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Offline spangler

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Government Permission Required To Travel?
« on: August 19, 2009, 03:49:03 PM »
"Secure Flight," Insecure Travel Rights
By Michael Ostrolenk, Robert E. Smith, Richard Sobel and Jan Towe
Published 08/18/09

Starting this year, Americans will have to get government approval to travel by air. As Privacy Journal revealed last fall, henceforth "Permission Now Needed to Travel Within U.S." Getting a reservation and checking-in for air travel will soon require Transportation Security Administration authorization. That permission is by no means assured: For example, if your name matches a "no-fly" list, even mistakenly, you can be denied the right to a reserve a seat on a flight. If your name is on a "selectee" list, you and your possessions will be searched more thoroughly before you can board. What is going on here?

Protecting air safety is essential, but professional screening at airports already provides for it. Giving the TSA as an official agency the additional authority to decide who gets to go where reaches beyond safety into overextended governmental power. This newly minted "Secure Flight" rule fundamentally imbalances long-standing citizens' rights both to travel and to be left alone. If your name appears among hundreds of thousands on "watchlists," you assert that the government should not require ID to fly, you don't want to reveal your date of birth for concern about identity theft, or you don't choose to declare your gender, you can stay home.

By combining the requirement for government photo IDs in order to fly with checking government watchlists including potentially every passenger, "Secure Flight" puts the federal government into the business of licensing travel. All travelers will need government OK in order to board a flight, or take a cruise. What the government can allow one day, it can forbid the next. All things considered, isn't this a higher-tech and later-day version of South African domestic passports or eastern European checkpoints? In fact, because of the high technological capacity of the U.S. version, aren't its implications for travel control of plane, train, bus and subway travel much more far reaching? It's incredible that something like this is happening relatively unrecognized in America.

While some people consider the requirement to show ID or reveal a birth date a small trade-off for security, what is at stake here is the right to travel. That fundamental freedom of movement appears in the Articles of Confederation in the right to freely enter and leave all the states of the then small union. It was so fundamentally a part of American citizenship that the privileges and immunities clauses of the Constitution included it without explicitly mentioning it again for the more perfect union. With a large and expansive nation now ranging from Hawaii and Alaska to Washington DC, that right to travel nationally, and petition the distant government, is even more fundamental. Yet some courts maintain that if you can walk, you don't need the right to fly. People have the right to walk around freely without carrying a national ID; why do they have to show one to travel? The Supreme Court has yet to rule on the scope of the right to travel but lower courts have tended to restrict it more narrowly than the Founding Fathers would approve.

Clearly, the air ID and "Secure Flight" rules mean you cannot travel any distance reachable only by air without official permission. Moreover, the system can easily be extended to Amtrak as a government railroad, which already requires government ID in order to purchase a ticket. It can further be extended to urban rapid-transit networks tied to travel cards, and private inter-city buses requiring IDs to buy tickets or board coaches. These are the bases for an internal passport system in the U.S.

There are a lot of practical issues here too. The assumption that any "no-fly" list includes all potential wrong doers is implausible, and first time criminals would by definition not appear until it's too late. Many people on these lists are there because their names are similar to those who are suspect for other reasons. There are perhaps a few hundred people whose past activities merit keeping them off the streets, let alone flights; the small group is better caught through search warrants and good police work before they come to the airport. To demand that 750 million annual passengers have to get government permissions to fly creates a needle in-a-haystack approach to locating a few potential wrongdoers (none so far have been caught by the matching). "Secure Flight" is simply an ineffective use of scarce resources that sweeps much too broadly over people's most basic rights to travel and be let alone.

What can you do? Like other regulations quickly promulgated at the end of an outgoing administration, these rules need to be delayed and reconstituted. Contact your Senators, Representatives and the White House to suspend such ill-considered regulations now. Insist that the government create a system that makes flying safe without granting federal officials the final say over permission for citizens to travel. Otherwise, the traveling public may be detoured onto a perilous downhill road to being permanently grounded.




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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 04:06:13 PM »
This is an absolute abomination!!   >:(
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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 04:10:03 PM »
This is already a Police State.  WTF!!
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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 04:13:35 PM »
This has made me REALLY angry!

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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 11:38:38 AM »
Thats not right we should be allowed to travel without the government getting in the way.
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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 01:21:48 PM »
I wonder how many people are actually going t comply with this.

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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2009, 01:27:18 PM »
Well--who is surprised? This is just one more Step in the Plan--best to be controlled by a RFID--Chip--bet that. 8)

One more Puzzlepiece in the Game of the occult--global Bilderberg Elite.

By the way---Hi from an Infowarrior from Germany

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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2009, 01:49:47 PM »
100~ years of drivers licensing and now it's time to get angry...  ::)

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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 01:54:25 PM »
I saw this coming.

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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2009, 02:34:42 PM »
      Papers? We Canadians need a passport to cross the boarder and that's to go spend money there.
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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2015, 05:04:26 AM »
This is an absolute abomination!!   >:(

Indeed, police state is getting closer and closer.
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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2015, 05:04:33 PM »
 Another win for the overlords.

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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 08:34:12 PM »
Since the original thread was started 2009, is there an update on this situation? I don't think that air travelers have to have this 'passport' to travel by air in the USA yet, do they??

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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2015, 03:55:41 AM »
greber, I think it's more like this now -

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Re: Government Permission Required To Travel?
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2015, 03:45:10 PM »
  No problem, get illegal status and come on in or head right out.    Not funny!
 A family member of mine, a US citizen took 3 months to get a visa.