Navy shipmen are being forcibly injected with Swine Flu for genocide experiments

[Southern Patriot]

Nah, I'm done. I've said pretty much all there is to say about this. People can read my previous posts if they really wanna know.

We have DARPA's cyborg beetles, cybervans, and soldiers f'd up on nanotech-delivered morphine to worry about, we don't have time for arguments about whether or not they're killing our soldiers when we know they are.

That is the way I feel...I am literally physically exhausted lately and trying to explain what is happening is taking a toll on me. I am beginning to think they put some kind of time released bioweapon in me. I eat right, get a lot of exercise, drink plenty of spring water, and still feel like crap all the time lately. I can't sleep more than 3 or 4 hours at a time, I'm always thirsty, never hungry, and constantly tired. Maybe it is just stress...I don't know.

[Bacchanea]

Bob just replied to me. He says that this is NOT a hoax and that the government is lying and telling people to shut up about this incident. I'd put my money with Bob, literally.

[Berminator]

Bob just replied to me. He says that this is NOT a hoax and that the government is lying and telling people to shut up about this incident. I'd put my money with Bob, literally.

I'm with Bob.

[sociostudent]

Bob just replied to me. He says that this is NOT a hoax and that the government is lying and telling people to shut up about this incident. I'd put my money with Bob, literally.

+1, I definitely consider this confirmed.

Make it go viral, folks.

[katoomer]

debunked here:  http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1486&start=26

[sociostudent]

hmmm....why are the newbies so quick to debunk this? What's Bob Chapman saying about this? How come his website makes no mention of this? Have a bunch of newbs just taken us for a ride, or what?

[Bacchanea]

debunked here:  http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1486&start=26

Not debunked at all. Its just a cover up.

[Bacchanea]

hmmm....why are the newbies so quick to debunk this? What's Bob Chapman saying about this? How come his website makes no mention of this? Have a bunch of newbs just taken us for a ride, or what?

It is in his International Forecaster, just posted yesterday. I also heard Drew Raines discussing it with him on his radio show.
I am sure Bob will be getting more info about this in the future, so sit tight.

[Supas]

Um, can you explain your comment please? It reeks of trollishness. Bob Chapman's made the most accurate economic predictions out of anyone else in alternative media, and we have no reason NOT to trust him. The upper echelons of the military industrial complex have given us COUNTLESS reasons not to trust them. I mean, really, dude...read some of the PhD investigative reports,  and then tell me you don't believe they'd ever corner a bunch of sailors on a ship and inject them with the shots they want to use on us later. It's just an "initial experimental clinical trial" to them, but it can mean death to our servicemen.

Grow up.

I dont give a damn about what you think it reeks of.  The story is bogus. --->EVERYTHING<---  is detailed except the one item that would debunk this, and that is the name of the ships and the names of the dead sailors involved.

Tell me, oh wise one, how is it possible to have all these ---->SPECIFIC<---- details and not have the name of the ships involved?

Did I say I trust them? Not just no, but hell no. But just because I dont trust someone will mean I automatically believe a BS story like this. Where is the proof? All you have are allegations made by people that some believe due to their past track record.

I dont know about their track records, and I dont really give a damn about them. Track records =/= proof.

Disinfo scum do not lie all the time. They pick and choose when to lie to do the most damage. And this will do some damage to those that would otherwise resist vaccinations because it makes the resisters look like f'n morons when they spread this around.

[sociostudent]

I dont give a damn about what you think it reeks of.  The story is bogus. --->EVERYTHING<---  is detailed except the one item that would debunk this, and that is the name of the ships and the names of the dead sailors involved.

Tell me, oh wise one, how is it possible to have all these ---->SPECIFIC<---- details and not have the name of the ships involved?

Did I say I trust them? Not just no, but hell no. But just because I dont trust someone will mean I automatically believe a BS story like this. Where is the proof? All you have are allegations made by people that some believe due to their past track record.

I dont know about their track records, and I dont really dive a damn about them.

Disinfo scum do not lie all the time. They pick and choose when to lie to do the most damage. And this will do some damage to those that would otherwise resist vaccinations because it makes the resisters look like f'n morons when they spread this around.

