Ok, I don't get it. Why is NO ONE in the IT industry exposing WTF is going on?

[Anti_Illuminati]

Let's see here.

What's the population of the Earth now, like 6.5 billion or so?

320+ million in the US give or take a few mil?

Someone have a clue why I have only heard of 2 real, non-NWO cyber experts that have exposed the NWO agenda that have had real, actual bonafide hardcore IT education like Master's degree equivalent or higher that knows exactly what the NWO is doing?

Did everyone involved in network engineering get a secret little gag order that told them if they open their mouth that their entire family will be killed followed by them?

I mean THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

WHY ISN'T THERE A BOB CHAPMAN, A WEBSTER TARPLEY, A DR. MICHAEL KOFFMAN FOR THE CYBER DOMAIN THAT PUSHES TO GET ON AS A GUEST FOR AJ'S SHOW, OR ANY SHOW FOR THAT MATTER?  WTF, AJ HAD A PROMINENT GUY FROM LINUX ON ALONG TIME AGO, BUT HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE REAL, HARDCORE NWO INTERNET TAKEOVER AGENDA FROM A PROFESSIONAL, ENGINEERING STANDPOINT TO DIVULGE THE REAL FACTS THAT WOULD PARALLEL THE LIKES OF Lordssyndicate's UNDERSTANDING.

IF YOU'RE IN THE IT INDUSTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, YOU BETTER SPEAK THE F*CK UP IMMEDIATELY AND TELL EVERYONE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WTF IS GOING ON BEFORE IT IS OVER.  THE SILENCE ON THIS IS DEAFENING, SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY BS ABOUT THIS TOPIC BLACKOUT IN THE INDUSTRY.

[Mike Philbin]

IT industry employees (like military employees) are held under strict contractual NDAs - any breech of which and it's career toast.

But, yeah, you're right - MORE OF THESE IT PROFESSIONALS SHOULD BE WHISTLEBLOWING, in theory. Those with a conscience.

And those without a conscience, surely, they can calculate the signs of their own impending redundancy in the face of Control Grid PLC!

[yrpplmean]

Unless someone wants to put their job on the line, I don't think you will get much needed information--UNLESS you pay for one, put them through the schooling, and have them on your own payroll lol



I looked up some of the conditions of the NDA on wiki and here is what I got.


Some common issues addressed in an NDA include:[4]

    * outlining the parties to the agreement;
    * the definition of what is confidential, i.e. the information to be held confidential. Modern NDAs will typically include a laundry-list of types of items which are covered, including unpublished patent applications, know-how, schema, financial information, verbal representations, customer lists, vendor lists, business practices/strategies, etc;
    * the exclusions from what must be kept confidential. Typically, the restrictions on the disclosure or use of the confidential data will be invalid if
          o the recipient had prior knowledge of the materials;
          o the recipient gained subsequent knowledge of the materials from another source;
          o the materials are generally available to the public; or
          o the materials are subject to a subpoena. In any case, a subpoena would more likely than not override a contract of any sort;
    * provisions restricting the transfer of data in violation of national security;
    * the term (in years) of the confidentiality, i.e. the time period of confidentiality;
    * the term (in years) the agreement is binding;
    * permission to obtain ex-parte injunctive relief;
    * the obligations of the recipient regarding the confidential information, typically including some version of obligations:
          o to use the information only for enumerated purposes;
          o to disclose it only to persons with a need to know the information for those purposes;
          o to use appropriate efforts (not less than reasonable efforts) to keep the information secure. Reasonable efforts is often defined as a standard of care relating to confidential information that is no less rigorous than that which the recipient uses to keep its own similar information secure; and
          o to ensure that anyone to whom the information is disclosed further abides by obligations restricting use, restricting disclosure, and ensuring security at least as protective as the agreement; and
    * types of permissible disclosure - such as those required by law or court order.

[TheHouseMan]

There are two possible reasons:

• What you're saying is absolute BS and you have a skewed understanding of the technical aspects of what you're talking about
• The industry is so compartmentalized that only the people at the very top know the full agenda

I would say definitely the second one is true, but I am not well-read enough to determine whether the first is also true.

