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« on: August 31, 2007, 03:52:56 PM »

I can attest to the fact that it is far from harmless. I've battled the stuff in various forms for about 10 years. It's ruined me in so many ways I couldn't even begin to tell you. At times I've wanted it so bad, nothing else mattered, relationships (lost a potential girlfriend due to this), school (at times have looked at it instead of doing work) job searching, etc. It's a daily struggle for me to this day.

And I can assure you many many marriages and families are destroyed because of this stuff. Real women can't compete with the women in porn, so how do you think they are gonna feel when they find out their husband looks at it? They're gonna feel inferior to these other girls. Then you got the kids too, who are exposed to this stuff at a younger age now then ever before, with how sex saturated our society is (I began getting into this at age 9, even before I had the internet). It's everywhere, and there's no avoiding it anymore.

All this started with the sexual revolution really. That's where the decline in morals began right there, and ever since then sex has become more and more casualized. It's treated like no big deal, when in reality nothing could be further from the truth. I don't think it's any coincidence that the divorce rate has steadily increased since the late 60's/early 70's.

I'm sure the NWO has had something to do with it all too, just look at how the media portrays sex nowadays. They have pushed that on us slowly over the years, to the point where nothing is sacred anymore at all. Abortion, homosexuality, casual sex, etc. The media has had a significant part in making all of those things as accepted and "ok" as they now are.
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2007, 04:39:19 PM »

I can attest to the fact that it is far from harmless. I've battled the stuff in various forms for about 10 years. It's ruined me in so many ways I couldn't even begin to tell you. At times I've wanted it so bad, nothing else mattered, relationships (lost a potential girlfriend due to this), school (at times have looked at it instead of doing work) job searching, etc. It's a daily struggle for me to this day.

And I can assure you many many marriages and families are destroyed because of this stuff. Real women can't compete with the women in porn, so how do you think they are gonna feel when they find out their husband looks at it? They're gonna feel inferior to these other girls. Then you got the kids too, who are exposed to this stuff at a younger age now then ever before, with how sex saturated our society is (I began getting into this at age 9, even before I had the internet). It's everywhere, and there's no avoiding it anymore.

All this started with the sexual revolution really. That's where the decline in morals began right there, and ever since then sex has become more and more casualized. It's treated like no big deal, when in reality nothing could be further from the truth. I don't think it's any coincidence that the divorce rate has steadily increased since the late 60's/early 70's.

I'm sure the NWO has had something to do with it all too, just look at how the media portrays sex nowadays. They have pushed that on us slowly over the years, to the point where nothing is sacred anymore at all. Abortion, homosexuality, casual sex, etc. The media has had a significant part in making all of those things as accepted and "ok" as they now are.

Great post Brother.  Right on the money!



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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 09:04:26 AM »

ajk, share the same views. Sometimes you just need to turn of the source.

I had to literally fast from my computer for two months. I spent my time working out and reading. Felt great. Haven't needed to look at it again. But its still tempting when its one click away and so easy to access.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 01:53:17 AM »

Nothing wrong with porn itself. Some people can build up an addiction because they're lacking anything exciting in their lives. My girlfriend and I watch porn together. It's not a replacement for her at all. In fact if you feel jerking it at your PC night after night is better then having a real woman i'd suggest the issue is with you and your relationship and not pornography. Stop shifting the blame and take a good look at yourself.

If i were to come home from work and find my girlfriend looking at pornography i guess i'd be angry.. that she started without me ! Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2007, 02:33:20 AM »

Nothing wrong with porn itself. Some people can build up an addiction because they're lacking anything exciting in their lives. My girlfriend and I watch porn together. It's not a replacement for her at all. In fact if you feel jerking it at your PC night after night is better then having a real woman i'd suggest the issue is with you and your relationship and not pornography. Stop shifting the blame and take a good look at yourself.