Well, I sent Bob Chapman a request for more info on this, so we just need to wait....i have a feeling it isn't true, however, and I apologize if I jumped the gun on this one. What we need right now is discernment, not psyops using our infoweapons against us (they could be just spreading disinfo in his name, we need to make sure that's not what's happening here)

[Supas]

No apologies necessary. I've been fooled more times than I care to admit. It just doesn't bother me to admit it anymore.

[Bacchanea]

No apologies necessary. I've been fooled more times than I care to admit. It just doesn't bother me to admit it anymore.

<sarcasm>Oh, I have never been fooled in my life.</sarcasm> Actually, life is all about being fooled - so you aren't alone there. Part of the journey is learning who to trust. In this case, I do trust Bob Chapman - I really don't believe he would make such an assertion without confidence in its validity. However, at the same time, I understand where you are coming from.

[Berminator]

I'm still with Bob over any MSM Bovine doo doo.

[luckee1]

Supas, I ask you to understand our point of view here.  We are being hit quite hard lately with flu-trolls.  After posting the navy orders, way back there, I took a day off and got alot of house work done and since the skies were so clear of chemtrails I felt wonderful and enjoyed this day.  I can attest to 4 things in this thread.

1) The Navypdf is legit.
2) The Navy Orders are legit.
3) We have the hardest core researchers ever, on one single forum.
4) My Gulf War Vet friends have suffered from the shots they were given in Gulf 1.  Those who returned and had children had children born with birth defects.  For me this is not some faceless veterans.  These are people whose name I know and served with we spoke of our lives and our dreams for when we get out of the service.  Many of them can't dream now.  I did not get the shots in Gulf one because I locked and loaded on the Corpsman and doctor who tried to give it to me.  The story is in another thread.  In '87 however, I was shot up with Plague syrum (a so-called vaccine), It almost killed me.  

We are not just arbitrarily calling people trolls here.  Truth is some of us are exhausted.  We want the truth and we are compelled to make sure every human being has the truth so they can make the right choices.

Thank you for understanding.

[KiwiClare]

This looks like more evidence to show it's legit. Historical evidence.

In regard to the orders, under General on the pdf file

Here is the Navy document that orders the vaccination for naval military units, to essentially use them as guinea pigs for their poison. http://thepowerhour.org/news4/opnav-3500-41.pdf (Page 12, Phase 2)

that were posted in the first post in this thread, it states under "General":

(3) The 1918 PI outbreak had a detrimental effect on the
U.S. military's ability to prosecute World War I. More troops
died as a result of the disease than died of combat-related
injuries. One of the lessons learned from the 1918 Pandemic was
that the Army Staff's failure to act on advice from the Army
Surgeon General had devastating effects. Spread of the disease
was increased in troops due to close quarters and transit time
from Continental United States (CONUS) to the European Continent.
In the face of a future pandemic, advance planning will establish
lines of authority, support and coordination to provide for the
protection, and continuing operability of the force.

What Happened?
HORRORS OF VACCINATION EXPOSED AND ILLUSTRATED

PETITION TO THE PRESIDENT TO ABOLISH COMPULSORY VACCINATION   IN   ARMY   AND   NAVY
Refer: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/higgins_b.html

[sociostudent]

Supas, I ask you to understand our point of view here.  We are being hit quite hard lately with flu-trolls.  After posting the navy orders, way back there, I took a day off and got alot of house work done and since the skies were so clear of chemtrails I felt wonderful and enjoyed this day.  I can attest to 4 things in this thread.

1) The Navypdf is legit.
2) The Navy Orders are legit.
3) We have the hardest core researchers ever, on one single forum.
4) My Gulf War Vet friends have suffered from the shots they were given in Gulf 1.  Those who returned and had children had children born with birth defects.  For me this is not some faceless veterans.  These are people whose name I know and served with we spoke of our lives and our dreams for when we get out of the service.  Many of them can't dream now.  I did not get the shots in Gulf one because I locked and loaded on the Corpsman and doctor who tried to give it to me.  The story is in another thread.  In '87 however, I was shot up with Plague syrum (a so-called vaccine), It almost killed me.  

