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« on: September 27, 2009, 06:05:29 AM » |
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I have a really hard time believing Tim Osman is still alive. If he was alive, there would be VIDEO, with a newspaper with today's date, and him mouthing off with a nice cave setting in the background. I am glad the boogeyman is still firing off quotes from his cave.
I am just not buying it. I would think that OSL being alive would be a humongous liability. I ordered what? I said what? Yeah, he's alive alright.
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Southern Patriot
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 08:33:02 AM » |
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Died in 2002 or 2003 in Pakistan from congestive heart failure as a result of chronic kidney disease. He was on dialysis in 2000 at a hospital in Dubai where he met with a CIA station chief and intelligence analyst. Pakistani, British, German, Israeli, and Saudi intelligence had all privately confirmed that he is dead. The only discrepancies are the dates. The last hold out is the US intelligence machine who have yet to find another effective saber rattler.
Back in the nineties when I was in intelligence, I could have told you where he wiped his ass everyday yet Clinton refused to give the go ahead to take him out back then.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 04:51:13 PM » |
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Back in the nineties when I was in intelligence, I could have told you where he wiped his ass everyday yet Clinton refused to give the go ahead to take him out back then. Very interesting Southern Patriot! And what brand of toilet paper?  For those who want more evidence for dealing with disinformation agents on message boards elsewhere on the topic of whether bin Laden is alive or not, try these snippets of info: Pakistan’s president, Pervez Musharraf said during an interview with CNN in January 2002: “I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a … kidney patient.” Refer: http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/01/18/gen.musharraf.binladen/Former Prime Minister of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto told David Frost during an interview on the 2nd of November 2007 – only a few weeks before she was assassinated, that bin Laden had been murdered. As you can see from the video at this link, Bhutto was assured of her information, and it was not challenged by the interviewer. Refer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9TgFurthermore, Professor David Ray Griffin, a highly-respected 9/11 researcher and the author of: The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9-11, has also concluded in a new book: Osama bin Laden: Dead Or Alive?, Refer: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13743 that bin Laden is most certainly dead, and very likely died in late-2001. According to Griffin, many US experts in counterterrorism and counterinsurgency came to this conclusion years ago, but their views, which do not serve the purposes of the warmongers, were ignored by the mainstream media. To see more evidence which points to Osama bin Laden being dead, go here: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.htmlIn an article entitled: ‘Western Governments Funding Taliban & Al-Qaeda To Kill U.S. Troops, Destabilize Countries,’ Paul Joseph Watson explains that current events in the Middle East are not as they are being portrayed by the mainstream media. Enemies are being manufactured to enable Western forces to look good while they commit crimes against humanity in the name of gaining control of resources, operating a global drugs trade and dominating regions. Groups like Al-Qa’ida and the Taliban are really in the pocket of the US Military-industrial complex, not Muslim extremists. Refer: http://www.infowars.com/western-governments-funding-taliban-al-qaeda-to-kill-us-troops-destabilize-countries/Related:Al Qaeda Doesn’t Exist – A documentary by James Corbett, (2008). http://www.alqaedadoesntexist.com/Orwell Rolls In His Grave – A documentary by Robert Kane Pappas about media corruption, (2004). http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1179175516550155628#FBI Says “No Hard Evidence to Link 9/11 to bin Laden. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htmThe 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions by Professor David Ray Griffin. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8765.htm |
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To be persuasive, we must be believable,
To be believable, we must be credible,
To be credible, we must be truthful.
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Southern Patriot
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 07:29:50 PM » |
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Excuse You!!!
Apparently you never heard of Able Danger, Anthony Shaffer, or the entire damn military intelligence community. I love it when a 12 year old moderator thinks they know everything. Check into passports out of Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, sf training of foreign nationals at Ft. Bragg, and the Bin Ladin Group's military contracts.
Tim Osmin is a smoke screen. It is a made up name used on one passport one time. If you knew half of what you thought you did, you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss what I have to say.
I was dual qualified as a 96B1P and 97B1P while attached to the 3rd sfg at Bragg. We knew where Bin Ladin, ate, shit, and slept after the USS Cole...His family connections are what kept him alive not a failure in the intelligence community. His kidneys are what killed him while he hid in a village in Pakistan, not a cave in Afghanistan.
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KiwiClare
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 08:54:53 PM » |
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You misunderstood me Southern Patriot. Read it again.
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To be persuasive, we must be believable,
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KiwiClare
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 09:12:43 PM » |
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I believed you Southern Patriot and was asking you if you knew what brand of loo paper he used. The other information I wrote subsequent to that question is what I try to do on here- provide info for people to use on message boards elsewhere for dealing with disinfo agents. It did not relate to your comment. I am sorry you misunderstood and I don't expect an apology from you for your insulting remarks about me.
