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'We Need To Beat Taliban To Stop New 9/11'

Barack Obama has warned that the Taliban must be defeated in Afghanistan to avoid another September 11-style attack.
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The US President was addressing veterans in Phoenix, Arizona, in the run-up to the presidential elections in Afghanistan later this week.

He said that US troops were working hard to secure polling stations to enable Afghans to decide their own future.

And he asserted that while the fight against insurgents would not be quick nor easy - it was a war worth fighting.

His words came as the head of the British Army stated that UK troops could remain active in Afghanistan for another five years.

It also follows a period of increased bloodshed in the conflict, which has resulted in the number of allied casualties jumping over the last month.

Speaking at the Veterans of Foreign Wars' national convention, Mr Obama reiterated his view that a mixture of military power, diplomacy and development was needed to defeat the Taliban.

If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans.

He said: "As I said when I announced this strategy, there will be more difficult days ahead.

"The insurgency in Afghanistan didn't just happen overnight and we won't defeat it overnight.

"This will not be quick, this will not be easy."

But he added that Americans should not forget why US troops entered the country.

Mr Obama said: "This is not a war of choice, this is a war of necessity.

"Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again.

"If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans.

"So this is not only a war worth fighting. This is fundamental to the defence of our people."

Going forward, the president said that the US army would adapt its tactics to stay ahead of the enemy.

He also pledged that troops would be given the tools and equipment needed to succeed in Afghanistan.

Mr Obama spoke before Secretary of State Hillary Clinton commended the Afghan people for their courage ahead of the elections.

She said: "We look forward to working with whomever the Afghan people select as their leaders for the next five years.

"We trust that the next President, as well as provincial council members also being elected at this time, will work for the interests of all the people of Afghanistan."

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Barack-Obama-On-Afghanistan-President-Tells-Veterans-In-Pheonix-Arizona-War-Is-Necessity/Article/200908315363448?f=rss

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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 09:13:32 AM »
This bs is designed to program the masses and scare us in the know.
i know you know that anyways, it's 24/7

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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 09:14:24 AM »
War with Afghan militants a necessity: Obama

Brad Norington, Washington correspondent | August 19, 2009

Article from:  The Australian

BARACK Obama has defended the increased deployment of American troops in Afghanistan after mounting casualties, describing the conflict as a "war of necessity".

The US President yesterday invoked the memory of the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US to justify military involvement that could extend for a further decade.

"We must never forget," Mr Obama said. "This is not a war of choice. This is a war of necessity. Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again.

"If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al-Qa'ida would plot to kill Americans. So this is not only a war worth fighting. This is fundamental to the defence of our people."

Speaking at a convention of 5000 war veterans in Phoenix, Arizona, Mr Obama praised US troops for having succeeded in "every mission America has given them".

He is already on record as criticising the Iraq war as a "war of choice".

Just days before the Afghan people vote in elections, Mr Obama sidestepped mentioning the US government's view of Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai's support for laws that critics say would legalise rape within marriage.

Mr Obama did not raise US concerns with the return to Afghanistan of exiled warlord Abdul Rashid Dostum, who faces allegations of involvement in war crimes.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issued a statement yesterday stressing US impartiality in Afghanistan's presidential and provincial elections.

"We do not support or oppose any particular candidate," she said. "Like the Afghan people, we want to see credible, secure and inclusive elections that all will judge legitimate."

But Mrs Clinton is also reported to have expressed her opposition to a reversal of women's rights in her last personal meeting with Mr Karzai.

Mrs Clinton declared the US position publicly in a press conference afterwards, saying: "This is an area of absolute concern for the United States. My message is very clear. Women's rights are a central part of the foreign policy of the Obama administration."

At a media briefing yesterday, assistant secretary of state for public affairs Philip Crowley said the US opposed the return of General Dostum and any role he would have in the Afghanistan government.

Mr Crowley reaffirmed that Mr Obama had asked his national security team to gather further information on General Dostum's background, including "concerns that he might have been involved in the deaths of a significant number of Taliban prisoners of war".

General Dostum has pledged loyalty to Mr Karzai.

Mr Obama's comments yesterday recommitting the US to a drawn-out fight in Afghanistan come a week after the US military's top commander in the country, General Stanley McChrystal, was reported as saying the Taliban had gained the upper hand and that US casualties would remain high for many months. The US has already committed to more than doubling its troop involvement from 31,000 to 68,000 by the end of this year.

General McChrystal is conducting a review of the conflict as the Obama administration weighs up calls within the US military for a further increase of at least 10,000 troops.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25949171-25837,00.html

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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 09:15:07 AM »
Obama is no different from Bush. In fact, his foreign policy team is completely unchanged.

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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 09:17:05 AM »
Where to Begin Rebutting the Afghan Blather?

by Christopher Dowd, August 19, 2009

Everything that appears in our mainstream media about foreign policy is blather.

Everything we read about Afghanistan and Iraq and Iran floats upon a sea of false premises and lies of omission and commission.

Right now the American mainstream media is printing mountains of news stories and editorials and opinion pieces about the Afghanistan "elections." All of it is blather. All of it. This is an election where no political parties are allowed. This is an election for a government that does next to nothing but serve as a propaganda tool for an occupying army, an election where no one truly opposed to the U.S./NATO occupation is allowed to run. All the stories and opinion pieces on this election miss the plain, simple fact that this is an "election" being conducted under occupation and is seen by probably next to no one in Afghanistan, regardless of their politics or ideology, as legitimate.

In fact, this whole election production in Afghanistan is being staged more for Americans than Afghans. The election is meant to soothe a skeptical and impatient American public. Having lived with war and occupation propaganda of all types for 30 plus years, Afghans know better.

And it’s barely worth mentioning, as it is the sort of hypocrisy out of Washington that barely merits notice at this point, that the U.S., at one time, espoused the principle that elections held under foreign occupation were automatically illegitimate. But of course, elections held under American occupation are never illegitimate, because we are America and America is inherently good and selfless. The rules don’t apply to us, the exceptional and indispensable nation.

