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Rep. Frank: House will pass Ron Paul’s ‘audit the Fed’ bill this year
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/28/rep-frank-house-will-pass-ron-pauls-audit-the-fed-bill-this-year/
By Stephen C. Webster Published: August 28, 2009


Powerful House Financial Services Committee chairman says central bank’s lending powers to be ‘curtailed’

Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA), one of the most unabashed liberals in the U.S. House of Representatives, told a Massachusetts town hall recently that Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul’s bill to audit the Federal Reserve bank will clear his chamber by October.

Over half of the House members, most of them Republican, have signed on to the bill, H.R. 1207.

Though Frank disagrees — as many proponents of the bill contend — that the Fed is the cause of the U.S. dollar’s shrinking value, he told a Massachusetts audience that he’s been a proponent of greater transparency at the nation’s central bank for some time.

“Here’s what we plan to do: I want to restrict the powers of the Federal Reserve in a number of ways,” he said. “First of all, they will be the major losers of power if we’re successful, as I believe we will be, setting up that, uh, financial product protection committee.”

The committee Frank mentioned was proposed by President Barack Obama during the campaign, as a way of protecting consumers. It was formally presented to Congress in the President’s financial regulatory reform white papers in July, noted law firm Wiley Rein LLP.

“The Federal Reserve is now charged with protecting consumers,” continued Frank. “They were supposed to do sub-prime mortgage restricted … Congress in 1994 gave the Federal Reserve the power to adopt rules to ban bad sub-prime mortgages. … They have the power to ban credit card abuses. They have the power to do most of it. They, under Greenspan, did nothing.

“Under Bernanke, they started to do things, but only after Congress started, when I became chairman of the [House Financial Services Committee], we began to act on these things: Sub-prime mortgages, credit cards, overdraft … And after we started, the Fed did. So, that’s why one of the reasons why in the new consumer protection agency we will take away from the Federal Reserve the power to do consumer protection.”

Frank added that Congress will reverse an action by the Democratic Congress of 1932 that gives the Fed authority to lend money at will.

“Under section 13.3 of the Federal Reserve Act, they can lend money to whoever they want,” he said. “We are going to curtail that lending power. We are going to put some constraints on it.”

He concluded: “Finally, we are going to subject them to a complete audit. I’ve been working with Ron Paul, the main sponsor of that bill …” Several in the audience applauded. “He believes that we don’t want to have the audit appear as if it is influencing monetary policy because that would be inflationary … One of the things that will show you is what the Federal Reserve buys and sells. That will be made public, but not instantly. If it were instant, you would have a lot of people trading off that and it would have too much impact on the market. Again, Ron agrees with that. So, we will probably have that data released after a time period of several months — enough time so it won’t be market sensitive.”

Danger in transparency?

The pervasive argument against transparency at the nation’s central banking institution was repeated by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner during a recent dialog with popular social bookmarking Web site Digg.com.

Geithner said that he’s sure “people understand that you want to keep politics out of monetary policy,” adding that auditing the Fed is “a line that we do not want to cross” because of the possible danger to the U.S. economy.

The argument is strikingly similar to one posed by the Federal Reserve’s legal counsel in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by Bloomberg News in an attempt to force disclosure of the institutions that received billions in bailout money.

Loretta Preska, chief judge of the Manhattan U.S. District Court, ruled Monday that the Fed had “improperly withheld agency records” in response to the FOIA request, adding that the argument of danger to the economy was based merely on “conjecture” and not evidence.

“[The] risk of looking weak to competitors and shareholders is an inherent risk of market participation; information tending to increase that risk does not make the information privileged or confidential,” she wrote.

Opposition to Fed powers growing

Eliot Spitzer, the disgraced former Governor and Attorney General of New York — at one time known as the “sheriff” of Wall Street — has assaulted the bank bailouts as “America’s greatest theft and cover-up ever” and called the Federal Reserve bank a “Ponzi scheme” that must be held accountable for its actions.

