damning photo

[warren_pease]

If this photo is untouched, then Lucy, you have some splainin' to do...

http://www.bollyn.com/public/Pentagon_after_strike.jpg

[warren_pease]

[Berminator]

What's the mistery, cowboy?

[luckee1]

I see upright lightpoles all around and no parts of plane.  What time was this photo taken on that day?

I see no people about, just vehicles.  What is going on here?

[kushfiend]

I think this one is even more damning imo:

Notice the completely undamaged computer monitor...but wait I thought jet fuel caused 110 story steel skyscrapers to collapse into their own footprints? 

[DarkKnightNomeD]

there is no plane wreckage

i believe it to be a missle

[stella]

Has anyone ever done a to-scale comparison of that hole to the ones in the twin towers?  that might be interesting...

[Berminator]

Had this at hand, another damning one.

[luckee1]

I know for a fact that planes definitely went into the towers 1 and 2 in NY.  But it was nanothermite/mate that took them and wtc7 down.  But this photo of the pentagon and the subsequent one is really damning and says there is more to the story that a plane went in there.

[Protean]

On 911, April Gallop was in the area that was hit by the explosions in the Pentagon. She said when they brought her out to wait for the ambulance on the lawn (side where outside damage occurred) all she saw was green grass--no plane wreckage.

Excellent coverage on this topic here:

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/5422

"What Didn't Hit the Pentagon" with Dave von Kleist, April Gallop and Barbara Honegger. Dave von Kleist examines mainstream media coverage of the attack on the Pentagon; Pentagon survivor April Gallop describes her experiences on September 11th, 2001, her first day back at work as an administrative specialist with the U.S. Army at the Pentagon, after maternity leave; and Barbara Honegger, professional military affairs journalist, discusses her article, "The Pentagon Attack Papers".

[warren_pease]

In Spoks Dad's Photo, the question becomes:

How did titanium, heavy guage aluminum, heavy guage rubber tires and landing gear all evaporate and a plastic monitor survive

and the inside of the building should be scorched to boot.

Not even David Copperfield could do this trick!

[kushfiend]

In Spoks Dad's Photo, the question becomes:

How did titanium, heavy guage aluminum, heavy guage rubber tires and landing gear all evaporate and a plastic monitor survive

and the inside of the building should be scorched to boot.

Not even David Copperfield could do this trick!

exactly.  Even though WTC 7 is the smoking gun of 9/11, I think the Pentagon "attack" is even more of a smoking gun type of evidence.

It is obvious to any 6 year old that a missile, not a plane, blew thru 3 reinforced rings of the pentagon, w/o damaging computer parts that were within a few feet of the bunker buster missile.

So, if a missile, and not a plane, was used on the Pentagon, it means that the U.S. govt, and not Osama, was behind the 9/11 attacks.

SMOKING GUN EVIDENCE A 6 YEAR OLD COULD COMPREHEND

[Protean]

exactly.  Even though WTC 7 is the smoking gun of 9/11, I think the Pentagon "attack" is even more of a smoking gun type of evidence.

It is obvious to any 6 year old that a missile, not a plane, blew thru 3 reinforced rings of the pentagon, w/o damaging computer parts that were within a few feet of the bunker buster missile.

So, if a missile, and not a plane, was used on the Pentagon, it means that the U.S. govt, and not Osama, was behind the 9/11 attacks.

SMOKING GUN EVIDENCE A 6 YEAR OLD COULD COMPREHEND

The radio link I posted above has April Gallop saying she thinks there were explosives planted inside the Pentagon area where she was.
The computers had all that info about the missing trillions of $ Donald Rumsfeld was trying to explain. Conveniently, it was blown up.
 

[kushfiend]

The radio link I posted above has April Gallop saying she thinks there were explosives planted inside the Pentagon area where she was.
The computers had all that info about the missing trillions of $ Donald Rumsfeld was trying to explain. Conveniently, it was blown up.
 

Exactly my friend.

Not to mention that building 7 housed all of the SEC's files on Enron and Worldcom, billion dollar ponzi scams that went completely unpunished.

