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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2009, 06:29:25 PM »


 You guys are all in fantasy land right now and I cant believe what I am seeing typed.....


 This woman has destroyed the last vestige of a free market enterprise in America with her statement.  

 This will only take away the last tax loopholes and make more corporations both small and big vanish into oblivion. Or be bailed out and swallowed up by big Gubermint

 There are good and bad companies and they all rely on loopholes and free marketism.

 Do any of you honestly believe she would be put in place and not do as asked? She is just warming up for the looting of America... Angry

 Wake up people this aint a good thing, everything they do is for the profit of big gubermint and the destruction of the nation our founding fathers formed.


Halliburton loves you. I am with hope that this statement was directed to the superpower firms, the same that received the bailout and dumped the little guy.
I don not interperet this remark as a threat to free enterprise, and I beleive if our founding fathers were to be resurected they may not take kindly to the corporations swindling, deceiving,manipulating the people , making money on the wars, and on and on. MIC?HuhHuh?

Ever heard of Monsanto, doesn't matter I did, they gave me and many, many others a gift, they were well aware of its effects, they made fortunes on this present, it was Agent Orange. MONEY my freind has no conscience. Nor do those who get so big that we the people are but numbers.

Do you seriously beleive that the big corps are playing it strait, War is money, who is making profit, not me, are you? Doubtfull, but there are many a big dogs up there getting fat on the blood of the little people. Please deny this.

You don't beleive we have printed these words, OK, don't beleive it.
Your fantasy land remark, is that intended for all of us.
I'm curious as to why this appears to be a threat to you, and also why our founding fathers would side with the  giant corporations, the takeover artists.
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2009, 06:30:02 PM »

Wrong. The main pillar or tenet of the so-called 'nwo' is the sovereignty of man, regardless of the level of organization formed around this pillar. The corporation grew out of the organizational context of the nation-state to further integrate the power and organization of man over all within man's view. The nation-state, itself, was and is an artificial entity that was formed and previously acted in the very same manner as a modern corporation. Some nation-states still attempt to do so. Now, the modern corporation, as well as all other organizational levels of man, are being subsumed into a more encompassing organizational framework - which will integrate them all into a formally organized global state of man. To achieve this, corporations must have their legal personhood status reclarified because the state that the corporations will be integrated into will maintain the exclusive power to exercise, define, and act with the rights of personhood. Think about this clearly. The United States, itself, was set up as a model for this scheme to work globally. As the United States goes down, so will the 'nwo' in this current Age. If anyone is paying attention, the United States is collapsing along the same - but reversed - lines in which it was built. The same can be said, generally, about the rest of the world in terms of its organization.

All together, the focus and foundation of this organiational pyramid scheme is the belief in the sovereignty of man - who believes he is at the top of the food chain and has a right to rule over and organize all of creation around his own subjective sense and view of self. Man is sorely mistaken...

Wow. Nice! Very well spoken and dead on accurate.

I'd just like to add something about what you said in the last paragraph about the sovereignty of man. There is a reason these people believe this. The reason they believe in the right to rule over and organize all of creation around is really because they are occultists. This doctrine is clearly stated in their manifesto, otherwise known as the bible, from Genesis:

1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
 
1:27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
 
1:28  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
 
That cuts right to the heart of the Judeo-Christian NWO........
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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2009, 06:35:56 PM »

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That cuts right to the heart of the Judeo-Christian NWO........

Excuse me? You want to clarify that? Are you calling Jews and Christians the NWO? Or are you saying it's their version of the NWO? Please expound.
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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2009, 06:50:26 PM »



I'm outa this one.

When profits outweigh human life the division is final. When innocent human beings (innocents)lives are a means to an end, PROFIT and POWER, well then what I see are empty sacks of skin feeding off humanity, PARASITES.........................
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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2009, 06:52:55 PM »


 You guys are all in fantasy land right now and I cant believe what I am seeing typed.....


 This woman has destroyed the last vestige of a free market enterprise in America with her statement.  

 This will only take away the last tax loopholes and make more corporations both small and big vanish into oblivion. Or be bailed out and swallowed up by big Gubermint

 There are good and bad companies and they all rely on loopholes and free marketism.

 Do any of you honestly believe she would be put in place and not do as asked? She is just warming up for the looting of America... Angry

 Wake up people this aint a good thing, everything they do is for the profit of big gubermint and the destruction of the nation our founding fathers formed.


Believe it. If Sotomayor and Ginsburg really did say that, it's a sign of hope. The whole idea of a corporation is a form of legal and social necromancy and in practice turns out about as well as Frankenstein and Pet Cemetary combined. The corporation has gone from being a white lie used to enable continuity of operations for important and necessary enterprise across human lifespans to a thing that is worshiped as a superior god like life form.

