Forum Member Gullibility Test: Is Paul McCartney Dead?

[Dok]

well it is interesting. 

[Kilika]

Heather Mills? Anything she says should be taken with caution. As Sane would put it, she's "bat sh*t crazy".

[Djævlen]

i saw all those vids a while ago. its morbidly interesting and fun to ponder, but i'm not buying it. i think the Beatles, well aware of the the whole "Paul is dead" movement, started to play mind games with the public. the point "who, then, wrote all those amazing songs?" is a valid one. i've spent over 20 years in the music production business and believe me, talent like that doesnt come along that often.

[Djævlen]

Ok.
It was to me. I didn't know that McCartney is an Allister Crowley lover and a demonic devil worshipper. So that's the part that blew my mind.

thats really speaking in hyperbole. first of all, AC didnt "worship the devil". worship of the Christian "devil" was popular during the middle ages and was a backlash against Christianity.

i've read Crowley, LaVey, etc.. and i dont worship the devil - hell i dont even believe that he exists.

[Dewk]

  This would not even be that far fetched if it did happen. The greed of some people would make this type of thing an option.
I remember listening to the taped radio show "Paul is dead".  One bit of evidence was that paul had an OPP patch on the SGT. peppers album and that Paul said he got in Canada. The radio guy said no such agency exists. The OPP is the equivalent of a state trooper.

[Ragdata]

This is really interesting.  I've been up all night and I'm only up to video #72.  I'm not totally convinced that these videos have anything to do with Paul McCartney being dead.  I think that could be a red herring that's been thrown in to capture a bit of attention for some reason that is not entirely apparent to me as yet ...

Whoever made these videos has a fair amount of skill and an interest in cryptography.

Hit the author's YouTube Profile and view one of the videos so that you get the list of all of the videos in a vertical column on the right.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=iamaphoney#p/u/0/qrSx5LoTUnQ

You'll notice that some of the video titles have seemingly random letters or numbers attached to them.  Aside from a few sequences that I haven't had the time to investigate (I only discovered this tonight through this thread) there is a message embedded when you read them from top to bottom:

L M W (a reference to the number plate of the VW Beetle that appears on the Abbey Road album cover - perhaps also a reference to what is possibly an annagram "Like More Wizards" which appears at the author's website at http://iamaphoney.com/)

Then a sequence I don't understand yet. But, them from video 59 to 29 you'll read:

PAUL 9 2 2008 5 OCLOCK in dang(e)r ... the (e) would be at the end of the title for video #30 - but it's missing.  Bear in mind that this message was revealed over the course of MONTHS and IN REVERSE.

There's a whole bunch of numbers in the author's profile description that seem to be dates in reverse - and this seems to be a game the author likes very much to play.

In a comment at the top of the source code of his website appear the numbers 1-13-7-9-14-5.  Using a simple numerical-to-alphabetical code these numbers translate as "AMGINE" - or ENIGMA backwards ... which could explain the comment at the bottom of the source code "three wheel machine".

There is a sequence of letters on his website and in his videos that I don't understand - "XKFKUFYDHZHZQ" which sometimes appears in conjunction with what I think could be a reversed or partially reversed date "90020802" (yes, I know there's no such thing as an "80" in any date - but he does this with dates all through his videos).

Then there's the content of the videos ... there's something about them which suggests to me that he's trying to send a message to a particular person that is being disguised as some nutjob presenting yet another far-fetched theory on YouTube.  It seems to me that a lot of the information in these videos is being presented from an "insider's" point-of-view.  Some of these messages seem to me to have "personal vendetta" written all over them - there's a very "personal" edge to some of this that you wouldn't see if this were merely some kind of documentary.

Then there's a series of videos from mid-to-late this year which focus on a briefcase, the contents of which are suggested to be capable of revealing some sort of massive and devastating secret (from that particular somebody's point-of-view at least).