If i were to come home from work and find my girlfriend looking at pornography i guess i'd be angry.. that she started without me ! Tongue

I agree to an extent...but you have to admit ajk is right on the spot about the media. Porn has aways been with us, in the 50s I know wit was. BUT..the massive amounts of "FORCED" exposure is crazy! You can't watch a ballgame without seeing an ad for deodorant with a barely clothed hot girl all over some guy...and you can't watch standup comedy at 1 am without actually seeing porn commercials with fully exposed chicks...it's crazy. NOT to mention Faux News' total hypocrisy on this very issue...fox and friends and other "grouped" shows talk often about sex and porn like it's cool, and no big deal then asshats like O'reilly want to kill people who watch it...
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2007, 02:47:47 AM »

I agree to an extent...but you have to admit ajk is right on the spot about the media. Porn has aways been with us, in the 50s I know wit was. BUT..the massive amounts of "FORCED" exposure is crazy! You can't watch a ballgame without seeing an ad for deodorant with a barely clothed hot girl all over some guy...and you can't watch standup comedy at 1 am without actually seeing porn commercials with fully exposed chicks...it's crazy. NOT to mention Faux News' total hypocrisy on this very issue...fox and friends and other "grouped" shows talk often about sex and porn like it's cool, and no big deal then asshats like O'reilly want to kill people who watch it...

You haven't really explained why these things are bad though. Who is to say porn degrades women ? Not the women involved thats for sure. This isn't the 1920's where a woman was seen but not heard. Women like porn just as much as men do and sex just as men do. Time has given them the right to claim that now. Women don't need protecting from porn and are not fragile creatures in need of mans guidance. I'm 25 and that's been my experience with every woman to date. A deodorant add with a hot chick is exactly that and nothing more. No NWO conspiracy here. Sex sells.

Perhaps it's just American society being prudish compared to Australia. You won't find many people complaining here about scantily clad women on TV. I'll agree it should not be marketed at children and for the most part it isn't. I'd say it falls more on the lack of parental guidance for children being exposed to pornography then simply because it exists. When people don't want to take responsibility for their children then this is what happens.

There is no way in hell i want to go to boring old missionary with the lights off 5 minute routine by the wife that is synonymous prior to the sexual revolution. Sex is sex. No big deal. I'm a 25 year old male and i can't see how i would ever be convinced that too much naked women could ever be a bad thing.
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2007, 02:54:18 AM »

I agree with the concern about it being splashed all over everything everywhere you go, and I believe that the reason behind it is purely for distraction. Ya see a hot chick and it fuels hormonal drives, now that your busy thinking about gettin laid, you're spending less time thinking about other things like 9-11 was an inside job, or defence contractors butt f***ing the American tax payers...... That kinda stuff.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2007, 03:00:35 AM »

Oh come on we're all quite capable of having a fulfilling sex life AND paying attention to what is going on.
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2007, 08:26:35 AM »

You haven't really explained why these things are bad though. Who is to say porn degrades women ? Not the women involved thats for sure.

You truly have no idea. First off, porn (and how sex in general is portrayed today) creates the idea that a woman is no more then an object, just there for our pleasure. It teaches that they are just a body, just boobs and butt, and that the human aspect doesn't matter.

But beyond that porn degrades the women (as well as men) involved. Rather then try and explain it myself, I'll let you see what I mean from someone who used to be there herself.

http://www.shelleylubben.com/index.php?truth=porn

Read the part under the title: Porn is not Glamorous, and then try to tell me it doesn't degrade the women involved.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 08:33:56 AM »

You truly have no idea. First off, porn (and how sex in general is portrayed today) creates the idea that a woman is no more then an object, just there for our pleasure. It teaches that they are just a body, just boobs and butt, and that the human aspect doesn't matter.

But beyond that porn degrades the women (as well as men) involved. Rather then try and explain it myself, I'll let you see what I mean from someone who used to be there herself.

http://www.shelleylubben.com/index.php?truth=porn

Read the part under the title: Porn is not Glamorous, and then try to tell me it doesn't degrade the women involved.

Thats one persons experience. Guess what ? It differs for all women. I don't see women as mere objects. Neither does my girlfriend but we both enjoy watching porn together or alone. All porn teaches is the most primal urges are generally the best ones.

