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« on: September 23, 2009, 10:14:56 AM »

Forced Vaccine Prevention
http://www.globalgulag.com/?p=297
September 23rd, 2009

Richard Mack, former Sheriff of Graham County, Arizona, explains how county sheriffs across the country can stop forced or mandatory vaccinations. Sheriffs’ power supercedes federal regulatory programs, as Sheriffs are NOT agents of the federal government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzC7dmyKG4E&feature=player_embedded

Yes, your local sheriff has the authority to stop mandatory vaccinations, quarantines in detention facilities, checkpoints and anything that the Federal Government mandates in your state, county and locality. The authority of the sheriff supercedes any and all Federal agencies, even the President of the United States. No Federal authority can impose anything on your county without the express permission of the Sheriff, who is the highest elected official in your county. If the feds try to impose anything on you, your property, or anything, for that matter, contact your local sheriff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60&feature=player_embedded

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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 11:24:09 AM »

Forced Vaccine Prevention
http://www.globalgulag.com/?p=297
September 23rd, 2009

Richard Mack, former Sheriff of Graham County, Arizona, explains how county sheriffs across the country can stop forced or mandatory vaccinations. Sheriffs’ power supercedes federal regulatory programs, as Sheriffs are NOT agents of the federal government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzC7dmyKG4E&feature=player_embedded

Yes, your local sheriff has the authority to stop mandatory vaccinations, quarantines in detention facilities, checkpoints and anything that the Federal Government mandates in your state, county and locality. The authority of the sheriff supercedes any and all Federal agencies, even the President of the United States. No Federal authority can impose anything on your county without the express permission of the Sheriff, who is the highest elected official in your county. If the feds try to impose anything on you, your property, or anything, for that matter, contact your local sheriff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60&feature=player_embedded



 Route,

Everything you've written here is absolute fact. If anyone would know the power of the county, it would be Richard Mack! He went to the Supreme Court over the Brady Law, and got the Brady overturned using the 10th amendment... you didn't hear about this in the mainstream press however, because by that time the NRA and the globalists had implemented Insta-Check...

Run with it, big guy!

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 11:44:51 AM »

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Everything you've written here is absolute fact. If anyone would know the power of the county, it would be Richard Mack! He went to the Supreme Court over the Brady Law, and got the Brady overturned using the 10th amendment... you didn't hear about this in the mainstream press however, because by that time the NRA and the globalists had implemented Insta-Check...

Run with it, big guy!

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Thanks for your input JT.

I had no doubt about Sheriff Mack's accuracy as he can speak for himself very well. Grin

I just wanted to be sure that what I had written fit accurately both from what he said and Constitutionally.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 12:16:22 PM »


I am amazed, I admit to being ignorent to this fact.

Could this be the reason that the Fed has stated they will give Fed powers to cops if need be, if so would they be under fed jurisdiction and this point would be mute.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 12:28:34 PM »

I am amazed, I admit to being ignorent to this fact.

Could this be the reason that the Fed has stated they will give Fed powers to cops if need be, if so would they be under fed jurisdiction and this point would be mute.

Why would any sheriff accept federal powers when his authority is already greater than any fed?

I am assuming you might have meant sheriffs when you said cops. But even federalized cops are beneath the sheriff and cannot operate in any county without permission from the sheriff.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 12:42:41 PM »

Why would any sheriff accept federal powers when his authority is already greater than any fed?

I am assuming you might have meant sheriffs when you said cops. But even federalized cops are beneath the sheriff and cannot operate in any county without permission from the sheriff.
Thank you for clearing this up. I had read a post stating that the FED will exert fed power to cops, I assume in times of so called disaters, national emergencys etc.
This does not include Sherrifs, OK, understood. My problem with this is how many sherrifs will stand up to the Fed. I may be wrong but doesn't FEMA take president over any and all law enforcemnt agencys in time of a so called national emergency.

P.S. * I can not find Sherrifs included in this, however it appears their powers are unlimited?Huh??

Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)



What is the Federal Emergency Management Agency? Simply put, it is the "secret government". This agency has powers and authority that go well beyond any other agency in the nation. What can FEMA do? It can suspend laws. It can move entire populations. It can arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and can hold them without a trial. It can seize property, food supplies, and transportation systems. And it can even suspend the Constitution of the United States.

When the first concept had been  presented, its original mission was to assure the survivability of the United States Government in the event of a nuclear attack. It's secondary function was to be a Federal coordinating body during times of domestic disasters. These disasters consisted of earthquakes, floods, and hurricanes.

The "secret" black helicopters that are reported throughout the US, mainly in the West California, Washington, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and Colorado areas are flown by FEMA personnel. It has been given the responsibility for many new national disasters such as forest fires, home heating emergencies, refugee situations, riots, and emergency planning for nuclear and toxic incidents. It works together with the Sixth Army in the West.

A series of Executive Orders (EO) was used to create FEMA. It does not matter whether an EO is Constitutional or not, it becomes a law simply by being published in the Federal Registry. These orders go around Congress.
 



List of Executive Orders

Executive Order Number
 Meaning
 
10990
 Allows the government to take control over all modes of transportation, highways, and seaports.
 
10995
 Allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
 
10997
 Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.
 
10998
 Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
 
11000
 Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
 
11001
 Allows the government to take over all health, education, and welfare functions.
 
11002
 Designates the Postmaster General to operate national registration of all persons.
 
11003
 Allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
 
11004
 Allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
 
11005
 Allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.
 
11051
 Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
 
11310
 Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
 
11049
 Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
 
11921
 Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and flow of money in the U.S.A. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
 
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2009, 02:14:19 PM »


I guess I'm way of course here, thats OK it won't be the first time.

I am guessing, but it seems to be heading towards forced vaccination to avoid a pandemic. Am I on track, if so is FEMA got their mits in this, or will they, or am I lost in this ball of wax.

Guys, I'm not attempting to bother anyone here, you see I have this problem when it comes to the FED. and the present regime and their tactics. I do not disagree with the fact Sherrifs have more authority than the FEDS, I beleive you.
My distrust in our illustrious leaders leads me to question what alternative the Feds would turn to in enforcing their forced vaccines.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2009, 02:26:40 PM »

I guess I'm way of course here, thats OK it won't be the first time.

I am guessing, but it seems to be heading towards forced vaccination to avoid a pandemic. Am I on track, if so is FEMA got their mits in this, or will they, or am I lost in this ball of wax.

Guys, I'm not attempting to bother anyone here, you see I have this problem when it comes to the FED. and the present regime and their tactics. I do not disagree with the fact Sherrifs have more authority than the FEDS, I believe you.
My distrust in our illustrious leaders leads me to question what alternative the Feds would turn to in enforcing their forced vaccines.
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This is true in most counties in the country, however the Sheriff can relinquish power to the Feds, and especially true in counties where the sheriff is an appointed position... it was never ever supposed to be an appointed position and in most cases is not. He has the power in any case to say NO... and in order to make it stick he would activating the posse... the county militia. The Sheriff is the chief Militia officer in the county.

The sheriff is elected directly by the people, and his mandate is clear... he is to serve and protect the people of his county... his only mandate is the Constitution of the United States, as set forth in the Constitution of the State in which he serves...

The federal government came into Graham County Arizona in 1994 and told Sheriff Richard Mack that he would do background checks on every gun purchase in his county... he told them to sh!t in fall back in it... there would be no imposition of unfunded federal mandates without state law to back it in his county. He promptly sued the federal government and it went to the Supreme Court on 10th amendment grounds... he won!

Most good sheriffs understand that it isn't the Second Amendment that he is in control of necessarily, since that is mandated by the Constitution to the people... but as proved by Richard Mack's precedent, the sheriff can wield the 10th amendment to great constitutional effect.

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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2009, 02:38:14 PM »

JT.

Sheriff Mack, sounds like a heck of a guy, wish we had more like him.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 02:53:55 PM »

JT.

Sheriff Mack, sounds like a heck of a guy, wish we had more like him.
Thanks.

Here in Summit County Colorado, we have just such a sheriff... Sheriff John Miner! Thank God when a federal warrant is issued it has to go through his office or Lord knows where I'd be right now... that whole thing with the DEA and all...