[Anti_Illuminati]

There are two possible reasons:

• What you're saying is absolute BS and you have a skewed understanding of the technical aspects of what you're talking about
• The industry is so compartmentalized that only the people at the very top know the full agenda

I would say definitely the second one is true, but I am not well-read enough to determine whether the first is also true.

Don't bother reading anymore then and just accept the fact that I am absolutely bullshitting you.

[Mike Philbin]

I, for one, know of 'insiders' currently looking into refurbishing the 'business process modelling' aspect of this software, so this global control beast is REAL. Let's hope they NEVER give this insanity a HAL 9000 personality overhaul.

[Kilika]

Short answer, they want to keep their well-paying jobs. And yes, an NDA is common in technology, as well as non-compete clauses.

I do think though that most in the industry are clueless as to what's really going on. And I'd say a good percentage of them actually believe in advancing technology and all things digital. Building databases, and making the use thereof easier, is some of what they do. I don't think theres many who really believe the digital grid is something bad. Besides, techno geeks aren't exactly extroverts in general because most people don't have clue what they're talking about anyway, so they keep to themselves.

And it's a relatively small community and anyone that makes splash will stand out like a sore thumb.

[Dig]

Here is an organization that is a fertile environment for just such a person.  But no one there is on top of the risk management threats to national security.

http://www.eff.org/

[PTTurboe]

https://secure.cryptohippie.com/

[Satyagraha]

I mean THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

I don't understand it either. IT guys at work, over the past 2 years, have been migrating us all to a cloud-like system - no more local hard disks... your workstation dies, you get a remote setup to log into 'assigned' systems to use; all your data resides there. It's inefficient because they still haven't worked out the kinks when power outages occur, or when you just need a hard reboot because it's screwy. So it's a pain in the butt... but they say it saves money - no need to buy replacement systems for anyone. It's way more than a money issue - it's keeping all your info in a central location, easy to keep an eye on what you're doing. We're screwed anyway, working behind company firewalls, anything going out or coming in routes through HQ and you have no privacy. They can sit at their desks and watch what you're doing (literally bring up your desktop and watch), or even take control of your system - mouse movements etc- under the guise of 'remote support' if you have a problem.

Are these IT guys NWO? I doubt it - they're following orders. Follow the chain of command to the top and you start scratching the surface of NWO - the Senior VP reporting directly to the CEO etc. They've replaced the remote telecommuting software a few times; started with VPN, now we have "ExceedonDemand" - I suspect more secure version of VPN. Why don't they question this shit?  I have pointed out some of these issues to the guys in our office - the penny-wise-pound-foolish irony of the 'remote' login workstations, and get 'I dunno..." responses. I think HouseMan had a point when he suggested they're compartmentalized... they don't have the big picture; and perhaps light starts to dawn the higher you go up the chain of command. By the time they get the big picture - those at a level to see the real motivations (and these guys are IT managing across worldwide office locations - US, Isr, UK, Japan, S.Korea, China...etc)  - they're not talking.

Two years ago we started "Agile software development" - scoffed at by many in the 'real world' of deadlines and customers complaining about lack of sufficient testing/debugging before shipping; one of the primary sources of info for management was a consultant formerly of Jun*per networks.

AI - Your posts scare the sh*t out of me.

[kushfiend]

Really AI you could say the same thing for almost any industry.  NWO has gotten its rotten claws into everything, espicially education.  Why, just the other day at my University I had to sit thru a quick revisionist history about the 1900's in my History of Economic Thought class.  Did you know that Eugenics died with Hitler?  And that leading U.S. industrialists weren't actually behind the Eugenics movement?  That it all orginiated in Nazi Germany, not in England with the likes of Cecil Rhodes and such?

That's completely true according to my prof.  You see, what chance do average citizens have when every day they are bombarded with lies from all angles?

The IT industry does/is going to play a huge role in the global enslavement, but really, no larger than a number of other industries. 

People need to understand that labor is what is really valuable, not capital.  Your human labor is priceless, but rich giants of industry have fooled Americans into thinking that only material capital is worth any value

Sickens me to my core

[lavosslayer]

There are two possible reasons:

• What you're saying is absolute BS and you have a skewed understanding of the technical aspects of what you're talking about
• The industry is so compartmentalized that only the people at the very top know the full agenda

I would say definitely the second one is true, but I am not well-read enough to determine whether the first is also true.

