Proof of agent provacateurs at the G20 protests!

[RicardoCasio]

Here's the original video of military guys in an unmarked car snatching a protestor off the street.  Keep an eye on the guy with the black backpack and red bandanna with his hands up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8CNa_viKg0

In this next video the kid with the black backpack and red bandanna with his hands up in the original video gets arrested by real police just a few minutes later down the street:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_acjSiJRbo

Here's a screenshot from Drudge's front page with the same red bandanna kid:

http://imgur.com/mSeXH.jpg

Isn't that the kid with the black backpack and red bandanna from the two youtube videos? That is the same guy getting arrested twice. If you watch the video an then look at the still shot you'll see that the still shot is NOT from the same arrest as the video!

[LoreOnTerror]

It looks like the same guy but he gets arrested in one and someone else in the other while he's standing there watching it happen with his hands up.

[RicardoCasio]

He gets arrested once in one of the videos and then there's a picture of him on the front page of Drudge being arrested in another location.

[TruRevolution]

I know riots are not the answer, but dammit if I was there that would make me want to rush a pig.

[LoreOnTerror]

Nah the pic and the video are the same arrest. You can see the guy taking the picture in the video around 45 seconds in.

[Whistler®]

Nah the pic and the video are the same arrest. You can see the guy taking the picture in the video around 45 seconds in.

Correct.

[Harconen]

'Rioter' and police dealing with the 'rioter' - all wearing the same police-issue boots.  Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about.

Already waiting in the wings are the agent provocateurs and the useful idiots primed to start the riots and civil unrest that the idiots believe to be challenging the existing order. But the existing order was created by the same network of Illuminati families that are seeking to create the 'new order', the New World Order, which is planned to emerge from the turmoil and chaos they are now engineering.

To achieve this, as always, they need our cooperation and let no-one be in any doubt that those who choose to riot and loot in response to what is happening, and encourage others to riot and loot, are walking straight into the trap that has been laid for them. The government and military agent provocateurs will know that, the useful idiots will not, but it is time they did.

I have met few more concrete-minded or naive people than those that are termed the extreme end of the political 'Left'. They have been played like a violin for hundreds of years to change the world in the image of the Illuminati blueprint in violent revolutions to bring down the established order. Now they are being gathered again to complete the journey to global tyranny and provide the violence and chaos that is designed to open the way to a world government, world army, world central bank, world electronic currency and a microchipped population connected to the global positioning satellite system, or GPS, among many other technologies of surveillance and control.

The riots and looting they want to see, the chaos, will be met with the installation of a Police State with curfews, jail without trial, the military on the streets, and the activation of the concentration camps for 'dissidents' that we have long warned about. They are officially called 'military installations', run by FEMA, the deeply-sinister Federal Emergency Management Agency, and it is no coincidence, of course, that a bill numbered H.R. 645 is passing through Washington 'to direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations'. No, concentration camps, and other countries will have them prepared also.

Look at what that War College document said: 'Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.' Might? It's a certainty because that's the plan and all the laws are in place to allow them to do it. They have been passed by governments around the world as 'anti-terror' legislation, but they use the terms 'terror' and 'terrorist' in such a non-specific way that all these laws can be applied to the entire population of the country that the 'laws' were supposed to protect according to their advocates.

It was all a gigantic con, as some of us tired of pointing out. It had nothing to do with terrorists who are alleged to plant bombs and so on. All these laws have been put into place with the specific goal of controlling the mass of the people through a Police State when they triggered an economic collapse, together with new wars.

Add to all this a stream of presidential executive orders signed by successive presidents without oversight by either the House of Representatives or the Senate. These are unconstitutional and make the president a virtual dictator. Click here to see the powers that the State can activate, thanks to these orders, when martial law is declared.

This is why Obama's Zionist Svengali, the White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, is seeking to have gun ownership curtailed - to make the military takeover easier. Meantime, more people are seeking to be armed and requests for concealed weapon permits in Florida alone are up 42 per cent in 45 days with the consequences of the economic turmoil in mind.

The only way to stop all this is not to react as they want us to, with violence and hostility to both the State and each other. How many violent revolutions have led to just another tyranny, official or unofficial, to replace the one that fell? It has to be so because what is destroyed by violence will be replaced by the same energy. As I have said in my books, what you fight, you become.

John Lennon put it perfectly when he sang:

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out ...