Two years ago the Denver water Board, who owns the dam and reservoir just east of where I live attempted to use federal/state/DHS power to close the only alternate east-west through road in the county which goes over the dam, because of a "bomb threat". The water board unilaterally using this federal power closed the road to any and all traffic... and as they proposed it, for good!

I never saw Sheriff Minor so mad in my life, they did it without consulting him first... within 48 hours the Denver water Board backed down, the feds were gone, and two County Sheriff's deputies were posted on either side of the dam. Within a month pop-up barricades had been installed at each end, a buoy buffer zone around the water side of the dam had been installed with tamper sensors and a guard station. Any large vehicles are diverted to the highway now, but other than that everything was back to normal... all coordinated through the Sheriff's office... and paid for by the Denver water department... this is the power of the county sheriff, probably the most important vote you cast every election!

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 04:32:18 PM »

I like the new subject title. Mind if I borrow it? Grin
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 04:38:04 PM »

The sheriff has failed to roll-back tyranny again and again.

When the armored vehicles and humvees start showing up, you think the people who are "just following orders in the chain of command" are going to care about some sheriff?

Last I checked they were being taught to ignore police or take them down during drills.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2009, 04:47:39 PM »

This was posted a while back but it needs to be reposted here:

THE SHERIFF - MORE POWER THAN THE PRESIDENT


by Alan Stang
March 20, 2009
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For many years, the people’s attention in the Battle for America has been directed toward the federal government and its offices. Candidates stand for the House and the Senate. Patriotic groups publish voting records of incumbents. Considerable time, effort and money are expended in support of candidates for President. After decades of such commendable activity, the record shows it is an utter failure. The danger to the nation is worse than it ever was.

For many of those years, Republicrud bosses whined that if the people would only give them control of the federal government, they would undo Democrud damage and restore Free Enterprise. Finally, the people gave it to them. Remember? The Republicruds controlled the House, the Senate and the Oval Office long enough to turn the country around. What happened? The Republicruds made our problems much worse. Their spending made the profligate drunken sailor look like Scrooge. They deserved it when the people kicked them out. They lost all credibility.

Yes, there is Dr. Ron Paul. But Dr. No is a political aberration. Time and again, he stands alone. He has neither men’s room problems nor woman problems. He doesn’t take congressional retirement. He actually returns “money” (computer entries) to the federal treasury. He proposes abolishing the Fed and the income tax and replacing them with nothing. In foreign affairs he suggests that we mind our own business. Imagine! But, again, he is an aberration.

Why? Certainly one reason has to be that we ship the successful congressional candidate off to the District of Corruption. However good the new congressman may have been when he or she boarded the plane to the District; he is subjected to intoxicating blandishments when he arrives in the enemy camp.

Soon, he succumbs to the blandishments, maybe even making himself blackmailable, and begins to vote as the party boss says, without even reading the bills. Instead of representing the people of his congressional district in the District of Criminals, he represents the D.C. to the C.D. He or she now is one of the boys or the girls. It has happened hundreds of times.

So, if the long, heroic effort to elect federal legislators has failed, does there remain any governmental Horatius who can stand in the gap; who can lead the Battle for America and restore the Constitution? There is. Lock and load, mount up and prepare for the return of the sheriff.

My guess is that in the minds of many Americans the sheriff is an antiquated figure who lives in the movies. In the older movies he is the hero; he is Gary Cooper in “High Noon,” awaiting the train that will bring killer Frank Miller back to town. In the new ones, he is the southern sheriff, even bigger than Rosie O’Donnell, sneering, sadistic, racist, violent, etc. He has no modern relevance.

But now here comes Sheriff Richard Mack, elected and re-elected in Graham County, Arizona, where he served for eight years. During his tenure, three federal agents came to a meeting of Arizona sheriffs and told them in certain terms how they would be dragooned as unpaid federal bureaucrats and administer the new, federal Brady gun registration law.

The law was named of course for Ronald Reagan’s press secretary, who was severely wounded in the immensely suspicious attempt to assassinate the President. Since then, Mrs. Brady has become a leader of the campaign for Nazi gun confiscation. I don’t know whether she was as crazy before the shootings as she is now. Just one more increment of lunacy and they would have to lock her up.

