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« on: August 08, 2009, 03:37:07 PM »

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=Gdnzprpr4z
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 03:40:11 PM »

Nice find!

Alex needs to be made aware of this outrage.
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 03:43:34 PM »

Nice find!

Alex needs to be made aware of this outrage.

I hope he exposes these rat bastards gimmicks asap. This is evidence that they are violating the first amendment rights of others.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 03:46:14 PM »

it was only a matter of time. come on old people standing up to Obama? you just cant have any of that.
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2009, 03:47:04 PM »

I hope he exposes these rat bastards gimmicks asap. This is evidence that they are violating the first amendment rights of others.

Just like the Black Panthers who were caught intimidating voters in Philadelphia, but yet the DOJ dropped the charges against them.

Can you imagine what will happen if Obama's brownshirts get entrenched in positions of power?
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2009, 03:49:27 PM »

Just like the Black Panthers who were caught intimidating voters in Philadelphia, but yet the DOJ dropped the charges against them.

Can you imagine what will happen if Obama's brownshirts get entrenched in positions of power?

It would be much worse that Hitler's stasi squads, much worse! The race war would be severe, especially with this country's past.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2009, 03:51:37 PM »

this sh1t is out of control!
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2009, 03:52:04 PM »

This needs to be stickied!

Sane...
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2009, 03:58:37 PM »

"The video specified is not available"

Is anyone else getting this mesage???


I found this ACORN video on YouTube, however...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KikIrMaUTHY
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2009, 03:59:26 PM »

My favorite part of the video is when the ACORN lady says the people were sent there by some one...
No, YOU were sent there to infringe upon peoples rights with your nice RED shirt by ACORN. Do see the difference idiot?
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2009, 03:59:52 PM »

"The video specified is not available"

Is anyone else getting this mesage???


I found this ACORN video on YouTube, however...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KikIrMaUTHY

No, I can watch it with no problems.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2009, 04:01:44 PM »

My favorite part of the video is when the ACORN lady says the people were sent there by some one...
No, YOU were sent there to infringe upon peoples rights with your nice RED shirt by ACORN. Do see the difference idiot?

That's their main talking point. Anyone who speaks out against Obamacare is a plant.  Anyone who speaks out against Obama in general is a racist.  The MSM is saying it, so it must be true in the minds of the sheeple.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2009, 04:40:44 PM »

No, I can watch it with no problems.

You're right..... my PeerGuardian app was blocking the IP address...  it's either a Gov't or Education based IP

Unreal.... that video proves that our Amendments are under assault right now from this Administration!!!
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2009, 04:52:43 PM »

Acorn is really giving the black community a bad image right now. This is absolutely horrible.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2009, 05:02:48 PM »

I need to start getting more active, I'd like to see them call a young black adult with a huge afro a Racist, they could still prob say I'm a plant (I can hear them saying "The little hoodlum was paid") Smiley

Acorn is really giving the black community a bad image right now. This is absolutely horrible.

I hate how people generalize things into black community, gay community, etc... how about it making people who were in the video &  believe what they did was just, look bad?
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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2009, 05:17:14 PM »

The worst thing to me is the slave mentality of the people who bow down to  the "Authority Figure" & lick his boots when he tells them to "MUSH" & then a Lady broke down that Educated us "Boot Licking 101".
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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2009, 05:22:44 PM »

That's ignant.
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2009, 05:42:17 PM »

That's ignant.

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2009, 05:49:56 PM »

Acorn is really giving the black community a bad image right now. This is absolutely horrible.

That's EXACTLY how they want you to feel!!!

This isn't about RACE any never was.... this is about POWER... if you want to put it on anything, at least point the finger at CLASSISM first here!!!