Second of all. This doesn't even make sense.

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It teaches that they are just a body, just boobs and butt, and that the human aspect doesn't matter.

Last i checked (this afternoon) boobs and a butt ARE apart of the human (female) aspect.

People in general who have issues with porn usually have some hang ups or feelings of inferiority to begin with. Frankly i wish we were all more like Bonobos. To each their own eh.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2007, 08:39:16 AM »

I can assure you this woman is not alone, there are numerous other stories out there from other women who share the exact same feelings she does, so it is not just one woman like you claim. In fact why don't you try something, next time you are watching porn, look into the eyes of the woman on the screen and tell me what you see. You may be surprised.

As for your other comment, well no kidding of course they are part of a woman. However you completely missed my point. My point is this, when you see an and lust after an attractive woman, you're not noticing her for her personality now are you?
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2007, 08:45:02 AM »

I can assure you this woman is not alone, there are numerous other stories out there from other women who share the exact same feelings she does, so it is not just one woman like you claim. In fact why don't you try something, next time you are watching porn, look into the eyes of the woman on the screen and tell me what you see. You may be surprised.

As for your other comment, well no kidding of course they are part of a woman. However you completely missed my point. My point is this, when you see an and lust after an attractive woman, you're not noticing her for her personality now are you?

You are asserting that all women in porn are some poor girls being taken advantage of which is far from the truth. Women make out like bandits compared to men in the porn industry. I've seen some movies where the woman was not that into it where as others were. In both cases they've made the decision to partake. You can't remove a persons right to choose.

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My point is this, when you see an and lust after an attractive woman, you're not noticing her for her personality now are you?

Welcome to the every day life of a normal adult male. You are not seriously suggesting this is a bad thing ? All relationships are formed on the basis of sexual attraction. You make it sound like men are the only ones capable of seeing women in this light. Women are just as "guilty". How can i notice someone for their personality when i'm only looking ? It's the initial sexual attraction that draws me toward a woman. A man that says otherwise is simply lying. Perhaps some just prefer to remain ignorant to how human sexuality works i'm not sure.

I know when women check me out i'm far from being upset. Yeah baby yeah !
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2007, 08:47:25 AM »

You are asserting that all women in porn are some poor girls being taken advantage of which is far from the truth. Women make out like bandits compared to men in the porn industry. I've seen some movies where the woman was not that into it where as others were. In both cases they've made the decision to partake. You can't remove a persons right to choose.

It's not always choice, half the time women are forced to do certain things just to keep their job. And of course they know they have no other choice, because this is where they are getting their money from.
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2007, 08:48:35 AM »

Half eh ? Not sure where you pulled those numbers from. I've been to numerous Adult expos and if anything it's the men being taken advantage of by the numerous women who are in attendance !
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2007, 08:53:42 AM »

That I would agree with, men are not men anymore. We've become animals who act like we've never seen a damn breast before.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2007, 08:59:24 AM »

Well evolution shows we are in fact animals so that's not surprising we would act on instinct. Sure we're more intelligent but that doesn't mean we have to ignore our primal urges and impulses. I read an interesting book "Why is sex fun ? The evolution of human sexuality" which went into detail why of all mammals humans are by far the weirdest when it comes to sexual things. Great read.

Agree to disagree i guess. I believe men and women were made for each other and shouldn't feel ashamed for having the urge to f**k each other like bunnies. If some want to have hang ups due to religion or other personal beliefs then it just leaves more for the taking for the rest of us. Nothing else to add =)
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2007, 09:04:15 AM »

Well evolution shows we are in fact animals so that's not surprising we would act on instinct.
Evolution is nothing but a lie.

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Agree to disagree i guess. I believe men and women were made for each other and shouldn't feel ashamed for having the urge to f**k each other like bunnies.

That's the exact opposite of what sex should be right there. Sex is a sacred thing meant to be shared with you and your wife only, not with every pretty woman who walks down the street.