If you ask me ... and bear in mind that it's now 5am and I only stumbled upon these vids tonight thanks to this thread ... I think something like the following could be going on:

I think someone is blackmailing Paul McCartney and using this elaborate series of videos to communicate demands using symbols that only Paul would recognise the meaning of mixed in with a bunch of meaningless nonsense - "white noise" if you will.  Paul could not bring this to the attention of the police without "decyphering" the videos for them and thus incriminating himself.  The trick here, of course, would be receiving an acknowledgement that the message has been received and the demands are being complied with ... but the instructions for doing so could well be hidden in plain sight for the right person to see.

Whether my theory is correct or not, I think there's something much deeper going on here - and I think it's being executed BRILLIANTLY!

[Dig]

no offense intended NEP on the title change, but your talents are wasted IMO on this one

[N.E.P.]

This is really interesting.  I've been up all night and I'm only up to video #72.  I'm not totally convinced that these videos have anything to do with Paul McCartney being dead.  I think that could be a red herring that's been thrown in to capture a bit of attention for some reason that is not entirely apparent to me as yet ...

Whoever made these videos has a fair amount of skill and an interest in cryptography.

Hit the author's YouTube Profile and view one of the videos so that you get the list of all of the videos in a vertical column on the right.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=iamaphoney#p/u/0/qrSx5LoTUnQ

You'll notice that some of the video titles have seemingly random letters or numbers attached to them.  Aside from a few sequences that I haven't had the time to investigate (I only discovered this tonight through this thread) there is a message embedded when you read them from top to bottom:

L M W (a reference to the number plate of the VW Beetle that appears on the Abbey Road album cover - perhaps also a reference to what is possibly an annagram "Like More Wizards" which appears at the author's website at http://iamaphoney.com/)

Then a sequence I don't understand yet. But, them from video 59 to 29 you'll read:

PAUL 9 2 2008 5 OCLOCK in dang(e)r ... the (e) would be at the end of the title for video #30 - but it's missing.  Bear in mind that this message was revealed over the course of MONTHS and IN REVERSE.

There's a whole bunch of numbers in the author's profile description that seem to be dates in reverse - and this seems to be a game the author likes very much to play.

In a comment at the top of the source code of his website appear the numbers 1-13-7-9-14-5.  Using a simple numerical-to-alphabetical code these numbers translate as "AMGINE" - or ENIGMA backwards ... which could explain the comment at the bottom of the source code "three wheel machine".

There is a sequence of letters on his website and in his videos that I don't understand - "XKFKUFYDHZHZQ" which sometimes appears in conjunction with what I think could be a reversed or partially reversed date "90020802" (yes, I know there's no such thing as an "80" in any date - but he does this with dates all through his videos).

Then there's the content of the videos ... there's something about them which suggests to me that he's trying to send a message to a particular person that is being disguised as some nutjob presenting yet another far-fetched theory on YouTube.  It seems to me that a lot of the information in these videos is being presented from an "insider's" point-of-view.  Some of these messages seem to me to have "personal vendetta" written all over them - there's a very "personal" edge to some of this that you wouldn't see if this were merely some kind of documentary.

Then there's a series of videos from mid-to-late this year which focus on a briefcase, the contents of which are suggested to be capable of revealing some sort of massive and devastating secret (from that particular somebody's point-of-view at least).

If you ask me ... and bear in mind that it's now 5am and I only stumbled upon these vids tonight thanks to this thread ... I think something like the following could be going on:

I think someone is blackmailing Paul McCartney and using this elaborate series of videos to communicate demands using symbols that only Paul would recognise the meaning of mixed in with a bunch of meaningless nonsense - "white noise" if you will.  Paul could not bring this to the attention of the police without "decyphering" the videos for them and thus incriminating himself.  The trick here, of course, would be receiving an acknowledgement that the message has been received and the demands are being complied with ... but the instructions for doing so could well be hidden in plain sight for the right person to see.

Whether my theory is correct or not, I think there's something much deeper going on here - and I think it's being executed BRILLIANTLY!

Yes, I agree. This is some kind of riddle or game. Maybe Heather has something to do with it? Great post and your theory is BRILLIANT.

[N.E.P.]

no offense intended NEP on the title change, but your talents are wasted IMO on this one

It's an interesting story. I became obsessed about it yesterday but after watching the video twice, I am burnt out on McCartney. No offense taken on the title change.