... You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait

Martin Luther King also put it brilliantly when he said of rioting:

'The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility.'

Those are the words of a revolutionary who succeeded through peaceful non-cooperation. Yes, they killed him, but what he created through non-violence and determination went forth to end segregation. Physical life does not matter when compared with what is right, for we are all eternal Conciousness having an illusory experience and the greatest illusion is death.

I would much rather die 'early' doing what I knew to be right than to eek out a few more illusory years as a slave to a tyranny.

But there is no need even for that to bring an end to this nonsense. There are billions of people being enslaved and a comparative handful doing the enslaving. Er, I think I see a way out of this.

We need to come together in mutual support, love, kindness and empathy. We need to put aside the manufactured fault-lines that divide us - religion, politics, race, culture and income bracket. That is not to say people have to reject their beliefs, just don't let them be weapons of division.

We are all in this together and we need to meet the challenge together, not steal from each other, loot or riot, or look the other way because something happening to someone else is 'not my problem'. They are not seeking to enslave Muslims, Jews, black people, or white middle class Americans and so on. They are seeking to do it to all of us and they are picking off different groups one by one, just like the Nazis did in Germany. Remember these famous words because they are so applicable now:

First they came for the Jews and I was not a Jew so I did nothing.
Then they came for the communists and I was not a communist so I did nothing.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I was not a trade unionist so I did nothing.
Then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak out for me.

Let us unite behind that which affects everyone - the loss of our most basic freedoms. And if this is being planned now, what kind of world are our children and grandchildren going to live in? Can you live with that thought while doing nothing or rioting as the authorities want? I can't.

We need to start getting organised in communities and groups to support each other and stop cooperating with the system - not to fight it. The system can only exist with our cooperation and acquiesce. We are holding it together. They have their men and women of violence, called the military and 'Swat' teams, to deal with violent resistance.

But their worst nightmare is our non-cooperation - the refusal to pay taxes; refusal to leave homes when banks foreclose on them; refusal to 'comply' with our own enslavement in any form. The system couldn't cope if this was done on a mass scale. And that's the point: to do this we need to do it en-masse and those not immediately affected need to support those who are.

Instead of compliance, we need the non-comply-dance of people who beat to a different drum and will not comply with what is unfair, unjust, or targets their freedom and the freedom of others. This approach does not refuse to comply in a spirit of hostility, rage or violence, but with love, joy and laughter - and an unbreakable determination not to cooperate with their own enslavement.

We need a mass refusal join the military, especially if they try to introduce the Draft; a refusal to do the compulsory 'community service' for young people that Obama's controllers want to introduce (as does the UK government); and a refusal to join, or accept the legitimacy of, Obama's planned civilian security force, which is nothing more than a scam to get the people to police the people on behalf of the Elite in the midst of the economic collapse and war.

We need to start getting together local currency schemes that can operate outside the system and, yes, people should also have mass protests if they choose, so long as they are peaceful. But they need to be part of the campaign of non-violent, non-cooperation, not the focus of it.

How many mass protests have there been over the years around the world and yet everything just goes on as before, be it war or globalisation. We need to stop posturing and then heading for the bar to feel good about ourselves and start doing what will actually make a difference.

Mass protests can ease frustration - steam whistles as I call them - but what good do most of them do? Mass non-cooperation with the system is far more effective.

The protests need to be targeted at non-cooperation, refusing to accept laws that ban assembly by massive numbers turning up; surrounding the homes of neighbours when the bank bailiffs come to put them on the street; and so filling the locations of government and finance with masses of people that the system cannot function. Workers who provide essential services to government, police and financial institutions etc., can refuse to do so until Orwellian laws and financial injustice are removed. In this way the perpetrators are affected, not the mass of the people, as with all-out strikes.

And all of this needs to be good humoured and strictly peaceful.

I would say this also to those in uniform. You may think you have power, but you are just pawns in the game like anyone else. You don't have the power, your uniform does, because that is an extension of the State. Those inside are just there to animate the uniform and do the bidding of those it represents. When you are useful to the cabal they'll praise you and when you are surplus to their requirements as part of the bigger agenda they'll show you the door.

You have children and grandchildren, too, who will have to live in the world you are policing into existence by 'following orders' and believing the manipulative nonsense fed to you by governments and cabal 'training' fronts like the UK-based Common Purpose. Wake up from the trance and stop building a Police State for your own children and grandchildren - and everyone else. Think about the consequences for those you love of what you are doing - and stop doing it.

