Forum Member Gullibility Test: Is Paul McCartney Dead?

[menace]

When I hear the Helter Skelter song from the Beatles, I get the image of drug out hippies and  Flowerchilds playing at an children's playground at some park some were.

[NinjaGaijin]

sounds like charlie lol

[37]

When I hear the Helter Skelter song from the Beatles, I get the image of drug out hippies...

sounds like charlie lol

[N.E.P.]

Let It Be (1970) documentary


http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjAwMTMzNzI=.html



A documentary showing both how The Beatles made music together, and how they split up. Hundreds of hours of raw footage was condensed into the final product. The rooftop performance ending the film remains a rock-n-roll archetype.  Written by Ed Chen {echen@bcm.tmc.edu}

Filmed on location at Apple and Twickenham Film Studios, The Beatles bang out songs and reminisce. Yoko Ono is a cloying presence as John Lennon's silent, somewhat useless appendage throughout the film's entirety. The final moments of film are the band's legendary lunchtime performance on the roof of Apple. It was the first time the band had played together in three years and would also be the last. Things go along quite nicely until the chief officer of a nearby bank calls in the cops and has the impromptu performance shut down. John closing the band's rooftop performance: "I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and I hope we passed the audition."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065976/plotsummary

[albinolime]

There is a sequence of letters on his website and in his videos that I don't understand - "XKFKUFYDHZHZQ" which sometimes appears in conjunction with what I think could be a reversed or partially reversed date "90020802" (yes, I know there's no such thing as an "80" in any date - but he does this with dates all through his videos).

02/08/2009, the grammys
Performance by: Paul McCartney

[walrus]

I know I'm coming late to the party, but I've been researching this for about 2 years, and I'm convinced Paul was replaced somewhere in late August to mid September 1966. Last year, some forensics experts chimed in to the debate, saying it was "highly likely" Paul was replaced in 1966.

Paul McCartney is dead: proof he was repaCIAed

Forensic science proves Paul was replaced

[DoNotObey]

I doubt he is dead. George and John are dead not paul or ringo. I like alot of rock and metal so im still defending the genre when i hear a conspiracy on it. I just dont think the actuall people in the band are involved with the nwo. Now the ones that run the record companies might be.

[walrus]

There is no way to prove that he is dead, only that he was replaced. It is my considered opinion that he is dead, though.

Paul, they had him murdered

[H0llyw00d]

Saw the man @ the Patriot center in 02, ...one helluva show...one helluva entertainer....wasn't dead @ all!!

[walrus]

For the benefit of people who might think it's "impossible" to impostor-replace someone.

Double Fantasy: Background Information on Doubles

Judy in Disguise: Doubles, Impostors and Disguises

Personally, I think it'd probably be harder to steal an election, but we all know that's been done.

[H0llyw00d]

Koo Koo Kachoo!!

[Djævlen]

For the benefit of people who might think it's "impossible" to impostor-replace someone.

Double Fantasy: Background Information on Doubles

Judy in Disguise: Doubles, Impostors and Disguises

Personally, I think it'd probably be harder to steal an election, but we all know that's been done.

my problem with this whole theory is that yes, it might be easy to replace a face or a body, but you cant replace that level of talent.

[H0llyw00d]

my problem with this whole theory is that yes, it might be easy to replace a face or a body, but you cant replace that level of talent.

tis my point on my 1st reply here
helluva showman....helluva show......worth the ...*gulp*.....$300/per



(and sorry, but I hated the beatles)

[walrus]

my problem with this whole theory is that yes, it might be easy to replace a face or a body, but you cant replace that level of talent.

I think Paul was a genius, but the double is a mediocre talent at best. JMO

Paul was not the only person in the history of the world to have been replaCIAed.

PolitiCIAn imposter-replacement: Saddam Hussein

Imposter-replaCIAment: Osama bin Laden

IMO, this is an important agenda to reveal. This is probably not the appropriate category considering the seriousness of the matter, but I didn't want to commit a faux pas by starting a new thread on the same subject.

