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« Reply #120 on: January 16, 2010, 05:13:25 PM »

THE SATANIC ROOTS OF ROCK





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by Donald Phau


Today, at almost any "heavy-metal'' rock concert one can hear the audience being exhorted to rape and murder in the name of Satan. Lyrics such as the following are typical:
"We come bursting through your bodies
Rape your helpless soul
Transform you into a creature
Merciless and cold
We force you to kill your brother
Eat his blood and brain
Shredding flesh and sucking bone
Till everyone's insane
We are pestilent and contaminate
The world Demonic legions prevail"
"DEMONS" by Rigor Mortis

Any loving parent today would be horrified and shocked to learn that their sons and daughters are eagerly listening to such evil. Perhaps though, some may think privately, "If only we could return to the 'good old days,' with the music of the Beatles." Little do most people suspect that it was with those innocent-looking Beatles, that most of the trouble started.

Modern electronic-rock music, inaugurated in the early 1960s, is, and always has been, a joint enterprise of British military intelligence and Satanic cults. On the one side, the Satanists control the major rock groups through drugs, sex, threats of violence, and even murder. On the otherside, publicity, tours, and recordings are financed by record companies connected to British military intelligence circles. Both sides are intimately entwined with the biggest business in the world, the international drug trade.

The so-called "rock stars" are pathetic puppets caught in a much larger scheme. From the moment they receive their first recording royalties, the groups are heavily immersed in drugs. For example, much-admired "stars'' such as John Lennon of the Beatles and Keith Richard of the Rolling Stones, were heroin addicts. Richard had to obtain blood transfusions, replacing his entire heroin-laced blood supply, in order to get a visa to enter the United States. (Tony Sanchez, Up and Down WIth the Rolling Stones, p.319)

The "rock stars" are also totally artificial media creations. Their public image, as well as their music, is fabricated from behind the scenes by controllers. For example, when the Beatles first arrived in the United States in 1964, they were mobbed at the airport by hundreds of screaming teenage girls. The national press immediately announced that "Beatlemania" had besieged the U.S.A. But the girls had all been transported from a girl's school in the Bronx, and paid for their screaming performance by the Beatles' promoters.

The money of the 1960s rock groups, which in somes cases mounted to hundreds of millions of dollars, was also totally under the control of mob-connected promoters. From 1963 to 1970, the Rolling Stones made over $200 million, yet the group's members were all nearly bankrupt. None of them had any idea of where their money went.

Between 1963 and 1964 the Beatles and the Rolling Stones laid siege to Western European and American culture. This two-pronged invasion from England was well-planned and well-timed. America had just suffered the shock of the assassination of President John Kennedy, while in the streets the mass-based civil rights movement had just held a Washington, D.C. rally, led by Martin Luther King, of 500,000 people. The rock counterculture would be used as a weapon to destroy such political movements.

Later in 1968 and 1969, years which saw a mass strike of students and workers in the United States and Europe, huge, open-air rock concerts were used to head off the growing discontent of the population. The rock concerts were devised as a means for mass recruitment to the drug-saturated, free-sex counterculture. For the millions who came to these concerts, thousands of tablets of the hallucinogenic drug, LSD, were made freely avaliable. These drugs were secretly placed in drinks such as Coca-Cola, turning thousands of unsuspecting victims into raving psychotics. Many committed suicide.

Less than a half century ago, our young children studied violin and piano, learning about the great classical composers such as Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven. As will be shown, the same record companies who today promote Satanic "heavy-metal" rock have run covert operations to destroy the musical heritage of these great classical composers.

For the past thirty years, Western society has been under the gun of a deliberate plan of cultural warfare, with the purpose of eliminating Judeo-Christian civilization as we know it. These plans must not succeed. So that the reader can better combat this evil, we'll go back nearly thirty years, when those four innocent lads from Liverpool, England, the Beatles, were just starting out.
Creating the Beatles

The Beatles first began performing in the late 1950s in jazz clubs in England and West Germany. These clubs, always located in the seediest part of the cities, served as a marketplace for prostitution and the circulation of drugs. Beatle biographer Philip Norman writes: "Their only regular engagement was a strip club. The club owner paid them ten shillings each to strum their guitars while a stripper named Janice grimly shed her clothes before an audience of sailors, guilty businessmen and habitues with raincoat-covered laps." (Philip Norman, Shout! The Beatles in Their Generation, p. 81)

The Beatles got their first big break in Germany, in August 1960, when they obtained a booking at a jazz club in Hamburg's notorious Reeperbahn district. Describing the area Norman writes it had, "red-lit windows containing whores in every type of fancy dress, all ages from nymphet to granny...Everything was free. Everything was easy. The sex was easy... Here it came after you." (Philip Norman, Shout! The Beatles in Their Generation, p. 91)

Far from the picture of innocence, the Beatles, even in their first performances, were always high on a drug called Preludin, "John (Lennon), would be foaming at the mouth, he'd have so many pills inside him...John, began to go berserk on stage, prancing and groveling...The fact that the audience could not understand a word he said, provoked John into cries of `Sieg Heil!' and `F____ing Nazis' to which the audience invariably responded by laughing and clapping." (Philip Norman, Shout! The Beatles in Their Generation, pp. 152,91)

Off the stage, the Beatles were just as evil. Norman continues, "while in Hamburg, John, each Sunday would stand on the balcony, taunting the churchgoers as they walked to St. Joseph's. He attached a water-filled contraceptive to an effigy of Jesus and hung it out for the churchgoers to see. Once he urinated on the heads of three nuns."(Philip Norman, Shout! The Beatles in Their Generation, p. 152)

While in Hamburg, in June of 1962 the Beatles received a telegram from their manager, a homosexual named Brian Epstein, who was back in England. "Congratulations," Epstein's message read. "EMI requests a recording session." EMI was one of Europe's largest record producers, and their role in promoting the Beatles would be key in the future.

Under the the strict guidance of EMI's recording director George Martin, and Brian Epstein, the Beatles were scrubbed, washed, and their hair styled into the Beatles cut. EMI's Martin created the Beatles in his recording studio.