And Monday we got more of the same out of the president. Obama went before the VFW in Phoenix and did some rote, costless, and meaningless denunciation of Pentagon waste a month after approving a $636 billion "defense" budget. And then he told us why the Afghan war has to be fought:

"This is not a war of choice. This is a war of necessity. Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again. If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al-Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans. This is not only a war worth fighting. This is fundamental to the defense of our people.”

Other than possibly Ron Paul, there isn’t one person of renown in this country who would challenge that false justification for this meaningless war for war’s sake.

Don’t we have "those who attacked us 9/11" in some dark dungeons somewhere awaiting super-secret special military trials? Who are "those"? Well, "those who attacked us on 9/11" are "al-Qaeda," or just "Qaeda," which is becoming the fashionable appellation for that mysterious organization among our mainstream press stenographers now. And what is "al-Qaeda"?

"Qaeda" is quite simply anyone the U.S. military, intelligence community, or major D.C. politicians say it is. "Al-Qaeda" is a catch-all term applied to enemies of the current interests of our Beltway ruling elite. And when those interests change or shift? So does the definition of "al-Qaeda." If you doubt that is possible, just witness the shifting blame for Lockerbie as the needs of the Beltway have changed over the past decade. And note the sickening history of blame for the Halabja gas attack as Washington’s interests changed.

"Those who attacked us on 9/11" cannot and never will be defined. There is no end to it. There never will be. Anyone who picks up arms against the U.S. or its regional puppets will be called "al-Qaeda" or "Taliban."

Our "debate" on foreign policy is so far from reality that we just accept plainly preposterous statements like the Afghan war "is fundamental to the defense of our people" without comment. What can you even say to that? What do you say to people who mouth such things? Where do you begin?

Do you point out that the U.S. would not have been attacked on 9/11 if it were not for its self-serving entanglements in the Middle East and Central Asia for the past 60-plus years?

Do you point out that slaughtering hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people all but assures that this country will be attacked again by "terrorists"?

Do you point out that the attack on 9/11 was the result of a comedy of errors on the part of a "defense" and "intelligence" community that even then cost us half a trillion dollars a year?

Do you point out that terrorists don’t need a "safe haven" to plot attacks?

Do you point out that even a moderately cautious and alert immigration policy would have prevented 9/11?

I could go on…

But you know what? No one cares. Our Beltway elite barely even try to justify these elective wars with coherent rationales anymore. In fact, Obama could have gotten up on that stage yesterday and justified the Afghan war as the latest front in the war on drugs (which is now a sub-justification) and no one would have cared. Not one major politician would say boo about it. They don’t care enough anymore about our opinion on these wars to treat our intelligence with respect. They know that these wars are going to go on no matter what Americans think and no matter which vetted mannequin of the two-party fraud occupies the White House. No matter what imbecilic justifications they advance for these wars, the wars will continue until the last nickel can be made from them.

I’ve seen some commentary lately about how the Afghan war is not winnable. These columns miss the point. D.C. doesn’t care about "winning." It has no definition of winning quite on purpose. The war in Afghanistan is a war for war’s sake.

What the Imperial City on the Potomac wants is a long, low-burning conflict with tolerably low casualties and extremely high overhead. It will end only when Americans are pushed to the precipice of real economic hardship and their two-party system is in genuine jeopardy. Only then will the Empire declare victory and come home. And after a decade of holding a huge pity party for ourselves, in which we file into movie theaters to watch film after film showing how Americans were actually the victims of the weakling nations we destroyed on the other side of the globe, D.C. will plot the next round of wars against the next batch of "madmen" ruling over distant, impoverished countries that are absolutely no threat to us at all. My guess is that it will be the "Bantu threat" in 25 years. And, yeah, we will fall for even that.

http://original.antiwar.com/christopher-dowd/2009/08/18/where-to-begin-rebutting/

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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 10:23:38 AM »
Maybe Obama should read this article.

http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know/

Great article.

Apparently "they" still market these false ideas to the American public and the world because there are just enough sheeple to believe and accept.  

If the masses can't understand that this statement is a lie then we need to work even harder.

"Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 10:32:44 AM »
Mr Obama said. "This is not a war of choice. This is a war of necessity. Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."

Damn right yeah - enemy's within and all that jazz, my man. Apply the Global Banking Elite N.W.O. filter to this part of Mr O's speech and KNOW why these madmen have to be stopped.

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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2009, 10:33:02 AM »

If the masses can't understand that this statement is a lie then we need to work even harder.

"Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."

  BUT It is the truth the SAME FORCES behind the first one are  going to do it again... remember they tell us what they are going to do!!!!!!

Oh this is  sooooo sickening he sounds just like Bush 1, or 2........ barf.......
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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2009, 10:42:30 AM »

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BUT It is the truth the SAME FORCES behind the first one are  going to do it again... remember they tell us what they are going to do!!!!!!

True.  Same NWO forces are gearing up for more false flag events. 



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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2009, 10:58:47 AM »
True.  Same NWO forces are gearing up for more false flag events. 

Yep, Bush said the exact same thing, warning us that the NWO gang was going to do it again.

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Obama says arrest Osama but Afghanistan War Difficult to Win and Long Lasting http://tinyurl.com/n3sqb8

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=103831&sectionid=351020403


Obama arresting Osama must be the easy part ;D
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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2009, 12:48:16 PM »
Is that the same Taliban that the US is funding???


Reuters: USA is funding the Taliban

http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know/
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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2009, 01:06:23 PM »
Is that the same Taliban that the US is funding???


Reuters: USA is funding the Taliban

http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know/

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=126508.0

Additionally, what is the difference with funding agent provocateurs in Afghanistan to forward political objectives and there other creations of false flag terrorism:

THIS IS WHY ALL TERRORISTS ARE NOT FULLY PROSECUTED IN THIS COUNTRY OR ARE UNDER SEALED PROSECUTION!