Richard Mack and the other Arizona sheriffs at the meeting rebelled. Sheriff Richard says the language he heard – in which he did not participate – could not be repeated in the presence of genteel Christian ladies, so we can’t tell you here what the sheriffs said. But Sheriff Mack did take the government to court. He sued the United States, and Sheriff Jay Printz of Montana joined him as plaintiff.

On June 27th, 1997, the sheriffs won; in Printz v. U.S. (521 U.S. 898) the U.S. Supreme Court struck Brady down. Associate Justice Antonin Scalia wrote the ruling for the Court, in which he explained our system of government at length. The justly revered system of checks and balances is the key:

“. . . The great innovation of this design was that ‘our citizens would have two political capacities, one state and one federal, each protected from incursion by the other’” – “a legal system unprecedented in form and design, establishing two orders of government, each with its own direct relationship, its own privity, its own set of mutual rights and obligations to the people who sustain it and are governed by it.” (P. 920)

Scalia quotes President James Madison, “father” of the Constitution: “[T]he local or municipal authorities form distinct and independent portions of the supremacy, no more subject, within their respective spheres, to the general authority than the general authority is subject to them, within its own sphere.” The Federalist, No. 39 at 245.

Again and again, Justice Scalia pounds the point home (page 921): “This separation of the two spheres is one of the Constitution’s structural protections of liberty: ‘Just as the separation and independence of the coordinate branches of the Federal Government serve to prevent the accumulation of excessive power in any one branch, a healthy balance of power between the States and the Federal Government will reduce the risk of tyranny and abuse from either front.’. . .” Gregory, 501 U.S. at 458.

He quotes President Madison again: “In the compound republic of America, the power surrendered by the people is first divided between two distinct governments, and then the portion allotted to each subdivided among distinct and separate departments. Hence a double security arises to the rights of the people. The different governments will control each other, at the same time that each will be controlled by itself.” (P. 922)

No one could make this any clearer. The primary purpose of the Fathers was to prevent someone from grabbing all the power. When that happens, they knew, the result is arbitrary, confiscatory, government, the kind Tom Jefferson described in the Declaration of Independence. We would call it totalitarian.

Madison explains: “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.” Federalist No. 48, February 1, 1788.

To prevent that from happening, they divided the power. First, they divided the federal power into three parts: the executive, the legislative and the judicial. They would bicker among themselves, so that no one of them could seize all the power the Constitution grants to the federal government.

The Founders divided the power even more. They set the limited power the Constitution grants the “general authority,” Madison’s term for the federal government, against the vast residual powers of the states. Each sphere of government, state and federal, would be supreme in its own sphere. Neither could control the other. Each protects itself from intervention by the other. Each has its own laws and rules.

Madison says this: “Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” Loc. Cit.

What does all this mean today in the Battle for America? Sheriff Mack says it proves that the sheriff is the highest governmental authority in his county. Within that jurisdiction – inside his county – the sheriff has more power than the governor of his state. Indeed, the sheriff has more power in his county than the President of the United States. In his county, he can overrule the President and kick his people out. Remember, the President has few and limited powers.

What? The sheriff can do that? He’s not just a character in a movie? That’s right. Not only can the sheriff do that; sheriffs have already done that, more than once. Most Americans are not aware of that because lying, conspiracy scumbags like Rush Humbug, Shallow Sean Hannitwerp and Hugh Blewitt (a lawyer) etc., haven’t told them.

Remember, the office of sheriff has a pedigree so long, we are not positive about when it was created. We think it was in the Ninth Century in England. We do know that each land district, or “shire,” was governed by a “reeve.” The sheriff of Nottingham became famous. At first, the king appointed them. With few exceptions, our American shire reeves are elected by the people.

In 1997, in Nye County, Nevada, federal agents arrived to seize cattle that belonged to rancher Wayne Hage. The sheriff gave them a choice: skedaddle or be arrested. They skedaddled. The cows stayed where they were. Wyoming sheriffs have told federal agencies they must check with the respective sheriff before they serve any papers, make any arrests or confiscate any property.