Martin was a trained classical musician, and had studied the oboe and piano at the London School of Music. The Beatles could neither read music nor play any instrument other than guitar. For Martin, the Beatles musicianship was a bad joke. On their first hit record, "Love Me Do," Martin replaced Ringo on the drums with a studio musician. Martin said Ringo, "couldn't do a [drum] roll to save his life." From then on, Martin would take the simple little tunes the Beatles would come to him with, and turn them into hit records.
Lockwood and EMI

EMI, led by aristocrat Sir Joseph Lockwood, stands for Electrical and Mechanical Instruments, and is one of Britain's largest producers of military electronics. Martin was director of EMI's subsidiary, Parlophone. By the mid-sixties EMI, now called Thorn EMI, created a music divison which had grown to 74,321 employees and had annual sales of $3.19 billion.

EMI was also a key member of Britain's military intelligence establishment.

After the war, in 1945, EMI's European production head Walter Legge virtually took over control of classical music recordings, signing up dozens of starving German classical musicians and singers to EMI contracts. Musicians who sought to preserve the performance tradition of Beethoven and Brahms, were relegated to obscurity while "ex-Nazi" Party members were promoted. Legge signed and recorded Nazi member, the late Herbert Von Karajan, promoting him to superstar status, while great conductors such as Wilhelm Furtwangler were ignored.

From the beginning, EMI created the myth of the Beatles' great popularity. In August of 1963, at their first major television appearance at the London Palladium, thousands of their fans supposedly rioted. The next day every mass-circulation newspaper in Great Britain carried a front page picture and story stating, "Police fought to hold back 1,000 squealing teenagers." Yet, the picture displayed in each newspaper was cropped so closely that only three or four of the "squealing teenagers" could be seen. The story was a fraud. According to a photographer on the scene, "There were no riots. I was there. We saw eight girls, even less than eight."(Philip Norman, Shout! The Beatles in Their Generation, p. 188)

In February 1964, the Beatles myth hit the United States, complete with the orchestrated riots at Kennedy Airport, previously mentioned. To launch their first tour, the media created one of the largest mass audiences in history. For an unprecedented two Sundays in a row, on the Ed Sullivan Show, over 75 million Americans watched the Beatles shake their heads and sway their bodies in a ritual which was soon to be replicated by hundreds of future rock groups.

On returning to England, the Beatles were rewarded by the British aristocracy they served so well . In October 1965, the four were inducted into the Order of Chivalry, and were personally awarded the accolade of Member of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham palace.
Up from the Dregs:

The Rolling Stones

The credit for the origination of today's blatantly Satanic "heavy metal rock," goes to the English group, the Rolling Stones. Their rise to fame was closely connected with that of the Beatles.

The Stones, as they were called, were widely characterized as the counterparts to the Beatles. "The Stones" were "mean,'' "dirty" and "rebellious," whereas the Beatles were the well-groomed "Fab Four." Though seemingly competitors, they were merely two sides of the same operation. The Stones' first hit record was actually written by the Beatles, and it was Beatle member George Harrison who set up the arrangements for their first recording contract.

Following the same game plan as the Beatles, in the spring of 1963 the Rolling Stones appeared on one of England's most popular family television shows, Thank Your Lucky Stars. Only this time, the reaction by the middle-aged viewers was quite different from that to the Beatles. Hundreds of angry letters were sent, with a typical letter stating "It is disgraceful that long-haired louts such as these should be allowed to appear on television. Their appearance was absolutely disgusting."

The program, however, had exactly the planned effect. Rolling Stones' manager Andrew Oldham was elated at the response. He told the group, "We're going to make you exactly opposite to those nice, clean, tidy Beatles. And the more the parents hate you, the more the kids will love you. Just wait and see."(Tony Sanchez, Up and Down WIth the Rolling Stones, p.17)

In 1964, the Rolling Stones appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show, as the Beatles had done earlier. This time though, the coast-to-coast audience beheld the spectacle of the television studio being ripped to shreds by Stones fans. Sullivan said on the air afterward, "I promise you, they will never be back on our show." The publicity, however, was exactly what was wanted. Within a few months, the group's records were selling millions of copies.

The plan was now to use both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones as the means to transform an entire generation into heathen followers of the New Age, followers which could mold into the future cadre of a Satanic movement and then deploy into our schools, law enforcment agencies and political leadership.
Enter Satan

In his book, The Ultimate Evil, investigator-author Maury Terry writes that between 1966 and 1967, the Satanic cult, the Process Church, "sought to recruit the Rolling Stones and the Beatles." During this period, Terry reports that a photo of Rolling Stones leader Mick Jagger's longtime girlfriend, Marianne Faithfull, appeared in an issue of The Process Magazine. The picture shows her supine, as if dead, clutching a rose. Terry's book goes on to implicate the Process Church cult in the Charles Manson and Son of Sam multiple murders. It was the former lawyer for the Process Church, John Markham, who recently ran the frameup trial against Lyndon LaRouche.

A key link between the Rolling Stones and the Process Church is Kenneth Anger, a follower of the "founding father" of modern Satanism, Aleister Crowley. Anger, born in 1930, and a child Hollywood movie star, became a devoted disciple of Crowley.

Crowley was born in 1875 and was called the "Great Beast." He was known to practice ritual child sacrifice regularly, in his role as Satan's high priest or "Magus." Crowley died in 1947 due to complications of his huge heroin addiction. Before dying, he succeeded in establishing Satanic covens in many U.S. cities including Hollywood. Anger, like Crowley, is a Magus, and appears to be the heir to Crowley.

Anger was seventeen years old when Crowley died. In that same year, 1947, Anger was already producing and directing films which, even by today's standards, reek of pure evil.

During 1966-1967, when the Process Church is reported to be recruiting in London, Anger was also on the scene. Author Tony Sanchez describes that Rolling Stones' Mick Jagger and Keith Richard, and their girlfriends Marianne Faithfull and Anita Pallenburg, "listened spellbound as Anger turned them on to Crowley's powers and ideas."(Tony Sanchez, Up and Down WIth the Rolling Stones, p.155)

While in England, Anger worked on a film dedicated to Aleister Crowley, called Lucifer Rising. The film brought together the Process Church, the Manson Family cult, and the Rolling Stones. The music for the film was composed by Mick Jagger. Process Church follower Marianne Faithfull went all the way to Egypt to participate in the film's depiction of a Black Mass. The part of Lucifer was played by a guitarist of a California rock group, Bobby Beausoleil. Beausoleil was a member of the Manson Family, and Anger's homosexual lover.

