Forum Member Gullibility Test: Is Paul McCartney Dead?

[Viper]

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

[TheCaliKid]

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

^ Best quote of all time!

[grapecrusher1]

But you'd rather we burn the books so as our minds need not be warped, i believe in this thing called freedom of speech is all, this is a harmless pop-conspiracy nearly fifty years old, before computers, don't deny us freedom to choose, lets not go all fascist and fill our post counts with hate, now this is in the satire section, with your stupid thread name are you still not happy mr conscience?

Not saying burn anything but place the book in the right section, mentally.  In this case it goes in the fictional entertainment section, ie. satire, parody, and should be treated as such.  Both mentally and physically this should be far away from the peer reviewed science section.

[Viper]

This "pop conspiracy" was promoted by the Beatles themselves through certain music and certain album covers.
We just wanna know why is all.
It's no biggie, they didn't bring the towers down, just the general morality, played some damn fine music too.

[citizenx]

That's exactly what I was getting at.  This did start with the Beatles themselves and it was a stupid game then -- four decades ago.

They were counter-"Revolution" then and this is counter-revolution, now.

I understood their game as a child.

Lennon came to undersatnd it and repudiated it.

Paul or Faul went on to write stupid love songs and give the finger to little peon workers while galdly accepting his various awards from the Queen.

I didn't care about Paul then, and I don't care about Paul or Faul, now.

[mr anderson]

Who the F%%K are you??

Here is a perfect example of hypocrisy and a good lesson why people should drop the holier-than-thou "It's not important lets move on" superiority trip.  A quick scroll through YOUR last couple of days posts shows comments in nonsense threads like:
-- the kevinator
-- UFO's
-- the football prophesy octopus

I would wager that the majority of MY posts are on target and pertinent.  And actually THIS is important because we have someone posting here who is deliberately foisting a hoax on the forum (as they say in Oz-- taking the piss) and by so doing making fools of us.  I could go on why my posts are more valid than yours about the kevinator or the octopus but that may be testing your comprehensive ability.

Your avatar is funny but really does it do us any good?  moron.
  

Ohhhh so close



Ah done some basic investigating, mmm.

"Here is a perfect example of hypocrisy and a good lesson why people should drop the holier-than-thou "It's not important lets move on" superiority trip.  A quick scroll through YOUR last couple of days posts shows comments in nonsense threads like:

-- the kevinator (1 post)

This has to do with the many failed policies of the Rudd Government which is demonstrated in artistic form. It is very pertinent to Australia as it was those failed policies that lead to an in-house coup in which his Deputy Leader became Leader.

Busted.

-- UFO's (1 or 2 posts)

I was commenting on the recent 'sighting' of a UFO or missile as I was saying, aledging it was a holographic projection that is a documented tool in Project Bluebeam; a staged alien invasion to scare the public into a global governance, one world religion etc etc.

Busted.

-- the football prophesy octopus" (1 post)

Your really grabbing at straws, this is my reply:

*COUGH* Just do a bit of digging to find out what support the Dutch have..

*loosens collar

WOW distracting posts!

And your harping on about McCartney being dead?? Perhaps it's a curiosity yes, but is it more pertinent, serious or believable than governments around the world enacting the same policies at the same time to effectively render as slaves and eventually wanting to clear the shelves?

And this is the issue you want to focus on..

Good luck with that man.

PS. Do feel free to go back to August of 2007 and "shame" me with my virgin post  

[lamourlady]

Satire/Cartoons/Parodies, right?  Hey, it was late, I couldn't sleep and nothing was happening...so I popped in here.  Gotta give the brain a little break from reality sometimes people.

[H0llyw00d]

ya know i gots to throw in the meatmen opinion again...lol
(got requested everywhere... ALOT!)

Original-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cDTabpbFDo


Updated-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52eyFuOeg7w

[citizenx]

In think some people just don't want to face the fact that Paul himself always was a phony, and always will be.

If Paul was one of your heroes or something, I pity you.

[lamourlady]

In think some people just don't want to face the fact that Paul himself always was a phony, and always will be.

If Paul was one of your heroes or something, I pity you.

If that was directed at me, nah, I like a few of his Wings tunes and I dig the Beatles later stuff, but no hero of sorts.  I just never really believed that whole thing and thought it would pass the time to see what was being said.  Like I said...pure boredom, although I don't wish to detract from the fun others are having in their debate.  I support freedom of speech and the right to fly off the topics.  That's why this area is here. 

[citizenx]

It wasn't directed at any one person.  Least of all you.  I don't even know you, Lady.

Take it easy.

[Dig]

Nice to see someone is on the same page.  Was starting to think I was on some solo twilight zone trip.

"Church of Bob" very funny, never heard of it before.

http://www.subgenius.com

[citizenx]

Now there's a site I haven't heard of in a long time.

Brings me back to the early days of the web.

Glad to see it's still around.

[Viper]

f**k em' all.

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We are born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us, it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others."