THEY ARE ALL GOVERNMENT TRAINED

TIMOTHY MCVEIGH NAMED FBI AGENT LARRY POTTS AS THE 3RD CONSPIRATOR IN OK CITY BOMBING-THIS IS A FACT

LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS KILLED TO PROTECT HIS CONNECTIONS TO THE CIA-THIS IS A FACT

SIRHAN SIRHAN KNEW THE SECURITY GUARD THAT KILLED RFK AND WAS A KNOWN MK ULTRA PATIENT-THIS IS A FACT

ALL MUSLIM TERRORISTS IN THE US AND GITMO WILL NEVER HAVE AN OPEN TRIAL BECAUSE IT EXPOSES CIA INVOLVEMENT-THIS IS A FACT

LOUIS POSADA CARRILES WHO BLEW UP A PLANE KILLING ALL ONBOARD WAS FREED BY A JUDGE BECAUSE THE CIA SEALED ALL EVIDENCE TO PROTECT THEIR INVOLVEMENT-THIS IS A FACT

JAMES EARL RAY WHO WAS CHARGED WITH THE ASSASSINATION OF MLK JR WAS DENIED A FAIR TRIAL BECAUSE (1) THE KING FAMILY IS PUBLIC ABOUT HIS INNOCENCE AND (2) INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR SETTING UP HIS MULTIPLE IDENTITIES AND HIS ACTIVITY ON THAT INFAMOUS DAY-THIS IS A FACT

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What is the difference with those examples, US funding the Taliban, and this guy:

FBI trained NJ blogger to be an agent provocateur
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=127141.0


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What is the difference with that government operative, the operation to fund Taliban, and this one caught red handed trying to blow shit up!:

US False Flag Terrorist Caught in Philippines - Michael Meiring
the Michael Meiring mystery: an agent provocateur in the ...the Michael Meiring mystery: an agent provocateur in the philippines? by brian Thursday August 07, 2003 at 03:54 PM. by Carolyn Aguillas this story shows us ...
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2003/08/51985.php - 23k - Cached - Similar pages

FLASHBACK: CIA agent blows his own legs off faking terrorism in ...Michael Meiring, 65, of California, was rushed to Davao Medical Mission ... He spent millions of dollars while in the Philippines, the source of his funds ...
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_crime&Number=294060998&page=&view=&... - 44k - Cached - Similar pages

FLASHBACK: CIA agent blows his own legs off faking terrorism in ...Michael Meiring, 65, of California, was rushed to Davao Medical Mission Hospital ... is that Meiring was: whisked out of Davao, past the Philippine National ...
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=294060998&t=1 - 44k - Cached - Similar pages

TOP STORIES | Breaking Houston News, Weather, Sports, Traffic ...For more than two years, Philippine officials say they've wanted to arrest Michael Meiring. The problem? They couldn't find him, but then the 11 News ...
http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou041202_jt_defenders.184ee72.html - 89k - Cached - Similar pages

[imc-qc] US terrorist spy Michael Meiring found in Houston, TexasIn fact, Michael Meiring was gone, vanished and eventually removed from the Philippines- allegedly with the help of officials from the United States Embassy ...
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-qc/2005-February/0203-ug.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

National Bureau of InvestigationMichael Meiring, a suspected CIA operative connected to Philippine militant groups (see May 16, 2002), first comes to the Philippines and lives there for a ...
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity. jsp?entity=national_bureau_of_investigation - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

George W. Bush - Terrorist in the White HouseThe Philippine Star is reporting today that "the Department of Justice (DOJ) is asking the United States to locate its two nationals — Michael Meiring and ...
http://www.nogw.com/articles/meiring122004.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Meiring affair has never been reported in the U.S. pressHe first came to the Philippines in 1992, where he spent almost a year in Metro ... Michael Terrence Meiring is a Manila-controlled CIA-connected White ...
http://homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/iblog/C177199123/E1646433642/ - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

Stark Message of the Mutiny: Is the Philippine Government Bombing ...Though the soldiers' tactics were widely condemned in the Philippines, ... Michael Meiring, a US citizen, allegedly detonated explosives in his hotel room, ...
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0815-04.htm - 18k - Cached - Similar pages

ZNet |Asia | Stark Message Of The MutinyThe Philippines and Indonesia may have missed the cut for the axis of evil, ... Michael Meiring, a US citizen, allegedly detonated explosives in his hotel ...
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=4053 - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

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What is the difference with funding the Taliban and these agent provocateurs:


British Forces Conduct False-Flag Bombings in Iraq
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=1025.0


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What about these examples:


SPP Protesters Catch Cops As Agent Provocateurs! (VIDEO)
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=2433.0

COINTELPRO infiltrator says "Kill Michelle Malkin" Provocateurs EXPOSED!!!!!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=55661.0

Wiig wearing agent provocateurs infiltrate anti-racism UN meeting
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=100489.0

Agents provocateurs infiltrate SPP protest in Montebello...
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=2329.0

Exposed: "Hal Turner: FBI Agent Provocateur"
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=22904.0

Police provocateur infiltrates political and protest groups in Australia
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=70775.0

Ex-Italian President: Provocateur Riots Then “Beat The Shit Out Of Protesters”
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=67489.0

Cop Provocateurs Exposed After Cameraman Assault at DNC
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=56022.0

Provocateurs Call For Violence To Demonize Legitimate Protesters At DNC
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=55791.0

MUST WATCH VIDEO EXPOSING G20 CONTROLLED PROVOCATEURS!!!
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=96149.0

The Observer: Police used agents provocateurs at G20 protests
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=104886.0


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if the feds did not create criminals, they would have less power.

they know this and that is why it is done.

this was a core foundation of this country and is one of the main reasons for putting limitations on government power in the founding documents. that is why the constitution is no longer taught and why psychopaths like John Yoo are the few people allowed to teach it in PhD level courses.

here is an important phrase from one of those founding documents:

"[S ]he has excited [...] insurrections amongst us..."

