National Geographic White House funded 9/11 Hit Piece sure to wake more up!

[Dig]

Here is the most incredible conspiracy theory to ever exist...

19 guys in caves with Osama bin Laden mind control blew up 270 stories of buildings and hit the pentagon all in the same day defying the laws of NORAD and physics.


THAT IS A FAIRY STORY!

[InfoTruth]

Because it is important to see the categorization and profiling of people.

THEY ARE LYING, THEN THEY ARE SAYING ANYONE WHO STATES THE TRUTH HAS ISSUES.

This is the essence of tyranny, it is not only a cover up but a planned alienation and demonization of anyone who dares say the truth.

I MEAN THIS IS SOME SERIOUSLY F*CKED UP SHIT.

And that's how it's going to be. 9/11 truthers will always be looked at as crazy kooks. That's why i don't care about the sheeple anymore. They want to believe Osama is still out there then go ahead be my guest. It doesn't matter when you tell them that Bush said Osama isn't really a priority anymore. They just want to continue to believe in the government. f**k them

[Byrne0ut]

I like how they stayed completely away from the building 7 issue. 

[Dig]

And that's how it's going to be. 9/11 truthers will always be looked at as crazy kooks. That's why i don't care about the sheeple anymore. They want to believe Osama is still out there then go ahead be my guest. It doesn't matter when you tell them that Bush said Osama isn't really a priority anymore. They just want to continue to believe in the government. f**k them

WTF?

People who doubt the official story is over 70% of the country and probably over 85% of the world.  They are the kooks. That is why they are so desperate with this complete lie. Every statement they make about why conspiracies do not exist can be used against the official conspiracy theory.  I mean it is incredible..."The government want to believe one particular scenario. Even when confronted with evidence against this conspiracy theory, the government ignores it."

I mean the entire 2 hours can be rearanged where they are talking about the 19 guys in caves with OBL mind control.

That is 100x harder to defend it is ridiculous.  No wonder why they only do these hit pieces ever 3 years.

Here come millions more people with questions.

[Anti_Illuminati]

Because it is important to see the categorization and profiling of people.

THEY ARE LYING, THEN THEY ARE SAYING ANYONE WHO STATES THE TRUTH HAS ISSUES.

This is the essence of tyranny, it is not only a cover up but a planned alienation and demonization of anyone who dares say the truth.

I MEAN THIS IS SOME SERIOUSLY F*CKED UP SHIT.

of course.

The thing the NWO is afraid of is that once you get to see how 911 was executed, it leads you into their lair which they do not ever want you near.

The lair of realizing that their bs assymetric warfare doctrine, EBO, MOOTW, chaos theory, OODA loop, (sorry im more advanced that problem reaction solution basic shit).  They wanted to create the age of terror, neverending terror, executed at will to make you surrender and let them enslave you because you were told that that was the only way you would be kept safe, safe right up until you are thrown into a coffin.

If people can't get to realize WHY it was a black op, they can never get to have the mindset that they should be preemptively looking to stop other subsequent black ops from occuring--the true duty that they should be engaged in to defend the Republic.

[InfoTruth]

WTF?

People who doubt the official story is over 70% of the country and probably over 85% of the world.  They are the kooks. That is why they are so desperate with this complete lie. Every statement they make about why conspiracies do not exist can be used against the official conspiracy theory.  I mean it is incredible..."The government want to believe one particular scenario. Even when confronted with evidence against this conspiracy theory, the government ignores it."

I mean the entire 2 hours can be rearanged where they are talking about the 19 guys in caves with OBL mind control.

That is 100x harder to defend it is ridiculous.  No wonder why they only do these hit pieces ever 3 years.

Here come millions more people with questions.

I agree but i honestly still can't believe there are people out there who don't even want to question 9/11. You let them know about how the EPA lied about the air and they'll agree and say that was wrong but when it comes to the event that happened they'll just say you're full of shit.  9/11 will stop all wars and the police state.

[Dig]

anyone notice that they avoid as much as possible showing the exploding buildings?