More than anything, we all need to free our minds and become conscious. From that, everything else will come, including the intuition, inspiration and knowing that will guide us on how most effectively to deal with what we face.

If there are many things you would like to do in a room, but the room is dark and you can't see, what is the fundamental first step to anything else happening? You have to turn on the light and then all the rest becomes possible. Without that you are thrashing around in the dark and falling over the furniture.

That is what 'humans' are doing today and have been for so long. They have been manipulated to believe they are their bodies and their names when those are just the experiences of who they truly are - eternal Consciousness. As the great American comedian, Bill Hicks, said:

'... all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.'

The divisions between us are illusory to allow a certain kind of experience, but these illusions have been exploited mercilessly to divide and rule us.

ENOUGH!

When we awaken to the truth of who we are the world looks very different and so do the challenges that are put before us - or we put before ourselves. Move your point of observation and everything changes. Try it. Try ceasing to identify who you are with your body, your name and the reflection in the mirror. Try seeing those things as experiences and not who you are. Try observing your life and the world from the perception of the real you - eternal Conciousness, All That Is, Has Been and Ever Can Be in our illusion called 'time'.

Eternal Conscious in awareness of itself doesn't riot; it is not violent and it doesn't loot. But nor does it ever do, or accept for itself and others, what is not fair, just, loving and kind. Crucially, Consciousness is without fear. When we operate on that level then we can truly claim to be Conscious and not trapped in the illusion called Mind. As Albert Einstein said: 'You cannot solve problems with the same level of consciousness that created them.'

John Lennon also made this key point in Revolution about what needs to happen to really make a difference. We need to free our minds and become Conscious:

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

We are now fast heading for the eye of the storm that has been planned for so long to enslave the global population in a centralised tyranny. But we don't have to accept it or acquiesce to it, meekly looking on as the walls of control close in by the day.

But that is what is happening and it has to stop. For everyone's sake, it has to stop.

We can come together, we MUST come together, putting aside the fault-lines of race, religion, culture and income bracket. These are just illusory labels through which we are divided and therefore ruled. Believe in them if you wish, and enjoy them if they make you happy, but don't let them divide us any longer.

We need to come together in mutual support at this time as those with sick minds and closed hearts are poised to throw everything at us to complete their agenda for total control. Whether their insanity prevails is not in their hands, but in ours. It is we who have the power if only we would choose to use it.

We are One Consciousness deluded into thinking we are 'little me'. When we realise that we are all One - and act upon that with courage, love, kindness, peace and empathy for all who need support - the walls of oppression must fall.

But sitting on your arse hoping it will all go away is no longer an option.

It never was.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=125934.0

[chris killz blog]

at least 2 other threads on this
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=136902.msg823696;topicseen#msg823696


The bystanders try to ask him his name, and he won't give it to em (as far as I can tell)  He rattles off some bs about it's in his phone or something.  If I just saw my homie get "disappeared" by secret police better believe I'm gonna tell some dude on the sidelines trying to help keep track of me when I'm getting taken away.
Does he think that he's just not going to give those cops arresting him his name? Or they won't find out somehow?  Good luck with that one bro.  Maybe who knows?
But IMO, the dead giveaway on all this is WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE'S NAMES??

Does anyone know who they are??

[LoreOnTerror]

It does seem staged since he was in both videos unless they decided to come back and get him. 

[RicardoCasio]

Pic of the guys in fatigues from the snatching:

[xopatriot]

Could this photo have been shot further down. I did see the same building in the video. Unless there is another video of him getting arrested twice. Hard to tell from just one picture.

[Warrior of the Light]

Don't get me wrong here, I know there are some agent provacateurs and these guys fit the mold. Like mentioned above this clown didn't give out his name....just fumbled around and that "queued" them to "man handle" and move him.

They're all wearing black and hiding their faces. That's a work of darkness.

Who ever asked him for his name, was smart. He never answered and used the man handling scuffle as the distraction to slip out of the question.

The pictures were both taken from different angles by different cameras much earlier than at :45 like previously mentioned.

Here's my breakdown...



Notice the baton, shorts and shoes/socks. The "agent" still has on his bandana. Also the building in the background.