[the rest goes into calling native americans savages, but the founders obviously knew this did not apply to all native americans because their ideas of civil liberties were incorporated into the constitution years later.]
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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2009, 01:17:15 PM »
This demonstrates that Obama is a Rockefeller foundation phony leftist just like Webster Tarpley said he was.

Al Qaeda my ass.

Obama needs to look at this new DVD of Steven Jones April 2009 presentation of the evidence of un reacted Nano Thermite chips in the World Trade Center dust from 9/11 -



I just got the DVD the other day, and I am copying it and giving them away. Jones, Harrit, Legge, et al have nailed it. Absolutely nailed it.

Get this DVD if you haven't already. Get it now!

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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2009, 01:30:36 PM »
"Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."

Obama would know, considering it was criminal elements within the very government which he now heads that engineered the 9/11 attacks.

    "And I want you to let them know that if there is any terrorism, we know who to blame. The point is: if any terrorism comes, it's from this government. And if there was an outside threat like a Bin Laden -- who was a known CIA asset in the 80s running the Mujahideen war, and whose family builds all the military bases over in Saudi Arabia right now, and sits on the board of Iridium Satellite -- he's the boogeyman they need, in this Orwellian phony system."

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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2009, 01:32:46 PM »
Obama would know, considering it was criminal elements within the very government which he now heads that engineered the 9/11 attacks.

    "And I want you to let them know that if there is any terrorism, we know who to blame. The point is: if any terrorism comes, it's from this government. And if there was an outside threat like a Bin Laden -- who was a known CIA asset in the 80s running the Mujahideen war, and whose family builds all the military bases over in Saudi Arabia right now, and sits on the board of Iridium Satellite -- he's the boogeyman they need, in this Orwellian phony system."

He's becoming quite the legend our Alex.

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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2009, 01:58:53 PM »
El Presidente Obama is here to save you from all the damage done by evil right wing dictator George W. Bush. Listen to every single word he utters and follow all instructions that emanate from his divine mouth. Remember, he is is to save America -

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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2009, 02:20:49 PM »
The Afghan pipe dream
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KH20Df01.html
By Pepe Escobar
South Asia     Aug 20, 2009

PARIS - America's convoluted, Alice-in-Wonderland interpretation of this summer's top political show - the "free expression of the people" in the Afghanistan election - reads like an opium dream. In fact, it is actually a pipe dream - as in Pipelineistan. With the added twist that no one's saying a word about the pipe that's delivering the opium dream.

As in an opium dream, delusion reigns. The chances of United States President Barack Obama actually elaborating what his AfPak strategy really is are as likely as having his super-envoy Richard Holbrooke share a pipe with explosive uber-guerrilla warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.

Obama says "success in Afghanistan" involves "diplomacy, development and good governance" - but all dazed and confused world public opinion sees are packs of extra marines being deployed to "fight the Taliban".

Former Waziristan jihad master Baitullah Mehsud, a "Pak", not an "Af" Taliban, may have been done in by a clever US Predator drone. But one Osama bin Laden - as in an opium dream - still ghostly roams across the Hindu Kush, eight years after the 9/11 fact. A vision or a waking dream, he may be playing Return of the Living Dead in "Pak", not "Af" - so why all these extra marines frantically canvassing Afghan lands?

Or should we believe Pakistan Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira, who said there "is no evidence that Osama bin Laden is present in Pakistan" and that "those making claims of his presence in the country should provide valid proof of it"?

Furthermore, the US notion that a motley crew of Pashtun peasants, angry young religious men, gangsters, highway robbers and anti-government rabble-rousers sprinkled around Pashtun country in Afghanistan would suddenly start welcoming shady al-Qaeda new breeders bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it is, well, no less than an opium dream.

As for the sham election, who cares who's the winner - Pashtun President Hamid Karzai, aka "the kebab seller", Tajik Abdullah Abdullah or anyone else? Afghanistan will be ruled by Barack Hussein Obama anyway. "The Taliban" - this ghostly, immaterial entity - may start getting less cash from their former Pakistani intelligence masters; but pious, Salafi Persian Gulf potentates will still make sure they more than balance their budget - unlike certain Western powers. They couldn't care less about super-envoy Holbrooke's recently announced campaign to freeze wire transfers to "the Taliban".

Unable to fire Karzai, Washington watches impotently as he drafts psycho killer Uzbek General Rashid Dostum to campaign for him - as if sporting Tajik commander Muhammad Fahim as his running mate was not enough. It's Do the Warlord Dance in Kabul - and the prize is buckets of drug money for everybody so funding for private militias remains as free as a full supply of opium to the world economy.

And in the end, the warlords will find a shortcut to get rid of Karzai anyway.

Just ask the perennial Hekmatyar - who is fighting not only Karzai but the US and coalition troops (as if he's reading too much recent Iraq history, he insists on a timetable for Western troop withdrawal). Incidentally, good ol' friend of Saudi Arabia Hekmatyar is not a "Taliban" - but a Pashtun nationalist.

As for installed-by-George W Bush Karzai, he may be an Americanized aristocrat from the minor Popolzai tribe who knows his Pashtunwali - the inflexible Pashtun tribal code; but he's also a no-holds-barred opportunist who studied in India, so he's betting on India to counter Pakistani influence over Afghanistan. He wants no "Pak" dominating "Af", while for Washington everything is now "AfPak". He knows that "the Taliban" control the day and virtually all the night in over half of Afghanistan. He knows he's got to do something to try to stop Westerners killing Pashtuns in droves. Yet another American puppet turns against his masters.

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And what to make of the McChrystal, Gates and Mullen show - worthy of the Marx Brothers? To amuse the galleries, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen did a two-on-one and faced down commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan General Stanley McChyrstal's inimitable Dr Strangelove impersonation by asking him to take it easy and submit his new Afghan report to Obama only after the Afghan election.