[Dig]

The melting of the steel is amazing.  They heat the steel at over 2,000 degrees, but even the experts in the video say "well obviously it never got near the temperatures we were using, but we did show that you can melt steal."

WTF?

Yeah, we know you can melt steel, but you cannot melt it with kerosine!!!

OMFG, this video is totally 2+2=5.

[Cryptvill]

"well obviously it never got near the temperatures we were using, but we did show that you can melt steal."

LOL.

OMFG, this video is totally 2+2=5.

ROFL. Sane = Win

[Col3_11n12]

Don't you love how they did that controlled demolition of HALF the building and showed how it toppled over?   That was their logic for saying the WTC collapsing on its own footprint could not be a controlled demolition.

And I could believe they had the audacity to actually say that thermite could not cut through steel.  Are you kidding me??   The Allies used thermite to destroy equipment clear back in WWII!   Army Rangers at Normandy cut through German 155mm howitzers with just 2 pounds of thermite.

[agentbluescreen]

anyone notice that they avoid as much as possible showing the exploding buildings?

They just don't get it do they? When Goebels talked about repeating the Big Lie it was a novel new phenomenon that seemed to work in a regimented sadomasochistic culture of the times, But now since Orson Wells, Madison Ave and the Fall of the Berlin Wall have so amply demonstrated people just see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear, and most importantly they will believe in who and what they want to believe in.

A leap of judgement is much easier to take than is a leap of faith, and that is why they vainly and desperately continue to repeat their lies, because they are now the ones who are terrorized, by the truth they so transparently fail to conceal!

9/11 WTC2 HiFi Soundtrack: 23 Demolition Explosions - 1 Steel Crashing Klang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iya_s7J7K6Y

When steel falls it goes klang like a punch press not Boom like a canon. We should have heard 90-110 Klangs of steel floors falling onto one after another, not 23 X 4 floor high, tractor-trailer sized core column displacement (after cutting with silent incendiaries) RDX explosive Booms!

[N.E.P.]

How can you guys watch a hit piece? Watching something like that will just piss me off.

Exactly. I don't know how you all watch MSNBC also.

[TheCaliKid]

I don't have a T.V.

Is this going to make it on YouTube at some point?

[agentbluescreen]

Once you have traumatically forever scarred your audience with the most fearful crime imaginable, they eventually begin, quite rightly, to no longer fear anything anymore, but fear itself!

This is the fatal miscalculation made by the criminal MI6/CIA/Mossad Mafia with the foolhardiness of their elaborate and insanely well contrived Daniel Chapter 8 Show.

You can fool some of the people some of the time but...  especially, as time wears on, you eventually fool nobody, ever again!

[EarthAngel_2012]

i thin it is time for things to happend, for a change.. the elite know this.. that's why they are letting things out.. they need us to rebel and create a chaotic situation to bring their changes.. audit the feds..now it's a new currencey comming in this year.. one we audit the feds.. the public will see the corruption the feds been doing causing riot and a economic collapse and the solution would be to get out of this mess the fed created is to merge with canada and mexico to bring forth the amero..latey it's been alot of tv shows 911.. why would this cartel who own all the media allow such investions and unanswered question to be mainstream all of a sudden.. just when the audit the feds is taking place and the announcemt of the new currency the banks are getting within the next few months..idk but it seem very fishy to me

[Scootle]

Anyone have a torrent for this propaganda piece? ... I wanna see it

[Kilika]

That special was a complete joke, as expected. Especially the 150 lbs of thermite test, which was done completely different that how thermite would have been used, and concluded thermite could not have cut through the beams. Whatever.

And the rocket test for the Pentagon was down right laughable. They claimed to be using concrete "walls" they fired their little missle at, and their concrete was actually concrete board similar to "green board" used in bath enclosures, under tile. Any contractor or remodeler would notice that's what they used rather than solid concrete blocks. The fiber mesh was the give-away. And they admitted they scaled it down in size, but didn't scale back the speed of their rocket to match! That's not science at all, but a rigged test.

