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« Reply #120 on: September 08, 2009, 03:09:20 PM »

chalk this 1 up as another good reminder to "read the fine print"

how about making that don't forget to ad the fine print lol.
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« Reply #121 on: September 08, 2009, 03:10:04 PM »

http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/

When a non-9/11 truther reads the article, he has very little understanding of the events which occurred on that day. He has a basic understanding of the Government proposed explanation of what happened on 9/11 and believes that to be the truth, but he is interested in seeing a different perspective. So our new audience begins to read this article and becomes interested in the facts presented.

He reads the entire article in awe at the questions and insights he has been presented with, he is ready to be converted, his illusion has been shattered, until... he reads at the bottom that the article is fictional, and he is hit with a dilemma:

"What parts of this article are also fictional? Are any of the facts true?"

Now the non-9/11 Truther may research the facts and come to the conclusion that they are true, but it is much more likely that he become disinterested in a 9/11 truthers perspective as their arguments are represented through fantasty.

In his mind, the 9/11 truthers have no credibility to their articles and to begin a deeper investigation into their viewpoints becomes unnecessary and a tedious waste of his time. He will not make the same mistake again, only to be suckered into another deluded fantasy world where the government is lying to him.

GAME OVER: NWO 1 - ALEX JONES 0

I watched this happen today at work.  A guy I work with, an ardent Ron Paul supporter, but not a believer in 911 truth, read the interview then came storming over to tell me that "Alex Jones has just lost all credibility with me - that was a FAKE!" (colorful language edited out).

Maybe that's not the reaction that everyone will have... but in my view, Ron Paul supporters who don't see 911 as an inside job are as close as anyone can get to becoming a 'truther'.  This guy was not happy with being duped (even if you argue it was satire, as Sane pointed out in another thread), some people just don't like Alex, resent the 'joke' on them, and will be turned off.

I guess the question is whether the number of people who wake up to the unanswered questions will be greater than those who get ticked off. My guess is that more people will know about the unanswered questions now than ever before.. even if ticked off, they'll be curious.


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« Reply #122 on: September 08, 2009, 03:10:44 PM »

DAMN IT GENIUS GENIUS GENIUS (most basic form of mind control is repetition).

Fine, maybe not genius, but definitely...

BRILLIANT!



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The Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor looked like "genius" in 1941, but 4 years later, not so much.

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« Reply #123 on: September 08, 2009, 03:11:32 PM »

what kind of stupid shit is? not real? post that warning up top ... truth movement stinks it up sometimes
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« Reply #124 on: September 08, 2009, 03:11:51 PM »

I watched this happen today at work.  A guy I work with, an ardent Ron Paul supporter, but not a believer in 911 truth, read the interview then came storming over to tell me that "Alex Jones has just lost all credibility with me - that was a FAKE!" (colorful language edited out).

Maybe that's not the reaction that everyone will have... but in my view, Ron Paul supporters who don't see 911 as an inside job are as close as anyone can get to becoming a 'truther'.  This guy was not happy with being duped (even if you argue it was satire, as Sane pointed out in another thread), some people just don't like Alex, resent the 'joke' on them, and will be turned off.

I guess the question is whether the number of people who wake up to the unanswered questions will be greater than those who get ticked off. My guess is that more people will know about the unanswered questions now than ever before.. even if ticked off, they'll be curious.




 So far that is what has happened with me in every case I have shown it to someone.
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« Reply #125 on: September 08, 2009, 03:13:14 PM »

Put the F*in disclamer at the top of the page!

I emailed this out to all my friends.

As if being a 9-11 truther is hard enough, there goes MY credability, and im sure many other people who though to reference this as FACT.

Im loosing a lot of respect for Alex.
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« Reply #126 on: September 08, 2009, 03:13:52 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs
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« Reply #127 on: September 08, 2009, 03:13:57 PM »

Cheesy

The Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor looked like "genius" in 1941, but 4 years later, not so much.

 Smiley

The Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor from the very beginning was a deal between the british monarchy and Hirohito to get the US into the war and guarantee Hirohito 50 years of power.

By any stretch of the imagination either by a West Point graduate or even just a child who grew up playing cowboys and indians (hopefully no offense to anyone), it was the worst strategic strike in the history of global warfare.
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« Reply #128 on: September 08, 2009, 03:16:26 PM »

Put the F*in disclamer at the top of the page!

I emailed this out to all my friends.

As if being a 9-11 truther is hard enough, there goes MY credability, and im sure many other people who though to reference this as FACT.