WOW REALLY!? I MEAN....REALLY!? Of all the people on this board to say something like that about, even in speculation...I myself have read and seen the documentation that he posts and come to the same exact conclusions as he has...with all the things Indira Singh and John Zachman has said about enterprise architecture, with all the things that have been released about its capabilities (albeit indirectly) through infomercials like the UNISYS and IBM commercials...HOW IN THE HELL CAN IT NOT BE AS SERIOUS AS HE SAYS!? Jay Rockefeller pushing his cybersecurity bill like he is now, making all the claims he has that the internet never should have been created and wanting to give emergency shutdown/takeover power to the president, HOW CAN IT NOT BE AS SERIOUS AS A_I SAYS IT IS!? I would be more careful about throwing the accusation that someone is lying or misinformed about a topic that they and only they have poured years of their life into studying and that as you say, you have very little knowledge of...

[luckee1]

Let's see here.

What's the population of the Earth now, like 6.5 billion or so?

320+ million in the US give or take a few mil?

Someone have a clue why I have only heard of 2 real, non-NWO cyber experts that have exposed the NWO agenda that have had real, actual bonafide hardcore IT education like Master's degree equivalent or higher that knows exactly what the NWO is doing?

Did everyone involved in network engineering get a secret little gag order that told them if they open their mouth that their entire family will be killed followed by them?

I mean THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

WHY ISN'T THERE A BOB CHAPMAN, A WEBSTER TARPLEY, A DR. MICHAEL KOFFMAN FOR THE CYBER DOMAIN THAT PUSHES TO GET ON AS A GUEST FOR AJ'S SHOW, OR ANY SHOW FOR THAT MATTER?  WTF, AJ HAD A PROMINENT GUY FROM LINUX ON ALONG TIME AGO, BUT HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE REAL, HARDCORE NWO INTERNET TAKEOVER AGENDA FROM A PROFESSIONAL, ENGINEERING STANDPOINT TO DIVULGE THE REAL FACTS THAT WOULD PARALLEL THE LIKES OF Lordssyndicate's UNDERSTANDING.

IF YOU'RE IN THE IT INDUSTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, YOU BETTER SPEAK THE F*CK UP IMMEDIATELY AND TELL EVERYONE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WTF IS GOING ON BEFORE IT IS OVER.  THE SILENCE ON THIS IS DEAFENING, SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY BS ABOUT THIS TOPIC BLACKOUT IN THE INDUSTRY.

It looks like YOU and Lordsyndicate are it.  Once we get those IT people aware then the tidal wave of people will follow.  Right now they are propbably blissfully ignorant trying to work and make true 'the promise of the future'.

Spoks Dad, Prison Planet Forum member OKINAWA just posted info on how University is programmed and programming.

Guys I think TheHouseMan's first bullet is a ridiculous alternative, not to be taken seriously.  the 2nd bullet is supposed to be the obvious choice.  we do not have a sarcasm smiley here.

[Protean]

Let's see here.

What's the population of the Earth now, like 6.5 billion or so?

320+ million in the US give or take a few mil?

Someone have a clue why I have only heard of 2 real, non-NWO cyber experts that have exposed the NWO agenda that have had real, actual bonafide hardcore IT education like Master's degree equivalent or higher that knows exactly what the NWO is doing?

Did everyone involved in network engineering get a secret little gag order that told them if they open their mouth that their entire family will be killed followed by them?

I mean THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

WHY ISN'T THERE A BOB CHAPMAN, A WEBSTER TARPLEY, A DR. MICHAEL KOFFMAN FOR THE CYBER DOMAIN THAT PUSHES TO GET ON AS A GUEST FOR AJ'S SHOW, OR ANY SHOW FOR THAT MATTER?  WTF, AJ HAD A PROMINENT GUY FROM LINUX ON ALONG TIME AGO, BUT HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE REAL, HARDCORE NWO INTERNET TAKEOVER AGENDA FROM A PROFESSIONAL, ENGINEERING STANDPOINT TO DIVULGE THE REAL FACTS THAT WOULD PARALLEL THE LIKES OF Lordssyndicate's UNDERSTANDING.