I have moved on to Bigfoot research and have some really shocking footage of a captured baby Sasquatch. Starting a new thread on it............brb 
 

[Piltdown Man]

no offense intended NEP on the title change, but your talents are wasted IMO on this one

one might well ask who gives a shit about JFK or Building 7.

I do give a shit

it's a link in the chain, Sane.

it's a huge clue about how NWO operates

mk ultra, tavistock, mind control, crowley and illuminati have their fingerprints all over this one

and bottom line; if true, it was a hit style murder, an injustice that was perpetrated and several generations of people duped.  

Just reading Lennon's interview in Playboy just before he was murdered should clue you i that this might have some (relative) importance.  He talks publicly about how CIA and the army brought in the drugs.  He was murdered a few weeks later.  This isn't so stupid to talk about, imo.  just sayin

Lennon in Playboy Interview a few weeks before his murder:

"We must always remember to thank the CIA and the Army for LSD. That's what people forget. Everything is the opposite of what it is, isn't it, Harry? So get out the bottle, boy -- and relax. They invented LSD to control people and what they did was give us freedom. Sometimes it works in mysterious ways its wonders to perform. If you look in the Government reports on acid, the ones who jumped out the window or killed themselves because of it, I think even with Art Linkletter's daughter, it happened to her years later. So, let's face it, she wasn't really on acid when she jumped out the window. And I've never met anybody who's had a flashback on acid. I've never had a flashback in my life and I took millions of trips in the Sixties."

[Kilgore Trout]

I watched 73 of these videos , damn , I'm burned out!! I think the whole thing is some sort of sub conscious archetype mind f**k....interesting though.

[weaving spider]

If you go to www.digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html , it has forensic evidence that shows the pre 1966 Paul, and the post 1966 Paul are not the same person. I found it very interesting. If it's true it would make sense. I wonder, also, how much money the Beatles were bringing into the British economy, and if they had a hand in it. If it's true. The evidence on this website is compelling.

[Jackson Holly]

Here's another clue for you all ... the walrus is Paul.

[Dig]

one might well ask who gives a shit about JFK or Building 7.

I do give a shit

it's a link in the chain, Sane.

it's a huge clue about how NWO operates

mk ultra, tavistock, mind control, crowley and illuminati have their fingerprints all over this one

and bottom line; if true, it was a hit style murder, an injustice that was perpetrated and several generations of people duped.  

Just reading Lennon's interview in Playboy just before he was murdered should clue you i that this might have some (relative) importance.  He talks publicly about how CIA and the army brought in the drugs.  He was murdered a few weeks later.  This isn't so stupid to talk about, imo.  just sayin

Lennon in Playboy Interview a few weeks before his murder:

"We must always remember to thank the CIA and the Army for LSD. That's what people forget. Everything is the opposite of what it is, isn't it, Harry? So get out the bottle, boy -- and relax. They invented LSD to control people and what they did was give us freedom. Sometimes it works in mysterious ways its wonders to perform. If you look in the Government reports on acid, the ones who jumped out the window or killed themselves because of it, I think even with Art Linkletter's daughter, it happened to her years later. So, let's face it, she wasn't really on acid when she jumped out the window. And I've never met anybody who's had a flashback on acid. I've never had a flashback in my life and I took millions of trips in the Sixties."

One might ask, "are you a f**king moron?"

One might ask, "why are you equating the very important issue of Lennon's revelations and stand against the elite pigs with a thread title that does not convey this message?"

One might ask, "why not actually defend the issue rather than collapsing it into the obvious collusion of the CIA/LSD issue which is not a question but a fact?"

One might ask, "why focus on a controversy like micronukes and disinfo like no planes rather than building 7?"

One might ask a lot of things but equating building 7 to this is definitely soimething that people should ask about because they are miles of thermite detonation charge wires apart.

[Piltdown Man]

One might ask, "are you a f**king moron?"

One might ask, "why are you equating the very important issue of Lennon's revelations and stand against the elite pigs with a thread title that does not convey this message?"