We are not just arbitrarily calling people trolls here.  Truth is some of us are exhausted.  We want the truth and we are compelled to make sure every human being has the truth so they can make the right choices.

Thank you for understanding.

+1,000, thanks luckee.

[Aerioch]

Standard Operating Procedure ... small scale testing of a weapon before using it in theater.

Mustard Gas --

Rawalpindi experiments

The Rawalpindi experiments were experiments involving use of Mustard gas carried out on hundreds of Indian soldiers by scientists from Porton Down[1] Experiments were carried out before and during the second world war in a military installation at Rawalpindi, now in Pakistan. [2] These experiments began in the early 1930s and lasted more than 10 years.[3]

Since the publication of the story by Rob Evans of the Guardian on 1 September 2007, the experiments are referred to as the Rawalpindi experiments or Rawalpindi mustard gas experiments in the media and elsewhere.
Contents

    
Owner of the project--Porton Down

The experiments in Rawalpindi were part of a much larger project intended to test the effects of chemical weapons on humans. More than 20,000 British servicemen and women were subjected to chemical warfare trials between 1916 and 1989 at the Defence Ministry's Porton Down research centre in southwest England.

Aim of the experiments

The experiments were done to determine the effects of mustard gas, now known to be highly carcinogenic (cancer causing).

According to documents at the British National Archives in London, British army scientists and doctors tested the effects of mustard gas on Indian soldiers over a ten-year period. Beginning in the early 1930s, scientists at Rawalpindi sent Indian soldiers, wearing shorts and cotton shirts, into gas chambers to experience the effects of mustard gas. The scientists hoped to determine the appropriate dosage to use on battlefields. Many of the subjects suffered severe burns from their exposure to the gas.[4]

Effects on subjects

These tests caused large numbers of burns, some of which were so damaging that the subjects had to be hospitalized. According to the report severely burned patients were often very miserable and depressed and in considerable discomfort.[5]

No long term effects of exposure were documented or studied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rawalpindi_experiments

The same testing was done outside Sydney as well.

From 1943 to 1944, mustard gas experiments were performed on Australian Army volunteers in tropical Queensland by British and U.S. Army experimenters, resulting in severe injuries. One test site, Brook Island, was chosen to simulate Japanese-held Pacific islands.[13][14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_mustard


Testing the "vaccine" on a ship isolated in the middle of the ocean would be ideal, and an easy clean-up.  

Sending 50 "Doctors" to "treat" 330 navy personal is overkill.  This was more likely to be a detailed study & observation, rather than effort geared toward life-saving.

[EchelonMonitor]

We need to keep an eye out for TRUE stories of vaccine deaths.  BS like this makes it harder to get the truth out.

They can safely publish all information at wikileaks.org if there is anything that needs to get out.

I don't know of a ship of sailors that could or would keep a secret like that.

[Supas]

Supas, I ask you to understand our point of view here.  We are being hit quite hard lately with flu-trolls.  After posting the navy orders, way back there, I took a day off and got alot of house work done and since the skies were so clear of chemtrails I felt wonderful and enjoyed this day.  I can attest to 4 things in this thread.

1) The Navypdf is legit.
2) The Navy Orders are legit.
3) We have the hardest core researchers ever, on one single forum.
4) My Gulf War Vet friends have suffered from the shots they were given in Gulf 1.  Those who returned and had children had children born with birth defects.  For me this is not some faceless veterans.  These are people whose name I know and served with we spoke of our lives and our dreams for when we get out of the service.  Many of them can't dream now.  I did not get the shots in Gulf one because I locked and loaded on the Corpsman and doctor who tried to give it to me.  The story is in another thread.  In '87 however, I was shot up with Plague syrum (a so-called vaccine), It almost killed me. 

We are not just arbitrarily calling people trolls here.  Truth is some of us are exhausted.  We want the truth and we are compelled to make sure every human being has the truth so they can make the right choices.

Thank you for understanding.

Define trolls. Disagreeing with reason(s) does not equal trolling.