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To be persuasive, we must be believable,
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Southern Patriot
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 10:14:21 PM » |
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Sorry....I am high strung lately...Been feeling sick a lot.
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KiwiClare
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 01:09:05 AM » |
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Sorry....I am high strung lately...Been feeling sick a lot.
That's understandable. What I wrote was ambiguous. I will be more careful to write statements that can not be misinterpreted. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 05:57:36 AM » |
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The idea of Osama hiding out in Pakistan after 9/11 seems stupid to me. Also Sibel Edmonds said that Osama Bin Laden still worked for the USA until 9/11 (which would explain why they never killed him).
I'm more of the opinion he probably shaved his beard, got some plastic surgery, and blended into the arab population of a rich country under a new alias (for retirement). He's probably richer than ever with 20 girlfriends and a beachfront home.
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KiwiClare
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 08:50:10 PM » |
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The idea of Osama hiding out in Pakistan after 9/11 seems stupid to me. Also Sibel Edmonds said that Osama Bin Laden still worked for the USA until 9/11 (which would explain why they never killed him).
I'm more of the opinion he probably shaved his beard, got some plastic surgery, and blended into the arab population of a rich country under a new alias (for retirement). He's probably richer than ever with 20 girlfriends and a beachfront home.
Bin Laden was dying in 2001 - he was in a hospital for kidney dialysis. He was suffering from renal failure. (I've wondered if that had something to do with exposure to depleted uranium?) [1]. Even the Whitehouse implied he was dead in 2001, [2]. [1] Bin Laden was met in July 2001 at the American hospital at Dubaï (press) http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/binladen_met_cia.html[2] The [December 27, 2001 video] was dismissed by the Bush administration ... as sick propaganda possibly designed to mask the fact the al-Qa'eda leader was already dead. "He could have made the video and then ordered that it be released in the event of his death," said one White House aide. [Telegraph] http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.html |
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Southern Patriot
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 09:34:41 PM » |
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The idea of Osama hiding out in Pakistan after 9/11 seems stupid to me. Also Sibel Edmonds said that Osama Bin Laden still worked for the USA until 9/11 (which would explain why they never killed him).
I'm more of the opinion he probably shaved his beard, got some plastic surgery, and blended into the arab population of a rich country under a new alias (for retirement). He's probably richer than ever with 20 girlfriends and a beachfront home.
Well...The idea that Bin Ladin was in Afghanistan after 1994 seems stupid to me. He never had any money of his own. He had financial backers in Saudi Arabia and in Pakistan. He was not very popular in Afghanistan due to the fact that he was viewed as to friendly to western interests. Bin Ladin was an opportunist...A religious fanatic...He went where he could make the most noise. The simple fact is that he was a CIA asset ever since the mid 80's when he started receiving funds from the U.S. for the war against the Soviet Union whether he wanted to be or not. He met personally with Representitive Charlie Wilson, which they left out of the movie. He had been to the United States on an extended stay visa issued in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. He spent time at Ft. Benning, Georgia and Ft. Bragg, NC to observe and learn about special forces and guerilla warfare tactics...If I were to tell you exactly what I know about this man, I would lose the anonymity I have on this forum. The intelligence circles are small. All I will say is that you are looking in the wrong place. Almost everything you ever heard about him was a boogy man story. He was a highly intelligent man who envied western lifestyle yet despised U.S. foreign policy. He wanted to have it both ways like his family did yet he felt that he could not ignore the plight of the muslims who have been demonized since we lost the communist threat. He was not generally liked by the muslim population. Al Quada is translated from muslim to english to mean "the database". It was a list of Mujahadin fighters who had received additional training inside the united states in what we refer to now as terrorist tactics. Osama Bin Ladin was the first. He was the Jason Borne of the Al Quada. It was the greatest regret that he had. He felt that he had betrayed the muslim faith by working for the infidels. The muslims hated him for it. I'm done.....There is a lot more that I could write regarding his "crimes" but I am fond of living. Remember one thing...He never accepted responsibility for 9-11....The FBI does not wan him for 9-11....He praised the act as a great Jihaad but condemned it because of the reaction it would garner from the Americans. He was a Saber Rattler and he is long dead. Anyone who has actually watched "his" videos can easily see that. |
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Republic Renewal
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2009, 09:35:50 PM » |
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Been dead roughly 6 years c'mon man.
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Nosce te Ipsum
Know Thyself
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warren_pease
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2009, 05:58:17 AM » |
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an opportunist? that seems ironic. some opportunity for him!
I agree that if the money trail was completely uncovered, it could lead to the government of a foreign nation. The opportunity/opportunists lie with those who BENEFITED from 9/11. Unless Osama got an upgraded cave, I do not see much of a benefit for him. He even acknowledges that we would come in full force, not in those words, but he knew that if you mess with the bull you get the horns.
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