IF YOU'RE IN THE IT INDUSTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, YOU BETTER SPEAK THE F*CK UP IMMEDIATELY AND TELL EVERYONE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WTF IS GOING ON BEFORE IT IS OVER.  THE SILENCE ON THIS IS DEAFENING, SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY BS ABOUT THIS TOPIC BLACKOUT IN THE INDUSTRY.

Would you give a bullet list of this: NWO INTERNET TAKEOVER AGENDA and what it entails?

I have only heard of the coming Internet II and ID log-ons for all internet access/communication.

Thanks.

[nustada]

Let's see here.

What's the population of the Earth now, like 6.5 billion or so?

320+ million in the US give or take a few mil?

Someone have a clue why I have only heard of 2 real, non-NWO cyber experts that have exposed the NWO agenda that have had real, actual bonafide hardcore IT education like Master's degree equivalent or higher that knows exactly what the NWO is doing?

Did everyone involved in network engineering get a secret little gag order that told them if they open their mouth that their entire family will be killed followed by them?

I mean THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

WHY ISN'T THERE A BOB CHAPMAN, A WEBSTER TARPLEY, A DR. MICHAEL KOFFMAN FOR THE CYBER DOMAIN THAT PUSHES TO GET ON AS A GUEST FOR AJ'S SHOW, OR ANY SHOW FOR THAT MATTER?  WTF, AJ HAD A PROMINENT GUY FROM LINUX ON ALONG TIME AGO, BUT HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE REAL, HARDCORE NWO INTERNET TAKEOVER AGENDA FROM A PROFESSIONAL, ENGINEERING STANDPOINT TO DIVULGE THE REAL FACTS THAT WOULD PARALLEL THE LIKES OF Lordssyndicate's UNDERSTANDING.

IF YOU'RE IN THE IT INDUSTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, YOU BETTER SPEAK THE F*CK UP IMMEDIATELY AND TELL EVERYONE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WTF IS GOING ON BEFORE IT IS OVER.  THE SILENCE ON THIS IS DEAFENING, SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY BS ABOUT THIS TOPIC BLACKOUT IN THE INDUSTRY.

The extent of most people who are in IT, are into running cables, setting up various "boxes", PCs, servers, routers, switches, and so on. And services such as VPNs and so on. No one except government stooges are allowed into the NSA rooms.

Compartmentalization is the name of the game.

[squarepusher]

Most IT people are less individualistic and free thinkers as you might assume. Most of it is just kissing ass to get higher up - and despite their 'techy' knowledge, like the Communists they can get sold on a particular propaganda campaign (like for instance this ' cloud computing thing') without understanding the fundamental scam behind it.

Basically, you can't expect technocrats to be concerned about this staff. The guys who manned the ovens and lethal chambers in Nazi Germany were not griping about all these dead people piling up - these people are concerned with efficiency, not morals.

[zeke105]

I work for one of the largest state universities in the country, and there has been a major push over the past few years for consolidation and centralization.

The IT industry as a whole started moving to centralized management of IT resources since around the mid 90's with Novell Netware first and Windows NT Server to follow. This design is based on data security, but it also saves costs. Centralized data management makes it easier to backup and retain data integrity.

This most recent push for data centralization was on a much larger scale. Instead of by department, the push was for university wide. This also saves costs, but at the expense of service.

Regarding privacy within the new system, the people at the very top have the capacity to look at any computer's main hard drive or server share without the user's permission.

This is only one man's perspective in his neck of the woods.

[nustada]

I work for one of the largest state universities in the country, and there has been a major push over the past few years for consolidation and centralization.

The IT industry as a whole started moving to centralized management of IT resources since around the mid 90's with Novell Netware first and Windows NT Server to follow. This design is based on data security, but it also saves costs. Centralized data management makes it easier to backup and retain data integrity.

This most recent push for data centralization was on a much larger scale. Instead of by department, the push was for university wide. This also saves costs, but at the expense of service.

Regarding privacy within the new system, the people at the very top have the capacity to look at any computer's main hard drive or server share without the user's permission.

This is only one man's perspective in his neck of the woods.

As far as I am concerned for schools and businesses, it is their property, and they have the right to look at how anyone chooses to use it. All organizations, will (or should) have the end users sign disclosure and terms of use agreements general use of the network.