1) The Navypdf is legit.

I never said it wasn't.

2) The Navy Orders are legit.

I never said they weren't

3) We have the hardest core researchers ever, on one single forum.

Maybe.

4) My Gulf War Vet friends have suffered from the shots they were given in Gulf 1.

I believe it. Vaccines can have side effects and sometimes they are severe. It has never happened to me but I know it does happen. No f'n way will I ever take the H1N1 vaccine.

However, that does not mean that the original post story is true. Not that the poster lied, but the story itself is bogus.

Truth is some of us are exhausted.  We want the truth and we are compelled to make sure every human being has the truth so they can make the right choices.

Exhaustion leads to mistakes.

I do understand what you say. Let me tell you what I DONT understand:

The MSM is not trusted. They are not trusted because of what they dont tell you.

THe "alternative" media has its problems too, because of what they DO tell you.

One lies by omission, the other lies by committing them.

They are both untrustworthy. What I dont understand is why people go from believing one group without thinking to believing another group without thinking. Neither group, MSM or alternative, is trustworthy.

If you want the truth you have to dig hard for it. Don't believe someone just because they told the truth in the past. That's called "being lazy". Do that and you will fall for their lies.

If you are really worn out, you need to take a break or you risk burning out. No one can stay on alert 24/7/365. Go fishing or hunting, or do something else you enjoy. Life is too short. It might be real short, for everyone. Time will tell.

Know what can help? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper_%28Marine%29

Be in Condition Yellow or Orange. Stay out of Red until it really is Red. It's better for the blood pressure.

[luckee1]

Define trolls. Disagreeing with reason(s) does not equal trolling.

One who is fishing for responses to distract from the truth.  Agents and provocateurs and shills at first glance appear to be just a troll.   I hope by my response you did not believe that I was insinuating you are a troll.  Not at all.  You will see how I respond to trolls in other threads.

I thank you for responding.

Exhaustion leads to mistakes.

  you got that right!  That is why I took a break from the computer for a whole day!   

If you want the truth you have to dig hard for it. Don't believe someone just because they told the truth in the past. That's called "being lazy". Do that and you will fall for their lies.

Absolutely, that is why we do research to check the claims anyone posts.  My above posting was adding to the veracity of the Naval documents.  Granted, It does not prove the sailors on one ship being infected, however with the history of the government doing mass vaccinations on military personnel, it does bear considering and research for veracity.  Because we are not privy to all communique's of military movements at any given time, we are trying to find the sailors and ship in question.  Once we as a group can determine the truth we will be able to work from there.  This is what we do.  The troops in Gulf 1 were not given those shots stateside!  We were in a foreign country with no resources to avoid the shots.  There is another detail to consider:  We were all issued bundles of unmarked pill packets and told that if the Commanding Officer said to take them we had to take them.  no choice.  We had a lot of reservists there who in their civilian life were doctors 'who played Marine on weekends' so they sent some of those pills stateside to their lab resources, and those tests could not identify what the pills were or what they were for.  I really distrust the gov more than you know.  The MSM periodically will let loose info.  Often alternative media get more info correctly.  All to be distrusted until verified.

Know what can help? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper_%28Marine%29

Be in Condition Yellow or Orange. Stay out of Red until it really is Red. It's better for the blood pressure.

I am only in yellow.  I have learned to ignore certain "Red Alerts" as they didn't warrant such alarmist titles.     But I will and so will others on the forum keep on top of the stories that come out via MSM or Alt media. 

I appreciate your scepticism.  We have a frustrating process of dealing with major news.  If you will notice about the Annie Le thread.  We were sure that there was a patsy being set up.  In the pursuit of that research, we found so much more incriminating evidence of huge conspiracies.

Being that you are in pursuit of the truth as we are, I welcome you to the forum!

[Supas]

We're on the same page here 

What bothers me, and I'm not saying you did it but am speaking in a general sense because I've been on boards and read .alt news sites for years now, is that people tend to believe that if A is true, and so is B, then C must be true too because it involves both A and B histories and methods of operation. People can have a tendency to connect dots that shouldn't be connected and before you know it they are studying shapeshifting reptilian humanoids and other such things.