Otherwise it loses all meaning, it's meant to be way of expressing your love for another person, by giving the most you possibly can to them, yourself. The way it's used now, that's not love, that's pure lust, which is hardly what it was intended for.
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2007, 09:07:01 AM »

Your own beliefs are exactly that so i won't debate you on your own personal points. Agree to disagree.
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2007, 09:08:47 AM »

Didn't mean to start such a debate, I actually ran an adult website with a colleague who has gone on to be very successful in the industry, I got out for personal belief reasons.

Check out the stats below and see how many people are involved in the world of porn. 

Pornography Industry Statistics
   Size of the Industry    $57.0 billion world-wide - $12.0 billion US
   Adult Videos    $20.0 billion
   Escort Services    $11.0 billion
   Magazines    $7.5 billion
   Sex Clubs    $5.0 billion
   Phone Sex    $4.5 billion
   Cable & Pay Per View    $2.5 billion
   Internet    $2.5 billion
   CD-ROM    $1.5 billion
   Novelties    $1.0 billion
   Other    $1.5 billion
 
 

Porn revenue is larger than all combined revenues of all professional football, baseball, and basketball franchises.

US porn revenue exceeds the combined revenues of ABC, CBS, & NBC (6.2 billion).

Child pornography generates $3 billion annually.
Internet Porn Statistics
     Pornographic Website's    4.2 million (12% of total website's)
     Pornographic Pages    372 million
     Daily Pornographic Search Engine Requests    68 million (25% of total search engine requests)
     Daily Pornographics Emails    2.5 billion (8% of total emails)
     Avg. Daily Pornographic Emails/User    4.5 per internet user
     Monthly Pornographic downloads (Peer-to-peer)    1.5 billion (35% of all downloads)
     Daily Gnutella "child pornography" requests    116 thousand
     Website's offering illegal child pornography    100 thousand
     Sexual solicitations of youth made in chat rooms    89%
     Youths who received sexual solicitation    20%
     Worldwide visitors to pornographic web sites    72 million annually
 
 
 
Children's Exposure to Pornography
     Average age of first Internet exposure to pornography    11 years old
     Largest Consumer of Internet Pornography    12-17 age group
     15-17 year olds having multiple hardcore exposures    80%
     8-16 year olds having viewed porn online    90% (most while doing homework)
     7-17 year olds who would freely give out home address    29%
     7-17 year olds who would freely give out email addresses    14%
     Children's characters linked to thousands of porn links    26 (including Pokeman and Action Man)
 
 
 
Adult Internet Porn Statistics
     Men admitting to accessing porn at work    20%
     US adults who regularly visit internet porn sites    40 million
     Promise Keepers men who viewed porn in the last week    53%
     Christians who say porn is a major problem in the home    47%
     Adults admitting to internet sexual addiction    10%
     Breakdown of male/female visitors to porn sites    72% male - 28% female
 
 
 
Women & Pornography
     13% of Women admit to accessing porn at work.
     70% of women keep their cyber activities secret.
     17% of all women struggle with pornography addiction.
     Women, far more than men, are likely to act out their behaviors in real life, such as having multiple partners, casual sex, or affairs.
     Women favor chat rooms 2X's more than men.
     1 out of 3 visitors to adult website's are women.
     9.4 million women access adult website's each month.
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2007, 09:14:44 AM »

@ mike,

Those are some incredible figures.  It is a plague,



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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2007, 09:17:56 AM »

Rather surprised at the fact that women would be more likely to act out then men quite honestly, would have thought the opposite.

As for the whole agree to disagree thing, I think what I was saying was more fact then mere opinion. Look where we are now, can you honestly say we as a people are better off for having this view of sex that we have? Look at the number of broken families, the divorce rate, how much kids are impacted by this casualization. All these things have came as a result of the sexual revolution, needless to say it's done more harm then it's done good.
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2007, 09:27:47 AM »

I dont think porn is anything great really..
but without porn bill o'LIElly might be talking a lot more BS
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2007, 09:31:28 AM »

How do you figure that?
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2007, 09:34:03 AM »

it was a joke, really
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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2007, 05:13:04 AM »

I can attest to the fact that it is far from harmless. I've battled the stuff in various forms for about 10 years. It's ruined me in so many ways I couldn't even begin to tell you. At times I've wanted it so bad, nothing else mattered, relationships (lost a potential girlfriend due to this), school (at times have looked at it instead of doing work) job searching, etc. It's a daily struggle for me to this day.