Im loosing a lot of respect for Alex.

dude, if your friends actually read it, they will be forever changed in a positive way concerning truth. Whether you like it or not.
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« Reply #129 on: September 08, 2009, 03:16:51 PM »

Put the F*in disclamer at the top of the page!

I emailed this out to all my friends.

As if being a 9-11 truther is hard enough, there goes MY credability, and im sure many other people who though to reference this as FACT.

Im loosing a lot of respect for Alex.

Got burned once ... i thought it was the 'truth' movement, not the false movement. Nice work AJ .. cancelling my PPTV.
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« Reply #130 on: September 08, 2009, 03:18:42 PM »

For sure, Obama knows his place

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« Reply #131 on: September 08, 2009, 03:19:22 PM »

dude, if your friends actually read it, they will be forever changed in a positive way concerning truth. Whether you like it or not.

Sane ... the message is one thing, the messenger is another. If you know anything about human psychology/behavior ... it's not what is said it's how it's presented ... this is presented as truth but it really isn't. Your standards have truly dropped.
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« Reply #132 on: September 08, 2009, 03:20:04 PM »

Got burned once ... i thought it was the 'truth' movement, not the false movement. Nice work AJ .. cancelling my PPTV.


uh, WTF?

Did Jonathon Swift put a disclaimer on "A Modest Proposal"?

I sure as hell glad he did not, probably would have been less free will and human spirit in the world if he did. 

Shit if anyone who reads this is not shocked that these questions are still unanswered I would be amazed. Who cares that Obama still obstructs justice by not doing the interview. The truth is in this interview.
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« Reply #133 on: September 08, 2009, 03:21:41 PM »

 The article is well written, well researched, and as thought-provoking as anything that has been printed on the subject. The disclaimer at the bottom, only confirms the honesty presented in the article itself... and explains everything in such a way that only a Co Intel Pro agent or an ardent Alex hater could spin it to being any kind of deceit...

The number of hits that we received this morning was so unbelievable, that the servers were flickering like incandescent lamps during a power surge. You should just admit that the tactic worked beautifully... chances are the mainstream media won't even touch it... but a quarter of a million people checked it out this morning... Co-Intel sent out over 100 of their IP's to debunk, defame, and degrade... to no avail...

The Real Score: NWO-0...  Alex & Co. 100...

In the real world Road Runner, as I have explained to you before, the Road Runner seldom wins... that's why there are so few of them and so many coyotes.

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« Reply #134 on: September 08, 2009, 03:22:57 PM »

Sane ... the message is one thing, the messenger is another. If you know anything about human psychology/behavior ... it's not what is said it's how it's presented ... this is presented as truth but it really isn't. Your standards have truly dropped.

I have no standards, integrity, or credibility. I am simply some moron who happened to be tired of the lies. This interview is not a lie, read it again. It is satire exposing truth and is a tactic used by brave defenders of the human spirit for millennium.

How the hell does this damage anyone's reputation accept anyone still pushing the bullshit "official" conspiracy theory and the epic cover up?
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« Reply #135 on: September 08, 2009, 03:23:04 PM »



Shit if anyone who reads this is not shocked that these questions are still unanswered I would be amazed. Who cares that Obama still obstructs justice by not doing the interview. The truth is in this interview.

The sad fact is, most people who are not "Truthers" view Truthers as paranoid nut-jobs - if not downright unpatriotic.  A lot of that comes from the perception created by the MSM.

I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly don't see this changing many minds.
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« Reply #136 on: September 08, 2009, 03:23:58 PM »

The article is well written, well researched, and as thought-provoking as anything that has been printed on the subject. The disclaimer at the bottom, only confirms the honesty presented in the article itself... and explains everything in such a way that only a Co Intel Pro agent could spin it to being any kind of deceit...

The number of hits that we received this morning was so unbelievable, that the servers were flickering like incandescent lamps during a power surge. You should just admit that the tactic worked beautifully... chances are the mainstream media won't even touch it... but a quarter of a million people checked it out this morning... Co-Intel sent out over 100 of their IP's to debunk, defame, and degrade... to no avail...

The Real Score: NWO-0...  Alex & Co. 100...

In the real world Road Runner, as I have explained to you before, the Road Runner seldom wins... that's why there are so few of them and so many coyotes.

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All I gotta say is, WE SHALL SEE.