We're trying to put together a puzzle when we dont have all the pieces. Some try and force these pieces in place, and the truth be damned. That is what this topic involves, IMO. And not just this topic, but others.
I think we all agree that the PTB have some nasty things in store, so they can stay in power. They'll lose, but we'll pay a heavy price. It's just a short hop, skip and a jump from sonic weapons being used against us, and real bullets.

Thank you for the welcome.

You may end up taking that welcome back, because I will say the same kinds of things about Alex Jones.

I'd be REAL INTERESTED to see what Mr Chapman has to say about this story. The devil is in the details.

[Bacchanea]

You know, Supas, you are free to write Mr. Chapman yourself. If YOU really want to know the truth and don't trust what he has said publically so far, send your questions to him. Otherwise, you are just venting and/or trolling.

[luckee1]

You know, Supas, you are free to write Mr. Chapman yourself. If YOU really want to know the truth and don't trust what he has said publically so far, send your questions to him. Otherwise, you are just venting and/or trolling.

How about we all try to find the ship and the crew.  Let us use our energy on that.  I don't think supas is trolling.  There are times some of us here sent info out that was premature.  See the Charlie Sheen thing for an example.  That affects our credibility.  Supas is wanting to make sure we are not prematurely dispensing bogus info. 

Have we found any more sources to this?
As we get more info on this (verified info), we will post here.  So let us use the energy to verify and not attack one another.  Believe me, trolls have an odor, we will sniff them out. 

[Bacchanea]

Here is Bob Talking about it on the Power Hour.
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1363297

It is the first topic for discussion.

[Bacchanea]

How about we all try to find the ship and the crew.  Let us use our energy on that.  I don't think supas is trolling.  There are times some of us here sent info out that was premature.  See the Charlie Sheen thing for an example.  That affects our credibility.  Supas is wanting to make sure we are not prematurely dispensing bogus info. 

Have we found any more sources to this?
As we get more info on this (verified info), we will post here.  So let us use the energy to verify and not attack one another.  Believe me, trolls have an odor, we will sniff them out. 

I get that. I am just saying what you are saying (in a different and perhaps less effictive way). We need to stop attacking one another and find the facts.

[Supas]

You know, Supas, you are free to write Mr. Chapman yourself. If YOU really want to know the truth and don't trust what he has said publically so far, send your questions to him. Otherwise, you are just venting and/or trolling.

  Yeah right. Weren't you the one that said you wrote him or was it someone else?
 If he responds, then post it. But I bet he doesn't respond. Who knows though, maybe he will. I don't know him or even care about him enough to write him. It's entirely up to him to justify the story. He didn't, yet.

It's all about the information, not venting or trolling. I mean, really, those accusations are about as credible as Jackson or Sharpton playing the race card when someone says something they don't like.

Lets see where this goes. I posted my opinion, others posted theirs, let's see who is right.

[Bacchanea]

I just posted a vid where he is talking about this issue (see a few posts above). I wrote to Bob and he responded (he always does) which is one of the great things about him.  I am a new subscriber to his IF, but I have been listening to him for about a year now and going over his old forecasters (he posts partial ones). It takes a lot for me to trust too. He is one of the few sources I do trust. He has never been too far off about issues regarding the economy and he is not one to engage in B.S. But that is me. You don't trust him and you have no reason to.

He WILL answer you if you write him.

Anyway about the ship: This information is being supressed. It will come out eventually.

Anyway, this is what he said to me:

this is not a hoax, and what you sent me has been sent to me by a lot of people. [I had sent him some of the stronger arguments against the story] The government is lying.  If they weren’t why are they visiting every Marine and Naval family in the San Diego/Carlsbad area telling them to shut up about what went on.
Bob

[Supas]

It looks like we have different standards on what constitutes "proof". Just saying it isn't a hoax proves nothing.
Saying the .gov is lying is not proof.

Marines and sailors may be under orders to shut up, but their families aren't. There is no way that they can tell these families what to do. There is no way they could get to "every Marine and Naval family in the San Diego/Carlsbad area telling them to shut up about what went on. " No way.