[yzinger]

Operation Blackjack............at the end,  Boston Globe,  date.........June 21 2011, has sigificance to occult numerology
June 21 2011........june =6+2+1+2=11+11..........11:11
who ever wrote the piece knows the sigificance of this date

check this site

http://adventofdeception.com/occult-numerology-2012

[Djævlen]

I think Paul was a genius, but the double is a mediocre talent at best. JMO
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i dont know dude, Let It Be, Yesterday, and Hey Jude (to name a few "post Faux" era) are pretty genius. Plus all the hits he had with Wings (admittedly not up to par with the Beatles, but still.)

[DoNotObey]

if paul was replaced in 66 why couldnt the beatles of just been like we had to let paul go. The fans would of been pissed.

[attietewd]

This is weird.  I also just found this out last night.  And I do believe it.  After what I know now, I believe it.

He died on nov. 9 1966.  So what is the significance over this 9-11

[walrus]

i dont know dude, Let It Be, Yesterday, and Hey Jude (to name a few "post Faux" era) are pretty genius. Plus all the hits he had with Wings (admittedly not up to par with the Beatles, but still.)

"Yesterday" was definitely Paul - that was 1965.

I agree that some of the post-replacement songs are quite good. It is my considered opinion that Paul left behind songs, song ideas, maybe even laid down tracks that were incorporated into later songs (such as the middle bit of "A Day in the Life"). It is possible that we really are hearing Paul on later albums. I think it's also possible that the double wrote songs himself or had songs given to him.

Putting this aside, as it's impossible to know what the real story is, it has been noted that Paul played bass & sang at the same time, which is difficult to do, as most bass players will attest. The fact that he could do it without hardly ever looking at the fretboard is the mark of a very talented musician. JMO

Paul McCartney is Dead- Yesterday 1966 & 1976

Also consider the quality of the voice. Paul had a beautiful voice that stood on its own. Faul's on the other hand... Well, please judge for yourself.

THE BEATLES - THE NIGHT BEFORE (Paul's Single voice HVS Mix)

BACK IN THE USSR (Paul´s vocal track)

Or watch them at Voiceprints, vocal mimicry, & technology

[walrus]

This is weird.  I also just found this out last night.  And I do believe it.  After what I know now, I believe it.

He died on nov. 9 1966.  So what is the significance over this 9-11

It's also possible that September 11, 1966 (9/11/66) was meant on the Sgt. Pepper drum.



Personally, I think Paul was most likely replaced at the end of August 1966, though.

Was Paul McCartney replaCIAed in August 1966?

[DoNotObey]

Why would they replace paul and keep it a secret. if he died why would it be secret.

[H0llyw00d]

Why would they replace paul and keep it a secret. if he died why would it be secret.

because, originally it was an album selling gimmick in 1969 that some how has gone horribly wrong to this day....
they did that to promote "Peppers" cause Paul pissed em off one night @ contracted compilation album rehearsal...and sadly, it has taken on a life of its own.

It's also possible that September 11, 1966 (9/11/66) was meant on the Sgt. Pepper drum.



Personally, I think Paul was most likely replaced at the end of August 1966, though.

Was Paul McCartney replaCIAed in August 1966?

the towers ground breaking was in 8-66, so i doubt theres any hidden 9/11 2001 on the peppers album.


can't believe I'm defending that horrible band....(loved John SOLO, and Paul SOLO + Wings tho.. )
amazing how far a conspiracy can get blowed out of proportion

[Shroom!]

I dunno about this. Some of the evidence that says he was replaced looks really convincing. Some of it does not at all. Interesting though.

[DoNotObey]

Just my personal opinon. I dont blame any of you but i think all of you spend way to much time on pp and the nwo. When you do that you find conspiracys on everything that ever was. Thoe for some reason i can accpet the truth on whats going on in the government.but when there is a conspiracy on rock and heavy metal i dont accpet it.