In the real world, the coyote dies just as often as the roadrunner.
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« Reply #137 on: September 08, 2009, 03:25:15 PM »

IF YOU THINK ALEX AND CHARLIES STUNT WILL HURT THE MOVEMENT, WAIT TILL YOU SEE THIS LATEST THING DYLAN AVERY IS INVOLVED IN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNTqKrDcARk


Wow ... Just wow ... What a horribly offensive story. I can't believe Dylan would appear in something like this.
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« Reply #138 on: September 08, 2009, 03:25:19 PM »

Im f*cking Amazed at all the idiots just complaining about this! The elite are psychos killing millions of people and this interview is a great leap forward in the infowar, since it will bring a lot of publicity!
And in an I.N.F.O.War puplicity is V.I.T.A.L!

But instead of helping this thing smash a big hole in the nwo ship, some truthers here are now starting to turn on alex, canceling prisonplanet.tv memberships and basicly just weakening the impact this new operation will have!


If it would indeed fail, it is because of all the truthers out there that just keep on bitching and never do anything usefull.

Come on! We have a New world order to crush!

Let's get this thing viral!! Will you Weaken this attack on the nwo, or will you strengten it?

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« Reply #139 on: September 08, 2009, 03:26:11 PM »

The article is well written, well researched, and as thought-provoking as anything that has been printed on the subject. The disclaimer at the bottom, only confirms the honesty presented in the article itself... and explains everything in such a way that only a Co Intel Pro agent or an ardent Alex hater could spin it to being any kind of deceit...

The number of hits that we received this morning was so unbelievable, that the servers were flickering like incandescent lamps during a power surge. You should just admit that the tactic worked beautifully... chances are the mainstream media won't even touch it... but a quarter of a million people checked it out this morning... Co-Intel sent out over 100 of their IP's to debunk, defame, and degrade... to no avail...

The Real Score: NWO-0...  Alex & Co. 100...

In the real world Road Runner, as I have explained to you before, the Road Runner seldom wins... that's why there are so few of them and so many coyotes.

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That's good to hear. I think that having seen the reaction of someone who felt like they were 'duped' made me wonder about the tactic. If the servers were lighting up, then we know that Alex was able to get tons of attention - and maybe a lot more people will be made aware of 911 bs.  That's the view from 1000 ft... my view was from 4' complete with colorful language. Wink
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« Reply #140 on: September 08, 2009, 03:28:34 PM »

All I gotta say is, WE SHALL SEE.

That's right... you, as well as all the boys and girls in the dimly lit office blocks lining the Potomac, filled with tax funded counterintelligence workstations, have got your debunking chores laid out for you on this one in a big way... good luck...

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« Reply #141 on: September 08, 2009, 03:28:59 PM »

Put the F*in disclamer at the top of the page!

I emailed this out to all my friends.

As if being a 9-11 truther is hard enough, there goes MY credability, and im sure many other people who though to reference this as FACT.

Im loosing a lot of respect for Alex.

this almost happened to me. I posted the Charlie sheen interview on another forum I frequent but immediately deleted it 2 minutes after I posted it when I realized it was fake. They view me as a nutjob a Anyways and I can't take another hit to my credibility.
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« Reply #142 on: September 08, 2009, 03:29:34 PM »

The sad fact is, most people who are not "Truthers" view Truthers as paranoid nut-jobs - if not downright unpatriotic.  A lot of that comes from the perception created by the MSM.

I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly don't see this changing many minds.

I agree; I was on Digg and there was a shitstorm. What a mess!
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« Reply #143 on: September 08, 2009, 03:30:11 PM »

I do not agree with everything in the linked article, but I believe the following except is relevant:

Satirical commentary was our founding father’s stock in trade. They made fun of King George, Parliament and just about anything British. Ben Franklin was a master of wit and sarcasm.

“Fish and visitors stink after three days,” he wrote.

“Keep your eyes wide open before marriage, half shut afterwards,” which is a Franklin comment that still remains controversial.

And there are literary classes like “Animal Farm” and “Gulliver’s Travels” ranging all the way to satirical TV shows like “Monty Python” and today’s “South Park” and “Family Guy.”

All of those have been roundly criticized and even banned.

Some folks seem to have a problem even identifying satire.


http://www.murfreesboropost.com/2008/07/20/mike-west-many-americans-shy-away-from-political-satire
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« Reply #144 on: September 08, 2009, 03:30:44 PM »

I think this whole gimmick was counterproductive.