[jimd3100]

this is a harmless pop-conspiracy nearly fifty years old, before computers, don't deny us freedom to choose, lets not go all fascist and fill our post counts with hate, now this is in the satire section, with your stupid thread name are you still not happy mr conscience?

Be carefull what you call harmless, yes harmless for people who are not batshit crazy.

I've been aware of the "Paul is dead" hoax since it first came out when I was 6. Yea, it was fun "looking for clues" and stuff.
The apple core videos or rotten apple whatever they are called are entertaining, especially after toking on a big fattie. But it ain't real. Paul is not dead. He never was.
Anyone that really gets into this big time and truly believes it.......they are an "obsessed" fan. It then turns from a fun thing to point out at parties, to something sinister.

Crazy.......
http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/

You all believe whatever you want. As you can tell from my avatar I am a Beatles Fan. "Obsessed" fans have already done this.....

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=dgMMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=PloDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6105,14577&dq=lennon+shot&hl=en

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/583403.stm

Thanks a f**kin lot.

[jimd3100]

we have someone posting here who is deliberately foisting a hoax on the forum   

Yup!

[jimd3100]

15 Jun 2010
David Cameron has apologised for the actions of British soldiers after the Saville Inquiry found that 14 civil rights demonstrators and bystanders were killed without justification.
A total of 13 unarmed civilians, seven of them teenagers, died in Londonderry when soldiers from 1st Battalion, the Parachute Regiment opened fire during clashes after the banned march was stopped from entering the city centre on January 30 1972.
A 14th man died some time later from his injuries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/northernireland/7829208/Bloody-Sunday-Inquiry-Cameron-apologises-as-Saville-says-shootings-unjustified.html

It took Britain, until 2010 to admit that what happened in 1972 is exactly as John Lennon sang about weeks after it happened.

Lennon's song recorded just a few weeks after the actual event in 1972, as you see in the video, the album he made at the time was in the form of a newspaper, as he was trying to give real news, he was a truther....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKJOUo8zuNE

Lennon wanted to become a U.S. Citizen, meaning, the Queen will no longer get one cent from him.

Lennon returned his MBE to the crown.

Lennon had two of most powerfull governments on the planet "out to get him". England and the U.S.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=777046699234389996#

Lennon was not perfect, he was a human, but he sang as far as I am concerned what should be the theme song of the "truth movement"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn85BeeiwZo

Who's side do you think he would have been on during the Revolutionary war? It's pretty obvious.

Anyone claiming he was part of the Illuminati doesn't know what they are talking about. He was a musician, and a "truther" before there was the term.

Sorry this has nothing to do with Paul being dead, thought I'd post something real and true in this thread, so you'll just have to excuse me.

[Viper]

[citizenx]

No Ringo is 70 and loving it apparently.

I met him once.

Can't say when or where.  Top, top secret.

Not, maybe, the world's greatest musician, but a heckuva nice guy IMO.

[DAVIDE MTL]

let me know if you disagree with the following
the beatles songs were written by theo adorno, the beatles, rolling stones and rock music were part of culture creation for the purpose of getting the kids on drugs and the sexual revolution....Lennon was killed by a mk ultra victim...nevertheless I still enjoy listening to the beatles tunes

[Kilgore Trout]

I disagree , it seems too much credit to give these operatives. And why start these "revolutions" whne at that time the world trusted most of what the media and government said?

[citizenx]

New mindf#%k for a new generation?

[Kilgore Trout]

New mindf#%k for a new generation?

eh , I think what really motivates these people is not mind games but money , sweat equity , to own our labor is their power , that game all by itself is enough of a mindf**k for me...I see the rest of this as entertainment.

[Freeski]

I disagree , it seems too much credit to give these operatives. And why start these "revolutions" whne at that time the world trusted most of what the media and government said?

Ah, but only an extremely small percentage of musicians ever make the big leagues and it has little to do with actual talent, ability or artistry -- but rather marketability. Whether by evil intent or not, most big-name artists are selected by the industry gatekeepers.

[Kilgore Trout]

Ah, but only an extremely small percentage of musicians ever make the big leagues and it has little to do with actual talent, ability or artistry -- but rather marketability. Whether by evil intent or not, most big-name artists are selected by the industry gatekeepers.

True yes , to develope an "artist" is to make a product , they will choose what is marketable for the ultimate end CASH.

[Freeski]

True yes , to develope an "artist" is to make a product , they will choose what is marketable for the ultimate end CASH.

And the same goes for novelists.

[DAVIDE MTL]

I disagree , it seems too much credit to give these operatives. And why start these "revolutions" whne at that time the world trusted most of what the media and government said?

i think you underestimate the elite, among other reasons a drugged out public  not concentrating on world affairs are much easier to control

[Kilgore Trout]

i think you underestimate the elite, among other reasons a drugged out public  not concentrating on world affairs are much easier to control

Well , they could make the good drugs legal and speed up the process a bit. I also think there are multi facets to the "elite" and that they are on different teams to a degree. Not all members of any group will agree on all aspects of their "works". I still think to discredit the musicians who "wrote" the music is kind of off the mark.