And I can assure you many many marriages and families are destroyed because of this stuff. Real women can't compete with the women in porn, so how do you think they are gonna feel when they find out their husband looks at it? They're gonna feel inferior to these other girls. Then you got the kids too, who are exposed to this stuff at a younger age now then ever before, with how sex saturated our society is (I began getting into this at age 9, even before I had the internet). It's everywhere, and there's no avoiding it anymore.

All this started with the sexual revolution really. That's where the decline in morals began right there, and ever since then sex has become more and more casualized. It's treated like no big deal, when in reality nothing could be further from the truth. I don't think it's any coincidence that the divorce rate has steadily increased since the late 60's/early 70's.

I'm sure the NWO has had something to do with it all too, just look at how the media portrays sex nowadays. They have pushed that on us slowly over the years, to the point where nothing is sacred anymore at all. Abortion, homosexuality, casual sex, etc. The media has had a significant part in making all of those things as accepted and "ok" as they now are.

Alot of repressed religious people go bananas once they get their hands on some porn apparently.  I've seen some porn and never had a problem.  If someone is married and needs to sneak porn behind the spouses back then there is a deeper problem in the marriage.  Anyway........
I dare anyone, especially the born again christians, to ACTUALLY read this all the way through and think about it and if necessary even research some actual documented Christian history.  Rather than read untill your personal beliefs get bruised and start ranting gibberish back at me.  Please.... and yes I know that the average christian is a good person.  In the following I direct most of my references to those in higher positions of power within.
   
Religion was the original NWO although it wasn't called NWO.  What is NWO?  Control.  What was/is religion?  Control.  It wasn't really all that long ago that if you didn't go to church and pay tithes every sunday or if you spoke out against the church people were branded heretics and punished and sometimes killed by mobs of so called christians.    Look at the dark ages and the crusades and the Inquisition and the witch hunts.  All began either by or with the express consent of Christianity in general most ofen the catholic church and it is historically documented fact that tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people were murdered.  The thing that prevented complete and total and outright genocide altogether was that people began to wake up and realise that what was going on was actually wrong and evil and apposed them.  This seems to be something that comes and goes often in history. But at least Christianity is all better now....(?)  What about all the good christians who belittled and beat and murdered dark skinned americans openly up until the 1960's and to some limited degree continue to do so only much more discretely.
There is not one religion on earth today that wouldn't take advantage of an opportunity to regain their former status of power.  In fact I would even suspect that religions still, in fact, plays a roll in current world events while hiding behind the guise of goodness.  If Christianity was really about love and peace and all that stuff they prattle on about then why are preists etc in the military giving troops moral support as they go off and kill other humans?  The preachers bible says "Thou shalt not kill"  NOT "Thou shalt not kill unless a preist says its ok".  And why are they working for the govt in aid of martial law (Romans 13 issue).
Personally I can't understand why any one person needs one or more other people to believe what they believe.  True faith is standing alone and knowing in your heart you are not alone when your god and saviour is within you.
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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2007, 05:39:24 AM »

Alot of repressed religious people go bananas once they get their hands on some porn apparently.  I've seen some porn and never had a problem.  If someone is married and needs to sneak porn behind the spouses back then there is a deeper problem in the marriage.  Anyway........
I dare anyone, especially the born again christians, to ACTUALLY read this all the way through and think about it and if necessary even research some actual documented Christian history.  Rather than read untill your personal beliefs get bruised and start ranting gibberish back at me.  Please.... and yes I know that the average christian is a good person.  In the following I direct most of my references to those in higher positions of power within.
   