A few months after filming under Anger's direction in England, Beausoleil returned to California to commit the first of the Manson family's series of gruesome murders. Beausoleil was later arrested and is now serving a life sentence in prison along with Manson. Having lost his star performer, Anger then asked Mick Jagger to play Lucifer. He finally settled upon Anton La Vey, author of The Satanic Bible and head of the First Church of Satan, to play the part. The film was released in 1969 with the title Invocation To My Demon Brother.

In London, Anger had succeeded in recruiting to Satanism the girlfriend of one of the Rolling Stones, Anita Pallenberg. Pallenberg had met the Rolling Stones in 1965. She immediately began sexual relations with three out of the five members of the group.

Anger, commenting on Anita, said, "I believe that Anita is, for want of a better word, a witch...The occult unit within the Stones was Keith and Anita...and Brian. You see, Brian was a witch too."

One of the group's friends, Tony Sanchez, writes of Pallenberg in his book, Up and Down with the Rolling Stones, "She was obsessed with black magic and began to carry a string of garlic with her everywhere--even to bed--to ward off vampires. She also had a strange mysterious old shaker for holy water which she used for some of her rituals. Her ceremonies became increasingly secret, and she warned me never to interrupt her when she was working on a spell."(Tony Sanchez, Up and Down WIth the Rolling Stones, p.159)

He continues, "In her bedroom she kept a huge, ornate carved chest, which she guarded so jealously that I assumed it was her drug stash. The house was empty one day, and I decided to take a peep inside. The drawers were filled with scraps of bone, wrinkled skin and fur from some strange animals."(Tony Sanchez, Up and Down WIth the Rolling Stones, p.159)

In 1980, the seventeen-year-old caretaker of Keith Richard's New England estate was found shot to death in Anita Pallenberg's bed. The death, ruled a suicide, was with Pallenberg's gun. Richard's house was located near the East Coast headquarters of the Process Church. According to an article in the English newspaper Midnite, a Connecticut police officer, Michael Passaro, who had responed to the "suicide'' reported "strange singing" from the woods a quarter mile from the Richard's mansion.

The newpaper continues, "There have been several bizarre satanic rituals in the area over the past five years. A local reporter attributed the outbreak of occultism to 'rich people taking Acid.'"

In 1967, reflecting their ongoing association with Anger and the Process Church, the Rolling Stones released their first rock album openly celebrating the Devil, titled, Their Satanic Majesties Request. A few months earlier, the Beatles had released their first album dedicated to the promotion of psychedelic drugs, Sargeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. The album contained a fantasized version of an LSD trip, called "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", or L.S.D. for short. It became a top seller.

Clearly, the Beatles' album was dedicated to Satanist Aleister Crowley. It was released 20 years, nearly to the day, after Crowley's death in 1947, and its title song began with the lyrics, "It was twenty years ago today..." The album's cover featured a picture of Crowley.

One month after the album's release, the Beatles shocked the world by announcing, publicly, that they were regularly taking LSD. Beatle member Paul McCartney, in an interview with Life magazine said, "LSD opened my eyes. We only use one-tenth of our brain." They also publicly called for the legalization of marijuana.

The cat was now out of the bag, but the protests were few and minor. In England, the BBC banned "A Day in the Life," and in the U.S.A., Maryland Governor Spiro T.Agnew, who would later be watergated, launched a campaign to ban "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds."
Dial-the-Truth Ministries - ADDENDUM
ROCK MUSIC AND ALIESTER CROWLEY

Aliester Crowley is without a doubt, the main spiritual "teacher" of rock music. Crowley's mission in life was to destroy Jesus Christ and Christianity, while exalting sex perversion, drugs, magick and Satan.

Aliester Crowley spews his hatred of Jesus Christ in The World's Tragedy:

    "I do not wish to argue that the doctrines of Jesus, they and they alone, have degraded the world to it's present condition. I take it that Christianity is not only the cause but the symptom of slavery." (Aleister Crowley, The World's Tragedy, p. XXXIX)

    "That religion they call Christianity; the devil they honor they call God. I accept these definitions, as a poet must do, if he is to be at all intelligible to his age, and it is their God and their religion that I HATE and will DESTROY." (Aleister Crowley, The World's Tragedy, p. XXXI)

In the introduction of The World's Tragedy, Israel Regardie says:

    "This long, almost epic poem is one of the most bitter and vicious diatribes against Christianity that I have ever read."

Crowley's most famous teaching, "Do what thou wilt shalt be the whole of the law" became the "mantra" of the 60's revolution of drugs, sexual perversion and anti-Christianity. "Do your own thing" — "If it feels good do it".

THE BEATLES & CROWLEY

According to The All Music Guide, The Beatle's Sgt. Pepper album, "will forever be known as the recording that changed rock & roll". Time magazine said, Sgt Pepper's was "drenched in drugs." (Time, Sept. 26, 1967, p.62)

The cover of Sgt. Pepper's showed the Beatles with a background of, according to Ringo Starr, people "we like and admire" (Hit Parade, Oct. 1976, p.14). Paul McCartney said of Sgt. Pepper's cover, ". . . we were going to have photos on the wall of all our HEROS . . ." (Musician, Special Collectors Edition, - Beatles and Rolling Stones, 1988, p.12)

One of the Beatle's heros included on the cover of Sgt. Pepper's was — the infamous Aliester Crowley! Most people, especially in 1967, did not even know who Crowley was — but the Beatles certainly did.

The Bealtes apparently took Crowley's teaching very serious — Beatle John Lennon, in an interview, says the "whole idea of the Beatles" was — Crowley's infamous "do what thou wilt":

    "The whole Beatle idea was to do what you want, right? To take your own responsibilty, do what you want and try not to harm other people, right? DO WHAT THOU WILST, as long as it doesn't hurt somebody. . ." ("The Playboy Interviews with John Lennon & Yoko Ono", by David Sheff & G. Barry Golson, p. 61)

    "They're COMPLETELY ANTI-CHRIST. I mean, I am anti-Christ as well, but they're so anti-Christ they shock me which isn't an easy thing."
    Derek Taylor, Press Officer for the Beatles (Saturday Evening Post, Aug. 8, 1964).