[Orgetorix]

On 911, April Gallop was in the area that was hit by the explosions in the Pentagon. She said when they brought her out to wait for the ambulance on the lawn (side where outside damage occurred) all she saw was green grass--no plane wreckage.

Excellent coverage on this topic here:

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/5422

"What Didn't Hit the Pentagon" with Dave von Kleist, April Gallop and Barbara Honegger. Dave von Kleist examines mainstream media coverage of the attack on the Pentagon; Pentagon survivor April Gallop describes her experiences on September 11th, 2001, her first day back at work as an administrative specialist with the U.S. Army at the Pentagon, after maternity leave; and Barbara Honegger, professional military affairs journalist, discusses her article, "The Pentagon Attack Papers".

That audio link appears to be dead.

Now I'm just waiting for jimd3100 to come here and start calling us all batshit crazy no-planers, for even questioning the official story that a plane hit the Pentagon. I get so tired of the fanatics on either side.

[jimd3100]

That audio link appears to be dead.

Now I'm just waiting for jimd3100 to come here and start calling us all batshit crazy no-planers, for even questioning the official story that a plane hit the Pentagon. I get so tired of the fanatics on either side.

I think the posts on this thread pretty much speak for themselves. Boy, do I feel silly. Maybe I should have looked into this thing as much as you folks criticizing me, then I'd know no plane hit but a missile instead, and everyone knows No plane does not = no Planer.    Yea, only a fanatic who can't face reality would still think a missile...woops I mean a plane hit the pentagon. I've wasted enough time on this thread already, enjoy your no plane party, good luck telling the masses of the invisible missile at the pentagon, you've got the perps on the run.

[Protean]

That audio link appears to be dead.

Now I'm just waiting for jimd3100 to come here and start calling us all batshit crazy no-planers, for even questioning the official story that a plane hit the Pentagon. I get so tired of the fanatics on either side.

KPFA Server in trouble again--

Here's another url to this file:
http://fv911truth.org/audio/Guns%20and%20Butter%20-%20April%20Gallop%20and%20Barbara%20Honneger%20-%20What%20Didn%27t%20Hit%20the%20Pentagon%2020080423.mp3

I don't think no-planers are bat shite crazy--peer pressure on this forum is debilitating for finding truth. You gotta look at ALL theories and consider ALL possibilities. The REAL truth is none of us know for sure what planes or no-planes were involved in 911--we only have theories--best not to get too attached any one theory in particular--keep looking, keep questioning--more light bulbs may go on, more people may come forward.

Listen to this MP3 of April Gallop--"She was there Charley" (too close for comfort you might say) AND, she saw no evidence of a plane crashing into the Pentagon.

[nillumnoom5000]

Notice the completely undamaged computer monitor...but wait I thought jet fuel caused 110 story steel skyscrapers to collapse into their own footprints? 

That is interesting, isn't it?

[Letsbereal]

Go trough it and find some fine Pentagon pics

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v393/youricarma/NineOneOne/?albumview=slideshow

[nillumnoom5000]

Go trough it and find some fine Pentagon pics

...and what exactly am I looking for?

[Spark of Truth Inc.]

hmmm...from the shape and size of the object, I'd guess it could be everything between a ripped off wing of a turboprop to a crashed reaper drone. In case that's a drone that fired missiles into the pentagon and crashes on a parachute down to be shipped elsewhere.

I don't know.

[nillumnoom5000]

hmmm...from the shape and size of the object, I'd guess it could be everything between a ripped off wing of a turboprop to a crashed reaper drone. In case that's a drone that fired missiles into the pentagon and crashes on a parachute down to be shipped elsewhere.

I don't know.

Hmmm? Interesting!

[pollenate439]

there is no plane wreckage

i believe it to be a missle

Tell ya what, I believe that a hijacked plane is what hit this building and 125 people were killed by terrorists that day!

[Nailer]

I think this one is even more damning imo:

Notice the completely undamaged computer monitor...but wait I thought jet fuel caused 110 story steel skyscrapers to collapse into their own footprints? 

yeah look on the desk , a cofee mug( right side of monitor) is setting upright , plastic or styrofoam should have melted from the  heat .