* First you kind of mislead your loyal followers into believing that this was something big and real. It seems as a bit childish to scream for attention to people that follows your radio program daily and call it a big thing when it is not.

* I don't think Obama will bother to answer the questions. The style of having him answer the questions seems to ridicule the president which probably will turn him off into taking this seriously. Obama takes himself seriously so by ridiculing him with this mock interview you are further away from any real answers from Obama.

The conspiracy people should try to be as serious and mature as possible if they want to gain credibility.
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« Reply #145 on: September 08, 2009, 03:30:51 PM »

Im f*cking Amazed at all the idiots just complaining about this! The elite are psychos killing millions of people and this interview is a great leap forward in the infowar, since it will bring a lot of publicity!
And in an I.N.F.O.War puplicity is V.I.T.A.L!

But instead of helping this thing smash a big hole in the nwo ship, some truthers here are now starting to turn on alex, canceling prisonplanet.tv memberships and basicly just weakening the impact this new operation will have!


If it would indeed fail, it is because of all the truthers out there that just keep on bitching and never do anything usefull.

Come on! We have a New world order to crush!

Let's get this thing viral!! Will you Weaken this attack on the nwo, or will you strengten it?



If Alex murdered his entire family it would "bring a lot of publicity" too.

Yes, let's get this FAKE INTERVIEW viral!

 Roll Eyes
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« Reply #146 on: September 08, 2009, 03:31:30 PM »

Im f*cking Amazed at all the idiots just complaining about this! The elite are psychos killing millions of people and this interview is a great leap forward in the infowar, since it will bring a lot of publicity!
And in an I.N.F.O.War puplicity is V.I.T.A.L!

But instead of helping this thing smash a big hole in the nwo ship, some truthers here are now starting to turn on alex, canceling prisonplanet.tv memberships and basicly just weakening the impact this new operation will have!


If it would indeed fail, it is because of all the truthers out there that just keep on bitching and never do anything usefull.

Come on! We have a New world order to crush!

Let's get this thing viral!! Will you Weaken this attack on the nwo, or will you strengten it?



You moron the Interview is a fake.
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« Reply #147 on: September 08, 2009, 03:32:12 PM »

The sad fact is, most people who are not "Truthers" view Truthers as paranoid nut-jobs - if not downright unpatriotic.  A lot of that comes from the perception created by the MSM.

I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly don't see this changing many minds.

Not true at all. Many people simply don't put any thought into the matter because it is too upsetting. Think of all of the people who love Two and a Half Men who'll take an honest look at the conversation and the requisite bibliography simply because of Sheen.

The problem isn't about facts, its about relating those facts in a way that makes people comfortable with confronting those facts.

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« Reply #148 on: September 08, 2009, 03:33:48 PM »


You CANT fight the machine by trying to BE the machine, it will squash us like a frikkin bug for christs sake.

This is what happens when you fight the enemy on THEIR terms. Using Charlie Sheen, whether he is a good guy or not and people like him are always going to be a liability.

Bad move all around.

How much you wanna bet Mark Cuban is going to turn on you too.
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« Reply #149 on: September 08, 2009, 03:34:15 PM »

The sad fact is, most people who are not "Truthers" view Truthers as paranoid nut-jobs - if not downright unpatriotic.  A lot of that comes from the perception created by the MSM.

I hope I'm wrong, but I honestly don't see this changing many minds.

It has already helped my communications with 2 friends. They read the entire interview and independently questioned the validity. I said it was satire and asked what they thought of the questions. They were open to look deeper.

It speaks to another level. Because it is satire, it removes the defensive posture of the sheeple and they can actually consider the questions rather than desperately trying to dismiss them categorically. The interview by being a satire poses no threat to their foundation of "not rocking the boat."

BRILLIANT!

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« Reply #150 on: September 08, 2009, 03:34:47 PM »

You moron the Interview is a fake.

You are dense. That was the point. It is the conversation that someone should have with the President.

No one, at any time said that the interview had happened. You and many others simply made that up in your mind.
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« Reply #151 on: September 08, 2009, 03:35:54 PM »

If Alex murdered his entire family it would "bring a lot of publicity" too.

Yes, let's get this FAKE INTERVIEW viral!

 Roll Eyes

Uh, now that comment seems utterly counterproductive, lacks sanity, and is really, really hateful.

WTF?

That ain't satire, that is just plain f**king nasty mean.
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« Reply #152 on: September 08, 2009, 03:36:56 PM »

You moron the Interview is a fake.

It's not about the interview!