Here's the scene...notice the shorts shoes/socks. The guy with the arrow pointing on him probably took the shot from Drudge.




Bandana on the agents face.




Baton and Bandana. This is probably close to when the first picture was taken.




Building reflection on the SUV window matches the first picture.

[Unintelligable Name]

There were 50 people taking photographs, who got ever angle under the sun. I really think it's goofy to say that this kid was arrested twice and two different locations.

[Mithridates]

Pic of the guys in fatigues from the snatching:

Those have to be national guardsmen. Why else would the riot police be fine with them. Plus you can notice the name tags on the uniform.

[xopatriot]

Those are not national guard. They are missing rank insignia branch of service tape on their shirt. The uniform resembles the marine uniform but their uniform does not have that velcro on the shoulders, the army ACU does but they alway have the patch of their unit on it. These guys are either mercs or cops the other alternative? a foreign soldier here as an "observer".

[Mithridates]

Those are not national guard. They are missing rank insignia branch of service tape on their shirt. The uniform resembles the marine uniform but their uniform does not have that velcro on the shoulders, the army ACU does but they alway have the patch of their unit on it. These guys are either mercs or cops the other alternative? a foreign soldier here as an "observer".

Possible. However I'm more interested in their arm bands, can anyone try to find other videos of different soldiers with the same arm bands?

Also by watching the video, you can tell they have police training.

[xopatriot]

Like I said mercs, cops or foreign troops, but not guard. Also the lack of cover on their heads, that is part of the uniform and clearly there is nothing uniform about these guys. Every sloppy demeanor about them screams cop to tell you the truth.  It would be nice to see what those badges say.

[Warrior of the Light]

MultiCam BDU's.......I think these guy's are definitely special operatives/forces.

Hard to tell where from....

MultiCam is the newer wave of cammie coming in for a lot of countries.

[Mithridates]

ALSO

People are saying he does not say his name. He does.

They ask for him to spell it and he shouts it out with his eyes closed.

S-A-N..B-O-R-N-HYPHON-H-U-L

Sanborn-Hul

EDIT: I THINK I FOUND HIS FACEBOOK PAGE.

Malcolm Sanborn-Hum

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=Sanborn-Hul&init=quick#/profile.php?id=503010231&ref=search&sid=1311090165.2501561030..1

It's hard to tell, but he looks very similar.

[Mithridates]

I sent a friend request to him with the following message

"I know this is very random, but I was watching this video.
h t t p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_acjSiJRbo
This person is arrested during a protest during the G20 rally in Pittsburgh. Someone asked them to say their name and they said "Sanborn-Hum" they then spelled it out to that.
I did a facebook search, curious, and found this profile and a person who looks very familiar.

If this is you. I'd love to hear your story from this video.
h t t p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8CNa_viKg0
The video is quite short and we do not know what happened before.

Again, sorry if this is completely random and you are not this person. My best regards and I hope you have a nice day."

If I get any response I will make a thread about it.

[Unintelligable Name]

MultiCam is the newer wave of cammie coming in for a lot of countries.

The funny part it is already outdated and Gen 2 is about to be released.

[thinkingman]

So would it not be wise to stop these provacateurs and declare citizen arrest on them, and stop them in there tracks?

~thinkingman

[thinkingman]

I was also thinking that if we had a parabolic dish we could reflect the blast back at them.

~thinkingman

[chris killz blog]

good eye that's him

[chris killz blog]

Panel Explores Psychological Effects of Torture
November 21, 2008 - 1:00am
http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2008/11/21/panel-explores-psychological-effects-torture   
Last night, Cornell students, staff, faculty and Ithaca locals came together in Kaufmann Auditorium for a panel discussion that featured doctors from the Bellevue/NYU Program for Survivors of Torture. The program provides comprehensive care for victims of torture and aspires to raise public consciousness about such issues. The Campus Anti-War Network, the Committee on U.S.-Latin American Relations and Amnesty International sponsored the event.

The panel included Dr. Allen Keller, who oversees and coordinates medical programs for Survivors of Torture, Dr. Samantha Stewart, the program’s psychiatrist and Dr. Homer Venters, the attending physician of the program.

Keller launched the panel with a query to the audience: “How would you define health?” He said that one student’s definition, which stated that health is the “absence of disease,” is problematic, because it does not account for a full trajectory of suffering that includes physical, psychological and social aspects that afflict patients.

