Pentagon Wants Authority to Post Almost 400,000 Military Personnel in U.S.

Author Topic: Pentagon Wants Authority to Post Almost 400,000 Military Personnel in U.S.  (Read 6401 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Satyagraha

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,939
The Pentagon Wants Authority to
Post Almost 400,000 Military Personnel in U.S.

http://www.progressive.org/wx081209b.html

By Matthew Rothschild, August 12, 2009

The Pentagon has approached Congress to grant the Secretary of Defense the authority to post almost 400,000 military personnel throughout the United States in times of emergency or a major disaster.

This request has already occasioned a dispute with the nation’s governors. And it raises the prospect of U.S. military personnel patrolling the streets of the United States, in conflict with the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.

In June, the U.S. Northern Command distributed a “Congressional Fact Sheet” entitled “Legislative Proposal for Activation of Federal Reserve Forces for Disasters.” That proposal would amend current law, thereby “authorizing the Secretary of Defense to order any unit or member of the Army Reserve, Air Force Reserve, Navy Reserve, and the Marine Corps Reserve, to active duty for a major disaster or emergency.”

Taken together, these reserve units would amount to “more than 379,000 military personnel in thousands of communities across the United States,” explained

Paul Stockton, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and America’s Security Affairs, in a letter to the National Governors Association, dated July 20.

The governors were not happy about this proposal, since they want to maintain control of their own National Guard forces, as well as military personnel acting in a domestic capacity in their states.

“We are concerned that the legislative proposal you discuss in your letter would invite confusion on critical command and control issues,” Governor James H. Douglas of Vermont and Governor Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, the president and vice president of the governors’ association, wrote in a letter back to Stockton on August 7. The governors asserted that they “must have tactical control over all . . . active duty and reserve military forces engaged in domestic operations within the governor’s state or territory.”

According to Pentagon public affairs officer Lt. Col. Almarah K. Belk, Stockton has not responded formally to the governors but understands their concerns.

“There is a rub there,” she said. “If the Secretary calls up the reserve personnel to provide support in a state and retains command and control of those forces, the governors are concerned about if I have command and control of the Guard, how do we ensure unity of effort and everyone is communicating and not running over each other.”

Belk said Stockton is addressing this problem. “That is exactly what Dr. Stockton is working out right now with the governors and DHS and the National Guard,” she said. “He’s bringing all the stakeholders together.”

Belk said the legislative change is necessary in the aftermath of a “catastrophic natural disaster, not beyond that,” and she referred to Katrina, among other events.

But NorthCom’s Congressional fact sheet refers not just to a “major disaster” but also to “emergencies.” And it says, “Those terms are defined in section 5122 of title 42, U.S. Code.”

That section gives the President the sole discretion to designate an event as an “emergency” or a “major disaster.” Both are “in the determination of the President” alone.

That section also defines “major disaster” by citing plenty of specifics: “hurricane, tornado, storm, high water, wind-driven water, tidal wave, tsunami, earthquake, volcanic eruption, landslide, mudslide, snowstorm, or drought,” as well as “fire, flood, or explosion.”

But the definition of “emergency” is vague: “Emergency means any occasion or instance for which, in the determination of the President, Federal assistance is needed to supplement State and local efforts and capabilities to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in any part of the United States.”

Currently, the President can call up the Reserves only in an emergency involving “a use or threatened use of a weapon of mass destruction” or “a terrorist attack or threatened terrorist attack in the United States that results, or could result, in significant loss of life or property,” according to Title 10, Chapter 1209, Section 12304, of the U.S. Code. In fact, Section 12304 explicitly prohibits the President from calling up the Reserves for any other “natural or manmade disaster, accident, or catastrophe.”

So the new proposed legislation would greatly expand the President’s power to call up the Reserves in a disaster or an emergency and would extend that power to the Secretary of Defense. (There are other circumstances, such as repelling invasions or rebellions or enforcing federal authority, where the President already has the authority to call up the Reserves.)

The ACLU is alarmed by the proposed legislation. Mike German, the ACLU’s national security policy counsel, expressed amazement “that the military would propose such a broad set of authorities and potentially undermine a 100-year-old prohibition against the military in domestic law enforcement with no public debate and seemingly little understanding of the threat to democracy.”

At the moment, says Pentagon spokesperson Belk, the legislation does not have a sponsor in the House or the Senate.
And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

Online Jackson Holly

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,753
  • It's the TV, stupid!
    • JACKSON HOLLY'S OLD HOME PLACE


I am surprised that the Pentagon is even going through the motions of 'asking' Congress and the governors anything. They are going to put their f-ng troops any GD where they please.

St. Augustine: “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it.
Let it loose; it will defend itself."