So to you , the goal is to make people drugged out from pop music? If so they could just start playing way more floyd etc..


als o the hippies were very in tune with world affairs.

[Kilgore Trout]

And the same goes for novelists.

That's why I write for me , I play music for me...if some fool hearted listener or reader wanted to buy it , cool , if not  , I got a day job...

[Freeski]

That's why I write for me , I play music for me...if some fool hearted listener or reader wanted to buy it , cool , if not  , I got a day job...

Awesome!

[DAVIDE MTL]

Well , they could make the good drugs legal and speed up the process a bit. I also think there are multi facets to the "elite" and that they are on different teams to a degree. Not all members of any group will agree on all aspects of their "works". I still think to discredit the musicians who "wrote" the music is kind of off the mark.

So to you , the goal is to make people drugged out from pop music? If so they could just start playing way more floyd etc..


als o the hippies were very in tune with world affairs.
I'm not discrediting the musicians who wrote the music, the theory is the beatles themselves didn't write it,not sure to what extent it's true,  and I'm a fan of their music, the goal was to bring the drug and free sex culture in through rock n roll

[Kilgore Trout]

Okay , it sounds far fetched to me , but I don't buy much of our topics here , I at least take some with a grain of salt , others with a PILAR.

[TheCaliKid]

Awesome.

[graffX]

als o the hippies were very in tune with world affairs.

Perhaps. Most of the ones I knew were too busy getting free love or smoking a bone to get off their stoned arses, or to really give a damn about world affairs, regardless of their state of being "informed". Same end result... business as usual in corporate America. Listening to and singing along with Country Joe and the Fish was about as political as they got. The ones that did get politically involved later on assisted in the deconstruction of our culture. Let's see... you were about 3, plus or minus years old (at most) in the heyday of the hippies?         Not bashing you for your youth, but seriously, you're perhaps relying on the writings of hippies to tell the story? Good point about the sources of some of the popular music... the Beatles were promoted and assisted for the wrong reasons.

Sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll were the tools used to diffuse and defuse the potential '60's revolution against the evils of global military-industrial corporatism. The results were all bad, according to plan. The mechanisms of social control used in the '60's  were researched in the '40's and '50's, and were instigated by the CIA and promoted by the MSM with funding from the major banks and corporations.

War is a Racket     http://warisaracket.org/dedication.html

[Kilgore Trout]

Perhaps. Most of the ones I knew were too busy getting free love or smoking a bone to get off their stoned arses, or to really give a damn about world affairs, regardless of their state of being "informed". Same end result... business as usual in corporate America. Listening to and singing along with Country Joe and the Fish was about as political as they got. The ones that did get politically involved later on assisted in the deconstruction of our culture. Let's see... you were about 3, plus or minus years old (at most) in the heyday of the hippies?        Not bashing you for your youth, but seriously, you're perhaps relying on the writings of hippies to tell the story? Good point about the sources of some of the popular music... the Beatles were promoted and assisted for the wrong reasons.

Sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll were the tools used to diffuse and defuse the potential '60's revolution against the evils of global military-industrial corporatism. The results were all bad, according to plan. The mechanisms of social control used in the '60's  were researched in the '40's and '50's, and were instigated by the CIA and promoted by the MSM with funding from the major banks and corporations.

War is a Racket     http://warisaracket.org/dedication.html

I was born in 77 , so yeah I wasn't there , but I look at all the footage from that time , people were being beaten by cops in the street because they were protesting and rioting , I know ultimately no matter what big business seems to win , I'm just not convinced that everyone involved is an paid for operative , nor do I believe that there exists one elite with one sole agenda.


The protestors must have raised questions in the minds of some of the poplulation as to the legitamcy of the action in vietnam , why even risk that?

[citizenx]

I'm glad you're just kidding.  A guy could take that "Agent of Darkness" stuff kinda hard.

(Actually, the title is pretty cool.  It's the company I couldn't deal with.)

[graffX]

I'm just not convinced that everyone involved is an paid for operative...

Nor do I. I do believe that the love of money is the ROOT of all evil, and that most people will serve their own interests. It is only necessary to install a few people in key positions in order to steer things to the result that is desired, in this case, total Marxist/Gramscian socialist global hegemony over every living soul.

"Cultural hegemony is the philosophic and sociological concept, originated by the Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci, that a culturally-diverse society can be ruled or dominated by one of its social classes. It is the dominance of one social group over another, e.g. the ruling class over all other classes. The theory claims that the ideas of the ruling class come to be seen as the norm; they are seen as universal ideologies, perceived to benefit everyone whilst only really benefiting the ruling class."   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony

[Dig]

To those who are naysaying this thread , remember this is how 911 truthers (me too) sound to everyone else.

Not true, this is how no planers sound to everyone else.

[EvadingGrid]

The thread title :
"Forum Member Gullibility Test: Is Paul McCartney Dead?"

Says it all 

[Kilgore Trout]

Not true, this is how no planers sound to everyone else.

Whenever I talk 911 , I get general pop with glazed over eyes.