The fake obama interview is just a veichle to bring the truth to as many people as possible! Is that so incredibly hard to get?

The importance is what is written in the interview. And a lot of people will read that.
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« Reply #153 on: September 08, 2009, 03:37:43 PM »

The article is well written, well researched, and as thought-provoking as anything that has been printed on the subject. The disclaimer at the bottom, only confirms the honesty presented in the article itself... and explains everything in such a way that only a Co Intel Pro agent or an ardent Alex hater could spin it to being any kind of deceit...

The number of hits that we received this morning was so unbelievable, that the servers were flickering like incandescent lamps during a power surge. You should just admit that the tactic worked beautifully... chances are the mainstream media won't even touch it... but a quarter of a million people checked it out this morning... Co-Intel sent out over 100 of their IP's to debunk, defame, and degrade... to no avail...

The Real Score: NWO-0...  Alex & Co. 100...

In the real world Road Runner, as I have explained to you before, the Road Runner seldom wins... that's why there are so few of them and so many coyotes.

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Have you considered that those people lighting up the servers may have left with a negative impression of Alex Jones/Truthers?  And that the next time Alex hypes some "major" story, they won't bother coming back?
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« Reply #154 on: September 08, 2009, 03:37:48 PM »

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"You moron the Interview is a fake."


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"You are dense."

I just love this forum Smiley A place to vent when needed.
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« Reply #155 on: September 08, 2009, 03:39:13 PM »

STUPID, ANGRY truthers talking about DAMAGED CREDIBILITY. GIVE ME A BREAK.

First, the one who came up with this is not AJ himself. It's an a PROFESSIONAL COMEDIAN, AN ACTOR. Colbert is known for his acting more than anything else. CHARLIE SHEEN is known for that, and for being a Truther secondarily, and perhaps for being a family man, and so on. AJ is backing AN ARTIST for something he came up with on his own.

Second, for all those who're still living in their cocoons of trutherdom, well, wake up, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED. It's no longer the 90's, or 2003. We are not the wackos, the conspiracy theorists, the tin-foil hat kooks ANYMORE. We have to live up to OUR NEW STATUS. We, as a whole, are the MAINSTREAM, the biggest GROUP, among the many factions of the old paradigm. We cannot WORRY as much as we did about how to APPEAR credible ANYMORE. Because we ARE. We have the track record. Those who, DESPITE all what has transpired in the last few months, ARE STILL DELUSIONAL don't deserve that much of our respect and our circumspection. They will wake up by FORCE, either by OUR AGGRESSIVE MEDIA CAMPAIGN OR BY THE NWO HITTING THEM. We cannot be besieged in our tactics BY continuing along the OLD PARADIGM of trying to APPEAR legitimate. WE ARE. NO MATTER WHAT. WE ARE. GET THIS through your head. And through the heads of your supposed friends who haven't woken up to reality by now. (Most of you complaining are liars, I know.)
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« Reply #156 on: September 08, 2009, 03:40:07 PM »

That's right... you and all the boys and girls in the dimly lit office blocks lining the Potomac, filled with tax funded counterintelligence workstations, have got your debunking chores laid out for you on this one in a big way... good luck...


That's the best news. (Get busy you little turds... there's more coming ...)

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« Reply #157 on: September 08, 2009, 03:41:35 PM »

You are dense. That was the point. It is the conversation that someone should have with the President.

No one, at any time said that the interview had happened. You and many others simply made that up in your mind.

haha talk about an inconvenient truth! I had to deal with it this morning but I am alive and well and better off for it!

Seems like a lot of people still have yet to realize it...sadly some never will
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« Reply #158 on: September 08, 2009, 03:41:51 PM »

There were more people on the forum today than I've ever seen. Twice as many as usual I think...
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« Reply #159 on: September 08, 2009, 03:42:08 PM »

That's right... you and all the boys and girls in the dimly lit office blocks lining the Potomac, filled with tax funded counterintelligence workstations, have got your debunking chores laid out for you on this one in a big way... good luck...

JTCoyoté


Oh come on this f*cking stupid.  So anyone who disagrees or doesnt like the way things turned out today is a government agent?  So no one is allowed to give an opposing view or criticism anymore without being trashed as a cointel agent or a troll?

Isnt the whole point behind the truth movement and fight against tyranny simply to find the truth and expose the truths.  The truth by itself is all you need.  Lies and fabricated make-believe stories or fantasies arent needed, and only paves the way for more lies, more coverups and more confusion.

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