Keller used real-life examples to highlight the different types of suffering that patients in the Survivors for Torture Program face.Grave consequences: Dr. Allen Keller speaks at “Survivors of Torture,” a series of lectures followed by a panel discussion addressing the unforeseen relations between the practice of torture, its psycho-medical consequences, and U.S. Foreign and Domestic Policies in KaufmanGrave consequences: Dr. Allen Keller speaks at “Survivors of Torture,” a series of lectures followed by a panel discussion addressing the unforeseen relations between the practice of torture, its psycho-medical consequences, and U.S. Foreign and Domestic Policies in Kaufman

One man, who emigrated from Asia to Afghanistan to work, tried to flee the country when the U.S. invaded. He was detained at the border, though, when he did not have a passport. He was turned over to U.S. officials and sent to Guantanamo Bay.

In Guantanamo, the detainee was forced to stand in a cage with his hands exposed at all times for fear of being beaten, interrogated in extremely hot or cold rooms and subjected to sexual humiliation, including an incident in which he was smeared with menstrual blood. He was eventually released free of charge after signing a forced confession, according to Keller.

Keller said he does not doubt credibility when it comes to stories like this one after working with so many patients who have been subjected to torture of this nature.

“Never have I seen a place where so many resources were invested to break an individual’s humanity,” Keller said. “Torture isn’t often about eliciting information. It is dubious at best.”

Such torture can result in depression and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. PTSD results when a person experiences a certain degree of horror and helplessness during a trauma, leading to continued feelings of hyper-arousal, re-experiencing the trauma and emotional and social numbness, according to Stewart.

Stewart shared the story of one of her patients, a student from Turkey who came to the U.S. on a student visa. After earning his MBA, he became engaged to an American woman and applied for a marriage visa. Although he followed the proper immigration procedures, he was detained, was separated from his partner and lost his house and job.

“[People] with pre-torture brains imagine that going through that would teach us some deeper meaning in life,” Stewart said. “Counter to those of us who have not been through this [who] might expect the opposite, going through something like this makes you feel like there’s no meaning.”

Cases like these are not few and far between. Immigration detention is the quickest, fastest growing form of detention in the U.S.

U.S. Immi­gration and Customs Enforcement detains immigrants in raids or when they enter the country if they do not have the proper documentation, according to Venters.

At any given time, there are 30,000 immigrants in detention. Immigrants who attempt to enter the U.S. with false documentation, at times because they are trying to escape a punitive government in their own countries, are charged with breaking the law and detained. Last year 300,000 people went through this system, according to Venters.

“Laws are taking very overt steps to criminalize immigrants society wide … like how the war on drugs criminalized drug users,” said Venters.

In the final discussion section of the lecture, questions were raised about whether or not President-Elect Barack Obama’s administration would allow detained immigrants exercise the right to healthcare, a right which they are currently denied.

“There is a lot of horror but there is a lot of hope. Don’t presume that if we don’t speak out about torture, someone else will,” said Keller.

Andres Mendoza ’10, member of the Campus Anti-War Network, said that he organized the panel in order to reflect on the connection between the subjectivity of torture and its larger implications.

“From the beginning, I was trying to build a connection between torture, which is a personal experience, and foreign and domestic policies, which are things we believe we can even control, which are too large to deal with,” said Mendoza.

Malcolm Sanborn-Hum ’11, another member of CAN who helped organize the panel said that he wanted to bring the panel as part of CAN’s efforts.

“[It] struck me as a really important topic that needs to be brought up in our discourse. The U.S. is not subtle in its torture. We are ultimately accountable for this — it’s our taxpayer money that is detaining 300,000 people,” he said.
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Campus Antiwar Network
Category:    
Organizations - Political Organizations
Description:    
Campus Antiwar Network is the largest and leading independent, democratic, grassroots network of students opposing the occupation of Iraq and military recruiters in our schools at campuses all over the country. Since our formation before the war in Iraq began, our unapologetic opposition to the U.S. government's project of conquest and plunder in the Middle East, along with its horrible consequences at home, has been unwavering.

Our goal is to unite all antiwar students on colleges and high schools alike to democratically build a broad antiwar and counter-recruitment movement to help bring the troops home now. To this end, we've had a strong presence at every national antiwar demonstration and continue to build countless local actions. We've had national and regional activist conferences and toured GI war resisters around the country.