That principle does not extend to telco companies equipment though, they should only serve as a "backbone" they should have absolutely no monitoring rights except general utilization statistics.

[Geolibertarian]

I think there are several causative factors at play.

In some cases they don't speak out because they've been "compartmentalized" for so long that they simply don't see the big picture.

In other cases it's because their upper-middle class incomes and lifestyles have deluded them into believing they're part of the "establishment."

In still others it's simply because they have a "wife, kids and mortgage," and are consequently more concerned with keeping their jobs than with being the nail that sticks out above the rest.

Ignorance, self-righteousness or fear -- it comes down to one of those three.

[DireWolf]

Scared, blackmailed, ignorant, bought, or promised that will never be delivered on.

[adissenter2]

the answer is a simple one,

either you worship God or you worship mammon... there is no fence riding this one

Mat 6:21       
-For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mat 6:22        
-The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
Mat 6:23         
-But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that
Mat 6:24    
-No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

[lord edward coke]

There are some..................but they seem to get themselves DEAD.  

Challenger of Obama birth certificate found dead...52 years old
Notice of the Death

Mark Yannone
http://yannone.blogspot.com/

Below is the second notice J.A.I.L. has received of the death of Arizona JAILer Mark Yannone this morning 7/20/09. He was an Internet Tech (IT), and served as a web expose activist. At receiving the first notice, I called his home and received his machine message, wherein I left my own message that a return call be made to me on details. His Website is still up and neither it nor his phone gives any further information in which I can share with you. His email address is/was MJYannone@aol.com.
Ron Branson VictoryUSA@jail4judges.org

Folks,
Mark Yannone whose blog I forwarded has been found dead in his home. A friend of mine from Tucson, Arizona who knew Mark called me and just informed me. He was only 52 years old. So sorry to hear this bad news. Mark was a patriot and pursued news to uncover truth to inform everyone of America's corrupt government.
Helen

A friend just called me and told me her friend, Mark Yannone, had been found dead this am. He had posted a publicly-broadcast interview from Phoenix talk radio station, KFYI, with attorney Alan Keyes' attorney Orly Taitz, about the BO Birth Certificate and the guy in the Army who was told he didn't have to obey orders from the Commander-in-Chief. Not everything is a conspiracy, but listen in for yourself before someone takes down the MP3. Click on it and listen. The music intro is a bit long, but eventually you'll get to the talk radio show. http://yannone.blogspot.com/

[Joe(WI)]

good issues, but this one is in the can day one.

I had a stressed chat with our acting Vice Chancellor(prior to me being expelled with 4.0) about filtering people out of school. Seems grades are a filter admittedly, but what gets you the grades? Some conformity, ability to MINDLESSLY regurgitate facts, and the inability to think outside the box. If you show independence, your grades seem to suffer, question authority, and your grant money dries up. I've had two conversations that ended with, "So sorry, I can't speak with you anymore", because I broke through their compartmentalization, scared them crapless. The geek types that don't get it are assigned the tasks, and those above channel the results into working projects.

If there was a person that fits your description, they were culled long ago.

[lavosslayer]

The thing that is so simple regarding the "omg thousands or tens of thousands would ahve had to have known" etc. is this:

WHO THE F*CK IS GOING TO TELL ON THEM?  THEY ARE THE NWO, THEY RUN THINGS, DUH!!!  THEY OWN THE GOVERNMENTS!!!  DUH!!!

People use this pysop "LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS".  THE NWO IS THE ENTIRE SEA BENEATH THE SHIP, AND YOU CANNOT SINK THE SEA.  The only people that can bring them down are those who are NOT part of the global mafia crime syndicate, and that's why they wanna shut down the Internet!

I think AI pretty much answered your question in his post quoted above

[yamata45]

Yes, most of the IT industry is wanting to move back towards a centralized control stucture, much like we had back in the 60's-70's.  In IT, the saying "It all comes back full circle" applies just as well as it does in other realms of thought.  Most early computing systems were just terminals, that connected to a centralized mainframe.  Back then, you would have processing time scheduled for you.  Either way, this centralized computing structure put the control of the system and the user's work in the hands of very few.  Fortunately, independent microcomputing blossomed out in the 80's and everyone had a computer on their desk.  But now, the more nefarious aspects of this are being seen, as once again the "Tech Press" and the major movers and shakers in the Tech Industry are all pushing for 'Cloud Computing', once again making our microcomputers just terminals that connect to the larger "mainframe" of the internet, or the clustered datacenters owned by IBM/Apple/Google, etc.