Iron Gates wants an orgy of new troops; super-envoy Holbrooke, for his part, wants a massive nation-building squad - he's building his own (doomed), counterinsurgency-heavy, Afghan shadow government. The bottom line is that, mired in the opium dream that all Afghans love the concept of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) occupying their country, the Pentagon wants a star-studded AfPak show running for decades.

McChrystal first said the Taliban are winning. Then he said they're not. Then he asked for - what else - more troops and more help on the civilian side. There will be 68,000 US troops in Afghanistan by the end of 2009. At the moment there are 96,500 US plus NATO troops on the ground – including 4,050 Germans, 485 Norwegians, 470 Bulgarians and 2,378 from "other nations".

The extrapolations into ridicule boggle the mind. The 4,050 members of the Bundeswehr fighting "Taliban" in northern Afghanistan near Kunduz now have to shout out a trilingual warning before getting down to the nitty gritty. First, in English, it's "United Nations - stop, or I will fire!" Then comes the Pashto remix - "Melgaero Mellatuna-Dreesch, ka ne se dasee kawum!" And then the Dari remix. Forget about the cool and crisp Achtung! Sounds more like a Monty Python sketch about the European Commission in Brussels. Even German top commander General Wolfgang Schneiderhahn is embarrassed.

While all this funky charade goes on, virtually nobody - apart from Canadian energy economist John Foster, in an op-ed published by The Star newspaper - is talking about the (real) Afghan pipe dream. Once again, since the late 1990s, it all comes back to TAPI - the Turkmenistan/Afghanistan/Pakistan/India gas pipeline, the key reason Afghanistan (as an energy transit corridor) is of any strategic importance to the US, apart from being deployed as an aircraft carrier stationed right at the borders of geopolitical competitors China and Russia. TAPI, financed by the Asian Development Bank, should in theory start to be built in 2010.

Both Russia and Iran, accomplished chess masters, are honing their moves to make TAPI unworkable. Until then, the AfPak theater basically boils down to the US and NATO at war against nationalist Pashtuns. Washington hysteria will continue to rule - as in "the Taliban" about to take over Islamabad's nukes and convert the US into TalibanUStan. And last but not least, please save the last bowl of opium for that oh-so-savvy wild bunch - the warlords.

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I just got the DVD the other day, and I am copying it and giving them away.

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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2009, 04:10:28 PM »
Obama's rhetoric is sounding more and more like Bush.

Oh gee Mr Obama, is Al-Qaeda going to attack me with the deadly swine flu??? Oohhhhh me scared.
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2009, 04:33:10 PM »
This is De'Ja Vu all over again.

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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2009, 04:42:24 PM »
I noticed that a couple days ago, it's amazing he does not feel like a moron saying Al-Queda did 9/11.

Obama Blaming 9/11 on Al-Queda Again
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Obama Warns not to challenge Official 9/11 Story
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David Ray Griffin - Mr. President the whole world knows 9/11 was a Lie.
FireFighter Erik Lawyer Slams NIST And The 9/11 "Investigation"
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9/11 FireFighters - THREE Explosions After Plane Hit WTC
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AFGHANISTAN: Karzai and Warlords Mount Massive Vote Fraud Scheme
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Analysis by Gareth Porter*

WASHINGTON, Aug 19 (IPS) - Afghanistan's presidential election has long been viewed by U.S. officials as a key to conferring legitimacy on the Afghan government, but Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his powerful warlord allies have planned to commit large-scale electoral fraud that could have the opposite effect.

Two U.S.-financed polls published during the past week showed support for Karzai falls well short of the 51 percent of the vote necessary to avoid a runoff election. A poll by Glevum Associates showed Karzai at 36 percent, and a survey by the International Republican Institute had him at 44 percent of the vote.

Those polls suggest that Karzai might have to pad his legitimate vote total by much as 40 percent to be certain of being elected in the first round.

But Karzai has been laying the groundwork for just such a contingency for many months. By all accounts, he has forged political alliances with leading Afghan warlords who control informal militias and tribal networks in the provinces to carry out a vote fraud scheme accounting for a very large proportion of the votes.

Karzai chose Muhammad Qasim Fahim, the ethnic Tajik warlord who had been vice-president and defence minister in his government until the 2004 elections, as his running mate. In return for their support, he promised Hazara warlords Haji Muhammad Moheqiq and Karim Khalili that new provinces would be carved out from largely Hazara districts in Ghazni and Wardak provinces, as reported by Richard Oppel of the New York Times.

The socio-political structure of Afghanistan remains so hierarchical that warlords can deliver very large blocs of votes to Karzai by telling their followers to vote for him, and in some provinces - especially in the Pashtun south - by forcing local tribal elders to cooperate in voter fraud schemes.

The system in which warlords pressure tribal elders to deliver the vote for Karzai was illustrated by a village elder in Herat province who said he had been threatened by a local commander with "very unpleasant consequences" if the residents of his village did not vote for Karzai, according to the Institute for War and Peace Reporting.

As early as last May, the country's independent election monitoring organisation, the Free and Fair Election Foundation of Afghanistan (FEFA), had documented a suite of voter registration practices that laid the groundwork for massive voter fraud.

FEFA observers, who observed voter registration in 194 of 400 voting registration centres in four provinces during one stage of the process, found that nearly 20 percent of the voters registered, on average, were under age – in many cases as young as 12 years old.

It is now estimated that 17 million voter registration cards have been issued, which means that nearly 3.5 million cards may have been issued to children.

FEFA observers also found rampant distribution of multiple voting cards. During the third phase of registration, they observed at least four incidents of such abuses in 85 percent of the centres. The voter registration staff was seen handing out cards even before applicants had been registered.

In one case, the FEFA observers saw about 500 voting cards being given to a single individual.