Please don't make this about race... you'll be playing into the hand they've already dealt.... RE-SHUFFLE THE CARDS!! TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2009, 06:25:24 PM »

They are bussing asscorn people in to all the town hall meetings now. It has been covered by the more mainstream conservatives lately as well. I think this is disgusting behavior! I do agree with Phil Valentine who said the other night:
"This isn't about republicans or democrats anymore...The liberals would like you to think this isn't a grass roots movement and the republicans are co-opting these protests...The simple fact of the matter is that George Bush saddled up the socialist horse that Obama is riding on now!"
I thought that was awesome because a lot of the die hard republicans have realized the error of their ways when they placed their trust in politicians. Now they are getting like us and finally seeing through the left/right paradigm for the first time and they are pissed off.
Lets not forget that Obama said: "We will have to hit the opposition back twice as hard." That sounds like a challenge from where I'm sitting.
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2009, 06:30:03 PM »

They are bussing asscorn people in to all the town hall meetings now. It has been covered by the more mainstream conservatives lately as well. I think this is disgusting behavior! I do agree with Phil Valentine who said the other night:
"This isn't about republicans or democrats anymore...The liberals would like you to think this isn't a grass roots movement and the republicans are co-opting these protests...The simple fact of the matter is that George Bush saddled up the socialist horse that Obama is riding on now!"
I thought that was awesome because a lot of the die hard republicans have realized the error of their ways when they placed their trust in politicians. Now they are getting like us and finally seeing through the left/right paradigm for the first time and they are pissed off.
Lets not forget that Obama said: "We will have to hit the opposition back twice as hard." That sounds like a challenge from where I'm sitting.

That's what makes me laugh.  The DemocRATS are accusing the Repulitards of using the same underhanded techniques that they've always used.
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2009, 06:32:19 PM »

That's EXACTLY how they want you to feel!!!

This isn't about RACE any never was.... this is about POWER... if you want to put it on anything, at least point the finger at CLASSISM first here!!!

Please don't make this about race... you'll be playing into the hand they've already dealt.... RE-SHUFFLE THE CARDS!! TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!
I'm not trying to play the race card, and I'm sorry if it came off as if I was. But it's kind of true, I have yet to see one Acorn member that is a part of any other heritage. And, Just like the KKK gave white folks a bad image for years and years, and the Nazis gave German people a bad image for years and years, I'm afraid that Acorn will do the same to the black community. I'm not being racist, I have more ethnic friends than I do white, and I'm also not 100% white. I'm just afraid, that after all of this, that Acorn will destroy the image of the black community, and they really don't need that, they've had enough oppression and hard ships already, they don't need other groups targeting them and appointing them with Acorn. Those are feeling and quote from some of my African America friends, so It's not me, I'm not racist, I'm sorry if I came off as so.
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2009, 06:38:12 PM »

I like Clepto-crats and Republi-cons.
I might make a transformers poster with Obama or Pelosi and some random spineless republicans too.
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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2009, 06:38:54 PM »

I'm not trying to play the race card, and I'm sorry if it came off as if I was. But it's kind of true, I have yet to see one Acorn member that is a part of any other heritage. And, Just like the KKK gave white folks a bad image for years and years, and the Nazis gave German people a bad image for years and years, I'm afraid that Acorn will do the same to the black community. I'm not being racist, I have more ethnic friends than I do white, and I'm also not 100% white. I'm just afraid, that after all of this, that Acorn will destroy the image of the black community, and they really don't need that, they've had enough oppression and hard ships already, they don't need other groups targeting them and appointing them with Acorn. Those are feeling and quote from some of my African America friends, so It's not me, I'm not racist, I'm sorry if I came off as so.

Wow, isn't it sad that you were forced by our PC society to launch into that apologetic rant to prove that you're not a racist? All you did was give your (valid)  opinion, but because "black people" were mentioned, you automatically stepped into the racism minefield.

Lets face it.  If the races were reversed, this would become a MAJOR story about racism.  It wouldn't be tolerated for 5 minutes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  AFAIC, racism is racism, regardless of the race of the "perpetrators" or the "victims".
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2009, 06:39:30 PM »

I like Clepto-crats and Republi-cons.
I might make a transformers poster with Obama or Pelosi and some random spineless republicans too.

Libtard is a good one, too.

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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2009, 06:43:36 PM »

Wow, isn't it sad that you were forced by our PC society to launch into that apologetic rant to prove that you're not a racist? All you did was give your (valid)  opinion, but because "black people" were mentioned, you automatically stepped into the racism minefield.