So it all comes back full circle.  The powers that be, obviously, dont like the freedoms represented by independent microcomputing, and want everyone back connecting to a very few computing resources, which TPTB can then control.  This is spilling over into mainstream, just look at the large talk show hosts, like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, etc, all HEAVILY advocating online backup services like Carbonite.com, where "It's ok, you dont have to worry about losing your files, just let them be copied into the cloud onto servers that you dont own or have control over".  Services like this allow mass snooping on everyone's files/data, in a resource efficient way, by serching several hundred servers instead of several million.

But I ramble on too much.....

[Clyde Barrow]

Let's see here.

What's the population of the Earth now, like 6.5 billion or so?

320+ million in the US give or take a few mil?

Someone have a clue why I have only heard of 2 real, non-NWO cyber experts that have exposed the NWO agenda that have had real, actual bonafide hardcore IT education like Master's degree equivalent or higher that knows exactly what the NWO is doing?

Did everyone involved in network engineering get a secret little gag order that told them if they open their mouth that their entire family will be killed followed by them?

I mean THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

WHY ISN'T THERE A BOB CHAPMAN, A WEBSTER TARPLEY, A DR. MICHAEL KOFFMAN FOR THE CYBER DOMAIN THAT PUSHES TO GET ON AS A GUEST FOR AJ'S SHOW, OR ANY SHOW FOR THAT MATTER?  WTF, AJ HAD A PROMINENT GUY FROM LINUX ON ALONG TIME AGO, BUT HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE REAL, HARDCORE NWO INTERNET TAKEOVER AGENDA FROM A PROFESSIONAL, ENGINEERING STANDPOINT TO DIVULGE THE REAL FACTS THAT WOULD PARALLEL THE LIKES OF Lordssyndicate's UNDERSTANDING.

IF YOU'RE IN THE IT INDUSTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, YOU BETTER SPEAK THE F*CK UP IMMEDIATELY AND TELL EVERYONE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WTF IS GOING ON BEFORE IT IS OVER.  THE SILENCE ON THIS IS DEAFENING, SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY BS ABOUT THIS TOPIC BLACKOUT IN THE INDUSTRY.

There's too much money involved with the IT industry. If you shake things up they will destroy you.
It's a very volatile industry with out shaking things up.

[URpwneddude]

the answer is a simple one,

either you worship God or you worship mammon... there is no fence riding this one

Mat 6:21       
-For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mat 6:22        
-The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
Mat 6:23         
-But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that
Mat 6:24    
-No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Right on dissenter, The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.  The selfish, lazy, looking out for themselves-types, do not love you more than their paycheck.  It is as simple as that.  The only thing that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.  These assholes are already expected to do nothing.

[Unintelligable Name]

Because they all saw Die Hard 4?

[UNOwen]

Chemicalrain posted this under the funny pictures. If you looked like this guy would you sell out your puppeteers when they are paying you so well and overlooking your drug/porn/prostitute addictions? Okay, jokes aside, not every IT pro looks like this but I think many are on some serious power trips. They want to feel important. I've worked in IT helpdesk and repairs and many of these people are out there on some crazy ego trips.

The NDA excuse is BS. I've signed them too and didn't give a flying flip about it and talked all day long about projects I was working on. Granted none of them were what I consider top secret or classified according to goverment standards but I found it insulting that the people I worked for would require this, not because of a trust issue but because they want to hide something from the public. It is quite easy to hide your identity and post information if you try hard enough but most are unwilling because they get off on being a "bearer of secrets." Everyone has a sense of morality, of right and wrong. The ones that don't act on it are either cowards or love the "technological black-ops" of what they are doing. In my experience with these people, most are self-centered, ego maniacs who want to think they are in some position of power and knowlege over most of the public around them. They relish the idea through squinty, arrogant eyes and snide expressions. I know you have seen them walking around acting like they know something you don't and you should get out of their way or they might just retlock pwn your butt on a DM of Halo 2. Granted this is not 100% the case, but just my experience with the industry.