The notion of free markets has really nothing to do with the notion of corporations. Corporations are really more closely associated with statism and collectivism. By deifying corporate status, you are really acknowledging the power of the state over that of the individual.    
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« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2009, 07:05:05 PM »


 You guys are all in fantasy land right now and I cant believe what I am seeing typed.....


 This woman has destroyed the last vestige of a free market enterprise in America with her statement.  

 This will only take away the last tax loopholes and make more corporations both small and big vanish into oblivion. Or be bailed out and swallowed up by big Gubermint

 There are good and bad companies and they all rely on loopholes and free marketism.

 Do any of you honestly believe she would be put in place and not do as asked? She is just warming up for the looting of America... Angry

 Wake up people this aint a good thing, everything they do is for the profit of big gubermint and the destruction of the nation our founding fathers formed.


Well said, Look she is total NWO and this is why she was a "Belizean Grove" member and while people start to believe hollow meanings such as obama stands for change its all a sham to sucker you in and make you believe everything will be OK as a new member is on the team. What Alex Jones has exposed over the years is you cant change the nature of the beast but you can however slow it down and force people to awaken!

I can tell you their is only one true way to stop this! It will come but now is not the time for false hopes.
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2009, 07:06:45 PM »

Excuse me? You want to clarify that? Are you calling Jews and Christians the NWO? Or are you saying it's their version of the NWO? Please expound.

Not exactly. What I am saying is that what we identify as the NWO intertwines, depends on and was propagated down through the centuries by Judeo-Christian esotericism and movements. Historically the Judeo aspects of this unfairly bore most of the exposure and blame, but Christian movements are right there behind them. This is one reason for the increased activity in end-times theology and it's influence on politics and global events.    
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« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2009, 07:36:02 PM »

remember the thread America is a corporation and not a nation, all people are owned by the corporation( property,collateral).

So if people are owned by the corporate united states  then she is is saying we have no rights.
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2009, 09:34:37 PM »

Wow. Nice! Very well spoken and dead on accurate.

I'd just like to add something about what you said in the last paragraph about the sovereignty of man. There is a reason these people believe this. The reason they believe in the right to rule over and organize all of creation around is really because they are occultists. This doctrine is clearly stated in their manifesto, otherwise known as the bible, from Genesis:

1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
 
1:27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
 
1:28  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
 
That cuts right to the heart of the Judeo-Christian NWO........


We also need to keep in mind what 1:28 actually means in the context of the created order. It's not that man is a 'god unto himself' and 'rules the Earth' in that sense. Man's governing authority and ability to govern encompasses that which is below him in the created order - and his 'authority' is only valid when he submits himself to that which is ABOVE him in the created order. Man continually rejects this. In other words, as man governs, so he is governed 'from above'.

As we can clearly see, man has tried to turn himself into God in his actual person - and, as a consequence, he is destroying himself as those most representative of this 'idea of man' desperately try to cling to the 'power' they foolishly believe they wield. They want to try to 'secure the realm' - which is to say, they are trying to stop life itself so that it revolves around them in their attempt to be 'secure' from everything. Why are they so afraid of 'climate change', for instance? Because it threatens the bubble they are trying to construct. Why are they now going to absorb corporations overtly by limiting their ability to act as 'persons'? Because EVERYTHING must be controlled. They do the SAME thing with individual human beings - the state owns you. Remember, that this is a tiered pyramid scheme with many different facets - where indivuduals are 'owned' and absorbed into more expansive organizational groupings - states, nations - and even something as basic as working is layered and tiered - you work at a store - which is part of an industry - which is part of a corporation - and so on - all part of the 'order' man is attempting to create for himself.

Again, behind all of these groupings, stands predatorial man attempting to act as a sovereign.

In the overall sense, the 'new world order' isn't new at all - it came into being right at the beginning of the 'fall' and trying to assert your sovereignty isn't going to get anyone out of that order or defeat it. That IS the 'new world order', itself.
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« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2009, 10:01:58 PM »

She doesn't believe the Constitution applies to the States...

No right to bear arms, no free speech, no religious freedom, no right to assemble, no protection from unreasonable searches and seizures, no more warrants, no prohibition of soldiers quartering your residence without your conset, no due process, no right for women to vote, slavery is alright, double jeopardy, eminent domain, no right to public trial, speedy trial, right to an attorney, no limits on bail....... etc.....

..... Unless written into law by the individual States.

This woman is a quack in my book. I quite frankly don't care if she has a legal argument for her position.