One might ask, "why not actually defend the issue rather than collapsing it into the obvious collusion of the CIA/LSD issue which is not a question but a fact?"

One might ask, "why focus on a controversy like micronukes and disinfo like no planes rather than building 7?"

One might ask a lot of things but equating building 7 to this is definitely soimething that people should ask about because they are miles of thermite detonation charge wires apart.

all these are, indeed, excellent questions Sane! (even the first one is interesting, for many reasons)

I think at the end of the day, it is the process, and the intention, behind asking questions like these, and others, that I love.
which is why I enjoy the forum

In my world, no question is moronic if a human being sincerely asked it, and wondered about it.  

I guess that's why I've spent my life teaching children: you get trained in accepting, and honoring, honest inquiry


 

[kushfiend]

so the basic theory is that what?  Paul died in the 60's, was replaced with a clone/look-a-like, everyone else in the beatles went along with it, and to this day it really is some fool named Faul, not Paul, playing the part of Paul McCartney?

Uh, what is the point?  Why not just buy out Paul McCartney?  NWO has zillions of media/entertainers.  why go thru all that trouble?

sounds too far fetched for me.  And I believe in bluebeam so that's saying a lot.

[ConcordeWarrior]

29 years tomorrow. RIP John Lennon.

I have always wondered who was behind Mark Chapman.
He could not have committed the murder just for his own sake...

[Piltdown Man]

PS
the Lennon quote has quite a bit to do with theories surrounding Paul's alleged murder.
Paul was against drugs, spoke out against them in many interviews etc.
Paul was the leader of the group pre-1966, a solid guy who fielded all the questions and seemed the obvious leader.  Post 66, Lennon led.

With Vietnam war protests surging, it is conceivable that Manson type CIA-Tavistock-military handlers approached the Beatles and asked/bribed/persuaaded/threatened them into pushing a drug agenda as a way to get more drugs on the streets: I mean, if the Beatles were advocating acid, think of the impact.  Think of the impact.  Dear God.  perfect.  anti war protest ends in a crazy haze of chems.  

Perhaps Paul was firm in not wanting to play that game.  
One of the first changes you see in "Paul" post 1966 is that he talks about all the drug trips he's been on.  Pre 1966, Paul cautions against drug use.  

The Lennon quote I posted didn't have this background info, I was presupposing some knowledge of this.  Lennon's early complicity in drug pushing is all too obvious: Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, etc. many other examples.  

It is conceivable that Lennon's Playboy quote represents a revision of conscience inspired by the passage/perspective of time.  He also seems to want to spin it for his own peace of mind; saying that LSD "set people free" instead of "controlling" them, counter to what the CIA etc intended.  That is bosh.  These are the words, imo, of someone feeling some pangs of guilt and attempting to mitigate his role.  

The infusion of drugs took a terrible toll on many brilliant young hearts and minds, and it was a toll, I know you agree, engineered in NWO thinktanks.    

So, in summary, the Lennon quote has much to do with the "dead Paul" question, and everything to do with exposing the tactics and methods of the NWO   (the extent and type of brainwashing, the attempted take over and control of recording artists, of Hollywood, of visual, literary and performing artists etc.)

[Dig]

all these are, indeed, excellent questions Sane! (even the first one is interesting, for many reasons)

I think at the end of the day, it is the process, and the intention, behind asking questions like these, and others, that I love.
which is why I enjoy the forum

In my world, no question is moronic if a human being sincerely asked it, and wondered about it.  

I guess that's why I've spent my life teaching children: you get trained in accepting, and honoring, honest inquiry


 

accept nothing, question everything.

i am questioning your questioning.

why are you attempting to censor my qestions?

 

[Piltdown Man]

accept nothing, question everything.

i am questioning your questioning.

why are you attempting to censor my qestions?