The rest of the IT pros that don't fall into this category are more on the executive level and we all know what executives think.

[lord edward coke]

Corporations want to cripple the Internet too. Make websites registration and subscription based services.

When that happens, I'm done paying for teh 'Net.

There are other happenings as well such as:

SaaS: Software as a Service
IaaS: Infrastructure as a Service
PaaS: Platform as a Service

.... and many more.

The idea is to get people to pay monthly charges for those items above and others. The data would be on their network using grid and cloud computing.

This 'as a Service' business can take a flying leap.... unless I run (and own) my own network cloud and services of course

The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced in the Senate would allow the president to shut down private Internet networks. The legislation also calls for the government to have the authority to demand security data from private networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access.


The headlines were all about creating a national cyber-security czar reporting directly to the president, but the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced April 1 in the U.S. Senate would also give the president unprecedented authority over private-sector Internet services, applications and software.

According to the bill's language, the president would have broad authority to designate various private networks as a "critical infrastructure system or network" and, with no other review, "may declare a cyber-security emergency and order the limitation or shutdown of Internet traffic to and from" the designated the private-sector system or network.

The 51-page bill does not define what private sector networks would be considered critical to the nation's security, but the Center for Democracy and Technology fears it could include communications networks in addition to the more traditional security concerns over the financial and transportation networks and the electrical grid.



"I'd be very surprised if it doesn't include communications systems, which are certainly critical infrastructure," CDT General Counsel Greg Nojeim told eWEEK. "The president would decide not only what is critical infrastructure but also what is an emergency."

The bill would also impose mandates for designated private networks and systems, including standardized security software, testing, licensing and certification of cyber-security professionals.

"Requiring firms to get government approval for new software would hamper innovation and would have a negative effect on security," Nojeim said. "If everyone builds to the same standard and the bad guys know those standards it makes it easier for the bad guys."

The legislation also calls for a public-private clearinghouse for cyber-threats and vulnerability information under Department of Commerce authority. The Secretary of Commerce would have the authority to access "all relevant data concerning such networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access."

In another section of the bill, though, the president is required to report to Congress on the feasibility of an identity management and authentication program "with appropriate civil liberties and privacy protections."

Nojeim complained the bill is "not only vague but also broad. Its very broad language is intended to confer broad powers." Nojeim also speculated that the bill's vague language and authority may prove to be powerful incentive for the private sector to improve its cyber-security measures.

"The bill will encourage private-sector solutions to make the more troubling sections of the bill unnecessary," he said.

According to a number of media reports, the bill was crafted with the cooperation of the White House. The legislation aims to create a fully integrated, coordinated public-private partnership on cyber-security in addition to pushing for innovation and creativity in cyber-security solutions.

"We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs—from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records—the list goes on," Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), bill co-sponsor, said in a statement. "It's an understatement to say that cyber-security is one of the most important issues we face; the increasingly connected nature of our lives only amplifies our vulnerability to cyber-attacks and we must act now."

Fellow co-sponsor Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) added, "America's vulnerability to massive cyber-crime, global cyber-espionage and cyber-attacks has emerged as one of the most urgent national security problems facing our country today. Importantly, this legislation loosely parallels the recommendations in the CSIS [Center for Strategic and International Studies] blue-ribbon panel report to President Obama and has been embraced by a number of industry and government thought leaders."

The CDT's Nojeim stressed that are a "number of good things in the bill," including creation of a cyber-security czar, scholarships for cyber-security programs and collaborations between the government and the private sector. While urging Congress to change the bill, he argued that the "problematic provisions shouldn't crowd out the beneficial provisions of the bill."

[sociostudent]

Chemicalrain posted this under the funny pictures. If you looked like this guy would you sell out your puppeteers when they are paying you so well and overlooking your drug/porn/prostitute addictions? Okay, jokes aside, not every IT pro looks like this but I think many are on some serious power trips. They want to feel important. I've worked in IT helpdesk and repairs and many of these people are out there on some crazy ego trips.