Lets face it.  If the races were reversed, this would become a MAJOR story about racism.  It wouldn't be tolerated for 5 minutes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  AFAIC, racism is racism, regardless of the race of the "perpetrators" or the "victims".
Thanks for understanding Monkeypox, Much appreciated. A lot of my black friends tell me all the time how much they hate the Acorn people, and how much of a "disgrace to their race" that they are, and humanity in general.
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« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2009, 06:53:06 PM »

Wow, isn't it sad that you were forced by our PC society to launch into that apologetic rant to prove that you're not a racist? All you did was give your (valid)  opinion, but because "black people" were mentioned, you automatically stepped into the racism minefield.

Lets face it.  If the races were reversed, this would become a MAJOR story about racism.  It wouldn't be tolerated for 5 minutes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  AFAIC, racism is racism, regardless of the race of the "perpetrators" or the "victims".

Wow, way to totally MISREAD what I was saying... GO re-read my post..

I was just saying he's PLAYING INTO THEIR AGENDA.... to make him THINK that this is about RACE....

I was IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM saying HE was a racist.... comprende?

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« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2009, 06:59:48 PM »

Wow, way to totally MISREAD what I was saying... GO re-read my post..

I was just saying he's PLAYING INTO THEIR AGENDA.... to make him THINK that this is about RACE....

I was IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM saying HE was a racist.... comprende?

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Way to MISREAD what I was saying.  I was in no way referring to you. I was responding to his post, not yours. Your post didn't even enter into it at all.

I said that he was forced by our PC society to write that apologetic post to prove that's he's not a racist, just because he gave his valid opinion on a situation that just happened to involve black people.
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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2009, 07:05:29 PM »

Way to MISREAD what I was saying.  I was in no way referring to you. I was responding to his post, not yours. Your post didn't even enter into it at all.

I said that he was forced by our PC society to write that apologetic post to prove that's he's not a racist, just because he gave his valid opinion on a situation that just happened to involve black people.

Look at the chain of events... (1) He replied to me directly, then (2) You replied to HIM directly (and he was saying "sorry" for being racist to MY post, so that only led me to believe that you were saying to him to disregard MY post... does this make sense?

That's where I derived my reply to you!! My apologies...
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« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2009, 07:11:46 PM »

Look at the chain of events... (1) He replied to me directly, then (2) You replied to HIM directly (and he was saying "sorry" for being racist to MY post, so that only led me to believe that you were saying to him to disregard MY post... does this make sense?

That's where I derived my reply to you!! My apologies...

No need to apologize, you did nothing wrong.

Because of our PC society, he felt compelled to "prove" that he isn't a racist - even though he did nothing that should be construed as racist.  That's all I meant, and what I said.

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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2009, 07:28:15 PM »

I think he might of gotten in the notion of racist from my post Smiley I was refering to people portraying Anti-Obama ppl as racist. & like I said I just had an issue with his Generalization I could care less where it was race, sex, age, etc.
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« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2009, 07:34:48 PM »

f**k the CIA! They have ruined the type of people I grew up with! Just so you folks know, I grew up in the ghetto, I had tons of black friends, for years the CIA have been telling blacks that white people are in control and that blacks have to "rise up" and get in charge, mostly through violence.

It pisses me off.

I don't care what your skin color is, nobody is more human, or an elevated species or whatever than anyone else, we're all human, just cause you got darker skin than me does mean a thing!
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2009, 07:42:05 PM »

So is not listening to a cops order resisting arrest now?
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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2009, 07:50:03 PM »

So is not listening to a cops order resisting arrest now?

According to ACORN  Obama's Brownshirts.
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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2009, 07:59:44 PM »

I'm sorry for what I have started. I did not know it would go this far. I'm sorry I let one of my perspectives and observations out. I guess I need to keep my mouth shut Lips sealed and my opinions to myself. No more will you be hearing opinions or observations from my end on any matter or subject from now on.

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I'm sorry for what I have started. I did not know it would go this far. I'm sorry I let one of my perspectives and observations out. I guess I need to keep my mouth shut Lips sealed and my opinions to myself. No more will you be hearing opinions or observations from my end on any matter or subject from now on.