 

the word "censor" ain't ever crept much into my thinking vocabulary, sir, 

though after round three of discussing my alleged censoring
of your questioning my questions surrounding
your questions concerning my central question,

i must admit, I can't remember why anything but dinner ever mattered much   
 

[Jackson Holly]

One thing I would like to add:

When we are talking about Beatlemania we are not talking about screaming tweenies head-over-heels about that dreamboat Ringo ... we are talking about an acid-induced paranoid psychosis that gripped a good portion of the hippie-dippie population.

Think Charles Manson and HELTER SKELTER.

We were convinced that the Beatles were talking to each one of us 'individually', relaying messages in their lyrics and imagery. Whenever a new album appeared we would hunker down for days and dissect it, forwards and back, making the necessary paranoid links to what had come before.

We were convinced that at any moment the Beatles would come to our door in the Magical Mystery Bus and take us away to Pepperland ... we would join the army on the Yellow Submarine to do ultimate battle with the Blue Meanies.

It was a trip ... a mindfuk ... the Beatles were well aware of all this and played along.

And the 'Paul is Dead line' is part of this.

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Magical Mystery Tour Cover Art ~ note the walrus is in black, the others in white.



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Lyrics to GLASS ONION on their subsequent release, "the WHITE ALBUM":

Glass Onion

I told you about Strawberry Fields
You know the place where nothing is real
Well here's another place you can go,
where everything flows

Looking through the bent backed tulips
to see how the other half lives,
looking through a glass onion

I told you about the walrus and me, man
You know that we're as close as can be, man
Well here's another clue for you all:
the walrus was Paul

Standing on the cast iron shore, yeah,
Lady Madonna trying to make ends meet, yeah,
looking through a glass onion

Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah,
looking through a glass onion

I told you about the fool on the hill,
I tell you man he's living there still
Well here's another place you can be,
listen to me

Fixing a hole in the ocean,
trying to make a dove-tail joint, yeah,
looking through a glass onion

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[Kilgore Trout]

To me , this is a great topic. I am always fascinated by the legends of the rock and roll mythos. as far as this stuff is concerned , I view it as exemplary , exciting fiction. Paranoia aside , this kind of thing is my wheelhouse , it's what keeps me inspired to question and wonder .....What is real...

[hyperqube]

you should read this guy!

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html


weird connections, birth of hippie movement, all kinds of cia connections.  i couldn't stop

[Kilgore Trout]

Not sure if anyone has posted this video yet. It is very matter of fact and more concise than the OP's video , though that was very cool.  Only about 19 minutes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3339951952377456839&hl=en#

@hyper , I am checking that one out now.

[Kilgore Trout]

you should read this guy!

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html


weird connections, birth of hippie movement, all kinds of cia connections.  i couldn't stop

Very intense read , I'm only part way through part 2 , damn what scary thoughts...

[N.E.P.]

Coast to Coast tonight!

John Lennon

Rock historian R. Gary Patterson joins author Joseph Niezgoda to discuss hidden symbols in the Beatles and John Lennon's recordings and album artwork which depict sorcery, mysticism, numerology, and theological writings, including speculation that he had a "pact" with Satan. Lennon's friend Bill Harry will also participate in the conversation.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

[Piltdown Man]

http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/entertainment-industry-mass.html

The entertainment industry is used to control/condition the masses, i.e. "sell" the agenda. These interviews are with Alan Watt:

How the Media Controls Your Mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlr0qf0eTHU

Conditioning Through Entertainment:

I wonder how one might "market" such a drug to the masses & get them to take it willingly? Maybe if a super-famous, popular rockstar did it, other people would try it... Here is "Paul" talking about taking LSD in a 1967 interview:


At 4:40, Dick Cavett talks about the Beatles' huge influence & how it might have influenced people to take drugs. George said after "Paul" said he took LSD on TV, the "whole world went crazy."


According to this, it seems that Paul was somewhat reserved with drug use. He smoked pot, took only one prelude usually, & outright refused to try heroin. Discussion of "Paul" after 1966 is about the double, who seems to have been much more open to drug use.

    ...McCartney's introduction to drugs started in Hamburg, Germany.[142] The Beatles had to play for hours, and they were often given "Prellies" (Preludin) by German customers or by Astrid Kirchherr... McCartney would usually take one, but Lennon would often take four or five.[143]...