Religion was the original NWO although it wasn't called NWO.  What is NWO?  Control.  What was/is religion?  Control.  It wasn't really all that long ago that if you didn't go to church and pay tithes every sunday or if you spoke out against the church people were branded heretics and punished and sometimes killed by mobs of so called christians.    Look at the dark ages and the crusades and the Inquisition and the witch hunts.  All began either by or with the express consent of Christianity in general most ofen the catholic church and it is historically documented fact that tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people were murdered.  The thing that prevented complete and total and outright genocide altogether was that people began to wake up and realise that what was going on was actually wrong and evil and apposed them.  This seems to be something that comes and goes often in history. But at least Christianity is all better now....(?)  What about all the good christians who belittled and beat and murdered dark skinned americans openly up until the 1960's and to some limited degree continue to do so only much more discretely.
There is not one religion on earth today that wouldn't take advantage of an opportunity to regain their former status of power.  In fact I would even suspect that religions still, in fact, plays a roll in current world events while hiding behind the guise of goodness.  If Christianity was really about love and peace and all that stuff they prattle on about then why are preists etc in the military giving troops moral support as they go off and kill other humans?  The preachers bible says "Thou shalt not kill"  NOT "Thou shalt not kill unless a preist says its ok".  And why are they working for the govt in aid of martial law (Romans 13 issue).
Personally I can't understand why any one person needs one or more other people to believe what they believe.  True faith is standing alone and knowing in your heart you are not alone when your god and saviour is within you.


Actually as a born again Christian I can say that some of what you write I agree with.....   even though you may care less if I agree or not.   And actually I think that last sentence is what  true Christanity is.....  period.    If you truly have accepted Jesus the Christ as your Lord and believe in your heart that His Father raised Him from the dead, your God and your Savior reside within you and all the rest is created by man.   According to Jesus true religion is visiting the sick and taking care of orphans and widows......   the rest is man made.   Part of why He came here and died in our stead was to get rid of all the rituals and....   well religion.    He made possible for "religion" to be directly between you and Him and bypass all the buildings and priests and every thing else.

It is good to meet others who are born agains and fellowship, and that is what the early church was about......   but please don't get the religious organizations confused with Christanity for it just 'aint so.   
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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2007, 05:52:07 AM »

porn is harmless those who get addicted are as someone else said lacking another part of there life
as for divorce people have become greedy laws in divorce are extremely off tilted some women research it  then get a ok guy middle clas- semi rich-rich
have some kids wait some years then take him down
next thing you know the guys liveing in a 1 room apartment

as for the sex in tv .... sex sells get over it

example of the divorce thing my mom lost her kids to her husband .... he only wanted them couse he didnt wanna pay child support. he was greedy

gotta rember greed can attest for 90% of all worldly problems
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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2007, 05:52:31 AM »

Actually as a born again Christian I can say that some of what you write I agree with.....   even though you may care less if I agree or not.   And actually I think that last sentence is what  true Christanity is.....  period.    If you truly have accepted Jesus the Christ as your Lord and believe in your heart that His Father raised Him from the dead, your God and your Savior reside within you and all the rest is created by man.   According to Jesus true religion is visiting the sick and taking care of orphans and widows......   the rest is man made.   Part of why He came here and died in our stead was to get rid of all the rituals and....   well religion.    He made possible for "religion" to be directly between you and Him and bypass all the buildings and priests and every thing else.

It is good to meet others who are born agains and fellowship, and that is what the early church was about......   but please don't get the religious organizations confused with Christanity for it just 'aint so.   

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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2007, 05:56:24 AM »

Actually as a born again Christian I can say that some of what you write I agree with.....   even though you may care less if I agree or not.   And actually I think that last sentence is what  true Christanity is.....  period.    If you truly have accepted Jesus the Christ as your Lord and believe in your heart that His Father raised Him from the dead, your God and your Savior reside within you and all the rest is created by man.   According to Jesus true religion is visiting the sick and taking care of orphans and widows......   the rest is man made.   Part of why He came here and died in our stead was to get rid of all the rituals and....   well religion.    He made possible for "religion" to be directly between you and Him and bypass all the buildings and priests and every thing else.

