Windows 7

[Chris2005]

So, anyone who has tried Windows 7 or seen it in action, what do you think of it?

I want to see some opinions, and compare notes to like Vista, etc.

I use Windows 7, and I think it's the best thing since if not better than XP.

Also, check out my website:
http://flightsim9.hostoi.com/website/index.htm

Open to all.

[grunt]

I ran it virtually in Virtual Box and was not impressed. It looked like a nifty XP, which is what Vista was. Have fun getting hacked and getting viruses. And paying for your software.

[Chris2005]

I ran it virtually in Virtual Box and was not impressed. It looked like a nifty XP, which is what Vista was. Have fun getting hacked and getting viruses. And paying for your software.

lol, I also ran it in Virtual Box before I upgraded, while under the hog known as Vista, and it ran exceptionally well given that I am running on a Pentium 4, and 4GB RAM, while only 1GB of RAM is dedicated to the virtual machine, of course running any OS in a virtual machine lowers it's performance, because you can't allocate the full system's resources to the guest OS, as the host OS needs resources as well, plus VM's such as Virtual Box don't allow the full GFX acceleration, as you would get running the OS on it's own.

Actually, I haven't had any kind of internet threats or infections since I switched from using XP.

Also, the software I use, such as my CG application isn't made for anything other than Windows.

My motherboard has an anti-hijacking thing on it, plus my internet connection is encrypted, and I have Windows Firewall, Windows Defender, and AVG Anti-virus.

[ridebmx]

its ok

it wont save my settings after i shutdown though

and i had to mess with a bunch of stuff to make it work how  i like it

so stupid how they have quicklaunch disabled by default

[Lucian Solaris]

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[Chris2005]

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That is, for what?

[Berminator]

I wouldn't be a big deal for me to try it, i run xp64 right now and i like Dx10
and the ability to use heaps of RAM.

I would want a 64bit version though.

[Chris2005]

@ridebmx

Windows 7?

I hear many problems, that I don't seem to have.

Windows 7 doesn't have a quick launch feature anymore, it has the new Pin to Task Bar buttons, etc, at least late beta, and RC, as well as the RTM build, which is the final build doesn't, what build are you using?

Well, even in 98 and later, that have quick launch it's disabled by default on first boot.

A few pictures of Windows 7, I have uploaded to myspace:









It's similar to Vista, but it's been completely recoded and everything, it takes up about 20GB less space, despite having more in it, than Vista.

[Chris2005]

I wouldn't be a big deal for me to try it, i run xp64 right now and i like Dx10
and the ability to use heaps of RAM.

Well, XP 64bit isn't even supported anymore, only the 32bit versions of XP are.

Windows 7 comes with DirectX 11.

I also use 32bit, as I hear many issues with 64bit.

[Berminator]

Dx11 sounds interesting but i like the stability of 64bit.

[Chris2005]

Dx11 sounds interesting but i like the stability of 64bit.

I hear to many problems with 64bit, software and hardware wise, mainly 3rd party companies.

[Berminator]

I hear to many problems with 64bit, software and hardware wise, mainly 3rd party companies.

I know but ya can't beat it, its like turning your screen refresh rate from 60 to 85 Mhz.
The screen seems that much sharper and more solid.

[Chris2005]

I know but ya can't beat it, its like turning your screen refresh rate from 60 to 85 Mhz.
The screen seems that much sharper and more solid.

Well, I'll stick to 32bit, I am not ready for the all the 64bit troubles, plus, I don't do anything that really require over 4GB.

[unacceptable]

I tried the RC of windows 7

I'm sick of the mentality that newer is better.  It is NOT.  The software gets bloated each time, which requires you to update your hardware.  Am I really supposed to believe that XP is outdated and should upgrade to a superior windows 7.

How long will this marketing go on for?  I'm not falling for it. 

I'm not leaving XP until I absolutely need to.  Everything runs just fine on my version.

[Chris2005]

I tried the RC of windows 7

I'm sick of the mentality that newer is better.  It is NOT.  The software gets bloated each time, which requires you to update your hardware.  Am I really supposed to believe that XP is outdated and should upgrade to a superior windows 7.

How long will this marketing go on for?  I'm not falling for it. 

I'm not leaving XP until I absolutely need to.  Everything runs just fine on my version.

hmmm, I am still using the same single cored Pentium 4 w/ HT as when I used XP, and I don't see any decrease in speed, in fact Windows 7 performs faster than XP, I though had to upgrade for Vista, but Vista to Windows 7, no upgrades needed for me, I ran Windows 7 in Virtual Box with 1GB dedicated RAM, and I got about a 25 second boot, I get an even faster boot running Windows natively.

Windows XP 32bit support will go until 2014.

[Whistler®]

Windows 7 spies on you    

That being said I run a quad boot XPx86, XPx64, Win7 Enterprise x64 and Backtrack.