And in one of the most important developments for student antiwar activism this past year, we've helped to spearhead the counter- recruitment movement on campuses, directly challenging the military in its diminishing ability to carry out the immoral and illegal occupation of Iraq. Leading walkouts of hundreds of students, we've already kicked military recruiters off of Seattle Central Community College, City College of New York, San Francisco State University, Southern Connecticut State University, University of California at Santa Cruz, University of Illinois in Chicago, and others.

Join us in turning the growing antiwar sentiment across the country into antiwar activism, and stopping the militarization of our schools and unjust war on innocent people. The students united will never be defeated!

A history of CAN - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_Antiwar_Network

[chris killz blog]

from wikipedia- 

Repression

A number of people involved with the Campus Antiwar Network have faced legal or disciplinary consequences of various kinds for their antiwar activism. These people have been the centers of nationwide defense campaigns on the part of CAN, which argues that their cases prove the threat counter-recruitment poses to the powers that be.

    * In March 2004, at City College of New York, four people were arrested at a counter-recruitment protest (after twice, at earlier protests, forcing recruiters off campus) for allegedly assaulting campus security, though they claim that the reverse was the case. One, Hadas Thier, was banned from campus and suspended. Charges have since been dropped.[22]

    * In March 2005, three student activists, Katrina Yeaw, Michael Hoffman and Pardis Esmaeili, from San Francisco State University received letters stating that the administration had received a complaint from the Chief of Public Safety for their involvement in a counter-recruitment protest on campus and that each student must meet individually with Judicial Affairs. The following week the six student organizations that endorsed the demonstration received letters stating that disciplinary proceedings were going forward against them. The charges against four of the groups and three student activists were eventually dropped but the university went forward with hearing against the International Socialist Organization and Students Against War, convicting both groups of all charges against them in absentia. [23]

    * Charles Peterson at Holyoke Community College was pepper sprayed, banned from campus, and threatened with expulsion after allegedly assaulting a campus security officer while protesting military recruiters; he claims that he merely grabbed back a sign the officer took from a fellow protester. Charges have since been dropped.[24]

    * Tariq Khan, a student at George Mason University and Air Force veteran, was arrested for standing near recruiters with a sign saying "Recruiters Tell Lies" taped to his shirt on the charge of trespassing and disorderly conduct. Khan is a Pakistani-American; he reported that one arresting officer told him, "You people are the most violent people in the world." Charges have since been dropped.[24]

    * Dave Airhart, a student at Kent State and a Marine veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, was fined by city police and threatened with expulsion after hanging a banner with an antiwar message on a climbing wall set up on campus by military recruiters. Charges have since been dropped.[25]

    * Seven students at Hampton University were punished for participating in an unauthorized protest and "proselytizing" during a walkout on November 2, 2005. The students were initially summoned for an administrative hearing on November 21 to present a case against their expulsion, with three days notice, but it was then postponed to December 2, and finally the school decided only to impose community service.[26]

    * Lauren Giaccone and Brian Kelly, students at Pace University, yelled "war criminal" during a speech by Bill Clinton at their school on March 5, 2006. They were briefly detained by the secret service, and threatened with expulsion for failure to register the protest and their organizations. Charges have since been dropped, though the students have been threatened with punishment should they continue to organize protests.[27]

    * A group of Anti-war students in this organization stormed into the library of the University of North Texas. Some of the students covered themselves in fake blood and attempted to shock and horrify the students in the library with their "statement" on the Iraq war. Sadly, despite their intentions, there were a number of International students who have lived in countries who actually do suffer roadside bombs and urban violence on a frequent basis. Some of the international students were unappreciative of the bourgeoisie, American white kids trying get shock value from emulating something that to them is a much too true reality in their lives. Videos available on Youtube, although the sound has been removed because copyrighted content was used for audio. While there were no arrests made, the campus authorities were perturbed by these demonstrators.