[walrus]

Why would they replace paul and keep it a secret. if he died why would it be secret.

Famous, popular people are used to promote the Agenda. If those people are not team players, they will be terminated. A stooge double will "become" that person to promote whatever agenda TPTB want. My personal feeling is that Paul was unwilling to "sell" the psycho-chemical warfare agent, LSD, to fans. The impostor was the first British pop-star to publicly talk about taking LSD (June 1967).

Agents for change: Beatles, LSD, & social-engineering

In addition, the Beatles were starting to speak out against the Vietnam war (they did so in one of Paul's last interviews in Memphis on August 1966 [youtube link to interview]). They did so in a serious, thoughtful manner (not sitting in bags or standing on their heads), and they had a huge audience. Paul said: "It seems like anyone who feels that fighting is wrong should have the right not to go." (1966) I'm sure this wasn't a "healthy" position to take at a time when TPTB were looking to expand the war machine:

MK-ULTRA & the '60's "counter-culture"

So, in my opinion, Paul had at least 2 strikes against him: the fact that he was speaking out against the war and the probability that he was not willing to promote a drug culture.

Going back to Faul's musicianship, Mal Evans said he wrote "Fixing a Hole" with Faul. Evans was about to take his tell-all Beatles book to the publishers when he was shot to death by police.

Dying the Bea†les Legend: Mal Evans' suspicious death (updated))

[Kilgore Trout]

Just my personal opinon. I dont blame any of you but Ithink all of you spend way to much time on pp and the nwo. When you do that you find conspiracys on everything that ever was. Thoe for some reason i can accpet the truth on whats going on in the government.but when there is a conspiracy on rock and heavy metal i dont accpet it.

For the most part I agree , but this issue in particular I find fascinating. Whether it "real" or not , it's pretty damn interesting . What else we gonna do ..? watch (follow) sports or American (M)idol...

[independentWV]

For the most part I agree , but this issue in particular I find fascinating. Whether it "real" or not , it's pretty damn interesting . What else we gonna do ..? watch (follow) sports or American (M)idol...

Agree, it is interesting. Too bad someone cannot get sample for DNA test. 

[Kilgore Trout]

I guess that would require the body of "Faul" ...the body alone would be huge...I listen to that radio clown "Mancow" sometimes and he's been teasing through commercials with "Is Paul dead..?" alluding to this very thing.

[Shroom!]

Agree, it is interesting. Too bad someone cannot get sample for DNA test. 

If someone really wanted to get his DNA it wouldn't be that hard. Unless he has no fingerprints or never loses any hairs.

[DoNotObey]

Replaced or not thats the era when the beatles became good. Could them replacing paul be the reason i thought it was the lsd.

[Kilgore Trout]

If someone really wanted to get his DNA it wouldn't be that hard. Unless he has no fingerprints or never loses any hairs.

Not too hard to get "The current Paul's" dna , but the "dead" one ,  might be tough to get his dna...

[walrus]

Not too hard to get "The current Paul's" dna , but the "dead" one ,  might be tough to get his dna...

That's exactly right. It wouldn't be hard to get Faul's DNA, but how would one get an authenticated sample of Paul's DNA? Please, if anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them!

Bettina Krischbin, a woman whose mother sued Faul for paternity back in the 1980's, said Faul sent a stand in to give blood:

"Paul's" stand-in gave blood in paternity case

I don't think there was any danger that Faul would have been found to be this woman's father, so why would he need to send a stand-in? It occurs to me that perhaps Faul did not want his information to be available to a court.

So, since it is probably impossible to get a DNA sample of them, then we have to resort to good old-fashioned methods of detecting an impostor - looking for physical and non-physical differences.

Impostor-detection methods

[Kilgore Trout]

Walrus , I think I posted that 19 minute doc from google video on this subject earlier in this thread , have you seen that one? I think that's pretty good. But a "stand in" to give blood , how is that allowed? what form does something like take , I mean is that actually what happened...?

