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« on: September 25, 2009, 01:27:11 AM »

Ok this came out of another thread but I thought it deserved it’s own.

Here is the post that got this ball rolling.

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In this video the kid with the black backpack and red bandanna with his hands up in the original video gets arrested by real police just a few minutes later down the street:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_acjSiJRbo

They drag the arrest out as slow as they can hoping to incite more people in the crowd. More than likely the guy who got snatched and the guy with the red bandanna are agent provocateurs attempting to incite violence in a peaceful protest.

Edit: I took this screenshot of the front page of Drudge:

http://imgur.com/mSeXH.jpg

Isn't that the kid with the black backpack and red bandanna from the two youtube videos? Now he's popping up on the front page of Drudge? I smell agent provocateurs!

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And here is my comparison and assessment of the stills I pulled from the video vs. the arrest photo on Drudge Report.



And a direct link for those that would like to download this image a little more clearly, seems to have compressed the text a bit posting on here.

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/Draskinn/Finaldraftimagebandannaman1.jpg


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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2009, 01:28:33 AM »

It's the same arrest...
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2009, 01:47:50 AM »

The only way it could be the same arrest is if it were a magic self resetting bandanna. In the video it is down around his neck in the Drudge photo it is firmly over his mouth. His hands are restrained the entire time.

It is two different arrests. It only looks the same because of the uniform gear. Matching riot gear, matching police vehicles and he is wearing the same cloths but the bandanna is worn differently in each arrest with the subjects arms restrained he has no way to change it.

I've worn bandannas like that; you can't exactly just pull it up with your teeth and get it in place like that you have to use your hands. He can't, once it was down on his neck he would not be able to reset for that photo and you can see from the video he does not get free to fix is face just for that shot.

Sorry but the devil is in the details it's two different arrests.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2009, 01:58:16 AM »

Obvious answer: That photo on Drudge came before the scenes featured in the video... as you can see in the video they are walking him down the street. Obviously that photo was taken at the very first SUV which is blocked from view by bystanders.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2009, 02:17:18 AM »

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=136934.0
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2009, 02:19:47 AM »


Yeah I was going to say... I thought there already was a thread on this.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=136934.msg823746#msg823746 is gewd.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2009, 02:26:46 AM »

I don’t know maybe Alex constantly talking about agent provocateurs has just got me jumping at shadows on this one. I was damn sure I was right half an hour ago.

Maybe I just shouldn’t be watching protest videos at 3am. Mods can delete this thread.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 02:29:13 AM »

I don’t know maybe Alex constantly talking about agent provocateurs has just got me jumping at shadows on this one. I was damn sure I was right half an hour ago.

Maybe I just shouldn’t be watching protest videos at 3am.


I'd still question it. Everything and everybody should be questioned.

There is a lot about this we don't know. However, it is still pretty f**ked up.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2009, 02:33:52 AM »

I don’t know maybe Alex constantly talking about agent provocateurs has just got me jumping at shadows on this one. I was damn sure I was right half an hour ago.

Pretty much.

What I find odd is the sheer amount of people with photography grade cameras there and what look like press passes taking picture of that arrest. Watch the video -- there are literally about 50 people all with every type of camera under the sun. Where did they all come from? Excellent timing? Or were the police arresting people in that area for awhile which allowed that many photographers to gather in one location? Or were the photographers wandering around in a giant group and happened to stumble upon it?

That kind of thing makes it seem like a media event. But as for him being arrested twice -- not buying it on the basis of what we can see and look at.

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I'd still question it. Everything and everybody should be questioned.

Oh yeah by all means question it, but people on here tend to forget that there really are idiots and crazy people in the world. For instance every single mass shooting that has occurred in the last year's time has been deemed 'MK ULTRA.' Crazy people do exist! Sorry!?
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 02:48:36 AM »

About him not saying his name, he does and they ask for him to spell it out
he shouts it out with his eyes closed.

S-A-N..B-O-R-N-HYPHON-H-U-L

Sanborn-Hul


EDIT: I THINK I FOUND HIS FACEBOOK PAGE.

Malcolm Sanborn-Hum

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=Sanborn-Hul&init=quick#/profile.php?id=503010231&ref=search&sid=1311090165.2501561030..1

It's hard to tell, but he looks very similar.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2009, 03:12:11 AM »

I sent a friend request to him with the following message

"I know this is very random, but I was watching this video.
h t t p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_acjSiJRbo
This person is arrested during a protest during the G20 rally in Pittsburgh. Someone asked them to say their name and they said "Sanborn-Hum" they then spelled it out to that.
I did a facebook search, curious, and found this profile and a person who looks very familiar.

If this is you. I'd love to hear your story from this video.
h t t p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8CNa_viKg0
The video is quite short and we do not know what happened before.

Again, sorry if this is completely random and you are not this person. My best regards and I hope you have a nice day."

If I get any response I will make a thread about it.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2009, 04:05:02 AM »

Link to the picture, don't have Facebook and it asks to log in.
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2009, 04:55:24 AM »

He fits the basic description
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2009, 05:01:11 AM »

Damn you are right dude.

I didn't catch that before.  It's right at 1:18

S-A-N-B-O-R-N  H-U-M

We have a winner

Wonder if his one buddy's in his friends

Good eyes and ears man
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2009, 12:59:24 PM »

No response yet. As soon as, or if, I receive a response, this'll be the first place I post.

I have doubts he was a agent provocateur.

Also the first video is in, observing it, it looks like police are wearing the camo. If you look at riot police and those guys, they have the same white armbands with something written on it.
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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2009, 01:20:22 PM »

yes - so many 'black bloc' events occur in the San Francisco area that we've been around that sort of thing many times. Half the people are walking around wondering who the undercover officer might be.
  Often it is very obvious, because they have police moustaches and are speaking to uniformed officers at the scene. In many cases, they use younger people and women as well, and there is the famous case of Anna Davies (who started working at age 17) who entrapped Eric McDavid.

Anyway, there is a video out there of this arrest. My intuition is that this guy isn't really suspicious. The arrest was sort of prolonged. In contrast with the snatching of the guy by national guard, with that guy they were first tugging him one way - then pushing him against the back of a truck while searching his bag. Then police walk him away over a bridge, rather than putting him in a vehicle.

However... the twitter stream for #g20 has multiple posts about 'what the undercover officers are wearing' (white bandannas and dark green shirts?), and cases where the anarchist leaning crowd suddenly is all pointing at an individual and jeering. There definitely are undercovers out there.
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2009, 01:57:01 PM »

Good one finding his Facebook nice work on that Mithridates.

Hate to say it but looking at the evidence again in the light of day at 3 PM as opposed to half asleep at 3 AM I’ve got to admit I think Warrior of the Light got his assessment spot on with his video still image brake down of the first 10 sec of the video in the other thread.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=136934.msg823746#msg823746

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Hate when I’m wrong but I’m willing to admit it. It’s not two different arrests just one long dragged out arrest that goes on for like 5 freaking minutes and goes over a 100 or so feet of ground for some reason.

Though the whole thing still seems strange. Hopefully at some point will be able to hear the story from the horse’s mouth if the Facebook link pans out.
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