7 is nice and smooth, fast and has many useful new features and is an up 2 date OS, but it spies on you...not cool and is set up for generic users.

XP 64 is a great OS, balls ....just balls    must be a "windows" person to use properly.

XPx86 is my default OS does all the new fancy OS's do, is fast as hell, super stable and  can be VERY secure.

Backtrack..... well, ya know what that's for... I ♥ Backtrack  

IMO ... the Tiny7 group release is the way to go if you must use 7, other than that stick with XP.... (vista doesn't exist in my world) or try one of the tasty flavors of linux.

[CaptBebops]

64 bit requires a lot of new drivers, plug-ins and dlls for some applications.  A lot of software companies won't invest resources to develop them.   A program I developed required a third-party OCX that was shipped with the program so it could work with the other program.  That OCX won't work in 64 bit mode and the company that supplied it hasn't released a 64 bit version.

Those Windows 7 screens looked more Linuxy than I've seen Windows before but that might just be your configuration.

[Chris2005]

64 bit requires a lot of new drivers, plug-ins and dlls for some applications.  A lot of software companies won't invest resources to develop them.   A program I developed required a third-party OCX that was shipped with the program so it could work with the other program.  That OCX won't work in 64 bit mode and the company that supplied it hasn't released a 64 bit version.

Those Windows 7 screens looked more Linuxy than I've seen Windows before but that might just be your configuration.

Well, Windows 7 hasn't changed much in look, since Vista, the only immediate noticeable change is the taskbar.

Might be the wallpaper, because I have seen Linux, and I don't see any similarities, if anything, Linux, Ubuntu, and OSX look more alike between themselves than Windows does.

[Chris2005]

Windows 7 spies on you    

That being said I run a quad boot XPx86, XPx64, Win7 Enterprise x64 and Backtrack.

7 is nice and smooth, fast and has many useful new features and is an up 2 date OS, but it spies on you...not cool and is set up for generic users.

XP 64 is a great OS, balls ....just balls    must be a "windows" person to use properly.

XPx86 is my default OS does all the new fancy OS's do, is fast as hell, super stable and  can be VERY secure.

Backtrack..... well, ya know what that's for... I ♥ Backtrack  

IMO ... the Tiny7 group release is the way to go if you must use 7, other than that stick with XP.... (vista doesn't exist in my world) or try one of the tasty flavors of linux.

How does Windows 7 spy on the user?

I wouldn't use anything else, I thought I was going to stay with XP, and then I upgraded to Vista, and then I got Windows 7, and now I don't want to go with anything else or go back.

[nustada]

I hear to many problems with 64bit, software and hardware wise, mainly 3rd party companies.

You may hear that.  I have used just about every major build of OS there is, and xp64 by far has been the most stable. However stability has more to do with the makers of the drivers than the OS itself. I think just by making hardware venders having to redo their drivers, but not having them wildly different, is what makes it stable more than anything. I think its silly to blame an OS for not supporting software that it explicitly states it wont support (16 bit on 64).

[nustada]

How does Windows 7 spy on the user?

I wouldn't use anything else, I thought I was going to stay with XP, and then I upgraded to Vista, and then I got Windows 7, and now I don't want to go with anything else or go back.

Its easy to find out. Get a sniffer program, root kit analyser and so on. I haven't used OS 7 enough to bother, yet.

[Chris2005]

Its easy to find out. Get a sniffer program, root kit analyser and so on. I haven't used OS 7 enough to bother, yet.

My antivirus comes with a rootkit tool, etc, nothing detected.

"OS7," don't you mean "Windows 7," OS7 is a old version of Mac OS Classic, most recent stable build was April 7, 1997, and it's not MS Windows 7.

[nustada]

Also to contrast my points above. For anybody who can avoid supporting billy boy baphemet, go for it! I think Gates and friends are pure evil, but professionally I cannot swim against the tide.

[nustada]

My antivirus comes with a rootkit tool, etc, nothing detected.

"OS7," don't you mean "Windows 7," OS7 is a old version of Mac OS Classic, most recent stable build was April 7, 1997, and it's not MS Windows 7.

Don't trust your antivirus. Get an analyzer, that lets you decide what is bad. My conspiracy bone tells me norton and mccafe originate most the scourges.

[Chris2005]

Don't trust your antivirus. Get an analyzer, that lets you decide what is bad. My conspiracy bone tells me norton and mccafe originate most the scourges.

lol, I'll trust my a/v after all last time I checked it's used by 4 million people, of course, why don't I have to worry, I don't do anything illegal.

Norton is a virus in itself when it comes to performance on the system, I have used all sorts of programs, and AVG seems to be best for me.

[Chris2005]

Also to contrast my points above. For anybody who can avoid supporting billy boy baphemet, go for it! I think Gates and friends are pure evil, but professionally I cannot swim against the tide.

I don't support Bill Gates as he is not the CEO of MS anymore.

I respect Bill's success at developing the #1 used operating system, and I wouldn't use anything other than Windows, as the software I have grown to use, only is made for Windows.