In some respects, that show was worse than the History Channel's hitpiece. At best, it was just as bad. I really didn't expect anything less.

[Tactics]

I watched it last night and I was totally disgusted.

[Dig]

That special was a complete joke, as expected. Especially the 150 lbs of thermite test, which was done completely different that how thermite would have been used, and concluded thermite could not have cut through the beams. Whatever.

And the rocket test for the Pentagon was down right laughable. They claimed to be using concrete "walls" they fired their little missle at, and their concrete was actually concrete board similar to "green board" used in bath enclosures, under tile. Any contractor or remodeler would notice that's what they used rather than solid concrete blocks. The fiber mesh was the give-away. And they admitted they scaled it down in size, but didn't scale back the speed of their rocket to match! That's not science at all, but a rigged test.

In some respects, that show was worse than the History Channel's hitpiece. At best, it was just as bad. I really didn't expect anything less.

I think they keep getting worse. They do not even talk about building 7, the hijackers, norad, wargames, kissinger, NRO planes in buildings exercises at the same time on the same day, murdered witnesses/activists, justification for 3 illegal wars, enron/worldcom documents, warnings from german intel/mossad/french intelligence/FBI/CIA, EPA being completely annexed, COG, Cheney stand-down orders, john o'neil, over 500 witnesses hearing bombs going off, actual controlled demolitions which look nothing like their failed controlled demolition.

And the conversations and arguments by the experts refuting conspiracy theories, the entire show was a conspiracy theory:

"Somehow over 70% of the American people have conspired together with wild accusations and because they have deep issues to refute the inarguable and iron clad official story of 9/11."

That is the biggest conspiracy theory ever, they really think that there is some inherent flaw in people's brains that has them conspire to go against the government's bullshit?  Maybe they are right it is called human expression, free will, and the rights of man. That is the true conspiracy that the New World Order is desperate to exterminate.

[NWOSCUM]

National Geographic also has a special about NORAD this Thursday at 5:00AM EST.  I'm sure they will tell how sophisticated they are blah blah blah.......which is prolly why they wouldn't talk about it in the hitpiece.

Also for those who missed it, including me, the hitpiece on 9/11 re-airs 9/5 at 9PM EST.

[birgit]

Anyone have a torrent for this propaganda piece? ... I wanna see it

Why torture yourself?
I  have no  tolerance left for  this kind of thing....

[davidnay]

I haven't watched this specific hit piece but I know they (the NWO and their minions) constantly make it real easy to see through the official BS version. Even if you don't understand all of the arguments on either side, just the fact that they REFUSE to address certain key issues makes them look guilty as hell. If you're on the side of truth there's no need to beat around the bush or avoid any issues. Even the sheeple will be able to pick up on this if they're able to hear out both sides.

[Scootle]

Why torture yourself?
I  have no  tolerance left for  this kind of thing....

Mainly because I'm one of the lead contributors of a blog devoted to debunking 911 debunking and im planning to make a documentary devoted to debunking 9/11 debunking.

[Samadhi]

Would it have been possible for the narrator to use the word "Truther" any more than she did?
Of course this is just basic rote memorization, solidifying the word Truther and all it's negative connotations, with any one who doesn't swallow the Official Conspiracy Theory.

It was also interesting the inflection the narrator used when pronouncing certain words, such as "jet fuel", she just spit it out in such a venomous tone.

All in all, it was rather interesting, I watch them not for information on 9/11, but for the  NLP and disinformation tactics they employ.       

[Kilika]

Would it have been possible for the narrator to use the word "Truther" any more than she did?
Of course this is just basic rote memorization, solidifying the word Truther and all it's negative connotations, with any one who doesn't swallow the Official Conspiracy Theory.

It was also interesting the inflection the narrator used when pronouncing certain words, such as "jet fuel", she just spit it out in such a venomous tone.

All in all, it was rather interesting, I watch them not for information on 9/11, but for the  NLP and disinformation tactics they employ.       