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After touring the newly liberated Nazi concentration camp at Ohrdruf, Germany, in 1945, Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower said that he made his very public visit "to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.' "

Those words are chiseled on the wall of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, which has just opened a major new exhibition devoted to propaganda. Eisenhower's intuition that propaganda, which made the Holocaust possible, might also be used to deny its existence remains prescient. Just last week, German Chancellor Angela Merkel blasted the Catholic Church for rehabilitating the disgraced bishop, Richard Williamson, who has publicly questioned essential and accepted facts about the Nazi genocide.

In many ways, "State of Deception: The Power of Nazi Propaganda" feels like an introduction to Holocaust Museum 2.0. The $3.2 million exhibition is one of the largest and most ambitious in years, and certainly the most technologically slick in recent memory. By taking on the subject of propaganda, the museum is taking on the whole of the Nazi project, retelling the story of Hitler's rise to prominence, his consolidation of power, his ideology and his wars, and the aftermath, including a substantial look at how propaganda and genocide remain linked in places such as Rwanda.

One item on display, a large painting of the young Hitler speaking to a small, rapt audience, is titled "In the Beginning Was the Word." That biblical reference would make a good subtitle to "State of Deception," which covers much of the same ground as the museum's permanent collection, while more explicitly emphasizing the degree to which propaganda was the very fiber of the whole Nazi project.

It's also a subject of ongoing debate in our own political culture, where politicians routinely resort to the same techniques -- simplification, vilification, message branding -- that the Nazis relied on seven decades ago.

In her preface to the exhibition catalogue, museum Director Sara J. Bloomfield is particularly concerned about how new media might revive ideas and tactics that should have been thoroughly discredited in the rubble of conquered Germany. "The haters and propagandists have new tools in this age of the Internet, and at the same time consumers of information seem less equipped to handle the massive amount of unmediated information confronting them daily," she writes.

The exhibition acknowledges and includes substantial amounts of the dark phantasmagoria of propaganda we know so well: Hitler and Goebbels hectoring huge crowds, swastika banners hanging from stark, neoclassical buildings and crude anti-Semitic posters, movies and books. But curator Steven Luckert pulls back from the high-water mark of Nazi power in the early years of World War II to look instead at origins of its imagery in World War I, when the United States and its allies trafficked in jarring, anti-German propaganda. He traces propaganda through the bitter end of the Third Reich and its aftermath, when the victorious allies dismantled the old propaganda regime while using some of its methods to de-Nazify conquered Germany.

Lessons emerge. In many ways, Nazi propaganda was a perverse dialogue with Nazi opponents (at home and abroad) and with the German people. It could be as subtle as it was crass, and there were feedback mechanisms to ensure that failed messages or techniques were examined and improved. Nazis used sophisticated niche messaging, especially during their rise to power in the early 1930s, tailoring ideology to different interest groups. They were keenly aware of their competitors in other parties during the same period, and often out-maneuvered them. And they understood the many facets of propaganda, from its positive powers -- to instill a sense of unity and purpose in a beleaguered population -- to its slow, corrosive power to foster indifference and, finally, hatred.

One of the most jarring images of the exhibition is an elegant and austere 1932 poster showing Hitler's face hovering like a disembodied mask against a dark background, with a single word -- "Hitler" -- written underneath in sans-serif type. Luckert says the poster was withheld until the final weeks of the 1932 elections so that its stark simplicity would contrast with the colorful and cluttered campaign posters of competing parties.

It is a reminder that Hitler was the monstrous child of democracy. Although he never won a majority of votes in Germany, his power grew through the effective manipulation of the democratic process.

"Hitler uber Deutschland," a brilliant propaganda stunt advertised in a 1932 pamphlet, anticipated the final days of American political contests. Using planes rented from Lufthansa, Hitler crisscrossed the country, speaking to nearly a million people. The poster promotes the campaign, showing a three-engine plane spewing little swastikas over the country. The imagery and the tour itself emphasized something essential to Hitler's appeal: Despite his ideology's hatred, he knew that he must present himself as a politician who transcended the usual petty divisions of a fractured society. He was a pan-German candidate.

That didn't last. Within days of being named chancellor in late January 1933, Hitler began placing constraints on his opponents and the press. The swiftness with which he consolidated the powers of communication was breathtaking, as are the depth and penetration of his messaging techniques. The exhibition includes toy soldiers in brown shirts and Nazi armbands; games such as "Jews Out!," played on a board ringed with an old, medieval city wall, and "Radio Sende Spiel," which encouraged players to avoid enemy or foreign radio stations; and children's books such as "The Poisonous Mushroom," which showed a Jewish caricature rendered as blue-headed toadstool.