Only a complete idiot, moronic, stooge, swill brain... would believe these things in their heart, and then turn and say that they wish to destroy the corporation... think about it!!!!!!!

Something very important is happening here... it will escape most people, but some will see it... This woman has just struck a blow at the very heart of the corporis beast... time to spend some time watching this gal.

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« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2009, 10:10:13 PM »

I would need someone to explain this argument and what the argument it opposes is.

I cannot understand
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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2009, 10:20:29 PM »


 You guys are all in fantasy land right now and I cant believe what I am seeing typed.....


 This woman has destroyed the last vestige of a free market enterprise in America with her statement.  

 This will only take away the last tax loopholes and make more corporations both small and big vanish into oblivion. Or be bailed out and swallowed up by big Gubermint

 There are good and bad companies and they all rely on loopholes and free marketism.

 Do any of you honestly believe she would be put in place and not do as asked? She is just warming up for the looting of America... Angry

 Wake up people this aint a good thing, everything they do is for the profit of big gubermint and the destruction of the nation our founding fathers formed.


You are of course acting the complete idiot... whether you know it or not, you are trapped in the idea that somehow corporatism is your friend...

Wake up and smell the beans... where have you been... where in the Constitution is the government of the US supposed to be corporate...you have not been reading nor have you been paying attention, nor have you been understanding...

You want some help! Okay... You better wake up soon! Or we'll have to shake you to pieces... Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

GOOD GOD man, what do you think this country is... you actually think that a corporation is the same as a human being... no wonder you think we are drowning in air!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2009, 10:21:40 PM »

I would need someone to explain this argument and what the argument it opposes is.

I cannot understand

The argument is that Sotomayor has been acting like a liberal progressive globalist just to get appointed to the Supreme court. Now that she is on the Supreme court she is revealing herself to be a stealth patriot by her actions so far.
I think you understand the counter argument.
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« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2009, 10:23:22 PM »

I would need someone to explain this argument and what the argument it opposes is.

I cannot understand

Thanks NEP...

And then he needs to read my last post...

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« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2009, 01:17:35 AM »

Here is your mistake. The corporation is NOT an "human" entity. It is a per-state LICENSED entity.

Second, the corporation is being absorbed by the government. The central banks control the government. They are gearing up to create a single national entity run by government. Communism, which on the top, is fascism.

The bitch is not a constitutionalist, she is a worker drone for the NWO.

Without corporate freedom of speech etc... the government will own all corporations, and the banks will own government. That means that ALL news agencies including Alex's (and GCN) will have NO rights, as in freedom of speech.

Think before you post sane. Again, you are lead by the NWO. Epic fail.
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« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2009, 01:23:55 AM »

Here is your mistake. The corporation is NOT an "human" entity. It is a per-state LICENSED entity.
Second, the corporation is being absorbed by the government. The central banks control the government. They are gearing up to create a single national entity run by government. Communism, which on the top, is fascism.
Without corporate freedom of speech etc... the government will own all corporations, and the banks will own government. That means that ALL news agencies including Alex's (and GCN) will have NO rights, as in freedom of speech.

Something like that -- I have to read up about 60 pages to get the gist of it to argue here. Law is the literally my weakest subject, however I know Sotomoyor is a crooked witch for her other viewpoints and Elitist Belize grove/Obama Appointee status. So... expect something from me tomorrow or over the weekend.
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« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2009, 01:36:43 AM »


In the overall sense, the 'new world order' isn't new at all - it came into being right at the beginning of the 'fall' and trying to assert your sovereignty isn't going to get anyone out of that order or defeat it. That IS the 'new world order', itself.

You are confounding some fundamental tendencies of human beings(all people desire power over others in some way; all people must battle evil within themselves, etc). That does not make them part of the "so-called" (sic) NWO. The NWO is a particular type of phenomenon which, yes, EXISTS, due to the will to power, domination and control. However, it IS not these.
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« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2009, 01:40:41 AM »

This quiet attack on corporations from Ms. Sotomayer that many think is going to lead to something 'good' know very little about how the integration of power works and may need to step back to gain some clarity on what's actually happening here. The US is a developing corporate police state and has been for quite some time. What we're seeing now is the further consolidation of it as the pressure builds and all potentially-threatening independent actors (which includes corporations) must be brought to heel. It's not exactly 'communism' - but everything will be subjected to the State - the 'new god' - until it all comes crashing down as it always does. Wink

Study present-day Russia - for that is what the future holds for the US, with some obvious differences, of course.