    "Jesus El Pifico, a garlic-eating, stinking little yellow, greasy fascist bastard catholic spaniard."
    (John Lennon, A Spaniard in the Works, p.14)

    "Christianity will go, it will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that. I'm right and will be proved right. . . .We're more popular than Jesus now."
    John Lennon (San Francisco Chronicle, April 13, 1966, p.26)

LED ZEPPELIN

One of Crowley's most devout disciples is Led Zeppelin guitarist, Jimmy Page. Page, even bought Crowley's "house of horrors" — Bokestine, located on Lock Ness. Boleskine was the home Crowley performed his "satanic-magick", including blood sacrifices. Crowley was buried inside a dark chamber in Boleskine. Crowley's most famous teaching was "Do what thou wilt shalt be the whole of the law". Page had inscribed in the vinyl on Zeppelin's Third album, Led Zeppelin III, "Do what thou wilt. So mete it Be." Unbeknown to concert goers, Page would actually perform Crowley rituals during some of Zeppelin's concerts.

OZZY OZBURNE
Ozzy, known for uncontrollable and violent acts, confessed in an interview:

    "I really wish I knew why I've done some of the things I've done over the years. I don't know if I'm a medium for some outside source. Whatever it is, frankly, I hope it's not what I think it is - Satan".
    Ozzy Osbourne (Hit Parader, Feb., 1978, p.24)

THE DOORS

Jim Morrison, superstar of the Doors, who died "mysteriously" on July 3, 1971 was deeply involved in the occult . Morrison married his wife at a Wicca wedding standing in a pentagram and drinking each others blood.

Morrison admitted that Satan was the source of his music:

    "I met the Spirit of Music. . . . An appearance of the devil in a Venice canal. Running, I saw a Satan or Satyr, moving beside me, a fleshly shadow of my secret mind, . . ."
    (The Lost Writings of Jim Morrison, p. 36-38)

    Ray Manaxrek of the Doors, says of Morrison:

    "He was not a performer. He was not an entertainer. He was not a showman. He was a shaman. He was possessed."

    "While [Jim Morrison] he was staying at the Chateau Marmont, he spent a few wild nights with a buxom neighbor . . . once waking up in a tangle of bloody sheets after they shared champagne glasses of each other's blood."
    (Pamela Des Barres, Rock Bottom, p. 208)

Many other rock artists "studied" Crowley such as: Marc Bolan, David Bowie, Graham Bond, Sting, Daryl Hall, King Daimond, Bruce Dickinson, Stiv Bators, et al.

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One of the two great influences on the thinking of Charles Manson, along with the Book of Revelation, was the musical group the Beatles.  According to Family members, Manson would most often quote "the Beatles and the Bible." The two influences were linked, in that Manson saw the four Beatles members as being the "four angels" referred to in Revelation 9. Revelation 9 also tells of "locusts"--the Beatles, of course--coming out upon the earth.  It describes prophets as having "faces as the faces of men" but with "the hair of women"--an assumed reference too the long hair of the all-male English group.  In Revelation 9, the four angels with "breastplates of fire"--electric guitars--"issued fire and brimstone"--song lyrics.

Manson believed that the Beatles spoke to him through their lyrics, especially those included in the White Album, released in December 1968.  Several songs from the White Album crystalized Manson's thinking about a coming revolt by blacks against the white Establishment.  He interpreted many of the songs idiosyncratically, believing, for example, that "Rocky Raccoon" meant black people and "Happiness is a Warm Gun" was a song about getting firearms to carry on the revolution rather than--more obviously--a song about sex.

The White Album played a key role in forging Manson's warped ideology.  According to Family member Paul Watkins, "Before Helter Skelter came along, all Charlie cared about was orgies."
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Piggies - (White Album)

Have you seen the little piggies/ Crawling in the dirt/ And for all those little piggies/ Life is getting worse/ Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger piggies/ In their starched white shirts/ You will find the bigger piggies/ Stirring up the dirt/ Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their styes with all their backing/ They don't care what goes on around/ In their eyes there's something lacking/ What they need's a damn good whacking.

Everywhere there's lots of piggies/ Living piggy lives/ You can see them out for dinner/ With their piggy wives/ Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.

 .... Manson interpreted "piggies" to mean members of the Establishment. He saw the song as telling him that the Establishment needed "a damn good whacking."  Manson frequently quoted the line referring to the need for a "whacking."

The song refers to forks and knives.  Rosemary LaBianca received 41 knive wounds, Leno LaBianca received 12 knive wounds and 7 fork wounds.  On a wall in the LaBianca home, in Leno's blood, was written the phrase "Death to Pigs."


More~> http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonbeatles.html


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Charles Manson and Helter Skelter

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One of the darkest aspects of The Beatles' career was the misguided belief, by the psychopathic murderer Charles Manson and his 'Family' of followers, that the group's songs incited violence and depicted armageddon.

    "Look at the songs: songs sung all over the world by the young love. It ain't nothin' new... It's written in... Revelation, all about the four angels programming the holocaust... the four angels looking for the fifth angel to lead the people into the pit of fire... right out to Death Valley. It's all in black and white, in the White Album - white, so there ain't no mistakin' the color." ~ Charles Manson

Charles Milles Manson was born on 12 November 1934. He became leader of the "Manson Family" - a collection of followers - towards the end of the 1960s. The members of this group carried out a number of murders, which included the killing of film director Roman Polanski's actress wife Sharon Tate, under the instruction of Manson.

    "It was upsetting. I mean, I knew Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate and - God! - it was a rough time. It stopped everyone in their tracks because suddenly all this violence came out in the midst of all this love and peace and psychedelia. It was pretty miserable, actually, and everyone got really insecure - not just us, not just the rockers, but everyone in LA felt: 'Oh, God, it can happen to anybody.' Thank God they caught the bugger." ~ Ringo Starr - Anthology

Manson first heard The Beatles during their first visit to the United States in February 1964. At the time he was serving a prison sentence for attempting to cash a forged US Treasury check. He was taught to play the guitar by a fellow inmate, and quickly became obsessed with The Beatles.