They think they are experts at persuation in the delivery of their media. The reality is that ultimately the facts get in the way of drama so they resort to known phycological tactics in the way they use sound, colors, shapes, etc. They actually are pretty creative at times, but if you know what your looking at, it becomes very obvious. The products have become irrelevant. Voice inflection, volume, image in relation to sound, etc. They try it all.

The segment they presented that it would have taken "thousands" of people to pull it off was amazing. A few quick comments from a couple people that it would have taken too many people to pull it off, and right to the next topic, offering no reasoning as to why they think it required "thousands" of people, to which I say they need to redo their math. An awful lot of people were involved and didn't even know it. They literally were just doing their jobs.

"Truthers", yeah I get the feeling they were doing that as a bit of a jab. I bet the producers thought it would be cute.

[Dig]

Would it have been possible for the narrator to use the word "Truther" any more than she did?
Of course this is just basic rote memorization, solidifying the word Truther and all it's negative connotations, with any one who doesn't swallow the Official Conspiracy Theory.

It was also interesting the inflection the narrator used when pronouncing certain words, such as "jet fuel", she just spit it out in such a venomous tone.

All in all, it was rather interesting, I watch them not for information on 9/11, but for the  NLP and disinformation tactics they employ.       

all of their nonsense should be exposed.  So when talking to someone, refer to people pushing the official conspiracy theory as "liars".

for example:

"the 'truthers' are curious why cheney gave the stand down order while the 'liars' think this is an issue not to be discussed."

[Samadhi]

for example:

"the 'truthers' are curious why cheney gave the stand down order while the 'liars' think this is an issue not to be discussed."

Agreed.
In addition to liars, calling them "the Manipulators", could also be quite effective, since a liar usually needs the cooperation of the person being lied to to accept the liar's lie, while the therm manipulation implies dominance and subversion, beyond the control of the individual being manipulated.

Being lied to is one thing, but nobody likes to be used.

Also, the term "Debunkers" denotes a sense of authority and strength, I would suggest the term the "Gullible" would be much more derogatory and realistic.

RE: NATGEO's hit-piece, it's so blatantly, Orwellian-double-speak, how they are attempting to turn the word Truth and/or the epithet Truther, into a Social pejorative.       

[Scootle]

I call the debunkers the 'thermite deniers' ... they like to call us deniers so im throwing it right back at them... they are denying thermite dispite a mountain of scientific evidence.

[kushfiend]

Good point with the Orwellian double speak.

What about the incredibly flawed logic they used throughout the entire documentry?

Thermite too weak to cut through steel, yet jet fuel melts through it like butter?

So a plane can demolish 110 stories but it took 2 months and hundreds of workers to halfway demolish that little 7 story building?

They refute themselves, we don't even have to do anything except sit back and laugh at these retards punching themselves in the face

Nat Geo and Discovery, not to mention all Main Stream Media stations are going to lose ANY SEMBLANCE OF CREDIBILITY THEY HAD LEFT LOL STUPID BASTARDS!!

NO ONE IS BUYING IT!

[SUPREMEMASTER]

OMFG, this video is totally 2+2=5.

ROFL. Sane = Win

Totally a moment of pwnage right there`

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[grapecrusher1]

I personally have a problem with the term "truther".  It carries with it an implied presumption that the truther is right(which is correct of course) creating more of a confrontational environment when truther meets non-truther (or ones who have not seen the light).  
 

[TheCaliKid]

Here is the most incredible conspiracy theory to ever exist...

19 guys in caves with Osama bin Laden mind control blew up 270 stories of buildings and hit the pentagon all in the same day defying the laws of NORAD and physics.


THAT IS A FAIRY STORY!

........and if a rouge pilot hadn't shot down Flight 93, they would have hit the White House, insuring that we all would have had National ID cards embedded with RFID chips tracking in real time, and our DNA samples in a national database.

[Scootle]

I know ... saying thermite can't demolish a building but fire can is like saying a tank can't knock down a wall but a little old lady in a wheelchair can ... they show u just how diffifult it is to completely demolish a building but they're telling us the least controlled thing can...