Additionally, the House Domestic Policy Subcommittee plans to probe how the Troubled Asset Relief Program’s (TARP) funds were dispersed by the Fed. Expressing his frustration before the Government and Oversight Committee, Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) suggested that the Federal Reserve may be paying banks to hoard money and avoid making loans, instead of using the TARP funds to keep people in their homes.

To support his assertion, Kucinich cited a Bloomberg report which noted that “banks’ excess reserves at the Fed rose to a record $877.1 billion daily average in the two weeks ended May 20, from $2 billion a year earlier.

“Excess reserves — money available for lending that banks choose to leave with the Fed instead — averaged $743.9 billion in the first two weeks of this month,” the report continued.

“First, Congress was told that TARP was for the purchase of toxic assets, to help keep people in their homes,” the Congressman said. “Then the Bush Administration switched the program. Next, Congress was told that the TARP funds were instead needed to bail out the banks, in the form of a direct capital infusion, to keep credit markets alive.”

In a media advisory, Kucinich added: “If TARP isn’t about keeping people in their homes or providing credit to businesses, what is it for? I think the vast majority of Americans would be outraged to learn their tax dollars were facilitating hoarding at the Fed and increased profit making for banks.”

Kucinich’s Domestic Policy Subcommittee has also undertaken an investigation on the Fed’s bailout of the Bank of American-Merrill Lynch merger. “Specific documents subpoenaed include emails, notes of conversations and other documents,” his office noted.

“You look at the governing structure of the New York [Federal Reserve], it was run by the very banks that got the money,” said Eliot Spitzer told MSNBC’s Morning Meeting host Dylan Ratigan in late July. “This is a Ponzi scheme, an inside job. It is outrageous, it is time for Congress to say enough of this. And to give them more power now is crazy. The Fed needs to be examined carefully.”

Concluding his answer to the question of auditing the Federal Reserve, Rep. Frank told the Massachusetts audience: “The House will pass [H.R. 1207] probably in October.”

This video was uploaded to YouTube by user VegasBD on August 28, 2009.
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Re: Barney Frank: We will pass Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill This Year!
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2009, 05:11:29 PM »
This is highly suspicious to me........coming from someone like him.


Time to end the regional Fed and go to a global Fed? Let's hope not.


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Re: Barney Frank: We will pass Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill This Year!
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 05:58:06 PM »
This is highly suspicious to me........coming from someone like him.


Time to end the regional Fed and go to a global Fed? Let's hope not.


Whatever happens, we gotta stay on top of it.

here is the deal, a judge is demanding an immediate audit.

ron paul's audit takes time. I think they are now forced to play the game of the lesser of the two evils...HAH!

the cat is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of the bag. we already know that the IMF is 100x worse than the fed. sure they will pitch it and we will decline.

they are losing power for their psyops, people are waking up.

they are just going to leave. in the end they will walk away because they will see the wisdom in doing so. they will walk away because 10,000 psychopaths cannot control 305 million American citizens if those citizens refuse to cooperate. And this is our intention. Non-violent, non cooperation
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Re: Barney Frank: We will pass Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill This Year!
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2009, 06:08:07 PM »
When donkeys fly! That's hint that COG will be at the helms. He's just blowing hot air.
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Re: Barney Frank: We will pass Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill This Year!
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2009, 06:18:20 PM »
Non-participation I think would rattle their chain. Just take what's left of your cash and go home.
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Re: Barney Frank: We will pass Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill This Year!
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2009, 06:23:11 PM »
Frank: Bill Mandating "Complete Audit" Of The Fed Will Pass House In Fall
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/28/frank-bill-mandating-comp_n_271384.html
First Posted: 08-28-09 01:33 PM   |   Updated: 08-28-09 04:00 PM
By Ryan Grim

Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, told a Massachusetts audience at a recent town hall that the House will pass legislation this fall mandating a "complete audit" of the Federal Reserve.

The bill to audit the Fed, H.R. 1207, was introduced by libertarian Fed critic Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) and is backed by well over a majority of the House. Frank's comment suggests it won't just be left to languish in committee.

"I want to restrict the power of the Fed in a number of ways," said Frank in response to a question about the bill.