He was released in March 1967 at the age of 32, and in the summer left the San Francisco area with a group of followers in an old school bus. After The Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour was released in November that year, Manson adopted the name to refer to the Family's geographical and psychological movements in the bus.

In later years Manson became inspired by a belief in "Helter Skelter," a term taken from The Beatles' song of the same name, which signified an apocalyptic race war he believed would arise between blacks and whites. As well as the music of The Beatles, Manson's scenario was also inspired by the New Testament's Book of Revelation.

His first known use of the term was at a campfire gathering of the Family on New Year's Eve 1968, at their base at Myers Ranch near California's Death Valley. By February 1969, Helter Skelter had developed into a scenario in which Manson and the Family would create an album which they believed would trigger the conflict and inspire America's white youths to join the Family. He believed that black men, deprived of white women, would commit violent crimes in frustration, resulting in murderous rampages and a swiftly-escalating conflict between racial groups.

Although The Beatles' song Helter Skelter referred to a harmless funfair slide, for Manson it encapsulated the chaos which he foretold. He also found references to the imagined apocalypse in a number of other albums, many of which appeared on the White Album.

In Manson's mind, The Beatles's songs included a number of coded messages and hidden meanings. Manson wasn't alone in finding hidden - often non-intended or non-existent - meanings in The Beatles' songs. After all, John Lennon's Glass Onion had positively encouraged them. However, Manson's interpretations had abhorrent and devastating consequences way beyond the intentions of the songs' creators.

    "Like, Helter Skelter is a nightclub. Helter Skelter means confusion. Literally. It doesn't mean any war with anyone. It doesn't mean that those people are going to kill other people. It only means what it means. Helter Skelter is confusion. Confusion is coming down fast. If you don't see the confusion coming down fast, you can call it what you wish. It's not my conspiracy. It is not my music. I hear what it relates. It says 'Rise!' It says 'Kill!' Why blame it on me? I didn't write the music. I am not the person who projected it into your social consciousness." ~Charles Manson, November 1970

On 10 January 1969 Manson announced that the Family were to move from the desert into a house in Canoga Park. The canary-yellow house, where the Family temporarily settled to develop their plans for Helter Skelter, was dubbed the Yellow Submarine.

On 27 July a dispute over money arose within the Family. Bobby Beausoleil murdered fellow member Gary Hinman, at Manson's instruction. Afterwards Beausoleil daubed the words "Political piggy" on a wall in Hinman's blood.



Hinman was arrested on 6 August. Two days later Manson told the Family that Helter Skelter was to begin. The following night, 9 August, three members murdered Sharon Tate and four others. One of the killers, Susan Atkins, wrote "Pig" on the front door of the murder scene, 10050 Cielo Drive, in Tate's blood.

The next night three Family members, again acting on Manson's instruction, murdered Leno LaBianca and his wife Rosemary at their Los Feliz home. One of the killers wrote "Rise" and "Death to Pigs" on the walls of the living room, and "Healter [sic] Skelter" on the refrigerator.

Abbey Road was released in September 1969, after the murders took place. By this time the Family were living at a camp in the Death Valley area of California. In October, after the Family had acquired a copy of the album, several members - including Manson - were arrested.

On 25 November police raided the Spahn Ranch used as a base by the Family. They confiscated a door on which was written "Helter Skelter is coming down fast", and the words "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, all good children (go to heaven?)" - the latter words are heard in You Never Give Me Your Money.

While Manson stood trial for the Tate-LaBianca murders in late July 1970, two people were murdered and one injured in an attack on a beach near Santa Barbara, California. A female member of the Family later referred to this incident as "Maxwell's Silver Hammer".

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« Reply #122 on: January 16, 2010, 07:08:04 PM »

If you check out JIMI's YT link, there is a clip where Faul is caught play right-handed in India. That's pretty damning evidence to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKytoJPTpFc&feature=related
(part 3 of 7...click on part 1 to view the whole series)
Well i play guitar right handed but there are tims I've held it left handed & tried playing it left handed (which i cant). But for me this is not evidence at all.
Also, in that photo PM looks identical to pre 1967 PM. On YT i've seen a vid that discredits this photo, as its possible to reverse/mirror it so that it looks like PM is playing it right handed. The clincher is that PM is left handed & he is playing a right handed guitar as the scrathplate is on the top in both photos.
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« Reply #123 on: January 16, 2010, 07:12:40 PM »

Also, the supposed OPD (Officially Prounounced Dead) clue on PM's shoulder has been discredited.

Paul said it was from Ontario Police Department. But the PIDers say there is no "Ontario Police Department", which is true,  but there is a "Ontario Provincial Patrol", and here is their badge, which is exactly like the one on the Sgt Pepper album sleeve, on Pauls Arm.

Also, on the album cover, you cant tell if the last letter on the badge is a D, or not. As the badge is crumpled as Paul is wearing it. However, in every other aspect it is identical to this badge.

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« Reply #124 on: January 16, 2010, 07:26:51 PM »

Ok last thing, just found this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNOsFQa_Ns&feature=fvw

pretty convincing that he was the same guy all along, and also depressing as you see him switch from young to old Sad
I have seen this video & I agree.
I have spent several hours over the last few days looking into this, and although PM clearly does look different in some of the photos that the PIDers promote, in other photos there are clear similarities.

I cannot buy this theory because -
The visual similarities are too close.
The vocal similarities are too close.
The accent is too close.
The left handed guitar playing ability is too close. ...
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« Reply #125 on: January 16, 2010, 07:32:11 PM »

Faul Mccartney was supposedly the winner of a PM look a like contest in 1965. But none of the info i have seen, tells us where this contest took place if, at all.

Just imagine how difficult it would be for the lookalike contest winner "Faul" to -
1. Speak with a scouse accent.
2. Also be a similar singer.
3. Also be a musician.
4. Also play guitar - left handed.
5. Also play piano - with the same unusual chord playing technique that is all fingers & no thumbs.
6. Have an interest in being a pop star.
7. Be willing to trade his life for some other persons life.