I'm gonna start a demolition company ... f**k explosives, f**k hydrolics, f**k thermite ... the tools of my trade will simply be a lighter and a copy of the NIST report... i wont have to pay hundreds of people wages, I wont have to purchase hundreds of pounds of explosives... i'll simply start a fire ... wait 6 hours and it will fall into its own footprint in seconds ... That means low, low prices!... I may even offer a two for one deal.

[Kilika]

and if a rouge pilot hadn't shot down Flight 93, they would have hit the White House

With all due respect, seeing we really like actual true facts here, your statement is not helping at all. Who says the pilot was rogue? And what proof do you have that plane was going to hit the White House? Your unknowingly perpetuating rumor and opinion as fact.

[TheCaliKid]

With all due respect, seeing we really like actual true facts here, your statement is not helping at all. Who says the pilot was rogue? And what proof do you have that plane was going to hit the White House? Your unknowingly perpetuating rumor and opinion as fact.

Uh.............haven't you read about the "official" story? It is well known that Flight 93 was "headed for the White House". Man, some of you guys have super short memories.


The idea of a "rouge pilot" is a theory, it can't be proven.....................but then again, nether can the "official story" of a few men, bum rushing the cockpit, and also talking to their wives on their cell phones while above the altitude of where cell phones supposedly work. But then again, what do I know? I haven't made a documentary and put it up on YouTube.



Many years ago, Alex talked about the "rouge pilot theory", I remember seeing a news story on the front page of Infowars.  Once again, short memories I guess.

[Kilika]

No, your not unde...never mind!

[TheCaliKid]

Such a revealing reply.........

I guess I have to do this on my own. For those with short memories.......please read:




White House target of Flight 93, officials say
    
May 23, 2002


The San Francisco, California-bound flight had turned toward Washington, and U.S. fighter jets were flying to intercept it, and possibly shoot it down, (Ho hum) when it crashed. All 44 people on board were killed.

U.S. officials said that Zubaydah's willingness to talk changes from time to time. They said he has told authorities information that has been corroborated and characterized it as "useful" about what the terrorist network may be planning. But they said not all of what Zubaydah says is believed to be true.

Had Flight 93 reached the White House, one official said, there "wouldn't have been much left, would there?" (riiiight)

Zubaydah, a Palestinian born in Saudi Arabia, was captured in March in Pakistan. He is considered to be one of Osama bin Laden's key lieutenants. (LOL)




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Remember, this is all part of the OFFICIAL story. I didn't make it up. There are countless other articles if you do a little digging.




Then we have the infamous press conference in which Donald Rumsfled says  "....shot down the plane over Pennsylvania"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0


Perhaps a rare moment of candor?






I rest my case.

[Kilika]

Look, you completely misunderstaood what I was saying. I wasn't disputing there are those who feel there was a rogue pilot. All I did was ask a rhetorical question, "Who says the pilot was rogue"?

You do know what a rogue is? Of course you do. I get the feeling you think I was disputing the existence of stories/reports, I wasn't at all, and in your smug arrogance you thought you would school me on the facts and remind me, not realizing you didn't even understand what I actually said.

Of course I know the "official story", and have read of many other versions as well, so what. That wasn't even my point. Don't be so quick on the draw. Actually try to comprehend what people write.

[TheCaliKid]

I'll take that with a grain..........er..........make that a large chuck of salt, seeing as you are a very well-known arguer on this forum.


Good day! I said good day! ( <----- think of Fez )

[Kilika]

Well-known arguer? Surely your not being derogatory are you? I contend for the faith, not argue. Arguing serves no one.

Fez? Watched the show maybe a couple times with the wife. Couldn't bare the stupidity of it. Though I did do a small extra part in a movie in 2007 here in Phoenix area with Topher Grace and Anna Farris; Young Americans. I drove my white Honda Accord in a couple scenes at the mall. Won't watch that show but I was in a movie that's just as stupid! Oh the irony. Admittedly that was before I came back to my sense and my faith. I was a touch off-track back then.