"They have had since 1932... the right to intervene in the economy almost whenever they" wanted to, Frank said, noting that the Fed relied on its extraordinary lending power to forward billions to financial institutions last fall. He intends to curtail that lending power, he said.

"Finally we will subject them to a complete audit," he said. "I have been working with Ron Paul, the main sponsor of that bill. He agrees that we don't want to have the audit appear as if it is influencing monetary policy, because that would be inflationary and Ron and I agree on that."

Defenders of an independent monetary policy, including much of the political elite of both parties, argue that politicizing monetary policy would destabilize the financial system, devalue the dollar and lead to higher interest rates.

"If monetary policy is seen as not being independent that could shake people's confidence in the dollar. I mean, we are dealing with a world of nervous people," Frank told HuffPost in June. A politicized monetary policy is assumed to be inflationary because politicians have an incentive to run-up deficits and then have inflation reduce the value of the debt -- a policy that would harm debt-holders such as China.

"One of the things the audit will show is what the Federal Reserve buys and sells, and that will be made public," Frank said. "But not instantly, because... you would have a lot of people trading off of that, and you would have too much impact on the market. Again Ron agrees with that, so we will probably have that data released after a time period of several months, enough time so it wouldn't be market-sensitive. That will be part of the overall Fed regulation that we are inducting."

The questioner followed up: "By the end of the year?"

"The House will pass it probably in October," said Frank.

The bill has steadily picked up co-sponsors since it was introduced, with rank-and-file Democrats and Republicans coming together in an unusual way. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), who has his own legislation pressing for Fed transparency, became the symbolic 118th cosponsor of Paul's bill.

House passage will put pressure on the Senate to act. The upper chamber has had a similar bipartisan coming-together, with Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, a socialist, and Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), as far from a socialist as imaginable, cosponsoring a version of Paul's bill.

Wall Street has been pushing back against opening up the Fed. A federal judge recently ordered it to disclose who the bank is lending to and what collateral it's getting in return. The Fed is appealing, arguing that such disclosure would damage it and the banks receiving the loans.

The Clearing House Association, a coalition of financial industry players, joined the Fed in protesting the decision.

"Experience in the banking industry has shown that when customers and market participants hear negative rumors about a bank, negative consequences inevitably flow," said Norman Nelson, vice president and general counsel for the group, according to Bloomberg. "Our members have accessed the discount window with the understanding that the Fed will not disclose information about their borrowing, especially their identity."

Clearing House members include: Bank of America, Bank of New York Mellon Corp., Citigroup, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo.

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Re: Barney Frank: We will pass Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill This Year!
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2009, 06:45:55 PM »
When donkeys fly! That's hint that COG will be at the helms. He's just blowing hot air.

All the donkeys and elephants are taking off their costumes and realizing we are all americans. you can say it ain't so and possibly be right in the short term or see that it is so and gaze out from the mountaintop. you will see the future from there, no matter how long it takes.

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Re: Barney Frank: We will pass Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill This Year!
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2009, 06:46:17 PM »
I have just one question:

When is Frank going to get on Pelosi's case about bringing 1207 to a floor vote?

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Arrrgh......did you see this?:

http://www.infowars.com/misinformation-alert-barney-frank-never-said-that-hr-1207-will-pass-in-october/

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Misinformation Alert: Barney Frank Never Said That HR 1207 Will Pass In October

RonPaul.com
August 28, 2009

Missing Sentence in Transcript Causes Premature HR 1207 Victory Celebration

Several blogs and forums reported during the past 24 hours that Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Barney Frank, said that Ron Paul’s bill to audit the Federal Reserve, HR 1207, will pass in October.

Incorrect Reports about Barney Frank’s Statement on HR 1207

Washington Times: Barney Frank says Ron Paul bill will pass
Politico: Barney: Fed audit bill will pass in October
Business Insider: Barney Frank: Yes, We Will Pass Ron Paul’s “Audit The Fed” Bill
United Liberty: Frank: Vote on HR 1207 in October
Daily Paul: Video: Barney Frank Says House Will Pass HR1207 in October
ZeroHedge: Barney Frank Says The House Will Pass HR 1207 In October
Mish: Barney Frank Says Ron Paul’s Audit The Fed Bill Will Pass In October
Washington Independent: Ron Paul’s ‘Audit the Fed’ Bill to Get October Vote?