Edited to add: Include the families not in the S. CA area. Not every sailor/marine is from S. CA.

This stinks to high heaven. It looks to me like he dug himself into a pit he cant get out of. But let's see where it goes.

[luckee1]

It looks like we have different standards on what constitutes "proof". Just saying it isn't a hoax proves nothing.
Saying the .gov is lying is not proof.

Marines and sailors may be under orders to shut up, but their families aren't. There is no way that they can tell these families what to do. There is no way they could get to "every Marine and Naval family in the San Diego/Carlsbad area telling them to shut up about what went on. " No way.

This stinks to high heaven. It looks to me like he dug himself into a pit he cant get out of. But let's see where it goes.

I hate to disagree.  But I have to.  All they have to do is threaten them just like they do with the military members.  It has been done before.  The next question is do the families even know standard deployments happen all the time.  Further, what says the troops even knew before the deployment.

Hell for Gulf 1, the only way the secret got out was by the pizza delivery places got inundated with calls for delivery!  It is they who started talking about it.  So again let us find alternative sources to prove out.  mm'kay?

[Supas]

OK, I'm listening to that vid now. It is nice of her to start out with this topic.

So, this starts out with having received 2 IM's from 2 women (?). THAT is where he got his information from.
He said that the info became "PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE ABOUT A MONTH AGO". Really?
Then he said that "hundreds of them were visited by naval intelligence. They were asked if they said anything. Somehow he knows that these hundreds of people said "no".

Oh for f&%ks sake. Now he said that they are keeping track of those that dispute what he said?

I am going to give that part a transcript. Here it goes:

NOw I know that people have purportedly checked with naval and marine personnel in the US. And doctors and offices and manifests .

Let me tell you something. The government doesn't tell the truth about anything. They are covering it up. And this is whats going on. And we're taking note of the sites that are attacking the issue. Cause were seeing a trail of the same misinformation and propaganda actually thats being put out and we're noting who's doing it obviouslt they're working with the government or they're stupid, one or the other.

...

They are tailing these women and tapping their phones and we know this. They dont know we know it but they know now.

They're terrorizing these people.

I've had enough.

I wonder if I am stupid, or work for the government. He said it's one or the other so he must be telling the truth.

I'm sorry, but I dont see how anyone can take this guy seriously. I really can't.

Did he ever mention the names of the ships?

[Supas]

I hate to disagree.  But I have to.  All they have to do is threaten them just like they do with the military members.  It has been done before.  The next question is do the families even know standard deployments happen all the time.  Further, what says the troops even knew before the deployment.

Hell for Gulf 1, the only way the secret got out was by the pizza delivery places got inundated with calls for delivery!  It is they who started talking about it.  So again let us find alternative sources to prove out.  mm'kay?

You don't have to hate to disagree. Just do it! It doesn't bother me.

[Supas]

I hate to disagree.  But I have to.  All they have to do is threaten them just like they do with the military members.  It has been done before.  The next question is do the families even know standard deployments happen all the time.  Further, what says the troops even knew before the deployment.

Hell for Gulf 1, the only way the secret got out was by the pizza delivery places got inundated with calls for delivery!  It is they who started talking about it.  So again let us find alternative sources to prove out.  mm'kay?

Did you miss my edit? What about those that don't live in the S. CA area. There's no way they could have gotten to all of them, and no way they could be forced to shut up. No way. Give us the name of the ships involved and screw the names of the crews involved, they arent needed.

From that video, he does NOT Want anyone checking with doctors or manifests or anything of the sort. Otherwise the tard will "keep track of you" and your propaganda!

[luckee1]

I'll have to agree with Supas!  There are supposedly 3 ships with infected personnel.  (I just listened to the pertainant part of the broadcast)

Hey SoCal!  What are the names of the ships that just came in from a possibly 3 month deployment?  Will you check in your area?

From the sound of the interview, it sounds like (if the op is true) that this was a carrier group exercise and one ship infected on purpose and then there was two other ships of personnel also infected.

[Supas]

What did it for me was the exacting detail regarding numbers and dates, not not the ship(s) name(s).