"Credible Threat" to National Security

On April 5th 2005, Santa Cruz students and members of the Campus Antiwar Network led a major demonstration on the campus of UC Santa Cruz. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, “about a dozen protesters entered a career fair in a campus building and surrounded a table where military recruiters sat, preventing other students from talking with them. [And] more than 300 people demonstrated outside. In the jostling that ensued, a career- center staffer was slightly injured.” The protest had significant results, according to Kristin Anderson, a member of the Campus Antiwar Network. She believes that counter recruitment “has gotten popular because it gives students something concrete they can do” and students are able to make connections if they see their fellow classmates being tempted by recruiters. UC Santa Cruz antiwar group, “Members of Students Against War” rallied outside of the “San Francisco's Civic Center” wearing T-shirts reading, "Credible Threat.” This was done to mock the “Pentagon spymasters' assessment of the group's activities.” [28]
[28]“Santa Cruz students nurture anti-war role / Pentagon listing has made them 'credible'.” The San Francisco Chronicle: Mar 15, 2006. pg. A.1




I guess we could call CAN and they should have the story on this.

[rawiron1]

I think the abduction was staged.  Why grab just one random protester?  I think they were trying to get the crowd to react, attack them.  Just seemed too random.

Jason

[RicardoCasio]

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[Overcast]

This is why Obama's Zionist Svengali, the White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, is seeking to have gun ownership curtailed - to make the military takeover easier. Meantime, more people are seeking to be armed and requests for concealed weapon permits in Florida alone are up 42 per cent in 45 days with the consequences of the economic turmoil in mind.

Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.
Heinrich Himmler


Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.
Dianne Feinstein

I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by the police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state.
Michael Dukakis

Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.
Sarah Brady


The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will loose.
James Earl Jones

My personal observation: Guns have kill more people - BY FAR - in the hands of Government, than in the hands of it's citizens.

[luckee1]

Those are not national guard. They are missing rank insignia branch of service tape on their shirt. The uniform resembles the marine uniform but their uniform does not have that velcro on the shoulders, the army ACU does but they alway have the patch of their unit on it. These guys are either mercs or cops the other alternative? a foreign soldier here as an "observer".

Outstanding!!  that is not army, that is either Marine Corps or Navy!  Rolling of the sleeves are the tell!

But the trousers are not bloused which is required on Marine's uniforms

[Georgiacopguy]

When we trained for G8 In St Simons Island, we were trained to identify the most violent person or to locate the leadership. We would then grab that person, and if they were de facto leadership, the other rioters would usually break ranks, and begin chanting "let them go" and full on assaults would diminish. If they were simply a violent protester, we had one less person throwing crap at us.

In the drudge video, it could indeed be real. People have been saying look at the car, look at the unis, look, no insignia. But when we trained, we didn't;t have rank and insignia, hell, some agencies didn't even have agency patches. We did that to prevent our ranking officers from being targeted by rioters. But really, the true purpose was to minimize complaints, or the possibility of the lawyers with cameras from being able to identify the fascists in question.

 Back to the drudge video, those officers were obviously detached fro the main contingent, were not armed well, not wearing riot gear, and were too far out front. So they grabbed who they could, stuffed him in a car, and got out of dodge. The possibility exists he was one of theirs, and they were extracting him, but I have my doubts. So the mixmatch of uniforms is not out of line, the lack of insignia is not out of line from what i know, and par for the course. Military and Fed units which were present at my G* routinely wore uniforms that were not their normal issue. I saw regular army wearing riot gear in black. So this whole mentality of well, they aren't wearing multicam or this or that, is just right out erroneous. They make the rules, they do as they please, that much should be obvious, so what makes us think they wont change up unis for an op???

The car they got into was an obviousunmarked car,if you look at the B pillar, its the same color as the rest of the car. Civilian cars, the B Pillar would be black, police specials that B pillar is the same color as the car body.

I think the abduction was staged.  Why grab just one random protester?  I think they were trying to get the crowd to react, attack them.  Just seemed too random.

Jason

[Ilsa]

By the way - here is another video I saw, where I was wondering if this is what caused the police to want to snatch them.
 Towards the end, there are a guy with black shirt and red bananna, with a guy in black with blue backpack, and they are pushing a dumpster down a hill towards police.

However... it's not the same guy. Note that this Sanborn Hul man has bluejeans on, while the person in the video has black pants and a prominent belt.
  With the guy with a backpack - you can't tell. His backpack looks less blue in the video than in the military snatch video.

http://www.post-gazette.com/multimedia/?videoID=102353

[chris killz blog]

[mr anderson]

I know riots are not the answer, but dammit if I was there that would make me want to rush a pig.

....What is with some people on here.

First the census workers and now G20. We are non-violent here!

[motherpuncher22]

....What is with some people on here.

First the census workers and now G20. We are non-violent here!