The Return of the Corporate State
By GARY J. BASS
Published: December 10, 2006


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10section3a.t-6.html

The Rise of the Corporate State in Russia
POLICY FORUM
Tuesday, March 7, 2006
4:00 PM


http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=2764

Putin 'turning Russia into corporate state'

Published Date: 30 December 2005
By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV


http://news.scotsman.com/world/Putin-turning-Russia-into-corporate.2690094.jp

Russia: From Silovik Power To A Corporate State
By Victor Yasmann


http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2007/russia-070925-rferl02.htm
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« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2009, 01:45:52 AM »

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What we're seeing now is the further consolidation of it as the pressure builds and all potentially-threatening independent actors (which includes corporations) must be brought to heel.


that does sound plausible
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« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2009, 01:58:11 AM »

Pretty much, we are talking a fascist corporate state. Not communism and not socialism. Certainly not  capitalism. It is interesting how those who call themselves left, think our country is a capitalist state. This is what they have been taught to believe and they continue to blame "capitalism" for every thing bad that happens. The right does the same, except with socialism. Both positions, as we know, do not really exist except in the realm of propaganda and brainwashing. 
All that really exists is a fascist corporate oligarchy that, well, shapeshifts into any form it wishes.

Everything that is on public record via the media is there for a reason. We could start to see more of these "closet patriots". They are going to be the "new hope" of the future. Like Glenn Beck, they will lead the hopeful by the nose ...right over the  cliff.  Sotomayor's comment? Geez, not only does it tell us exactly nothing about what she is really up to, but it is so perfectly vague! Both the left and the right would be just fine with what she is saying, since both ends perceive the corporation as something evil. And well, if that is the case, wow, what an opportunity to destroy and rebuild. Rebuild into what? Take a guess.
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« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2009, 02:02:37 AM »

You are confounding some fundamental tendencies of human beings(all people desire power over others in some way; all people must battle evil within themselves, etc). That does not make them part of the "so-called" (sic) NWO. The NWO is a particular type of phenomenon which, yes, EXISTS, due to the will to power, domination and control. However, it IS not these.

The fallen condition (fundamental tendency of human beings) most certainly does make them part of the 'nwo' whether it's in their own little self-seeking world projects, or in the wider one everyone here is attempting to understand. By default, everyone is 'imprisoned'. The drive and trajectory of power since the fall of human beings into this realm always is to expand itself over others - eventually getting to the point where it's global in scope. It might be better to say that the 'order' reflects the condition, as you stated - not that the order IS the condition, strictly speaking.

Yet, just because someone says they are trying to create a 'new world order' doesn't make what they are attempting to create new. It is 'so-called' because it's nothing new at all. Those that think its new and unprecendented may need to review and research the history of this planet. This same attempt at global dominance happened in the past -- and then that 'world' was destroyed by 'flood' as the cycle ran its course. It's happening again - and 'this world' will be destroyed as well. Smiley
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« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2009, 02:48:31 AM »

...a nice presentation with some helpful insights into why the US government is seemingly going to reduce the ability of corporations to act privately beyond the control of government. Fascism is always wrapped in a 'patriotic flag'...

 
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« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2009, 03:09:19 AM »

Not exactly. What I am saying is that what we identify as the NWO intertwines, depends on and was propagated down through the centuries by Judeo-Christian esotericism and movements. Historically the Judeo aspects of this unfairly bore most of the exposure and blame, but Christian movements are right there behind them. This is one reason for the increased activity in end-times theology and it's influence on politics and global events.    

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« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2009, 04:36:52 AM »

Here is your mistake. The corporation is NOT an "human" entity. It is a per-state LICENSED entity.

Second, the corporation is being absorbed by the government. The central banks control the government. They are gearing up to create a single national entity run by government. Communism, which on the top, is fascism.

The bitch is not a constitutionalist, she is a worker drone for the NWO.

Without corporate freedom of speech etc... the government will own all corporations, and the banks will own government. That means that ALL news agencies including Alex's (and GCN) will have NO rights, as in freedom of speech.

Think before you post sane. Again, you are lead by the NWO. Epic fail.

"Without corporate free spech"

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa

OMFG!

Corporate free speech?

Have you read the declaration of independence?

Communism? From abolishing the Corporation = Human philosophy??

Communism = Socialism = Fascism...it is all the same shit, an excuse for feudalism.

Corporations are not human beings, they never were and they never will be.

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THE CORPORATE POWER IS THE BRITISH MONARCH POWER!!!!!!!!



WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS THE QUEEN BITCHES POWER OVER THE SLAVES!!!!

THIS IS THE PHARAOH'S REACH INTO YOUR LIVES, YOUR MINDS, YOUR CHILDREN!!!!

THIS IS THE WAY THE NEW WORLD ORDER WAS ABLE TO TAKE EVERYTHING SLOWLY AND DELIBERATELY!!!