The source of the rumor seems to be the following video.

 

A sloppy and incomplete transcript, which appears to have originated at the Washington Times, is making the rounds. The transcript is missing an essential sentence, which is marked in bold:

Barney Frank: “I have been pushing for more openness from the Fed. I want to restrict the powers of the Federal Reserve. First of all, the Fed will be the major losers of power if we are successful, as I believe we will be, setting up a financial product protection commission. The Federal Reserve is now charged with protecting consumers. They were supposed to do subprime mortgage restrictions.

Congress in 1994 gave the Fed powers to ban subprime mortgages. Alan Greenspan refused to do it. They had the power to ban credit card abuses. Under Greenspan they did nothing. Under Bernanke they started but only after Congress acted.That’s one of the reasons why in the new consumer protection agency, we will take away from the Federal reserve the power to go consumer protection.

Secondly, they have has since 1932 a right under Herbert Hoover to intervene in the economy whenever they could. Last September, the Federal Reserve they were going to advance $82 billion to AIG. I was kind of surprised and said, ‘Mr Bernanke do you have $82 billion?’ Mr. Bernanke replied, ‘I have $800 billion and under section 13.3 of the Federal Reserve Act they can lend anything they want.’

We are going to curtail that lending power. We are going to put some restrictions on it.

Finally we will subject them to a complete audit. I have been working with Ron Paul, who is the main sponsor of that bill. He agrees that we don’t want to have the audit appear as if it influences monetary policy as that would be inflationary.

One of the things the audit will show you is what the Federal Reserve buys itself. And that will be made public, but not instantly because if it was made instantly people would be trading off it, so the data would be released after a time period of several months, enough time so it will not be market sensitive. That will be part of the overall federal regulation that we are redacting. This will probably pass in October.”


With “This will probably pass in October”, Frank is referring not to HR 1207, but to his own financial regulation bill, which might or might not include some aspects of Ron Paul’s HR 1207. The preceding sentence, “That will be part of the overall federal regulation that we are redacting,” is for some reason missing from the widely distributed transcript, and has therefore been completely ignored by bloggers and commentators.

In recent weeks Ron Paul repeatedly warned against just this sort of thing happening: that HR 1207 might become part of a more comprehensive financial regulation bill and be watered down so that it appeases the angry masses without instituting any real changes. It would be an irony of history if that happened — if HR 1207 were watered down and integrated into an unconstitutional bill that Ron Paul would have to vote against.

What did Ron Paul really say?

It has become fashionable for the political elite to try to distort Ron Paul’s statements for political gain or even put entirely new words into his mouth. Just the other day, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said, “Even [Ron Paul] recognizes how important it is to us to have the Fed independent of politics.”

Now Barney Frank claims that “[Ron Paul] agrees that we don’t want to have the audit appear as if it influences monetary policy as that would be inflationary.”

Ron Paul never said that an audit of the Federal Reserve would be inflationary. In fact, he has credibly demonstrated the exact opposite: that the secretive Federal Reserve itself is responsible for inflation, with the dollar having lost 96% of its value since the Fed’s creation in 1913.

Here is what Ron Paul actually said about HR 1207, the bill to audit the Federal Reserve, and why only a real audit will protect the public’s interest.

 

Ron Paul: “Mr. Speaker, the big guns have lined up against HR 1207, the bill to audit the Federal Reserve. What is it that they are so concerned about? What information are they hiding from the American people? The screed is: transparency is okay except for those things they don’t want to be transparent.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, argues that HR 1207, the legislation to audit the Federal Reserve, would politicize monetary policy. He claims that monetary policy must remain independent, that is; secret. He ignores history because chairmen of the Federal Reserve in the past, especially when up for reappointment, do their best to accommodate the president with politically driven low interest rates and a bubble economy.