    McCartney remembered getting "very high" and giggling when The Beatles were introduced to cannabis by Bob Dylan in New York, in 1964.[144] McCartney's use of cannabis became regular, and he was quoted as saying that any future Beatles' lyrics containing the words "high", or "grass" were written specifically as a reference to cannabis—as was "Got to Get You into My Life".[145]... Help! director Dick Lester said that he overheard "two beautiful women" trying to cajole McCartney into taking heroin, but he refused.[147]...

    McCartney was introduced to cocaine by Robert Fraser, and it was available during the recording of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.[149][150] He admitted that he used the drug multiple times for about a year but stopped because of the unpleasant come down.[151]

    In 1967, McCartney said everybody sat around and took LSD, although McCartney had first taken it with Tara Browne, in 1966.[154][155][156] He took his second "acid trip" with Lennon on 21 March 1967 after a studio session.[157] McCartney was the first British pop star to openly admit using LSD, in an interview in the now-defunct "Queen" magazine.[158] His admission was followed by a TV interview in the UK on Independent Television News on 19 June 1967, when McCartney was asked about his admission of LSD use, he said:

    “I was asked a question by a newspaper, and the decision was whether to tell a lie or tell him the truth. I decided to tell him the truth ... but I really didn't want to say anything, you know, because if I had my way I wouldn't have told anyone. I'm not trying to spread the word about this. But the man from the newspaper is the man from the mass medium. I'll keep it a personal thing if he does too, you know ... if he keeps it quiet. But he wanted to spread it so it's his responsibility, you know, for spreading it, not mine."
    http://en.wikipedia..../Paul_McCartney


So, how does all of this fit together? My theory is that the Beatles were a very talented band that got under the control of the Illuminati's Tavistock Institute (TI). (I don't think anyone can be that big without some help.) I believe that TI tried to use celebrities to push their drug agenda (LSD) [MKULTRA] on the masses as either a mind-control experiment, or just a way to control the anti-war movement that was growing in the mid-60's. Paul must have refused to go along with some part of the agenda. Paul said in 1965 interview that they wouldn’t encourage people not to drink & refused to try heroin... So, Paul, not being a "team player," was eliminated. However, he was popular, so they found a replacement who could exploit Paul’s popularity to push the agenda. Not long after the replacement, Faul did an interview talking about taking LSD, and the “whole world went crazy.”

Paul's murder served as a warning to the other Beatles, friends, family, etc, to not step out of line. John Lennon was assassinated right after he gave a Playboy interview (1980) in which he talked about LSD. He said "they" wanted to control people, but ended up setting them free:

    PLAYBOY: "Acid?"

    LENNON: "Not in years. A little mushroom or peyote is not beyond my scope, you know, maybe twice a year or something. You don't hear about it anymore, but people are still visiting the cosmos. We must always remember to thank the CIA and the Army for LSD. That's what people forget. Everything is the opposite of what it is, isn't it, Harry? So get out the bottle, boy... and relax. They invented LSD to control people and what they did was give us freedom. Sometimes it works in mysterious ways its wonders to perform. If you look in the Government reports on acid, the ones who jumped out the window or killed themselves because of it, I think even with Art Linkletter's daughter, it happened to her years later. So, let's face it, she wasn't really on acid when she jumped out the window. And I've never met anybody who's had a flashback on acid. I've never had a flashback in my life and I took millions of trips in the Sixties."

    http://www.whale.to/b/lennon1.html


Admitted CIA agent, Timothy Leary, talking about Sgt. Pepper:

    The Sgt. Pepper album... compresses the evolutionary development of musicology and much of the history of Eastern and Western sound in a new tympanic complexity. Then add psychedelic drugs. Millions of kids turned-on pharmacologically, listening to stoned-out electronic music designed specifically for the suggestible, psychedelecized nervous system by stoned-out, long-haired minstrels. This... is the most powerful brainwashing device our planet has ever known. Indeed, if you were an observer from a more highly evolved planet wondering how to change human psychology and human cultural development (in other words if you were a divine messenger), would you not inevitably combine electrical energies from outside with biochemical catalysts inside to accomplish your mutation?"