[Berminator]

I don't support Bill Gates as he is not the CEO of MS anymore.

I respect Bill's success at developing the #1 used operating system, and I wouldn't use anything other than Windows, as the software I have grown to use, only is made for Windows.

Bill was given Microsoft by ibm.

[nustada]

I don't support Bill Gates as he is not the CEO of MS anymore.

I respect Bill's success at developing the #1 used operating system, and I wouldn't use anything other than Windows, as the software I have grown to use, only is made for Windows.

He did not develop it. Microsoft and friends are a major cash cow for eugenics operations. Every time somebody buys a Microsoft product. A young african girl is sterilized and given aids. Through the "charities" that they support.

[Chris2005]

He did not develop it. Microsoft and friends are a major cash cow for eugenics operations. Every time somebody buys a Microsoft product. A young african girl is sterilized and given aids. Through the "charities" that they support.

Bill Gates stole the Windows idea from Jobs, but since Jobs didn't have it patented, oh well.

Well, some people need Windows for what they do, period.

[Chris2005]

Bill was given Microsoft by ibm.

William Henry "Bill" Gates III is an American business magnate, philanthropist, and chairman of Microsoft, the software company he founded with Paul Allen. In 1980, IBM approached Microsoft to write the BASIC interpreter for its upcoming personal computer, the IBM PC. When IBM's representatives mentioned that they needed an operating system, Gates referred them to Digital Research (DRI), makers of the widely used CP/M operating system.

[nustada]

Bill Gates stole the Windows idea from Jobs, but since Jobs didn't have it patented, oh well.

Well, some people need Windows for what they do, period.

No he didn't.

You sure do like to buy their crappy lies don't you.

[Berminator]

William Henry "Bill" Gates III is an American business magnate, philanthropist, and chairman of Microsoft, the software company he founded with Paul Allen. In 1980, IBM approached Microsoft to write the BASIC interpreter for its upcoming personal computer, the IBM PC. When IBM's representatives mentioned that they needed an operating system, Gates referred them to Digital Research (DRI), makers of the widely used CP/M operating system.

IBM may not have given him it but someone did.

[bmanmcfly]

Don't trust your antivirus. Get an analyzer, that lets you decide what is bad. My conspiracy bone tells me norton and mccafe originate most the scourges.

Agreed... Seriously, to the person writing the virus, not only do you have to know how to write malicious code, but you also need to know how to make the program act maliciously while seeming benign enough that the virus scanners won't pick it up... but then you must also be sure that your code isn't close enough  to the 100's of thousands of other viruses that are already detectable with virus scanners....

Now, if virus scanners were more proactive then reactive in their scanning then you would just detect the groupings of actions a program does and to flag any program that has any of those characteristics, you know, things like attempting to close the virus scanner (which most newer virus's  manage to kill without problems).

Not to mention that it's profitable for virus companies to release a virus now and then, cause it promotes sales.

[Chris2005]

No he didn't.

You sure do like to buy their crappy lies don't you.

lol, well, it's hard to find the real truth, when it's so twisted, regardless of what Bill Gates is or does, I still prefer Windows, most of the applications and games I use are for Windows.

[Chris2005]

IBM may not have given him it but someone did.

Corporate espionage.

[Berminator]

Corporate espionage.

Chris it's worse than that the club these guys belong to require a personal death count of 1 mil more or less.

[Chris2005]

Agreed... Seriously, to the person writing the virus, not only do you have to know how to write malicious code, but you also need to know how to make the program act maliciously while seeming benign enough that the virus scanners won't pick it up... but then you must also be sure that your code isn't close enough  to the 100's of thousands of other viruses that are already detectable with virus scanners....

Now, if virus scanners were more proactive then reactive in their scanning then you would just detect the groupings of actions a program does and to flag any program that has any of those characteristics, you know, things like attempting to close the virus scanner (which most newer virus's  manage to kill without problems).

Not to mention that it's profitable for virus companies to release a virus now and then, cause it promotes sales.

Well, I have no problems, and I know they track what websites, etc. a person visits, and they provide the option to provide or not provide information about websites you visit, etc.

Of course like I said, I don't visit anything that's bad, I visit my website, my 2 myspaces, my 2 youtube channels, and the PrisonPlanet forums, mostly.

[Chris2005]

Chris it's worse than that the club these guys belong to require a personal death count of 1 mil more or less.

ok, this thread was started to get opinions on Windows 7, because I use it, and I just wanted some feedback to what other users think of it, if they have tried it, or have seen demonstrations of Windows 7, not to talk about how evil Bill Gates and company, or whoever is or supposedly is, I was really appalled when I found out Bill Gates has been targeted as a eugenics supporter, etc.

[Berminator]

We should be thankful monkeypox didn't blast us all for using such tripe.

[Chris2005]

We should be thankful monkeypox didn't blast us all for using such tripe.

Say what?