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The Federal Constitution of 1788 did not mention corporations, thereby leaving the chartering of corporations to the states, since the Constitution did not explicitly say otherwise. In the late 1700s and early 1800s, corporations began to be chartered by the states. Corporations already existed in the new nation, but these were primarily educational corporations or institutions chartered by the British crown which continued to exist after the new nation was created from the Confederation.

Due to experience as British Colonies and the accompanying corporate colonialism from British corporations chartered by the crown to do business in North America, new corporations were greeted with mixed feelings. Thomas Jefferson wrote in a 1816 letter to George Logan:[6]



"I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government in a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."


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Now the argument is that destroying the unconstitutional and unnatural power of the corporation will bring communism....REALLY?

Do you have any clue whatsoever how communism sweeps over a land?

Have you studied history?

Here is how it happens...

The corporations rape the people for generations (check) and the government protects them (check) until the people cannot take it any longer and demand a brave new leader to be lifted to power that destroys the existing constitution and brokers new deals with the same british monarchy.

What Sotomayor is saying is: "hey guys, the founding fathers' original documents show this is bullshit, no need for a bloody revolution when the supreme court should have dealt with this shit 100 years ago!"

In other words, when you make a egal revolution possible (just adherance to the constitution), then a bloody revolution creating the possibility of a more draconian new world order to be born is not possible.

ANYONE WITH AN EIGHTH GRADE EDUCATION CAN SEE THIS. YOU NEED 20 PHD'S TO CONVINCE OTHERS IT DOES NOT EXIST. SOTOMAYOR SEEMS LIKE THE SIMPLE BREATH OF FRESH AIR NEEDED IN THE SUPREME COURT RIGHT NOW.

As JT said, I will keep an eye on her and see if the new Nazi mind control weapons are havig an effect. But this ruling is constitutional and respectd the foundation of our country.

There ain't no doubt about it. And the sooner the corporations are reigned in CONSTITUTIONALLY, the less chance a actual communist revolution will occur. Venezuelan people were f-d over by US corporations for generations until they had enough. THEY STILL DID NOT CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION!  If the corporations would have been reigned in just 2 years before Chavez, there never would have been a Chavez. Same with Castro.

And who were the ones that made it happen? Foreign corporations with CIA goons.

Who is making it happen in the US? British corporations with MI6, CIA, SAS, Mossad, Tavistock goons.

We need to expose these foreign occupiers and an incredible way is to expose the corporate charters and expose how a corporation is NOT alloted the rights of a human being. They are not human at all and have no right to the 1st amendment (Murdock and MSNBC insane "news" coverage), 2nd amendment (Blackwater, CACI, Kroll), 4th Amendment (Enron, General Electric, IBM, Comcast, AT&T, AIG, Private Federal Reserve), etc. Go down the list.

THIS IS A MAJOR CONTITUTIONAL AFFIRMATION.

AND THAT IS WHY THE NEW WORLD ORDER/COMMUNIST MEDIA IS NOT SAYING A WORD ABOUT IT!
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« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2009, 05:22:29 AM »

The corporations rape the people for generations (check) and the government protects them (check) until the people cannot take it any longer and demand a brave new leader to be lifted to power that destroys the existing constitution and brokers new deals with the same british monarchy.

What Sotomayor is saying is: "hey guys, the founding fathers' original documents show this is bullshit, no need for a bloody revolution when the supreme court should have dealt with this shit 100 years ago!"

In other words, when you make a egal revolution possible (just adherance to the constitution), then a bloody revolution creating the possibility of a more draconian new world order to be born is not possible.


So, corporations were allowed to grow, expand, and this process was done legally with government protection and collusion. Now that the time is right, corporate 'protection' will be legally reduced to keep the cattle, exemplified by yourself, believing they are being freed from the 'corporate monster' as the rulers of the government itself simply assume the overt, corporate role in a last, ditch attempt to save themselves in their positions of 'power'.

That this charade may be done legally, while invoking the masonic constitution is brilliant. This only proves the point that the United States, from the very beginning, was created to be the most sinister and insidious control system model at the end of this Age. And it certainly illustrates the reality that it has never been anything more than a contolled colony.

There will be no revolution that saves the United States - it is collapsing exactly as it was formed.

No constitution will save you from yourself....or America from itself. Good riddance!
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« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2009, 05:53:30 AM »

So, corporations were allowed to grow, expand, and this process was done legally with government protection and collusion. Now that the time is right, corporate 'protection' will be legally reduced to keep the cattle, exemplified by yourself, believing they are being freed from the 'corporate monster' as the rulers of the government itself simply assume the overt, corporate role in a last, ditch attempt to save themselves in their positions of 'power'.