    Dr. Timothy Leary, from his "Thank God For the Beatles" essay.
    http://www.dread.net...tles/leary.html

    ~ Tina Faulster (Plastic Macca)

    Edit:

    The Illuminati dominates the Pop industry- Open your eyes! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114637322916
Tavistock Institute & social conditioning
The entertainment industry is used to condition the public to accept the NWO. Celebrities are part of the mind conditioning of the masses. Celebrities are very popular & have a lot of influence, & many people will follow their lead. One of the keys to PID, IMO, is the Tavistock Institute.

    Tavistock, England--This has been the primary programming center for England. The Rothschild programmers work out of Tavistock. A large number of slaves in America have been programmed there. Tavistock has been doing mind-control since before W.W.ll. Under the supervision of London’s W Board & 20 Committee MI6 and MIS’s Section BIA ran double agents and mind-controlled spies/couriers during W.W. II. MI6 has had an office at Century House, No. 100, Westminster Bridge Road. MI5 offices have been in part on Curzon St. MI5 has operated behind a number of fronts, incl. their fake travel agency Casuro Holidays. MI-5’s address for mail is Room 055, The War Office, London. Special Intelligence Service (SIS) dealt with all types of mind control. Tavistock was under SIS. The British government has had their own telephone exchange with a 222 prefix, which was later linked to another secret exchange YTAN. Outsiders could dial 222 8080 to get into the secret govt. exchange.

    The Royal Free Hospital at the University of London works with Tavistock Clinic, as well as the Science Policy Research Unit (SPRU) of Sussex University. A large number of Britian’s psychologist, social workers and police get their training at Tavistock. Tavistock has set themselves up as the authority on ritual abuse and MPD (DID). In other words, the primary programming site, is pretending to be the leading institution trying to solve the problem! That’s a good cover. The Illuminati Formula Appendix I: The Programmers

    Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler quotes
    http://www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html

Here is a link to a video called "Tavistock Institute for Global Maniputlation":

I don't agree w/ this about the Beatles' talent, but this is interesting:

    In 1978, [Lyndon LaRouche] wrote that "The Beatles had no genuine musical talent, but were a product shaped according to British Psychological Warfare Division (Tavistock) specifications, and promoted in Britain by agencies which are controlled by British intelligence." ...

    http://en.wikipedia....Lyndon_LaRouche

    Harrison Stabbing & Masonic Symbolism

    ... Considering what happened to Harrison's former bandmate John Lennon on the streets of New York almost exactly 19 years before, and considering the Beatles' key, pivotal role in the mass social experimentation carried out by Britain's Tavistock Institute in conjunction with covert intelligence agencies like the CIA, NSA and Britain's MI5/MI6, we'd say there is a strong likelihood that Harrison, like Lennon, was NOT the victim of some random act of senseless violence.

    In fact, Lennon was murdered shortly after he gave an interview to Playboy magazine in which he blew the lid off the fact that the Beatles were part of massive experimentation in social control/engineering unleashed by Tavistock and intelligence agencies, as was the deliberate introduction of drugs like LSD into the burgeoning "counterculture" scene during the 1960s and 1970s. The Playboy interview was published not long after Lennon's death.

    We'd say it's a good possibility Harrison was targeted to be bumped off by some of the same forces responsible for rubbing out Lennon, using MK-Ultra/Manchurian Candidate-type mind-controlled assassin Mark David Chapman...

    http://www.hiddenmys.../harrison.shtml

This is from the 1980 interview w/ John Lennon - shortly before he was assassinated.


    PLAYBOY: "Acid?"