Another element in the Karzai scheme involves the registration of women without their actually being physically present, often on the basis of lists of names given to the registration officials. The list system for registering women was found in 99 percent of registration stations in Paktika province and 90 percent of those in Zabul and Khost provinces.

During the final phase of the registration, many centres were found to be allowing males to take the registration books home, where they supposedly obtained the fingerprints of the women.

In some of the most insecure and traditional provinces, such as Logar and in Nuristan, more than twice as many cards were issued to women as to men in 2009, and in Paktika, Paktia and Khost, 30 percent more women were registered than were men.

In Kandahar women represent 44 percent of those with voting cards. The young female MP Fawzia Koofi told The Australian that such levels of women registered could not be genuine.

The result has been to create a vast pool of voting cards, very few of which will be used by women to vote.

Reports by journalists about the acquisition of voting cards by the local strongmen indicate that this distribution of voting cards to people who would not vote was part of a plan to stuff the ballot boxes to increase the vote for Karzai.

The Times of London quoted a tribal elder in Marja district of Helmand province last week as saying that the warlord and former governor Sher Mohammad Akhudzada was organising the vote for Karzai in the province, and that he and other tribal elders were responsible for buying voting cards from voters who had registered.

Independent analyst Alex Strick van Linschoten, who is based in Kandahar, has reported schemes using police to purchase voter registration cards in several districts in the province.

Writing in the New York Times magazine Aug. 9, Elizabeth Rubin reported that an unnamed political figure in Kandahar told her in June he had manufactured 8,000 voter "fake" registration cards that had sold for 20 dollars each.

Some observers believe that various factors may constrain Karzai's effort to use warlords to swing the election. Former U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan Ronald E. Neumann told IPS he is counting on the use of indelible ink on the voters' fingers to make it impossible for people to vote more than once.

He recalls, however, that the "indelible" ink used in the 2005 election turned out to be washable after all.

Neumann also hopes the existence of the Election Complaints Commission, an independent body with three international members nominated by the United Nations, will be a check on massive vote fraud.

That body investigates complaints of voter fraud and has the right under Afghan election law to order the invalidation or recounting of votes or even the conducting of new polling where it finds evidence of fraud. But it has no sub-national presence and will be heavily dependent on the Independent Electoral Commission (IEC), which handles all the documentary evidence pertaining to such complaints.

More problematic is the fact that the IEC is not "independent" of the Karzai regime at all. Its seven members were all appointed by Karzai, and its chairman has made no secret of his partisan support for the president.

The IEC will likely seek to cover up complaints of major fraud, and the complaints body may not be able to do much about it.

Neumann put the odds of an election that would be "good enough" in the eyes of the Afghans at "50-50".

But counterinsurgency specialists are more pessimistic. Larry Goodson of the U.S. Army College, who was on the U.S. Central Command team that worked on a detailed plan for Afghanistan and Pakistan earlier this year, told IPS, "The reality is there is going to be a lot of cheating and fraud."

Goodson said the danger for the United States in the Karzai election plan is that it "could be perceived by Afghans as promoting the legitimisation of someone who is widely perceived as illegitimate."

Australian counterinsurgency specialist David Kilcullen, who will shortly become a senior adviser to Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, declared at the U.S. Institute of Peace Aug. 6, "The biggest fear is Karzai ends up as an incredibly illegitimate figure, and we end up owning Afghanistan and propping up an illegitimate government."

*Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, "Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam", was published in 2006.

(END/2009)
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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2009, 05:19:43 PM »
The New York Times just plublished an article stating that US Defense money is being spent in support of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

So in reality, President Obama is saying the US government is planning on deploying a September 11th style attack on it's own people.

Critical hardcore double-speak your mind fools.   

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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2009, 05:52:32 PM »
The Big Wedding: 9/11, the Whistle-Blowers and the Cover-Up
Review of Sander Hicks' explosive new book
By Russ Wellen
Published: Tuesday October 11th, 2005

The term “conspiracy theory,” with the image it invokes of a cabal of black-hearted men who convene on a regular basis to consolidate their power, reduces alternate history to a cartoon. By using it to discredit, however, journalists only reveal how inadequate their inability to untangle webs the powerful weave makes them feel.

One who’s undaunted by the degree of difficulty is Sander Hicks, who endeavors to shed new light on events leading up to 9/11 mostly through meetings with, if not remarkable men, remarkable maniacs. In fact, his book, The Big Wedding, named after Al Qaeda code for 9/11, could just as easily be called “My Adventures Covering the Terror Beat.”

The first portrait in his rogues’ gallery is Randy Glass, an informant for an ATF/FBI terrorist sting. Pre-9/11, he dined out in Manhattan with a Pakistani arms dealer, who, gesturing toward the World Trade Center, exclaimed, “Those towers are coming down.”

A State Department official told Glass they were aware of bin Laden’s plans. But to keep Pakistani President Musharraf and his nuclear arsenal in their corner, they were banking on his guarantee that he could stop the attack. After all, as Hicks maintains, where Al Qaeda ends, Pakistan’s ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) begins.

Then Hicks introduces us to the legendary Delmart Vreeland. While imprisoned in Canada in 2001, this near-schizoid former agent for the Office of Naval Intelligence prophesized 9/11, of which he allegedly learned while on a mission to Moscow. To some, Hicks’s encounter with the dodgy Vreeland might undermine the credibility he’s working hard to establish. But credit is due him for daring to assert that intelligence work attracts the erratic. Discounting their testimony only plays into intelligence agency’s hands.

Hicks ranges beyond the rogues’ gallery to the psycho ward, where, by all rights, Mohammed Atta should have been, instead of hanging out in Florida. Journalist Daniel Hopsicker followed Atta’s trail for his book, Welcome to Terrorland, and Hicks follow in his footsteps.

Atta, however, got more than he bargained for when he tried on a spirited American girl for size. Amanda Keller denigrated the size of his penis, thus prompting Internet speculation on whether or not that was the tipping point of all tipping points, driving Atta to his apocalyptic aerobatics.