That this charade may be done legally, while invoking the masonic constitution is brilliant. This only proves the point that the United States, from the very beginning, was created to be the most sinister and insidious control system model at the end of this Age. And it certainly illustrates the reality that it has never been anything more than a contolled colony.

There will be no revolution that saves the United States - it is collapsing exactly as it was formed.

No constitution will save you from yourself....or America from itself. Good riddance!
Where are you from? Good riddance to you.
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« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2009, 06:06:09 AM »

So, corporations were allowed to grow, expand, and this process was done legally with government protection and collusion. Now that the time is right, corporate 'protection' will be legally reduced to keep the cattle, exemplified by yourself, believing they are being freed from the 'corporate monster' as the rulers of the government itself simply assume the overt, corporate role in a last, ditch attempt to save themselves in their positions of 'power'.

That this charade may be done legally, while invoking the masonic constitution is brilliant. This only proves the point that the United States, from the very beginning, was created to be the most sinister and insidious control system model at the end of this Age. And it certainly illustrates the reality that it has never been anything more than a contolled colony.

There will be no revolution that saves the United States - it is collapsing exactly as it was formed.

No constitution will save you from yourself....or America from itself. Good riddance!

Yup. the last defense of this scam...

"The constitution sucks"

Oh yeah, that is the ticket.

Blame the constitution so that it can be bidded "good riddance" and a loving NEW WORLD ORDER can take its place.

Yup, thought so.

If it is a battle between the Corporation "Council on Foreign Relations" and the constitution, not too hard to see what side liberty is on.

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« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2009, 06:38:31 AM »

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"Without corporate free spech"

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa

OMFG!

Corporate free speech?

I usually disagree with about 1/2of what sane says, but this bears repeating. So in my own words:


"Without corporate free spech"

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa

WTF!?

Corporate free speech?

WTF!?

There is no free speech within the corporation. Without the corporation the entity doens't speak, it programs.
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« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2009, 06:41:03 AM »

I usually disagree with about 1/2of what sane says, but this bears repeating. So in my own words:


"Without corporate free spech"

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa

WTF!?

Corporate free speech?

WTF!?

There is no free speech within the corporation. Without the corporation the entity doens't speak, it programs.


Yeah, he is a lover of the Queen and wants us all to know how she will save us from the bastardly draconian and scary constitution.

oh no, not the constitution.

please queen, save me, save me from the founding fathers and the constitution.

The constitution unites us. The British Monarchy set up the charters of the British Crown to keep us divided...

MSNBC v. FOX

AEI v. CATO

Brookings v. PNAC

Let me tell you a few other corporations that the Queen Bitch does not want to tbe touched...

AIPAC

SPLC

ACORN

Get the idea?
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« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2009, 06:43:03 AM »

Lord have mercy! Whatever. Roll Eyes

That's OK. Sooner or later you will be finding this out for yourself, one way or another. You're right about one thing, may your "lord" reveal it to you in a way that is merciful on your soul.......
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« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2009, 07:09:39 AM »

That's OK. Sooner or later you will be finding this out for yourself, one way or another. You're right about one thing, may your "lord" reveal it to you in a way that is merciful on your soul.......

He already did Sparky!
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« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2009, 08:01:36 AM »

He already did Sparky!

All lower level initiates like you believe they have been "illumined" by the "spark" of "divinity". There's a whole lot more revealing left to go. This extremist christian ORDER even has its own flag modeled after the most famous one in the NEW WORLD.



All 50 states and all other nations merged into one kingdom of god? The symbolism is pretty clear. Maybe that will be the flag of the new world order, eh?
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« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2009, 09:55:22 AM »

No more than you my friend........... Sotomayer to the rescue huh.... Will you lock this thread also because some are aware? Will you ban me for having a mind of my own and not agreeing with you as you call me an idiot.

 You are gravely mistaken. Sotomayer, even if her best interest is for America( which she has proved otherwise countless times by her disregard for the constitution) will only help to speed the agenda.


  By your own admission you are calling the Government a corporation........hahaha, hilarious. You are limiting its powers to corporate level? They dont.

 You think Sotomayer can put limits on the Government ? You all have gone off the deep end, this is absolutely maddening.  Cry

 The only way to take anything back is to wake people up and well we all know what will happen when to many are awakened.

 So good luck with your constitutionalists Sotomayer..... If it where only true she would already be gone.

I love it when you put words in my mouth... I love it so much that it's almost hilarious watching you have a conversation with yourself... I just don't like being your sock puppet, since everything you say I say, I don't say, it is merely what you surmise...