It is good to meet others who are born agains and fellowship, and that is what the early church was about......   but please don't get the religious organizations confused with Christanity for it just 'aint so.  

well i look at religion as a way to give people moral rules and standards yet wen u look at it those people who are so religious dont even have these standards
also religion helps to quell the fear of death
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2007, 08:33:13 AM »

porn is harmless those who get addicted are as someone else said lacking another part of there life

Porn is far from harmless, the people involved are used and abused for one, which leads to many problems for then. And the users themselves end up getting a skewed perverted view of sex as a result of it.
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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2007, 08:43:08 AM »

Interesting topics, but I as wan atheist when I used porn, I had a better sex life then most of you (considering I was running porn sites) and I wasn't lacking anything. Matter of fact, to the world my life style seemed better then.

However, there is a reason porn feels so natural to you guys. I never had a problem with porn, then one day, I just saw myself differently. I noticed that porn just makes me feel like a man. And thats really the heart of it. You can make yourself feel good, satisfy your lusts and fantasize that she wants you and you please her. Its all subconscious.

Most people aren't arware their are organizations out there in our own government who want to harm us. And most people don't realize porn is harming them either. It feels good, its fun. Whats the harm? Not hurting me or anyone else. But if you'd take a real look close look, you might be surprised what you find.

Then again you might not find anything. I used to be a big advocate of the joys and benefits of porn.

Today, I think it is a plague sapping men of their real strength.
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2007, 09:02:38 AM »

I used to be that way too, used to think there was no problem with what I was doing. Now I know better then that. The thing with porn is, is that's it's an easy way out of reality. Like any drug, you can use it to run away from your real life. In this way you don't have to deal with what's really going on using this. Plus you know you won't get hurt by these women (and men) on screen. There's no risk there, unlike real life.

That's one part of it, the other thing is by using and looking at porn, you are harming your future relationships. You put these images into your mind, and then it consumes you and changes how you think, to the point that what you see in porn is what you then see in reality as well. I've noticed that porn has really impacted how I view women I may see in real life, undressing with the eyes, or lusting at times when I see a girl in skimpy clothing. The porn has desensitized my mind.

Also too, you rob your wife or girlfriend of real true intimacy with these images ingrained in your mind. It's not fair to her if you're with her and thinking of someone else you've seen in porn. By using porn, you give off the message that your wife or girlfriend isn't good enough, isn't measuring up.
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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2007, 09:10:43 AM »

Pornography is just another page right out of "The Plan".
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2007, 09:22:07 AM »

Yep and the plan is working to a T. They wanted to break up the family, and this is just how you do it.
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« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2007, 01:52:49 PM »

Porn is enslaving/evil/harmless.  It depends on the methods.

Enslaving - Pull Technology

Evil - Push Technology

Harmless - Static Technology

The government engages in various technologies to use porn and the human brain to create porn slaves.  They have done decades of studies and programing on this and are getting a good 20-25% with this technology.

Push/pull technology is a conspiracy run by the NWO and has nothing to do with free market systems.

They bombard you with spy/worm/sleuth/spam.  Your computer is tracked like an implantable RFID card.  Your keystrokes, etc are analyzed (includes tracking all camera/microphone activity as well as remote control over your mic/camera).  You are gived bait on every page (blond/brunette/young/old/large breasts/big package/whatever).  You are slowly given more pictures with more revealing accentuations of what it appears you clicked on.  So 1st photo ad (the bait ads are not porn, they could be an ad for Jiffy Lube, it does not matter, they own the big marketing houses and have this control) has a dirty blond with size B, then the next has platinum blond with size C.  When the data mining notices a trend, you are tagged with your individual desires.  Then comes the fun...spam, more provocative ads, etc.  till you try their "free site" then the payment ones, then you proetty much got 24/7 nonstop supply to feed all of your addictions...mission accomplished (oh yeah all of that activity is tracked to use against you later).
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« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2007, 11:18:02 PM »

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Porn is far from harmless, the people involved are used and abused for one, which leads to many problems for then. And the users themselves end up getting a skewed perverted view of sex as a result of it.
   