Having dealt with rogues and psychos, Hicks moves up in class—or maybe just parallel—to government officials. After 9/11, Congress established the September 11 Victim Compensation Fund and appointed Kenneth Feinberg its special master. One of the few who opted out of the fund was 9/11 widow Ellen Mariani, who, instead, sued the entire administration.

For a story on her, Hicks conducted an interview with Feinberg that turned ugly. Perhaps, he thinks, there might be some truth to Mariani’s claim that Feinberg’s role was “to ensure all 9/11 families joined the fund to prevent any questions of….negligence on the part of [the] administration.”

His appetite for big game whetted, Hicks also goes after Richard Ben-Veniste, chairman of the 9/11 Commission. In a flagrant example of what-was-he-thinking, Ben-Veniste agreed to be interviewed by Hicks on INN World Report on Free Speech TV. Ultimately, he wound up dismissing Hicks as a “whackjob.”

After then taking on Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff, he dissects the 9/11 Commission report. First he skewers each member of the panel, and then he details how the Commission either gave short shrift to 9/11’s central questions or outright lied. For instance, the mujahadeens in Afghanistan “received little or no assistance from the United States.”

Regarding one of the central questions of 9/11—how the terrorists knew to strike on the morning that NORAD, NEADS, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff were preoccupied with three different air defense drills—the Commission mentions only one of these exercises as an afterthought. “The 9/11 Commission Report,” Hicks concludes, “has topped the Warren Report…as the greatest cover-up of all time.”

As The Big Wedding nears its conclusion, Hicks shares his feelings about the 9/11 Truth Movement. Its tendency to become bogged down on issues like what struck the Pentagon, he posits, explains how “the term ‘conspiracy theories’ came to be shorthand for ‘discredited whacko’ in the invisible guidebook of mainstream media.”

Meanwhile, he maintains, the idea that “terrorists with box cutters were able to defeat a $400 billion-a-year war machine” is as “kooky” a theory as any. Ending on a hopeful note, however, he calls for a whistle-blowers’ conference.

In The Big Wedding, Sander Hicks has not only told some rollicking tales, but gone a long way to sorting out 9/11 alternate history. If more clear-eyed reporters like him pitched in, independent investigations into 9/11 would no longer be tarred with the conspiracy theory brush.

Russ Wellen is an editor at Freezerbox.com.

Sander Hicks, an investigative journalist and independent publisher who started Soft Skull Press and Vox Pop/DKMC, has done reporting on 9/11 for the Long Island Press, INN World Report Television and Guerrilla News Network. On the website of his coffeehouse/bookstore/media company (a venture shared with his wife, Holley Anderson), a bio says he is “the only reporter who can proudly claim he was verbally abused by a member of the 9/11 Commission.”

The Big Wedding: 9/11, the Whistle-Blowers and the Cover-Up
by Sander Hicks
Foreward by GNN’s Anthony Lappé
Vox Pop, 2005
180 pages, $14.00
ISBN: 09752763
Includes Index, Over 100 Footnotes, and Bibliography
http://gnn.tv/articles/1753/The_Big_Wedding_9_11_the_Whistle_Blowers_and_the_Cover_Up
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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2009, 08:22:24 PM »
a statement like that tells us more about Obama than it does about the Taliban.
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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2009, 08:52:13 PM »

Any Vets on this site? I doubt you were at that grand ol meeting.

I met but a few guys out of hundreds in Nam that beleived in what we were doing. We were the whores of war. A money making machine, all kinds of us, black, white, red, all creeds and religions, for what, a lie, a deception, and power and money for the profiteers.

Bombing, remember, crispy critters, men, woman and children, grid bombing day and night, come on, the powers are running us again.
3 Million dead in Nam, mostly civilians, people-innocents. And our guys, 65,000 dead, not counting the maimed and crippled, for what-the power , the profiteers.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

It galls me to see Vets of this era cheer a cowardly peice of shiiite, send him and Bush,Powell, Hillary, Billy, and the whole gang to lead the troops on the front lines in Afghanistan, see if they go leading troopers with their M16 in hand.

These poor guys in Iraq are having tours extended, come on folks. 2-3 years of the valley of death. 1,360,000 dead Iraqis and we still haven't found the WMD's. FK lies from on top, the same as before.

Our MR>OBAMA sold out to the plan for the sake of power, money, fame, and ego. He sits at the table of power, that is what he desired, and he has the sociopathic con to get it.

Vets. we fought for our comrades in arms, to stay alive, to protect our own. 65,000 of our brothers died in that one, a hundred thousand lost limbs and were shot up, more than a hundred thousand commited suicide. Those who gave the final sacrifice are heroes, those who were maimed, and those who kept their mates alive. But face it guys we were used just as the present day troopers are.

We took an oath, to defend this nation against both foriegn and domestic enemies, did we forget the domestic end of the oath.

Obama is a schooled and tutored CON MAN, a sociopath who beleives he is more clever in every way than the average man. His goal was to get the throne, and he did, he also joned the crew on top, the power, He revels in his glory and convinces the brindead he  cares about them, when in truth he would not piss in your mouth in your teeth were on fire. None of these elites parasites would and I beleive vets who know the truth understand this.

He states if we don't genocide we will be attacked, all con men give us this shiiiite, the little warning, the planed one. How many people hear this and know in their hearts he is but threatning us.
In other words if the people don't go with the program we will be hit again. How can anyone in their right mind beleive his insanity.

Its past wake up call. its time to stand up and be counted.
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2009, 08:59:41 PM »
More truth about the Harriman/Bush/Rockefeller coup d'etat of 1963. These are the same criminal cabals that did 9/11 and are keeping us in the genocides in the Middle East:

Entire Text from Wikipedia, text formating from me:  The Men Who Killed Kennedy is a video documentary series by Nigel Turner that originally aired in 1988 in England with two one-hour segments about the John F. Kennedy assassination. The United States corporation, Arts & Entertainment Company, purchased the rights to the original two segments. Three one-hour segments were added in 1991. A sixth segment was added in 1995. Finally, three additional hourly segments were added by the History Channel in November 2003.