First, the federal government IS a corporation and has been since it was incorporated in February of 1871... as we have seen over the last 140 years, this is an unconstitutional turn of events, when you analyze exactly how this corporate government was instituted.

Second, if you read my original post, you will understand that I'm anything but stating that Ms. Sotomayor is all of a sudden this great supporter and defender of the Constitution... her past record indicates quite the contrary... however, in this particular decision she made a statement that is incredibly constitutional, that strikes at the heart of the New World Order multi-tentacle beast, and needs to be looked at closer...

You black and white shills... then come in and began polarizing... it's getting a bit old and I'm getting tired of it from you.

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« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2009, 12:26:39 PM »

This quiet attack on corporations from Ms. Sotomayer that many think is going to lead to something 'good' know very little about how the integration of power works and may need to step back to gain some clarity on what's actually happening here. The US is a developing corporate police state and has been for quite some time. What we're seeing now is the further consolidation of it as the pressure builds and all potentially-threatening independent actors (which includes corporations) must be brought to heel. It's not exactly 'communism' - but everything will be subjected to the State - the 'new god' - until it all comes crashing down as it always does. Wink

Study present-day Russia - for that is what the future holds for the US, with some obvious differences, of course.


The Return of the Corporate State
By GARY J. BASS
Published: December 10, 2006


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10section3a.t-6.html

The Rise of the Corporate State in Russia
POLICY FORUM
Tuesday, March 7, 2006
4:00 PM


http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=2764

Putin 'turning Russia into corporate state'

Published Date: 30 December 2005
By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV


http://news.scotsman.com/world/Putin-turning-Russia-into-corporate.2690094.jp

Russia: From Silovik Power To A Corporate State
By Victor Yasmann


http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2007/russia-070925-rferl02.htm



bwaaaaaaaaaahahahaha quoting a bunch of NGO's that are only able to propagandize us into war because of a hundred year old legal ruling mistake that Sotomayor pointed out.

You know, WTF, stop looking for leaders to either prop up or to bash.  Just listen to their words, read their writings, use your brains. god created logic for a reason so that we would not be able to see the rights of man, and sound legal arguments when they occurred.

The NWO does not control everything, they never will.

They can cover the entire earth with concrete and a plant will break through.

No one would have ever believed that Cynthia McKinney would break through and be such a powerful force, or Cindy Sheehan, or Dennis Kucinich, they are still always leery of Ron Paul.

We need to create the fertile environment for mankind to fall to when in need, not to bash them when they finally leak an ounce of truth out.

WTF?

We are better than that.

When they f**k up, do you ever see JT, me, AJ, Paul, anyone else hesitate? ever?  

By their deeds you will know them.

God created in all men a soul, a heart, a desire to make a difference for others. The Drum Major's Instinct as Dr. Martin Luther King called it. We are conditioned and indoctrinated in a purposeful and deliberate system to destroy any sign of god's will within us from cradle to grave. Just watch a few hours of M TV and you will easily see how intense this programming is.  Why are they doing this (with the scholl system, the media, video games, etc.), because god's will is too powerful, the human spirit is too powerful. they loose in every war game scenario imaginable. they keep going over and over it and every time they lose. So they are building it more intense and more intense. Now the sub elites are noticing it because it is everywhere. Every movie, every TV show, every news report, every article.

And as they wake up and squeeze out a tiny sniper bullet that cuts through the heart of the matrix, we need to let the world know that truth has pierced through. There are not insane truthers, the truth movement is not a disease. The truth movement is a cure for the cancerous disease.

And as the human body built resistance worldwide to every manufactured disease to come out of the East India Trading Company, the human spirit world wide is becoming immune to the global corporation cartel's deceptions, lies, and tyranny.


THE EAST INDIA TRADING COMPANY IS THE CORPORATION THAT STARTED THIS MESS.

WATCH THE PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN  TRILOGY TO SEE HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS OCTOPUS!

Still waiting for a second amendment rulng of course.
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« Reply #74 on: September 19, 2009, 01:15:36 PM »

All lower level initiates like you believe they have been "illumined" by the "spark" of "divinity". There's a whole lot more revealing left to go. This extremist christian ORDER even has its own flag modeled after the most famous one in the NEW WORLD.



All 50 states and all other nations merged into one kingdom of god? The symbolism is pretty clear. Maybe that will be the flag of the new world order, eh?

kingdom of god is within the individual. what kingdom of god are you refering to? the great architect of science? darwinian cultism?

sorry, just having fun now.

check out Ben Stein's expelled.

Here is the deal...

kings and queens made the slaves think that they were gods like the pharaos.  this worked until around the time of the american revolution when jeffereson surmised the insanity of this by saying (as is in my signature):

"All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately by god."