Former Federal Reserve Board Chairman Arthur Burns, when asked about all the inflation he brought about in 1971 before Nixon’s reelection, said that the Fed has to do what the president wants it to do, or it would lose its independence. That about tells you everything.

Not by accident Chairman Burns strongly supported Nixon’s program of wage and price controls the same year, but I guess that’s not political. Is not making secret deals with the likes of Goldman Sachs, international financial institutions, foreign governments and foreign central banks politicizing monetary policy?

Bernanke argues that the knowledge that their discussions and decisions will one day be scrutinized will compromise the freedom of the Open Market Committee to pursue sound policy. If it is sound and honest and serves no special interest, what’s the problem?

He claims that HR 1207 would give power to Congress to affect monetary policy. He dreamt this up to instill fear, an old statist trick to justify government power. HR 1207 does nothing of the sort. He suggested that the day after an FOMC meeting, Congress could send in the GAO to demand an audit of everything said and done. This is hardly the case. The FOMC function under HR 1207 would not change.

The detailed transcripts of the FOMC meetings are released every 5 years, so why would this be so different and what is it that they don’t want the American people to know? Is there something about the transcripts that need to be kept secret, or are the transcripts actually not verbatim?

Fed sycophants argue that an audit would destroy the financial markets’ faith in the Fed. They say this in the midst of the greatest financial crisis in history brought on by none other than the Federal Reserve. In fact, Chairman Bernanke stated on November 14th 2007, “A considerable amount of evidence indicates that Central Bank transparency increases the effectiveness of monetary policy and enhances economic and financial performance”.

They also argue that an audit would hurt the value of the U.S. dollar. In fact, the Fed, in less than a 100 years of its existence, has reduced the value of the 1914 dollar by 96%.

They claim HR 1207 would raise interest rates. How could it? The Fed sets interest rates and the bill doesn’t interfere with monetary policy. Congress would have no say in the matter and besides, Congress likes low interest rates.

It is argued that the Fed wouldn’t be free to raise interest rates if they thought it necessary. But Bernanke has already assured the Congress that rates are going to stay low for the foreseeable future. And again, this bill does nothing to allow Congress to interfere with interest rate setting.

Fed supporters claim that they want to protect the public’s interest with their secrecy. But the banks and Wall Streets are the opponents of HR 1207, and the people are for it. Just who best represents the public’s interest?

The real question is: why are Wall Street and the Fed so hysterically opposed to HR 1207? Just what information are they so anxious to keep secret? Only an audit of the Federal Reserve will answer these questions.”

75% Want A Real Audit

We need to keep up the pressure to make sure that HR 1207 itself is put up for vote. 75% of the American people want a real audit of the Federal Reserve, not a pretend investigation that goes to great pains not to ruffle any feathers, claiming that too close a look at what the Wizard is doing behind the curtain would be “inflationary” (Frank) and “problematic for the country” (Geithner).
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time to get 100 more cosponsors and have Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi as the only ones not cosigning.

Then demand answers as to why they have hijacked the country on behalf of international bankers and the COG as Catalina stated!
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So Barney Frank was misquoted?

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So Barney Frank was misquoted?

"With “This will probably pass in October”, Frank is referring not to HR 1207, but to his own financial regulation bill, which might or might not include some aspects of Ron Paul’s HR 1207. The preceding sentence, “That will be part of the overall federal regulation that we are redacting,” is for some reason missing from the widely distributed transcript, and has therefore been completely ignored by bloggers and commentators."
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I was beginning to think the ground was going to get cold under my feet as hell froze over......if it sounds to good to be true, well......you know  8)
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This is why we should always be objective and think for ourselves. With that I mean is for example, Russia and China are not (as far as we know) fully integrated in the NWO plan. I don't think they have  the best of intentions either, however you feel a certain friction going on. That's why this whole thing is a strategic game. The financial meltdown, depopulation etc. is being planned and it will come once those of the NWO feel that they have a certain advantage over Russia and China. That is why people have been saying for years a financial meltdown is coming, but nothing is coming, yet. They are waiting for the right moment. If something were to happen in the US, like a revolution or civil war, how will Russia and China react?
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