[walrus]

Walrus , I think I posted that 19 minute doc from google video on this subject earlier in this thread , have you seen that one? I think that's pretty good. But a "stand in" to give blood , how is that allowed? what form does something like take , I mean is that actually what happened...?

Hi, Kilgore,

I'm sorry, I'm not sure which video you mean. Was it a Rotten Apple?

It seems that Erika Huebers (the one who had the affair w/ Paul in Hamburg) & Bettina Krischbin (the alleged daughter) thought it was not Paul on the photo that was submitted to the court as "proof of identity." What I got from the articles was that they were saying that the pictures of Faul from the '80's was different from the photo, so that he sent a stand-in to give blood. On the other hand, Krischbin said:

[Recently looking in the files, Bettina] saw a photo together with a signature from the day blood was taken in London. Her verdict: “That is not McCartney. The real McCartney had at this time a much fuller face. The man in the photo looks like McCartney. But he isn’t.” Even the signature is supposedly false. This signature does not hold up to a comparison with the original in the Hamburger Beatles-Museum. In addition: “Friends of mine have looked at and said: a right-handed person wrote that.”

Source: Patrick Goldstein, “Berliner Staatsanwalt ermittelt gegen Paul McCartney,” DIE WELT, 19. Mai 2007.

So, are they saying that Faul sent a stand-in, or WAS Faul the stand-in?

W

[DoNotObey]

What other conspiracies are there in the classic rock and metal world

[walrus]

When I hear the Helter Skelter song from the Beatles, I get the image of drug out hippies and  Flowerchilds playing at an children's playground at some park some were.

Vladimir Lenin once said: "One quick way to destroy a society is through its music."

...McCartney (Faul) "wrote 'Helter Skelter' to be the most raucous vocal, the loudest drums, et cetera" and said he was "using the symbol of a helter skelter as a ride from the top to the bottom—the rise and fall of the Roman Empire—and this was the fall, the demise."[1]...

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helter_Skelter_(song)

Charles Manson wanted to commit random murders to "trigger Helter Skelter."

How music is used to manipulate people

[walrus]

What other conspiracies are there in the classic rock and metal world

John Lennon was targeted by Operation Walrus.

Jimi Hendrix, Brian Jones, Sonny Bono were murdered/assassinated.

Mama Cass & Keith Moon both died in Harry Nilsson's London flat 4 yrs apart.

Jim Morrison was a plant - his father was the admiral at the false flag Gulf of Tonkin attack.

[Kilgore Trout]

Not sure if anyone has posted this video yet. It is very matter of fact and more concise than the OP's video , though that was very cool.  Only about 19 minutes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3339951952377456839&hl=en#

walrus , this was the video I was talking about.^

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What other conspiracies are there in the classic rock and metal world

Most oddball...Hendrix prophecy that an asteroid will destroy us.

http://www.rockprophecy.com/mn4.html

[walrus]

walrus , this was the video I was talking about.^

Thanks, Kilgore. I think I may have seen that video a long time ago. There were some things I don't personally agree with in it. For example, Keith Allison won the Paul McCartney look-alike contest (1965). I doubt they would make the winner the double (too high profile), but it may have been an opportunity to scout for talent... Also, the OPP patch (Ontario Provincial Police) may have been doctored to look like OPD as a clue.

I highly doubt that the double's name is "Billy Shears." That could actually be a reference to William Shakespeare, who may well have been the pen name of Sir Francis Bacon. This is especially interesting considering the King Lear death bit at the end of "I am the Walrus." I also think Walrus may be a reference to Sir Law (Walrus backwards). Sir Law seems to be Gen. Bernard Law Montgomery. He had a famous double named M.E. Clifton James who posed as Monty in WWII. I also don't, personally, buy the "accident" story.

But other than that, the video did a good job on a lot of the other clues