Offline Kilika

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,762
  • Thank you Jesus!
Quote
The governors were not happy about this proposal, since they want to maintain control of their own National Guard forces, as well as military personnel acting in a domestic capacity in their states.

“We are concerned that the legislative proposal you discuss in your letter would invite confusion on critical command and control issues,” Governor James H. Douglas of Vermont and Governor Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, the president and vice president of the governors’ association, wrote in a letter back to Stockton on August 7. The governors asserted that they “must have tactical control over all . . . active duty and reserve military forces engaged in domestic operations within the governor’s state or territory.”

According to Pentagon public affairs officer Lt. Col. Almarah K. Belk, Stockton has not responded formally to the governors but understands their concerns.

“There is a rub there,” she said. “If the Secretary calls up the reserve personnel to provide support in a state and retains command and control of those forces, the governors are concerned about if I have command and control of the Guard, how do we ensure unity of effort and everyone is communicating and not running over each other.”

Wow, talk about spin!

Here the governors are trying to maintain control of their Constitutional duty to manage their own affairs within each state, and the Feds just move in and "federalize" the troops and threatening the states if they don't cooperate with "national security". What a scam at best.

The real problem that the states are contributing to is the fact that the federal government has rewritten the definition of "militia" and the states agree with the feds in calling the National Guard the militia, when it is not. They are part of the regular army, period. These clowns need to read the Constitution. The governors don't have the authority to have "command and control" of any active duty forces, period. That is where they are spinning it too, to make having the regular army on the streets sound legal.

The regular army, the active duty forces are under federal control for patroling the borders and beyond of the country only. The militia is for within the border of each state, and not for active duty service at a federal regular army level.

The ONLY reason for the feds to take over control of a state is also in the Constitution. It clearly says when the states have a problem of control and civil unrest that has gotten out of hand, and either they cannot handle it, or they refuse to handle it, and only under Martial Law at that can the feds step in, but, the states and their own in-state militias have a duty to keep the peace and order. It's not the feds place to just jump in and take command. The states must be given opportunity to handle their own affairs.

So here we have this Penagon clown spinning it into an issue of "command and control" confusion so they won't be "running over each other". That is such a load of garbage. Yet more Socialist dribble claiming that the people must be taken care of because the people can't take care of themselves.

There are so many signs of a major move by the feds is being prepared for it's not funny. They aren't putting into place all these laws, moving military personel stateside, militarizing police departments, training for civil unrest, etc with no reason. The federal government does things so they can do other things, and they fully intend to put their plans into action.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
1 Timothy 6:10 (KJB)

Online Jackson Holly

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,753
  • It's the TV, stupid!
    • JACKSON HOLLY'S OLD HOME PLACE


It is time, I think, to quit calling them US troops, anyway ... they are NWO troops ... setting up to quell any opposition in North America.
St. Augustine: “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it.
Let it loose; it will defend itself."

Mike Philbin

  • Guest
they're trying to REWRITE The Constitution by subterfuge (the Israeli way, historically)

they're so deluded in their modelling ability

they're so asleep.

Offline NWOSCUM

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,344
  • "Yuppie Scum"
I'm sure the 400,000 troops will be for our protection and comfort.   ::)
"The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, and their power of forgetting is enormous." --Adolph Hitler, "Mein Kampf"

Offline SP LIT

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 170

I am surprised that the Pentagon is even going through the motions of 'asking' Congress and the governors anything. They are going to put their f-ng troops any GD where they please.



Yeah, exactly. Why even ask anymore? We must be right on the edge of war if they are doing this....I'm gonna start printing Thomas Paine's "Common Sense" flyer now...

JBS

  • Guest

It is time, I think, to quit calling them US troops, anyway ... they are NWO troops ... setting up to quell any opposition in North America.

or NATO troops

Offline BluePhoenix729

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 53
  • `Don´t focus on death, for you won´t live life.`
Re: Pentagon Wants Authority to Post Almost 400,000 Military Personnel in U.S.
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2015, 05:05:09 AM »
martial law is coming when there is enough fear in society for terrorist attacks etc.
`Don´t focus on death, for you won´t live life.`

Offline chris jones

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 21,579
martial law is coming when there is enough fear in society for terrorist attacks etc.
            Hi Blue, glad you mentioned FEAR being a catalyst, its essential to the elites game.
Some face, sorry don't remember the name,said..We will have the people terrified and begging for martial law.

Offline chris jones

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 21,579
Blue, i could be wrong on this, however, each time I remember the DOD or any A-Z mentions they have a scenario in consideration, it allready has been initiated. They are simply giving a heads up to those of us who are keenly aware of their methods and are ignored.
 The public will of course ccept this as a the pentogran is debating the subject, entertaining a what they refer to as SAFETY, what I say is they have been bells up bringing this nation into a state of control under the guize of NS,