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« Reply #126 on: January 16, 2010, 07:42:49 PM »

Rather than looking at still images that may or may not have been manipulated, i suggest PIDers watch some actual footage of PM.

This photo of Paul V Faul, initialluy had me doubting & swaying towards PID, as there looked a big difference.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/OnlyBeatles/paul_faul.jpg

But footage of this September 1968 performance clearly show that this is the one & only PM, pre & post 1967. Sure, his hairstyle is significantly different, & a lot of the hairs weight has been taken out of the sides which may make his head look taller, as opposed to rounder than from his previous bowl cut type hairstyle. He may have lost a few pounds, but THIS IS THE SAME PAUL MCCARTNEY AS IN 1966 & BEFORE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLVywY5EwoA&feature=related
Pause this video on 0:58 & tell me that is a different PM to before 1967  Roll Eyes.
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« Reply #127 on: January 16, 2010, 08:12:18 PM »

Another song from the same session in Spetember 1968. Same old PM as far as i can see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GtHTwoaQtI&feature=related

There are pre & post 1967 photos, where the ears, nose, frackles, eyes, lips all look the same. Add to this the fact that he talks much the same, plays instruments much the same & sings etc. & i cannot believe i am involved in this discussion  Grin.

I'm now actually feeling a bit sorry for Paul McCartney, as this conspiracy theory has existed since 1969, & there are whole internet communities in existence to talk about this single subject of PID/PIND, with members having posted hundreds or thousands of posts each! Weird  Wink

Can you imagine how crazy this would seem to the one & only Paul McCartney!

I urge any PIDers to just stop for a minute, & "think" before continuing with the PID argument. I could understand the argument if say, faul was a Pakistani or Italian - i.e. a clearly different appearance.

Heres a 1968 interview with Paul McCartney. For me, this is the same one & only Paul Mccartney as pre 1967. Yes Paul has a fringe now & a lot of the weight of his hair has been taken out of the sides of his head, compared to his swept fringe basin cut, which created a rounder shaped looking head. This new hairstyle makes his head look a bit thinner & taller. He may be slightly leaner, & he is definately a few years older than pre67 in 1968, but as far as i'm concerned, these are the only differences. and this is the one & only Paul Mccartney.
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« Reply #128 on: January 16, 2010, 08:26:55 PM »

More 1968 footage of the same old PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slrvEo50ikY&feature=related


PM & Jane Asher interview 26th March 1968.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZnJMsNpJsU
This is 16 months after the alledged accident, after which Jane was supposedly persuaded to stay with Faul for a while, to not raise suspiscions. Yet she is still with PM over a year after his supposed death, after going on a trip to India with him, & being interview with Fake Paul. This does not seem realistic.

All of the post 1966 footage of Paul looks very natural to me & unforced, including how he interacts with the other band mates & how they interact with him.

More fake Paul & Jane Asher footage. She looks perfectly happy, at ease & natural with the alledged fake Paul, the imposter who has supposedly been brought in to replace her dead lover  Shocked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jacotfd1rPk&feature=related

His voice is identicle to in this Auguust 1966 interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2JLPKlghaI
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« Reply #129 on: January 16, 2010, 08:33:28 PM »

Also, just consider their heavy workload thoughout the 1960's - The Beatles entire existence. All thast travelling, jet lag, late nights, stress, worry, long hours in the studio etc. This probably took a physical toll on all of the Beatles & they all probably aged more than they would have done in this decade with a normal less hectic schedule.


I'm surprised how i have changed my view duringmy investigation of this conspiracy theory. My initial instinct was - this is Bull shit!

I looked at all the PID material & saw the differences, & was buying the PID argument.

I then looked at the PIND footage, & have then done my own research which both confirm to me that "theres only one Paul Mccartney".

What i have therefore learnt is to DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Dont just soak up like a sponge what someone else is telling you, accepting it as genuine, fact, unbiased etc. without questioning it, or doing your own research!
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« Reply #130 on: January 16, 2010, 08:37:22 PM »

That rotten apple 1 -78 series was way to heavy on the spice, it could have been done in half the time without all the repetitiveness, a little too subliminal, kinda indoctrinating.
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« Reply #131 on: January 16, 2010, 08:39:03 PM »

Phew, I'm feeling relieved!  Smiley

I was feeling quite sad the other day, when i was believing that PM died aged 24 in 1966, & that the PM we have seen since was an imposter!


However, now that i have proven to myself, that there is only one Paul Mccartney, i am happy & appreciate what he was, is & has done. When i see him on TV in last few years, i  have thought of him as a tiny bit of an ego maniac etc. But looking at this older footage, its clear that he has not always been that way, & he really was a very nice young man.

Sure, his persona has chjanged a bit over 40 years as it would do over time with life experience & a changing perspective. Same as others such as Robert Plant.

Long live the one & only Paul Mccartney. Smiley
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« Reply #132 on: January 16, 2010, 08:44:43 PM »

That rotten apple 1 -78 series was way to heavy on the spice, it could have been done in half the time without all the repetitiveness, a little too subliminal, kinda indoctrinating.

Yes, you have to be careful.

Same with the Heather Mills interview, as things can be taken out of context, edited down to be made to seem more dramatic & relevant. Add in a spot of voice morphing  Roll Eyes etc. If you saw the full interview etc......

Some of the clues on the Abbey Road cover like - Paul is holding a cigarette, or - "coffin nail"  Cheesy Cheesy had me like - come on!!!! talk about a dubious full on interpretation of something that is quite possibly not so. Seeing what one wants to see in it. And holding it in his right hand also!!! a left handed person!!

Well i am left handed but i can hold a cigarette (thoough i dont smoke) & do a whole lot more  Wink with my right hand...
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« Reply #133 on: January 16, 2010, 09:01:54 PM »



Same eyes, both photos show a bit of a cowlick on his fringe, different side for the parting, but same Paul Mccartney.

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« Reply #134 on: January 16, 2010, 09:35:21 PM »

to be honest, the PIND evidence is no better than the PID evidence...it's all the same, there simply is no real way for anyone to know one way or the other...
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« Reply #135 on: January 17, 2010, 02:02:46 AM »

LOL at the wizard picture top of this page. cmon they arent satanic they're totally into Harry Potter now
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« Reply #137 on: January 17, 2010, 09:00:51 AM »

Mccartney on Letterman 2009, discussign the PID rumour.