You are generalising far too much here. Many people in porn, especially higher end classier porn get paid loads of money to have sex with people they know and are friends with, or indeed married to, in front of a small camera crew and have their real identities well hidden by clever make up and lighting.

Many professional women do it part time to create a large extra income for themselves and the situation is win - win.

However, there is a seedy exploitative end to the industry, the industry has in my view been somewhat hijacked and perverted away from what it should be into a very poorly produced mass close up of in out in out coitus shots, anal shots, bad dubbing of fake sex noises and needless and unarousing orgies in wierd situations, plus a seeming preference for debasingly slutty image, the cheap available image that wears too much latex or fish net stockings etc etc (I really hate fish net stockings, I do not know why but I do).

I dream of a porn industry unperverted and filled with classy high quality porn, usually with couples, with no dubbing and limited or zero close up coitus and anal shots, where the emphasis is not on big, hard, overly physical f***ing, but rather on being aroused by watching people making love to each other, where the arousal comes from watching people's share an experience, (in high quality sound and vision of course  Cheesy ), a mixture if you will of the best soft porn ideas with no restriction on showing people's parts, but without the obsession of never ending close ups.

porn filmed in private by preset cameras and mikes, or a crew of one or two close friends,  rather than hard core porn filmed in studios with 10 or 20 people behind the camera, all depersonalised with the intimacy taken completely out of the equation.

My vision of an ideal or clean porn industry would also appeal equally to women in every respect.

I do reckon that some nefarious NWO forces have perverted the porn industry into something cheaper, sluttier and nastier than need be the case, a deliberate derailment to stop people awakening properly to the  joy of communication that can come from sexual experience, turning it instead into a large and long and poorly shot close up of a coitus event with lots and lots of lube.
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« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2007, 11:24:33 PM »

Porn is good....like heroin is good.

That being said, I do not support "laws" that ban either, if that is the sort of filth you wish to bring into your life.
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« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2007, 11:58:23 PM »

Has no one read that Communist takeover plan topic?  Porn is just another cog in the machinery used to take down humanity... I can't believe some people think that the biggest industry of all, porn, somehow isn't under complete NWO control. Its ridiculous, people come here knowing that 9/11 was an inside job, knowing the government wants to do everything in its power to mess you up and feeding you with such an intense distraction such as porn just isn't part of the plan? Come on, get over your addiction and WAKE UP! I have struggled with porn just as much as the next guy but I also have come to realize just how bad it is for your relationships with women and your general outlook on life. How can you think the NWO doesn't control porn when it controls nearly everything else? Ridiculous...
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2007, 08:54:05 AM »

that is what I mean about the industry having bene perverted, they take something that can be entirely benign and turn it into something sinister. They do the same with the drugs trade, weed and E and mushrooms can play an entirely positive role in our lives, but instead it is perverted into something bad by the NWO, same with most organised religion, Vatican, Evangelical Domionist loons, islam, Hindi nationalism etc etc.

They take what is good and can help set us free and pervert it into something much grubbier and seedy.

Porn itself is not the problem, the way it has been perverted and twisted is the problem.
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2007, 10:19:38 AM »

In my opinion, the American stuff has gotten waaaaay too brutal for my taste. For example, stuff like Anabolic, BangBros, & Barely Legal. It's like they want to punish the girls. That's no fun, watching a chick yell and scream in agony.

If you must, seek out the Hungarian stuff like Private, or French stuff like Marc Dorcel.

In an interview I heard Dr. Henry Makow, author of Cruel Hoax, he mentions how he believes all porn is essentially homosexual, and how's its another tool in the NWO's toolbox to break up the family.

Think about it, would most guys prefer to watch a straight porn flick with a guy banging a chick with a big dick or a little dick? If you ask most guys, they'll say "Hell yeah! I wanna see some big dick!" and won't even realize how gay that sounds.

Me? ....well, I've switched to solo female performances. hey, it's a start right? lol  Grin
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