In other words all men are created equal with no one claiming superiority because of religion. The light of science has rendered this argument absolutely absurd.

Fast forward a few decades and we get DARWIN.  The elites perk up and realize they can now use SCIENCE to justify their master/slave relationship.

So they promote eugenics darwinian cultism (a most nefarious religion if I may say so myself) in order to justify why they should rule the world.

I do not care what religion you believe whether it be hindu, catholicism, islam, jewish, scientology, darwinian cultism, atheism, or a so called absense of all religion...master/slave relationships exist for elite psychopaths ad not for the masses of human beings. As the world awakens more and more sub-elites will wake up too. Will we be there to welcome them or argue with each other about when they will screw us.

I say welcome judge, would you like to salsa?

bwahhahahahaha, c'mon guys this is a good thing, shit.
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« Reply #75 on: September 19, 2009, 02:06:11 PM »

I cannot believe some of the posts here, especially from the heavy hitters (senior/hero members)!  this woman thus far, if we were to judge by the fruit, as provided bad fruit.  This one item sounds good for now, but we will see if it is good fruit.  I would  recommend every one reserve judgment to see what becomes of this and other rulings she weighs in on.

If this is a game of chess I would liken this to an opening play like moving a pawn.  If she is a Patriot, great!  If not, let us not be so mesmerized and focused on what she is doing now and continue our fight.  I personally don't trust her.  Judas was with the ministry of Jesus for a long time and was trusted until he finally betrayed. 

We ought not let this woman's words weigh so heavily.
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« Reply #76 on: September 19, 2009, 02:08:14 PM »

If you research the Puerto Rican civil liberties movements and the CoIntelPro operations that massacred and provocateured so many of these freedom fighters, you will know that it is hard for any true American with a Puerto Rican heritage to not love the constitution.  It would almost be impossible.  But of course we all are waiting with baited breath about her opinions on the 2nd amendment.  However if she does not give a flying f**k about offending Heritage and the other BS NGO's, she may just come out and say...

"Duh! The second amendment is to protect the people from an oppressive government. How stupid are you other justices with your moronic opinions over the past 30 years?"

Sane, if that were to happen, the Rockefeller crime syndicate will make something BAD happen to Sotomayor. They would either "suicide" a member of her family and scare her into submission, or they would "suicide" her and replace her with a "justice" who would gleefully toe the Rockefeller neo-fascist line.
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« Reply #77 on: September 19, 2009, 05:56:03 PM »

can someone tell me what you are trusting?

please explain this to me.

Rockefeller has enough shit to deal with since one of their top boys was suicided.

please explain why everyone is completely paranoid because an "opinion" was exposed on this board when the MSM has not said a fricking word about it.

Heritage foundation is going crazy over it.

You think that opinion is a good thing to the NGO's?

we are talking about the opinion and it might point to evidence about this person.

you call her a judas. sure, ok. please post evidence to that besides Heritage propaganda or Cato propaganda.

TRhe only evidence anyone posted here is that the constitution is bad and that corporations have free speech.

I apologize, but that is not what we are about.

We are constitutionalists and have been exposing that corporations and not people.

people are people.

but please, other than her being an ecvil judas crazy rican belizean grover, can anyone show any evidence, please?
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« Reply #78 on: September 19, 2009, 06:11:48 PM »

I am not the one believing in anything but evidence.  God is the only true one as far as I am concerned.  The constitution I feel in this day should be an added book to the bible.  That said, I am not accusing, but I am really surprised that if a snake (Sotameyer) is talking some people are listening. 

Whether she be friend or foe, we must be diligent and restore our country.  We needn't get excited about what she is doing as we ought not be relying on her words anyway.

I just think we all need to calm down about her. 
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« Reply #79 on: September 19, 2009, 07:04:32 PM »

I am not the one believing in anything but evidence.  God is the only true one as far as I am concerned.  The constitution I feel in this day should be an added book to the bible.  That said, I am not accusing, but I am really surprised that if a snake (Sotameyer) is talking some people are listening. 

Whether she be friend or foe, we must be diligent and restore our country.  We needn't get excited about what she is doing as we ought not be relying on her words anyway.

I just think we all need to calm down about her. 

here is a solution...

AJ should interview her on the show!

I think she does interviews.

Like I said, there could be some WAC type questioning.

When WAC questioned Cynthia McKinney, that is when it was clear she stood on the side of the constitution and awakened to the importance of the second amendment.

when she was at the debate for the green party it was more obvious.

and when she went to gaza it was clear to me even though COINTELPRO still kept saying that she was a zionist shill.

annyway, having her on the show and watching her carefully would not be a bad thing.
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