[pollenate439]

yeah look on the desk , a cofee mug( right side of monitor) is setting upright , plastic or styrofoam should have melted from the  heat .

Amazing!  I hope none of you guys plan on a career in Forensics!!!

It should have melted from the heat?  What else you got, Sherlock??

[Nailer]

Amazing!  I hope none of you guys plan on a career in Forensics!!!

It should have melted from the heat?  What else you got, Sherlock??

Well numbnutz I have common sense  and  when you have NO plane debris, seats, tires, luggage , bodies then there is something very wrong with the given story.   Jets have crashed into mountains  and there is debris scattered over a big area .

Let me guess you believe  everything the Government says is true.

[Kilgore Trout]

I think we've all seen the official surveillance footage of the pentagon "attack". I didn't see a plane there , I see only a flash of light, and something that looks like a missile.

see for yourselves , no plane here..

video of pentagon hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWZHKIg3Cs

[Mike Philbin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8
it's always amazed me how STRONG those wings are as they plough through SEVERAL uprooted light poles on the final AMAZINGly low altitude level'd off approach in front of the Pentagon.

Are you all dumb or blind? I can't seem to work out which it is...

The wings is where all the jet fuel is stored?
The wings flew through the light poles at 400MPH?
The wings weren't even slightly PUNCTURED along the way?

Me, I'm just surprised there weren't TWO TRAILS OF BURNING JETFUEL heading back from the Pentagon explosion through the collision-with-lightpoles path...

Maybe it's just me. I just don't see how a passenger jet can be so lucky to fly in absolutely FLAT at an altitude of about twenty meters, passing cars and not blowing anyone off the road or anything. And not a single engine scraping the Pentagon lawn. Something hit the Pentagon, a lot of people on that road concur. But a 757, in the manner of the official story? Hell, no...

[37]

Tell ya what, I believe that a hijacked plane is what hit this building and 125 people were killed by terrorists that day!

Tell ya what...if you want to refute the OP, then you should bring photographic evidence of your own.

Your hypothesis, while popular in the mainstream media, is completely unsupported.

Do you have a link, picture, document that proves that plane wreckage was recovered from the Pentagon?

[pollenate439]

Well numbnutz I have common sense 

Is that what they're calling it these days?

[Kilgore Trout]

pollenate439 I read all of your posts, you are suspect. In fact it's easy to see the baiting speech in all of your posts.

[pollenate439]

Tell ya what...if you want to refute the OP, then you should bring photographic evidence of your own.

Your hypothesis, while popular in the mainstream media, is completely unsupported.

Do you have a link, picture, document that proves that plane wreckage was recovered from the Pentagon?

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/parts.html

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/compressor.html

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/yardparts.html

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/yarddebris.html

For those of you who have VERY IGNORANTLY stated that there were no human remains at the Pentagon, take a look at these pictures:

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/humanremains.html

You might also want to READ (something I know most of you Truthers DON'T do) this article:

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

Anything else?

pollenate439

[Mike Philbin]

pollenate 439

what do you think of my non-sliced-through i.e. robust-wings-holding-tonnes-of-jet-fuel comment?

[Kilgore Trout]

Or this video ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWZHKIg3Cs

[pollenate439]

pollenate 439

what do you think of my non-sliced-through i.e. robust-wings-holding-tonnes-of-jet-fuel comment?

Mike,

What do you think of the previous photos I posted?

[pollenate439]

Or this video ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWZHKIg3Cs

WOW, that video really shows a lot!

[Kilgore Trout]

WOW, that video really shows a lot!

everything but a plane.

[pollenate439]

pollenate 439

what do you think of my non-sliced-through i.e. robust-wings-holding-tonnes-of-jet-fuel comment?

What am I supposed to think?

[pollenate439]

everything but a plane.

Although hundreds of people saw a plane...

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/PentWitnesses.xls

Anything else?

[Kilgore Trout]

Yeah , that link is what some sort of pdf? I don't download strange files , have you another format for this official information?

That video is the offical government release , why no plane visible?