    LENNON: "Not in years. A little mushroom or peyote is not beyond my scope, you know, maybe twice a year or something. You don't hear about it anymore, but people are still visiting the cosmos. We must always remember to thank the CIA and the Army for LSD. That's what people forget. Everything is the opposite of what it is, isn't it, Harry? So get out the bottle, boy... and relax. They invented LSD to control people and what they did was give us freedom. Sometimes it works in mysterious ways its wonders to perform. If you look in the Government reports on acid, the ones who jumped out the window or killed themselves because of it, I think even with Art Linkletter's daughter, it happened to her years later. So, let's face it, she wasn't really on acid when she jumped out the window. And I've never met anybody who's had a flashback on acid. I've never had a flashback in my life and I took millions of trips in the Sixties."

    http://www.whale.to/b/lennon1.html


~ Tina Faulster (Plastic Macca)

[hyperqube]

Very intense read , I'm only part way through part 2 , damn what scary thoughts...

indeed

[Dig]

you should read this guy!

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html


weird connections, birth of hippie movement, all kinds of cia connections.  i couldn't stop

john coleman also talks about this stuff. also there is disinfo surrounding it, lots to weed through.

[N.E.P.]

Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson - Say Say Say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzrxjTdw1pM

As George Harrison would say, "well, Beatle Bill is making a pig out of himself"

I must admit, this song is catchy.

[N.E.P.]

The Beatles and the occult.part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADE8T5KDY98&feature=related

[N.E.P.]

The Beatles Anthology

http://www.thebeatles.com/#/films/The_Beatles_Anthology

The Beatles Anthology is the Grammy Award winning 3 part mini series that tells, in the Beatles own words, the dramatic and astonishing story of the most influential band in rock history.

The Anthology charts the official history of the Beatles from their earliest days in Liverpool up to the break up of the group in 1970. Using a mixture of archive footage, home movies, never before seen concert footage and unheard studio tracks, together with interviews with the Beatles themselves, the Anthology invites you as John Lennon would say ‘into the eye of the hurricane’.

Originally screened on the ABC Network in 1995.

The Beatles - Anthology DVD1
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTA0MDQwMzg0.html

2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTA0MDQ4ODY0.html

5
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTA0MDk2OTA0.html

6
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTA0MTAxMDc2.html

7
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTA0MTA3MDk2.html

8
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTA0MTE2MDg4.html

[Viper]

The Spaceman (toronto640 Saturday nights) is into this kinda stuff and done a couple of shows on the Beatles a couple months back.

Here's his second last show which was on Christmas...

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=88130.msg904933#msg904933

The shows on the beatles are in the same thread.

[Futurist]

Looking at it from the outset, this McCartney doppelgänger is a talented musician in his own right with a successful post-Beatles career. I'd like to see a voice-print analysis before I put any stock in it.

[N.E.P.]

Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson - Say Say Say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzrxjTdw1pM

As George Harrison would say, "well, Beatle Bill is making a pig out of himself"

I must admit, this song is catchy.

Go to 4:45. Look what symbol Linda and Paul make with their arms. hmmmmmmm

[N.E.P.]

Looking at it from the outset, this McCartney doppelgänger is a talented musician in his own right with a successful post-Beatles career. I'd like to see a voice-print analysis before I put any stock in it.

Vocal differences & voice technology

http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/vocal-differences-voice-technology.html

In 1969, Dr. Henry M. Truby of the University of Miami used samples from three Beatles songs sung by Paul McCartney (Yesterday, Penny Lane, and Hey Jude) and produced three very different sonagrams. (Reeve, Andru J., Turn Me On, Dead Man: The Complete Story of the Paul McCartney Death Hoax, Ann Arbor: Popular Culture, Ink, 1994: 69).

This page has a vocal comparison: http://digilander.li...ruth/audio.html
On the left is Paul; on the right is the double:

[N.E.P.]

The Illuminati
2 of 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8545496763343704701&ei=ihk8S4eNA8KDlgfXyMjSDw&q=beatles+freemason&hl=en&emb=1&client=firefox-a#



Great Video about the Freemasons and the occult.

[chris jones]

Interesting, I can't make an oppinon on this, but i do beleive the 3J's are dead.

[Aussieteen]

thanks but if this is true, I will be really disappointed, i love the beatles 

[Viper]

thanks but if this is true, I will be really disappointed, i love the beatles 

The beatles played along with a fun faux /conspiracy theory, think of all the goodness they have spread with all they're tunes, especially George.