The ninth segment, titled "The Guilty Men", directly implicated Lyndon B. Johnson. Within days, Johnson's widow, Lady Bird Johnson, more of his surviving associates, ex-President Jimmy Carter, and the lone, living Warren Commission commissioner and ex-President Gerald R. Ford immediately complained to the History Channel. They subsequently threatened legal action against Arts & Entertainment Company, owner of the History Channel. "The Guilty Men" segment was completely withdrawn by the History Channel, that action resulting in considerable controversy.

Also during the series, French prisoner Christian David named Lucien Sarti as one of three French criminals hired to carry out the assassination of Kennedy, when he was interviewed by author Anthony Summers. This claim is one of the most strongly investigated theories presented on the show, as well as one of the section taken least seriously.

As of March 2004, a panel of three historians (selected by The History Channel) is reviewing the claims made in "The Guilty Men". The History Channel has announced that it will be airing a live discussion about the claims.


JFK Online: The Men Who Killed Kennedy


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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2009, 09:09:51 PM »
a statement like that tells us more about Obama than it does about the Taliban.

Nail on the head.

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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2009, 09:18:19 PM »
a statement like that tells us more about Obama than it does about the Taliban.

Indeed it does. Perhaps Obama's statement is a not-so-veiled way of psychologically preparing the masses for an upcoming false flag on 9/9/09.

With Obama's approval ratings falling as fast as they are, I can't imagine his psychopathic string-pullers waiting much longer before making their move.
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Re: OBAMA: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2009, 02:05:46 PM »
Indeed it does. Perhaps Obama's statement is a not-so-veiled way of psychologically preparing the masses for an upcoming false flag on 9/9/09.

With Obama's approval ratings falling as fast as they are, I can't imagine his psychopathic string-pullers waiting much longer before making their move.
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Re: "Those who attacked America on 9/11 are plotting to do so again."
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2015, 05:17:43 AM »
This bs is designed to program the masses and scare us in the know.
i know you know that anyways, it's 24/7

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YUP... Con artists get high giving the victim a heads up, it an ego thing.
  Brass and glass Charleys, guys who sell fake jewelry  appealing to the greed of the target, even these bottom feeders get kicks out of giving a hint to the victim.
  Obama is a super con, I'd give a pint of blood to discover his mentors.
No matter, he said it, an FF is on the table.
 The day the music died, JFK..This was not the beginning ,however it was a declaration, the coronation of LBJ and the crew.
I have to say the ignorance of the greater % of the GP have refused the reality, avoided it, lived in a state of bliss, it can't happen here scenario, gone with the flow no matter how mucken obvious  we have been played. The bubble was broken long ago, facing up to it is can be likened to herecy.
 BUCKLE UP..PLEASE.
 It began long ago but this year will be the awakening for the mainsteamers..
 
 

Offline jerryweaver

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It's not Aug 18, 2009.  This is an old speech and Sky News is Rupert Murdoch.

A lot more folks are in the know. 

If the cabal does another false flag the scale of 9/11  ???  ???  ???

I can't see it helping their cause. 

'We Need To Beat Taliban To Stop New 9/11' - Sky News
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Aug 18, 2009 - President Obama is mobbed by the crowd in Arizona. Share on Twitter · Share ... Barack Obama has warned that the Taliban must be defeated in Afghanistan to avoid another September 11-style attack. The US President was ...


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"Tic Tock" the clock is running down..3-2-1--Blast off!"

...the GOOFS in control will 'False Flag' us: AGAIN!

...most likely in the late Autumn of 2015!

...my thoughts only... ;)
"When the Truth was murdered:
Common Sense ran away..."

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  The insiders have A-Z contingency plans.
  I'm a tad more concerned whats on the elites table well before the election.
  Generally when his lips move its suk up rhetoric, scripted. This statement was a gaffer  for this guy.
   Ya know,( KKKKKKKKKKKK we can even give these mutts (peons) a warning and they don't get ).

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OK so I know the establishment is corrupt on many levels. But with a pyramid, there are angles that aren't as exposed. For instance, there are a lot of cults in America. The cults are what seem to have gotten us first. That's the real threat to our democracy. Dis-info or propaganda cults. I have friends who get crazy thoughts in their heads, and seem to think that it's aliens. I have a sense that time travel has been invented. I've always wondered about the guy who photographed UFO's with a special camera that no one else could see. And there are other types of UFO's made of plasma and particles. I know this girl who said she saw a UFO hover over where the hospital was built before it was built, and then split or shot out from itself. I'm trying to piece together all these conspiracies and figure out a solid stream other than pieces. Did we discover time travel in the distant past, and has it always existed, keeping humans trapped in the 21st cent. These are some of my predictions; so far coming true. Bernie Sanders makes it to the convention, against Marco Rubio. Bernie Sanders is compromised/flipped for an agenda. Project 3 has been initiated. Hillary Clinton was opposed to a Russian Psiop which would involve mass incarceration and murder/FEMA camps. Hillary opposed the project and that's why the establishment is after her and attacking her for an email account, in which she made an attempt to work within a corrupt government. The government is already illegal. You all HATE hillary but she's a martyr you just don't know it!! No one could have been stronger in that situation. She is a patriot. I infiltrated the stream 2 years ago, and Putin was speaking with three people and Hillary was the only one who opposed the Psiop plan to kill Americans. Also, climate change IS a hoax. It's a hoax to keep people under control due to the carbon emissions tax. I don't agree with it. I think you can have innovation without control. They want to turn the most beautiful free nation into a prison camp, and it's wrong. I also keep hearing about Project paperclip and project blue beam. I was targeted too. They know I am smart, that's why I can't afford college and am kept in poverty. So they can take everything from me.