Then he implied a threat against anyone that decided to check this out. That was in the audio when he said :

"And we're taking note of the sites that are attacking the issue. Cause were seeing a trail of the same misinformation and propaganda actually thats being put out and we're noting who's doing it obviouslt they're working with the government or they're stupid, one or the other."

If that's not an exact quote, it's damn close. And I have a hard time believing an honest person would say something so idiotic.

And he based this thing on 2 anonymous IMs.

I don't know. It's not looking too good for him, the way I see it.

If he;s actually "taking note of the sites that are attacking the issue", and Bob is reading this, then explain yourself, Bob. Show proof. Do it in public for all to see. But I won't hold my breath.

[KiwiClare]

Supas quote

"And we're taking note of the sites that are attacking the issue. Cause were seeing a trail of the same misinformation and propaganda actually thats being put out and we're noting who's doing it obviouslt they're working with the government or they're stupid, one or the other."

This following message came as part of the newsletter today from Maj. Gen. Albert N. Stubblebine III (US Army, Ret.) Natural Solutions Foundation President:

DISINFORMATION NOTE:
 

We are living through an information war, as well as a war to exterminate us.  The Natural Solutions Foundation did not run the following story because we could not substantiate it and because the details did not hold together.  We cannot promise that we will never make a mistake, but we can promise that we research what we tell you very, very carefully and you can rely on us for that.
 

Perhaps you've heard the story of the sailors on a US Navy ship who became terribly ill and, in some cases, died, after being injected with the Swine Flu Vaccine in April.  It isn't true.  In fact, it is a hoax.


Much of the wording of the story being circulated now as if it is current news (starting on September 24th) was stolen verbatim from a true CBS news story dated July 21st. The base true story was radically altered, with dramatic fictional elements added, and "rebranded" to make it appear it's happening now. It isn't.  Here's the link to the widely circulated, but false story:
 

Navy ship docking in CA with onboard fatalities
http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1486&start=26

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[Satyagraha]

Supas, I ask you to understand our point of view here.  We are being hit quite hard lately with flu-trolls.  After posting the navy orders, way back there, I took a day off and got alot of house work done and since the skies were so clear of chemtrails I felt wonderful and enjoyed this day.  I can attest to 4 things in this thread.

1) The Navypdf is legit.
2) The Navy Orders are legit.
3) We have the hardest core researchers ever, on one single forum.
4) My Gulf War Vet friends have suffered from the shots they were given in Gulf 1.  Those who returned and had children had children born with birth defects.  For me this is not some faceless veterans.  These are people whose name I know and served with we spoke of our lives and our dreams for when we get out of the service.  Many of them can't dream now.  I did not get the shots in Gulf one because I locked and loaded on the Corpsman and doctor who tried to give it to me.  The story is in another thread.  In '87 however, I was shot up with Plague syrum (a so-called vaccine), It almost killed me.  

We are not just arbitrarily calling people trolls here.  Truth is some of us are exhausted.  We want the truth and we are compelled to make sure every human being has the truth so they can make the right choices.

Thank you for understanding.

Luckee1 - thanks for all your hard work doing the militaryspeak->English translating! These guys on ships are portable guinea pigs in floating labs.

[luckee1]

Guys, when we all get together in heaven I am buying the first round!

We are in an infowar.

KiwiClare you mentioned Stubblebine.  Oh dear!  Um he is not to be trusted either aw jeeze.  Ok I did not hear any threats veiled or otherwise.  If there was a threat given on that, that was utterly stupid and a sure sign of disinfo.

[Berminator]

I've been kinda keepin' track, are we at Chapman vs Stubblebine?

[luckee1]

I've been kinda keepin' track, are we at Chapman vs Stubblebine?

Being I don't trust anyone, in this case I say trust neither.  Check the crap yourself.  How many times does Alex say to check and research for yourself, even on the Stuff he announces. 

[Berminator]

Being I don't trust anyone, in this case I say trust neither.  Check the crap yourself.  How many times does Alex say to check and research for yourself, even on the Stuff he announces. 

AJ didn't put the story prominently on sites either i believe.