And that's why you will never change anything... isn't it obvious by now that they don't care about people standing in the streets with signs... so I know I'm in the minority on this board but signs won't accomplish anything, so go ahead and call me a Fed or whatever lame ass excuse you guys use for someone who is just tired of the peaceful resistance not accomplishing anything... I've been to an end the fed rally and numerous tea parties and let me tell you what has changed after every one of them...NOTHING... I'm not saying let's go out and start hurting people, but at what point do you realize that your signs mean nothing to them? If we just let them beat us down time after time then what exactly are we accomplishing? A little push back is what is going to get them to realize that we are not going to let them destroy our lives.

[chris killz blog]

And that's why you will never change anything... isn't it obvious by now that they don't care about people standing in the streets with signs... so I know I'm in the minority on this board but signs won't accomplish anything, so go ahead and call me a Fed or whatever lame ass excuse you guys use for someone who is just tired of the peaceful resistance not accomplishing anything... I've been to an end the fed rally and numerous tea parties and let me tell you what has changed after every one of them...NOTHING... I'm not saying let's go out and start hurting people, but at what point do you realize that your signs mean nothing to them? If we just let them beat us down time after time then what exactly are we accomplishing? A little push back is what is going to get them to realize that we are not going to let them destroy our lives.

I won't call you a fed, but I'll call you a loser.

You fail dude.  No wonder you can't get anything accomplished with that attitude.  A little push back?

You understand nothing.  If you did, you would understand that's counterproductive without the support of the people.  Do you know what counterproductive is? 

You can't win the hearts and minds of the people without the Infowar first.  Sorry dude, no one ever said this was going to be easy.

[motherpuncher22]

Do I know what counterproductive is?  Yeah, I'm not a child, but thanks for the belittling rant, just what I needed! Also, I fight the info war everyday, but it doesn't mean I can't be fed up with what's happening. And everyone's "holier than thou" attitude within the truth movement is what really holds us back from accomplishing anything. Your reply is the epitome of what I mean, the second someone has a differing opinion you start the name calling and letting everyone know how right you are and wrong they are. Congratulations on being the man. Of course this isn't going to be easy, but thanks for the encouraging words of wisdom

[Unintelligable Name]

Motherpuncher22 is right in that they do not care, however he's wrong to say the protests and media ultimately have no effect. The controllers couldn't give a shit about a little push back either, so long as the police and military are there to soak up the damage like a shield.

The course of action ought to be to target the general population, but more specifically the decision makers and players in the New World Order system. That includes the police and military.

Reread the declaration of Independence, all these steps have to come first before the 'insert various 'get it on' statement'

[Col3_11n12]

Harconen's observation with the shoes is a good one.

[mr anderson]

And that's why you will never change anything... isn't it obvious by now that they don't care about people standing in the streets with signs... so I know I'm in the minority on this board but signs won't accomplish anything, so go ahead and call me a Fed or whatever lame ass excuse you guys use for someone who is just tired of the peaceful resistance not accomplishing anything... I've been to an end the fed rally and numerous tea parties and let me tell you what has changed after every one of them...NOTHING... I'm not saying let's go out and start hurting people, but at what point do you realize that your signs mean nothing to them? If we just let them beat us down time after time then what exactly are we accomplishing? A little push back is what is going to get them to realize that we are not going to let them destroy our lives.

What a joke..

And busting up banks, hurling bins at police, provocateuring crowds is productive? I'm sure getting arrested for a "little push" back is really productive aswell.

Funny how they needed to kill MLK to shut him up and his non-violent ways instead of getting him to lash out with a "little push back".

How do you expect to get police and military on our side with a "little push back"? That'll only confirm their brainwashed training that indeed there are terrorists out there when infact there is none.

So you can run along with your black bloc or other resistance groups and "push back". So how far you get ok?

The very fact that there are agent provocateurs...THE VERY FACT they are there to disrupt peaceful protest means that that message of non-violent resistance and opposition means we are having an affect. I'd like to see how you'd project 9/11 truth with a "little push back". 9/11 truth is 100% peaceful and look how many criminals have been confronted and hounded over it.

Many, many 9/11 truth advocates have been set-up, harassed and threatened because of their peaceful ways.

So while your brothers and sisters go out to protest peacefully...you push back. While they are at home enacting their 2nd amendment rights only for defence and not offence, you push back.