Granted, Letterman probably had to have all his questions approved b4hand, but PM doesnt seem to react suspisciously.
Granted he's had 40 years to think up a convincing reply, & if he was replaced, for all intents & purposes, Faul would by now believe that he is Paul, but he maintains good eye contact, remains aware of the audience reaction & Lettermans reaction throughout this discussion, & is a pretty convincing Paul.

He does scratch his nose & move his leg, when asked which would suggest he is a bit uncomfortable with the topic, but so would most people be if such a rumour existed about themselves, that you knew so many people had bought, hook line & sinker.
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« Reply #138 on: January 17, 2010, 09:50:57 AM »

Mccartney on Letterman 2009, discussign the PID rumour.

Granted, Letterman probably had to have all his questions approved b4hand, but PM doesnt seem to react suspisciously.
Granted he's had 40 years to think up a convincing reply, & if he was replaced, for all intents & purposes, Faul would by now believe that he is Paul, but he maintains good eye contact, remains aware of the audience reaction & Lettermans reaction throughout this discussion, & is a pretty convincing Paul.

He does scratch his nose & move his leg, when asked which would suggest he is a bit uncomfortable with the topic, but so would most people be if such a rumour existed about themselves, that you knew so many people had bought, hook line & sinker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kYDdBWESQw&feature=related
that clip doesnt convince one way or the other, any better than any of the other "evidence" one way or the other...noone will know, only believe their own personal stance on the matter...
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« Reply #139 on: January 17, 2010, 11:31:26 AM »

LOL at the wizard picture top of this page. cmon they arent satanic they're totally into Harry Potter now

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I think the Stones where meant to be the 'Beatles 2.0'.
The Beatles were too independent minded and the Crown needed a new Mindf**ck weapon to unleash on the youth.

I actually think the Beatles music is brilliant but...
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« Reply #140 on: January 17, 2010, 01:40:10 PM »

Also, the supposed OPD (Officially Prounounced Dead) clue on PM's shoulder has been discredited.

Paul said it was from Ontario Police Department. But the PIDers say there is no "Ontario Police Department", which is true,  but there is a "Ontario Provincial Patrol", and here is their badge, which is exactly like the one on the Sgt Pepper album sleeve, on Pauls Arm.

Also, on the album cover, you cant tell if the last letter on the badge is a D, or not. As the badge is crumpled as Paul is wearing it. However, in every other aspect it is identical to this badge.


actually this isnt discredited and fits the story, as Faul is supposedly from Ontario and this was supposed to prove a link...the OPD theory is out, but the OPP is still a theory according to some...
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« Reply #141 on: January 17, 2010, 04:59:47 PM »

I can't post this image directly, but I found a pretty interesting rare Beatles photo:

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I can't post this image directly, but I found a pretty interesting rare Beatles photo:

http://www.dump.com/2010/01/17/the-beatles-in-1957-george-harrison-is-14-john-lennon-is-16-and-paul-mccartney-is-15/

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« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2010, 05:40:31 PM »


thats DEFINITELY Faul~! look at his face...oman... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
 i kid, i kid, take it easy folks... Grin hey? where's Ringo??
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Sympathy for the Devil - Rolling Stones

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5827716/Sympathy_for_the_Devil_Rolling_Stones

Some of the historical events mentioned in this song are the crucifixion of Christ, the Russian Revolution, World War II, and the Kennedy Assassinations.

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long long year stolen many a man's soul and faith
I was around Jesus Christ had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you is the nature of my game

Stuck around St. Petersburg when I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the Tzar and his ministers; Anastaria screamed in vain
I rode a tank held a gen'rals rank when the blitzkrieg
raged and the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you hope your guess my name, oh yeah
Ah what's puzzling you is the nature of my game, oh yeah

I watched the glee while your kings and queens fought for
ten decades for the Gods they made
I shouted out "who killed the Kennedy's?" when after all it was you and me
Let me please introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste
And I lay traps for troubadors who get killed before they reach Bombay

Pleased to meet you hope you guess my name, oh yeah
But what's puzzling you is the nature of my game, oh yeah

Pleased to meet you hope you guess my name
But what's confusin you is just the nature of my game

Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
'Cause I'm in need of some restraint

So if you meet me Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I'll lay your soul to waste, um yeah

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name, um yeah
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, um mean it, get down

Woo, who
Oh yeah, get on down
Oh yeah
Oh yeah!

Tell me baby, what's my name
Tell me honey, can ya guess my name
Tell me baby, what's my name
I tell you one time, you're to blame

oh, who
woo, woo
Woo, who
Woo, woo
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Oh, yeah

What's my name
Tell me, baby, what's my name
Tell me, sweetie, what's my name

Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Woo, who, who
Oh, yeah
Woo woo
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« Reply #145 on: January 18, 2010, 06:06:46 AM »

that clip doesnt convince one way or the other, any better than any of the other "evidence" one way or the other...noone will know, only believe their own personal stance on the matter...

True.

So shall we give "Paul Mccartney" the benefit of the doubt!?
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« Reply #146 on: January 18, 2010, 06:07:46 AM »

actually this isnt discredited and fits the story, as Faul is supposedly from Ontario and this was supposed to prove a link...the OPD theory is out, but the OPP is still a theory according to some...

Oh right, so Faul was not Scottish, they actually trained a Canadian look a like to speak with a scouse accent!  Cheesy
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« Reply #147 on: January 18, 2010, 09:01:58 AM »

Oh right, so Faul was not Scottish, they actually trained a Canadian look a like to speak with a scouse accent!  Cheesy
Paul Mccartney never had a Scottish accent in the first place,he has/had a Liverpool accent... secondly, is the idea so unbelievable?you see actors doing this exact thing almost daily, and not doing a bad job of it...have you ever listened to the vocal "evidence"? it has been found that there are differences in the way he spoke/sang certain words that ,if believed, would make that exactly the case...dont forget, the beatles were the most profitable musical act at the time, so if Paul were dead in '66 it isnt a huge leap to think that someone would go to all this trouble, there were millions of dollars to be made, or lost, depending...you'd be better of picking apart the facial comparisons to Phil Ackrill than to say it seems impossible that anyone would bother teaching someone an accent to fool the public with...an accent is the easiest part of the whole thing...
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« Reply #148 on: January 18, 2010, 09:04:22 AM »

I dont buy this one , im sorry .
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I dont buy this one , im sorry .
you dont have to, and im not asking you to...the guy is almost dead at this point anyways, it makes little difference anymore lol...
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thats DEFINITELY Faul~! look at his face...oman... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
 i kid, i kid, take it easy folks... Grin hey? where's Ringo??