In Idaho, a 74-year-old rancher shot an endangered gray wolf which had killed one of his calves. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service sent three armed agents to serve a warrant. Lemhi County Sheriff Brett Barslou said that was “inappropriate, heavy-handed and dangerously close to excessive force.” More than 500 people turned out for a rally in the small towns of Challis and Salmon to support the sheriff and the rancher and to tell the federal government to back off.

While Richard Mack was sheriff of Graham County, Arizona, a bridge washed out. Parents had to drive twenty six miles to get their kids to school half a mile across the river. But the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers wouldn’t fix it. First they had to do an “environmental impact study,” to replace a bridge already there. They were in no hurry. The study would take a mere ten years.

The people’s suffering reached the board of supervisors. The board voted to dredge the river and fix the bridge. The feds warned that they would be fined $50,000 per day if they tried. The supervisors hesitated. Sheriff Mack promised them and the workers protection and pledged to call out a posse for the purpose if necessary. They built the bridge and the Corps of Engineers faded. The board never paid a dime.

So the long dormant spirit of America is reviving. The states are beginning to adopt Tenth Amendment resolutions, using powers they have always had. The people are restoring our long unbalanced constitutional system. There is something “blowin’ in the wind,” but it isn’t what Bob Dylan thought it was. Recently, Sheriff Mack addressed 570 people in Fredericksburg, Texas. He reports that the reception was “beyond fantastic.”

What can you do? For once we are not just complaining. There is a plan. I do not argue that you should forget about Congress. Not at all; if you see an opportunity there, take it. Always remember that right now it is run by people like Barney the Bugger of Taxachusetts, who will be elected by moronth in hith dithtrict until he dieth of AIDS.

Most of the time, when you approach your congressman, you come to complain. In the new crusade, you will approach your sheriff and tell him that he is not only handsome, charming and overwhelmingly masculine, but also that he has powers he may not be aware of. You have come to tell him what they are and to back him up. My guess is, when you tell him that, he will not kick you out.

Tell him you expect him to return the courtesy when the Nazis come from the District of Criminals to get the guns. Tell him you are ready in a minute to serve under his direction in a posse. He will not move to Washington and be corrupted. He will stay there with you. Show him the ten orders the Oath Keepers will not obey. The Oath Keepers are retired and active duty military and police. Their web site is oath-keepers.blogspot.com. The first order they promise to disobey is an order to disarm you.

Put him together with Sheriff Mack. You will find him at sheriffmack.com. His telephone numbers are 928 792-4340 and 928 792-3888. Bring the sheriff to your town to speak. He will explain all this. Invite your own sheriff. At the meeting I attended, the local sheriff and chief of police were there and loved what they heard. No one dislikes hearing how important he is.

What if your sheriff is stupid or a federal factotum? That is what you will find in many big cities. I once interviewed Los Angeles County Sheriff Peter Pitchess, who said no one should have a hand gun. I asked him how a five foot lady alone in bed could defend herself from a rapist. Realizing he was perilously close to making himself look even dumber than he did usually, Pitchess conceded she could have a long gun.

I brightened. A street sweeper isn’t really the best weapon for close quarters, but it would give the lady a chance. Unfortunately, Pitchess added the word, “unloaded.” I asked him what that five foot lady with an unloaded shotgun could do against a six foot rapist. A police captain sat beside Pitchess during the interview. His job was to extricate Peter from the jams he persisted on getting himself into. The police captain extruded a barrage of miasma. It was effective. I did not get an answer.

In such cases, says Sheriff Mack, move to a county where the sheriff is receptive. Many more will be. For instance, in Texas there are 254 counties. Each has a sheriff. If it is feasible to do so, run for sheriff yourself. Even your wife will be impressed when she sees you with a hog leg on your hip and a star on your vest. Imagine the intense joy of meeting IRS Communists or BATFE Nazis at the county line and denying them admission.

The Battle for America will be decided in your county at your front door. If you act now, later you will not need to “fill your hand.”

