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« on: September 10, 2009, 05:16:31 PM » |
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Hey all. I was just looking around on http://ae911truth.org and downloaded an MP3 of a radio interview of Dr. Sunder from NIST on Oct. 15, 2008 and it is an interesting 30 minute interview that I had not ever heard before. There are several statements in this which people may find interesting. First, I heard Dr. Sunder state that the molten metal coming out of the corner of one of the towers prior to collapse was silver in color, which is an absolute lie (it was yellow/orange glow). Then he basically labels anything having to do with controlled demolition as not credible (thus acknowledging they looked for explanations to support their prejudiced desired outcome). This lead right into something that REALLY stood out for me. Dr. Sunder appears to acknowledge thermite in dust samples of WTC but simply dismisses it as "isolated observations". That means he is basically saying "sure, there is thermite in the dust...but that does not mean thermite was used in any way to facilitate building collapse because we deem that hypothesis to be not credible." Listen to the whole thing or start at about 12 minutes in to get to what I am mentioning specifically. The page I found this download link: http://www.ae911truth.org/downloads.phpDirect link to this MP3: http://noliesradio.org/archives/Nist%20Dr%20Sunder%20Interview_080821_widmusic-web.mp3Anyway, I found this interesting. |
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Let_Freedom_Ring
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 09:33:53 AM » |
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What really bugs me about the whole thing, is that if this investigation had been done 8 years ago.. sure, there might have been a chance of the Bush ''regime" being exposed and indicted. But think about what is likely to occur if and when all this ever comes out into the light at this point. Bush and his cronies will deny any sort of knowledge, most likely saying: "Gee, what's nano-thermite?", etc.. etc. The blame will then shift to the supposed terrorists having somehow planted the 10-100 tons of the chemical, not INCLUDING building 7 (What? another1-7 tons for that one?), and on and on. Witnesses prior to the days of 9/11 who worked in the building, reported that for weeks prior to the event, hearing incredibly LOUD construction of certain floors of the buildings, that were closed off to the public. Heavy machinery, loud bangs, etc.. while the claims were made that massive "electrical work" was being done during that time (?). Only if they are able to (at this late a point in time), subpoena those construction companies and workers, can we begin to even hope for the uncovering of answers. Time WAS of the essence, and Bush and his regime did a perfect "timing" of the whole thing (it being committed at the very beginning of his "reign" and him being able to buy all this time SINCE then; is what I'm saying), as to ever have to face actual criminal persecution. They knew what they were doing, and may God punish them all for all eternity for it; I've little hope that the United States of America ever will (punish); unfortunately.
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pollenate439
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 09:39:32 PM » |
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First, I heard Dr. Sunder state that the molten metal coming out of the corner of one of the towers prior to collapse was silver in color, which is an absolute lie (it was yellow/orange glow).
What color does molten metal turn to? |
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maim
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2009, 09:42:22 PM » |
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What color does molten metal turn to?
depends on the temperature |
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pollenate439
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 09:56:08 PM » |
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depends on the temperature
in order to get it to a yellow/orange color... I'm not sure what tempurature that would be? |
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 02:13:56 AM » |
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in order to get it to a yellow/orange color... I'm not sure what tempurature that would be?
depends on the contents of the metal. |
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pollenate439
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 08:37:14 AM » |
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Well maybe kenischange can clarify this confusion since he is the originator of this post.
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Mike Philbin
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 08:46:19 AM » |
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well, even more so, if those spineless bastards in the mainstream media would have brought this to the attention of investigators so that 9-11 could have been investigated PROPERLY back in 2002, not only would the whole Bush/Cheney NWO scheme been unearthed but all those lives in Iraq and Afghanistan and the 7/7 and 11/3 abominations would have been averted and we would not be headed at full speed into a MASS GENOCIDE called mandatory vaccine and Level 6 WHO world government.
I hate spineless bastards!
Hate!
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pollenate439
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 08:49:29 AM » |
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well, even more so, if those spineless bastards in the mainstream media would have brought this to the attention of investigators so that 9-11 could have been investigated PROPERLY back in 2002, not only would the whole Bush/Cheney NWO scheme been unearthed but all those lives in Iraq and Afghanistan and the 7/7 and 11/3 abominations would have been averted and we would not be headed at full speed into a MASS GENOCIDE called mandatory vaccine and Level 6 WHO world government.
I hate spineless bastards!
Hate!
Does the mainstream media perform forensic investigations? |
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2009, 02:30:27 PM » |
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Does the mainstream media perform forensic investigations?
Who needs a "forensic investigation?" There was so much evidence in the mainstream media that showed it was an inside job - like for example, the sounds of bombs going off, the stream of molten metal coming out of the one of the towers before it fell, the manner the WTC1, 2 and 7 collapsed... Ghouliani saying he was warned one of the towers was about to fall.. |
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Mike Philbin
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2009, 01:54:31 PM » |
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Ghouliani!
NIce.
Anyway, I'm a big boy now DON'T f**kING KEEP TRUTHS FROM ME any more, no matter how dificult they may be to swallow.
I'll take the f**king reality shock, I just don't want any more lies. I'm sick of marketing guys thinking they can sell me on any stupid narrative invention that white-washes the globalist agenda.
Mike
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2012, 02:05:57 PM » |
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depends on the contents of the metal.
Actually, this is not the case. Wien's Law of Displacement explains this, as does Correlated Color Temperature. Basically, everything carbon based will glow the same color (emit the same color radiation) when heated to a specific temperature. If you look at the chart on this site, you will get a basic understanding of the temperatures needed to produce a certain color "glow": http://www.blksmth.com/heat_colors.htmI have actually submitted an email to NIST explaining this, as well as my attempts to replicate their theory of "molten aluminum mixed with organic materials", which were anything but successful, though I have not yet received any response. This is a subject many do not understand. I feel NIST tried to play on public ignorance of the subject in an attempt to cover reality, which was the absolute impossibility and improbability that this material could have been generated and heating to it's apparent temperature in a diffuse burn fire containing office materials, many of which are required to be fire-resistant by code. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2012, 03:11:15 PM » |
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Their original response was very strange.
They announced that there was no chain of custody on the dust.
Without critiqueing the results.
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