Ringo came later ... the first drummer was Pete Best. Here's a pic with John, Paul, George, Pete ..
and Stu Sutcliffe, another early member.



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Ringo came later ... the first drummer was Pete Best. Here's a pic with John, Paul, George, Pete ..
and Stu Sutcliffe, another early member.



http://beatlesnumber9.com/stupete.html


i know, im an old man lol...i was kidding is all...
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OK!  Sorry ... just trying to keep the record straight!

From one old fart Beatlemaniac to another ...  Grin

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OK!  Sorry ... just trying to keep the record straight!

From one old fart Beatlemaniac to another ...  Grin


no problemo~! Cheesy
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« Reply #154 on: January 18, 2010, 11:10:15 AM »

When Lennon refers to "Beatle Bill" couldn't he be referring to Billy Preston?

Did someone already address the point that the death of McCartney would have increased record sales?



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When Lennon refers to "Beatle Bill" couldn't he be referring to Billy Preston?






It's possible. Was he #5 in Sweden?

Another interesting aspect to this is the Lennon and McCartney cryptic bickering in the 70's.

Some thoughts on this from the Beatles ineternet community:

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Lennon wrote this at the height of his feud with Paul McCartney after The Beatles broke up. Each line of the song is an attack on some aspect of McCartney's life or music at the time. For instance, the line "Everything you done was yesterday. Since you gone you're just another day" refers to Paul's song "Yesterday" with the Beatles and his first solo single "Another Day." John felt that Paul's greatest work was behind him.

When the Imagine album was originally released, it contained a postcard of John holding the ears of a large pig. This was making fun of Paul's 1971 album cover for Ram, released before Imagine, where Paul is pictured holding the horns of a ram. On the back of the Ram album, Paul included a picture of two beetles 'screwing,' or saying to John 'screw' you from one Beatle to another.

The feud between Lennon and McCartney originated after The Beatles manager Brian Epstein passed away. Paul wanted his new father-in-law to manage the group while the other Beatles wanted the notorious Allen Klein. Lennon and McCartney maintained a frosty relationship after the band broke up. By most accounts, McCartney contacted Lennon periodically, but was often rebuffed. The last time they saw each other was two years before Lennon's death when they shared dinner in New York. In a 2008 interview with The Times of London, McCartney said: "The answer to John was well — I was sleeping very well at the time. Before John died I got back a good relationship with him. That was very special. The arguments we had didn’t matter. We were able to just take the piss about all those songs; they weren’t that harsh. In fact, I have been thanked by Yoko and everyone else for saving the Beatles from Allen Klein. Everything comes round in the end.”

This appears in John and Yoko's film Imagine. (thanks, Mike - Little Falls, NJ, for above 4)

Some of Lennon's lyrics refer to McCartney's "Too Many People" from his album Ram (Hence the pig postcard). The lyrics from "Too Many People" that referred to Lennon: "Too many people preaching practices" and "You took your lucky break and broke it in two." (thanks, John - Watertown, WI)

Nicky Hopkins, an Apple records protégé who Paul McCartney produced on his song "Those Are The Days My Friend," played piano on this.

George Harrison played lead guitar on this track, and Klaus Voorrman played the bass. Voorman, an old friend from The Beatles Hamburg days, did the cover collage for The Beatles album Revolver. The fact that others who were close to McCartney also played on this track made it even more painful for the former Beatle. (thanks, chet - saratoga springs, NY, for above 2)



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John's original line was "The only thing you did was Yesterday/And you probably pinched that bitch anyway" In British slang "pinch" means "stole". John was hinting that Paul plagerized the words and/or music. Allen Klein, John's manager at the time, demanded John re-write that line, fearing a defamation lawsuit by Paul.
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The Line "Those freaks was right when they said you was dead" refers to a rumour that circulated which said that Paul McCartney had died.
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« Reply #156 on: January 18, 2010, 11:44:50 AM »

No, he was on the Golden Globe awards last night!     Roll Eyes


Stop with the nonsense! Your attention is needed on ADULT issues!
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« Reply #157 on: January 18, 2010, 12:45:20 PM »

No, he was on the Golden Globe awards last night!     Roll Eyes


Stop with the nonsense! Your attention is needed on ADULT issues!

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« Reply #158 on: January 18, 2010, 12:52:45 PM »

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dont judge people, lest ye yourself be judged...


I refer to the title of the thread: Topic: Is Paul McCartney of the Beatles who's face is made of plastic Dead? Maybe the title needs to be changed?

It's an observation, not a judgment Kinpa! I was mostly referring to the "dead" issue. People enjoy talking about these things for entertainment, but it seems quite inappropriate to waste ones time on such when our country is falling apart. Don't you agree?

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« Reply #159 on: January 18, 2010, 01:03:16 PM »


I refer to the title of the thread: Topic: Is Paul McCartney of the Beatles who's face is made of plastic Dead? Maybe the title needs to be changed?

It's an observation, not a judgment Kinpa! I was mostly referring to the "dead" issue. People enjoy talking about these things for entertainment, but it seems quite inappropriate to waste ones time on such when our country is falling apart. Don't you agree?


honestly i dont see it as making a difference...we can talk about entertainment or we can talk about the country falling apart, regardless, the country will fall apart, talking about it doesnt change much of the reality of it...ive been talking about it for over 20 years, and nothing has changed, it's continued to fall apart...the more people that wake up to this, is a good thing, but still doesnt really change anything...ive yet to see it change to any degree...i understand your point, but honestly, what is being accomplished by talk alone? trading info is a good thing, dont misunderstand, but at some point folks have to do more than this, or its the same as doing nothing at all...
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