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2009, 05:07:10 PM »

WOW!  I think that all of us, barring JT, need to go talk to our respective sheriffs!  I say barring JT, because he is already friends with the sheriff.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 05:30:15 PM »

Videos of Sheriff Mack are great to hand out to your sheriffs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60
http://www.kickthemallout.com/article.php/Video-Sheriff_Mack_Sheriff_Power

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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2009, 10:26:27 PM »

The sheriff has failed to roll-back tyranny again and again.

When the armored vehicles and humvees start showing up, you think the people who are "just following orders in the chain of command" are going to care about some sheriff?

Last I checked they were being taught to ignore police or take them down during drills.

The ammo shortage, and the inability to get bullets, brass, powder, and primers, over the last year, even though the manufacturers of these items are pumping them out 24/7 like never before... tells me a lot about what is planned...

Even when the Iraq war was fully hot, and we were involved equally in Afghanistan five years ago, there was never any difficulty getting these items... I have been on a backorder list for powder and primers now for several months.

If all of the ammunition and components that are supposedly being gobbled up by the American people, are in actuality being stockpiled by the government infiltrators and invaders, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

In either case however, there are many places where lawful County politics are being practiced... I wouldn't want to be the brigade of men and equipment who come into this county with malice on their mind...

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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2009, 08:57:25 AM »

    
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No he isn't.

I am.

I dont give a tinkers damn about what some pig tells me I must or must not do. Anyone that obeys their sheriff when he decides to make it mandatory deserves what he or she gets.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2009, 10:12:25 AM »

   
No he isn't.

I am.

I dont give a tinkers damn about what some pig tells me I must or must not do. Anyone that obeys their sheriff when he decides to make it mandatory deserves what he or she gets.


You either don't understand what this thread is about or you didn't read it. It is not about the sheriff telling his/her constituents what to do, but telling the fed what to do and as the highest elected official of your county, how you can use the office to serve his/her constituents will of telling the feds to back off. But you are right that YOU have the last word. Now get busy because your sheriff is a public servant and tell him or her not to enforce any federal mandates of mandatory vaccinations.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2009, 10:15:49 AM »

You either don't understand what this thread is about or you didn't read it. It is not about the sheriff telling his/her constituents what to do, but telling the fed what to do and as the highest elected official of your county, how you can use the office to serve his/her constituents will of telling the feds to back off. But you are right that YOU have the last word. Now get busy because your sheriff is a public servant and tell him or her not to enforce any federal mandates of mandatory vaccinations.

Supas cannot do that.  Supas will summarily be kicked out of any conversation with any sheriff because Supas insists on calling all L/E pigs.  Even if they are good people, they all are pigs according to Supas.  Read the posts of Supas to verify my claim.
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2009, 10:31:34 AM »

Thanks aplenty! Smiley Will definitely be getting this info out not only to my county's sheriff, but of those to my family's in other cities as well! Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2009, 10:41:13 AM »

You either don't understand what this thread is about or you didn't read it. It is not about the sheriff telling his/her constituents what to do, but telling the fed what to do and as the highest elected official of your county, how you can use the office to serve his/her constituents will of telling the feds to back off. But you are right that YOU have the last word. Now get busy because your sheriff is a public servant and tell him or her not to enforce any federal mandates of mandatory vaccinations.

I think the point is quit relying on the government.... To defend you from the government.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2009, 10:47:40 AM »

What about counties without a Sheriff?  I remember seeing a thread on PP that mention a growing trend of no Sheriffs.
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2009, 10:54:00 AM »

You either don't understand what this thread is about or you didn't read it. It is not about the sheriff telling his/her constituents what to do, but telling the fed what to do and as the highest elected official of your county, how you can use the office to serve his/her constituents will of telling the feds to back off. But you are right that YOU have the last word. Now get busy because your sheriff is a public servant and tell him or her not to enforce any federal mandates of mandatory vaccinations.

Well, the way I see it, the sheriff is out of the loop, no matter what he or she says. Technically, the sheriff is the highest LEO in the county and outranks any fed or state pig that tries to put his snout where it doesn't belong.

But for practical purposes, he can't stop anything.

