing to determine if water / ice is actually in a surface crater at the pole of the moon.

Now we have sent one object that is going about 7.3 times the speed of sound to the moon that has split into two different mechanisms. Both of which are going to hit the pole of the moon. That is where my concern comes from. It's been proven that the moon's orbit around our planet has been consistently moving outward overtime, my concern is that this could possibly either cause it to go faster or slower. That is where my skepticism comes in at.

In an earlier reply, I asked for your "story" since you boldly attack mine, when all I showed was that I had some concern over how this ends up. Fiction, oddly can become reality at an alarming rate. Setting up a Moon Colony is essentially the beginning of Halo, to deploy UN Like marines to any troubled part of the world at a moment's notice. See, I choose to use my own life stories with things I've experienced, read, or information gained from others to my advantage. Guess in doing such, that is not OK with you, even though you do the same.

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« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2009, 10:39:55 PM »

I was hoping to... but as luck would have it we are experiencing one of those wonderful early winter blizzards as I type... it doesn't look like I will be seeing much for the rest of the evening until midday tomorrow... I definitely have the equipment ready though...it happens here at 5:30 AM MT... and it will be dark out....

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« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2009, 10:45:48 PM »




Now we have sent one object that is going about 7.3 times the speed of sound to the moon that has split into two different mechanisms. Both of which are going to hit the pole of the moon. That is where my concern comes from. It's been proven that the moon's orbit around our planet has been consistently moving outward overtime, my concern is that this could possibly either cause it to go faster or slower. That is where my skepticism comes in at.


Ok, then consider it firing two pea shooters at mt everast instead of one. Even at that speed, its inconsiquential and pretty much a mosquito bite. The moons orbit spiral has to do more with centrifgual force and gravity escape rather than things knocking it about.
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Ok, then consider it firing two pea shooters at mt everast instead of one. Even at that speed, its inconsiquential and pretty much a mosquito bite. The moons orbit spiral has to do more with centrifgual force and gravity escape rather than things knocking it about.

You're getting it all wrong my friend. Try shooting those "pea shooters" at the same amount of speed into the poles of earth and see what happens. This is something that I don't even know, it's never been tested, and have only seen theories about it in science fiction.
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« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2009, 10:49:05 PM »

Let us think about it this way:  You reap what you sow.  We certainly would not want the same to be sent to our poles.
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« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2009, 10:55:00 PM »

You're getting it all wrong my friend. Try shooting those "pea shooters" at the same amount of speed into the poles of earth and see what happens. This is something that I don't even know, it's never been tested, and have only seen theories about it in science fiction.
Probably even less, since the earth has even more mass, though we have never tested nukes on either of our own poles, there is nothing that demonstrates or suggests it would have any more effect than the blasts we have put anywhere else. this realy doesn't even come close to many of the nukes we have tested here either. the forces needed to move the moon by a hit would be unimaginable and would require a pretty large object.
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« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2009, 11:03:51 PM »


ROFL! Great find!
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« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2009, 11:12:16 PM »

Probably even less, since the earth has even more mass, though we have never tested nukes on either of our own poles, there is nothing that demonstrates or suggests it would have any more effect than the blasts we have put anywhere else. this realy doesn't even come close to many of the nukes we have tested here either. the forces needed to move the moon by a hit would be unimaginable and would require a pretty large object.

See this is what has me worried even though we're essentially striking the moon with a Ford 150 (the Centaur system) and then my Ford 150's Engine (LCROSS)  (trying to break it down to simple science) we do not know how much of an impact this would be the the ecosystem of earth. It may be minute, and it may not be. All we can do is trust that NASA made the right calculations. We'll all find out in due time.

All I'm curious about is what the results of this will be, I most certainly wouldn't want to upset the balance of nature in its own right.
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