The NDA excuse is BS. I've signed them too and didn't give a flying flip about it and talked all day long about projects I was working on. Granted none of them were what I consider top secret or classified according to goverment standards but I found it insulting that the people I worked for would require this, not because of a trust issue but because they want to hide something from the public. It is quite easy to hide your identity and post information if you try hard enough but most are unwilling because they get off on being a "bearer of secrets." Everyone has a sense of morality, of right and wrong. The ones that don't act on it are either cowards or love the "technological black-ops" of what they are doing. In my experience with these people, most are self-centered, ego maniacs who want to think they are in some position of power and knowlege over most of the public around them. They relish the idea through squinty, arrogant eyes and snide expressions. I know you have seen them walking around acting like they know something you don't and you should get out of their way or they might just retlock pwn your butt on a DM of Halo 2. Granted this is not 100% the case, but just my experience with the industry.

The rest of the IT pros that don't fall into this category are more on the executive level and we all know what executives think.

This is, unfortunately, 100% true.
I used to be married to an IT tech.
And yes, that's EXACTLY how they are.
 

[lord edward coke]

This is, unfortunately, 100% true.
I used to be married to an IT tech.
And yes, that's EXACTLY how they are.
 

Was he awake?  and howd you wake up?

[agentbluescreen]

Corporations want to cripple the Internet too. Make websites registration and subscription based services.

When that happens, I'm done paying for teh 'Net.

There are other happenings as well such as:

SaaS: Software as a Service
IaaS: Infrastructure as a Service
PaaS: Platform as a Service

.... and many more.

The idea is to get people to pay monthly charges for those items above and others. The data would be on their network using grid and cloud computing.

Yeah you can wear out your computer and hard drive running Seti@home for free LOL

But the C0₂ freaks had the best one: Breathing as a Service...

Personally I'm going to hold out until they come up with Johnny Walker as a Service.

[Freeski]

Amazing thread!

[TruRevolution]

IT boss says to programmer - write me this code for "projectA". IT boss takes code and adds it to "projectB". Programmer is none the wiser.

[truth=freedom]

I work in the IT industry but I really don't know anything but if I did I would. Check out my thread about a new technology IBM put out:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=159478.msg946095#msg946095

[agentbluescreen]

There are some..................but they seem to get themselves DEAD.  

Challenger of Obama birth certificate found dead...52 years old
Notice of the Death

Mark Yannone
http://yannone.blogspot.com/

Below is the second notice J.A.I.L. has received of the death of Arizona JAILer Mark Yannone this morning 7/20/09. He was an Internet Tech (IT), and served as a web expose activist. At receiving the first notice, I called his home and received his machine message, wherein I left my own message that a return call be made to me on details. His Website is still up and neither it nor his phone gives any further information in which I can share with you. His email address is/was MJYannone@aol.com.
Ron Branson VictoryUSA@jail4judges.org

Folks,
Mark Yannone whose blog I forwarded has been found dead in his home. A friend of mine from Tucson, Arizona who knew Mark called me and just informed me. He was only 52 years old. So sorry to hear this bad news. Mark was a patriot and pursued news to uncover truth to inform everyone of America's corrupt government.
Helen

A friend just called me and told me her friend, Mark Yannone, had been found dead this am. He had posted a publicly-broadcast interview from Phoenix talk radio station, KFYI, with attorney Alan Keyes' attorney Orly Taitz, about the BO Birth Certificate and the guy in the Army who was told he didn't have to obey orders from the Commander-in-Chief. Not everything is a conspiracy, but listen in for yourself before someone takes down the MP3. Click on it and listen. The music intro is a bit long, but eventually you'll get to the talk radio show. http://yannone.blogspot.com/

That Orly interview is quite disturbing

[Col3_11n12]

What exactly are the IT guys supposed to do?   I mean, if you're the CIO of Chic-Fil-A, what are you going to do--expose the diabolical secrets behind chicken?

[Gandalf]

I'll gladly be a guest on AJ and answer any question about computers anyone has ...

But -- as of right now the Internet we have is working perfectly, and nothing major is "going on". Nothing is being "taken over", unless you consider the Chinese style censorship that certain countries are starting.

[Col3_11n12]

I'll gladly be a guest on AJ and answer any question about computers anyone has ...

Great!   I've got a question.   

What's the big deal about Ruby on Rails?   Some people seem to swear by it.  Yet to me it seems like yet another computer language.  Like we really need another one.