It seems that people still depend on technicalities when no one pays any attention to technicalities when those technicalities get in the way of what the Feral Government wants to have done. They will brush him aside like he wasn't even there.

Not enforcing any such federal mandates would be good for his health in this circumstance though.

These sheriffs  need to know that there will be consequences, not only from the federal .gov if he refuses to cooperates but from citizens if he does cooperate.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2009, 11:02:50 AM »

What about counties without a Sheriff?  I remember seeing a thread on PP that mention a growing trend of no Sheriffs.

Good point.  There is a also the problem where cities are annexing areas and properties outside of the city and in the county.  So the city police chief is the new sheriff.  City councils make the rules rather than the people voting on issues.

What is really sick about that, is the people who are moneyed and have nice properties in those areas never stood up to the encroachment of other areas until the Cities started annexing their own areas.  I know of a lady who does not get involved with issues until the issues affects her directly.  This is exactly what she deserves, as she is totally self involved.  But I cannot say that it is just in the case of her neighbors who will also be affected.  
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2009, 11:12:32 AM »

I have a question - would it be better to fax them, or email them?

The reason why I ask is b/c both have their advantages and disadvantages over the other - with emailing them, they could very well delete it like it's junk mail. OTOH - if you fax them, then they may not bother to look at the youtube links(as some, including myself, are sometimes lazy to type in these URLs in its entirety).

Anyhow - what you be the best means?
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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2009, 11:22:28 AM »

I have a question - would it be better to fax them, or email them?

The reason why I ask is b/c both have their advantages and disadvantages over the other - with emailing them, they could very well delete it like it's junk mail. OTOH - if you fax them, then they may not bother to look at the youtube links(as some, including myself, are sometimes lazy to type in these URLs in its entirety).

Anyhow - what you be the best means?

It wouldn't hurt to email and fax.
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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2009, 11:25:16 AM »

It wouldn't hurt to email and fax.

Thanks aplenty again!

Also - Dr Scott Johnson of sermonaudios.com/drscottjohnson has done some fantastic teachings on the swine/avian flus. I would definitely go to this site, type "swine flu" in the search box, and download his PDF files to send out to these sheriffs. He himself met with his sheriff in his county in FL to talk about this, and apparently, it went very well.
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2009, 11:26:16 AM »

Well, the way I see it, the sheriff is out of the loop, no matter what he or she says. Technically, the sheriff is the highest LEO in the county and outranks any fed or state pig that tries to put his snout where it doesn't belong.

But for practical purposes, he can't stop anything.

It seems that people still depend on technicalities when no one pays any attention to technicalities when those technicalities get in the way of what the Feral Government wants to have done. They will brush him aside like he wasn't even there.

Not enforcing any such federal mandates would be good for his health in this circumstance though.

These sheriffs  need to know that there will be consequences, not only from the federal .gov if he refuses to cooperates but from citizens if he does cooperate.


This is where you're wrong actually, with regard to what the sheriff can or cannot do in his county... the sheriff has the power to call up the county militia, since the sheriff is the chief militia officer in the county... in so doing I don't think APF would have much to say when they are all surrounded by 3000 county militia. I think Blackwater is out of the loop here...

If word leaked out that APF was usurping the county sheriff's power, and brought in Black Hawk helicopters and all that other crap, the surrounding counties would begin funneling in...

Here in Summit County, part of the county militia store of arms, including possible anti-aircraft-anti-tank arms, are held by the people... and not part of the public record... This way, the bad guys can't just google it up and send in hellfire missiles... Oh they'll be dumping one on my place just for general principles, but they won't hit anything here.  Grin

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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2009, 11:33:46 AM »

What about counties without a Sheriff?  I remember seeing a thread on PP that mention a growing trend of no Sheriffs.

In some counties and municipalities that are home rule city and county, the sheriff has been reduced to an appointed position, usually appointed by the mayor... you don't want to be there, because your county militia, if it even exists after this sleight-of-hand, is in control of your mayor... who in most cases, including small cities is in the pocket of the New World order.

If your sheriff is an elected position, and he is accountable only to the people... and "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2009, 11:39:54 AM »

What about counties without a Sheriff?  I remember seeing a thread on PP that mention a growing trend of no Sheriffs.

Move to a county that has a sheriff accountable to the people that is elected by the people.
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« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2009, 02:43:03 AM »

The ammo shortage, and the inability to get bullets, brass, powder, and primers, over the last year, even though the manufacturers of these items are pumping them out 24/7 like never before... tells me a lot about what is planned...

Even when the Iraq war was fully hot, and we were involved equally in Afghanistan five years ago, there was never any difficulty getting these items... I have been on a backorder list for powder and primers now for several months.

If all of the ammunition and components that are supposedly being gobbled up by the American people, are in actuality being stockpiled by the government infiltrators and invaders, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

In either case however, there are many places where lawful County politics are being practiced... I wouldn't want to be the brigade of men and equipment who come into this county with malice on their mind...

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I am heavily involved in the firearms and ammunition industry and I can assure you that the American people have truly bought the hell out of supplies. I am friends with the big suppliers and their sales have been off the charts. I am a FFL and I can still get primers direct from CCI, Federal and Winchester as I have a manufacturing license and the flow is decent right now BUT if they catch you reselling on the open market the components they will cut you off . I am finding all the powder I need as well.
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2009, 02:16:24 PM »

I am heavily involved in the firearms and ammunition industry and I can assure you that the American people have truly bought the hell out of supplies. I am friends with the big suppliers and their sales have been off the charts. I am a FFL and I can still get primers direct from CCI, Federal and Winchester as I have a manufacturing license and the flow is decent right now BUT if they catch you reselling on the open market the components they will cut you off . I am finding all the powder I need as well.

You are involved?

In what way?

You have posted total bullshit in other threads and I am hoping that this is not just another attmpt at posting bullshit in this thread.

You have diverted a very important thread with some Vitamin D distraction and you claim that a few shots from an AK 47 can take out a $100 Million microwave weapon (?).

So unless you got something more than your "authority" I do not see how anything you say should be viewed as real just based on you saying it.  BTW, I say the same damn thing about myself and people should definitley double/triple check anything I pull out of my ass.
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2009, 03:22:44 PM »

You are involved?

In what way?

You have posted total bullshit in other threads and I am hoping that this is not just another attmpt at posting bullshit in this thread.

You have diverted a very important thread with some Vitamin D distraction and you claim that a few shots from an AK 47 can take out a $100 Million microwave weapon (?).

So unless you got something more than your "authority" I do not see how anything you say should be viewed as real just based on you saying it.  BTW, I say the same damn thing about myself and people should definitley double/triple check anything I pull out of my ass.

Like I said, Google Midway, Cabelas, Grafs, or your favorite online shooting supply outlet, then type in the search block the word primers. Go in and search around, check it out for yourself... you will see that even the main suppliers cannot get them. Most will say "out of stock, no back orders..." this means that they are out of stock and you cannot order them to be shipped to you later. The only one who isn't doing that right now is Cabela's. I have been on back order with them now for about three months.

The word on the street is that the Iraq war and the Afghan war have depleted our worldwide supply of ammunition... and all of the ammunition manufacturers are working 24/7 in order to restock the military stores... that is the latest story. The story before that, just after the first of the year, was that now that Obama was elected the American people have purchased so many guns and ammunition that there is none left... both of these stories are false in my estimation.

I have already laid out what I think is going on, and I suggest that people stockpile as much ammo, and reloading supplies as they can... when you go to the range to practice, don't waste... become proficient and be sure to police your brass... pick it up and take it home with you, in other words.

All of the suppliers within a 60 mile radius of me, are having the same problem I am having... I found one dealer who had some primers on the west side of Denver... another supplier West of Vail had muzzleloading primers including number 209 shotgun primers... everyone else I checked with were OUT OF STOCK, and that was everyone within 60 miles in all directions... over 40 phone calls... the two mentioned were the only two that had any primers at all... and not many at that...

Without cartridge primers... your gun is an expensive club!

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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2009, 03:29:30 PM »

Just in case some don't remember just how cool Sheriff Mack is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printz_v._United_States#The_plaintiffs
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