It covers the pseudo-science of race as it was taught in public schools and the recasting of German history as a series of grand accomplishments and horrific betrayals (by Jews, capitalists, communists and outsiders of all stripes). It demonstrates how hatred was deployed like a fusillade to soften the populace before the country goose-stepped over yet another line of civilized behavior. As Germany prepared for an all-out war on its Eastern Front, it also had to harden its own soldiers in preparation for the atrocities they would commit -- and so the tone of anti-Semitism grew more virulent and hateful in posters and other media.

The exhibition continues through Nuremberg, where Nazi propagandists were tried as war criminals and a critical distinction between hate speech and direct incitement of genocide was established. A postlude, which examines how that distinction played out in international trials after the 1994 genocide in Rwanda, suggests the degree to which propaganda is still an unsettled subject.

A final picture of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose calls for the elimination of Israel may violate the United Nations convention on genocide, raises the question of whether we can draw lines between hate speech and incitement before people start dying. This is a more directly topical and controversial note than is usually struck in a temporary exhibition at the Holocaust Museum.

But it is not as risky a gesture as the open display of much of this still powerful material, which might not have been possible just a few years ago when more survivors were alive. The red, white and black swastika flag (which is seen in the permanent collection behind a grate) has an almost promiscuous power in its presentation here. A mini-cinema includes film footage newly edited into a tape-loop that is disturbingly more effective than the original material, at least for today's audiences. Oil paintings of Hitler as an orator and war leader threaten to overwhelm their museum context, and work simply as effective imagery.

The Holocaust Museum has never been behind the times when it comes to its museum technology. But more than any other museum in town, it has been rigorous about putting content and ideas first. This exhibition doesn't opt for superficiality over technology -- the depth of information available is still remarkable -- but it does stray into the usual danger area of glitzy, interactive museum design. Which is noise and confusion.

And so as survivor Gerda Hass talks to the viewer on a small video screen, remembering how no matter which station you picked on the radio "there was always Hitler's voice," you can hear "Deutschland uber alles" filtering in from the mini-theater. A fascinating letter from 1946, detailing charges against the notorious anti-Semitic publisher Julius Streicher, is difficult to read because of the intrusion of a newsreel nearby. These are easy mistakes to make, but one hopes they don't presage a move toward the current groupthink of exhibition design, which assumes that young people will respond only to a wild polyphony of media and stimulation.

Even today, the most jarring materials from the Holocaust are the items that, like Eisenhower's visit to Ohrdruf, prove on some basic, incontrovertible level that the seemingly unbelievable did indeed happen. Near the 1932 poster of Hitler's face, which is so clean and elegant in its design, is a black-and-white photograph of young Nazi men hanging the same image on a wooden wall. As one man rises up to secure its top edge, you can see the hole in his sock as his heel rises out of a ratty old shoe. The poster, and the photograph of the poster in action, and the raw visual evidence of the economic, social and moral poverty within which Nazism took root, is more powerful than any touch screen or video terminal. But you need a bit of time, a little quiet and a lot of focus to see it.
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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2009, 10:05:21 PM »

Wow, isn't it sad that you were forced by our PC society to launch into that apologetic rant to prove that you're not a racist? All you did was give your (valid)  opinion, but because "black people" were mentioned, you automatically stepped into the racism minefield.

Lets face it.  If the races were reversed, this would become a MAJOR story about racism.  It wouldn't be tolerated for 5 minutes.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  AFAIC, racism is racism, regardless of the race of the "perpetrators" or the "victims".

My thoughts exactly.
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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2009, 02:27:14 AM »

Obamanoids on other political message boards are in total denial.  They still believe the "angry mobs of disgruntled racist neocons engaging in astro-turfing" talking point.

In their own minds, they actually believe that all but a select few offer their full support for this government healthcare takeover.  I just can't see this fraud holding together much longer. 
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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2009, 06:26:28 AM »

Just like the Black Panthers who were caught intimidating voters in Philadelphia, but yet the DOJ dropped the charges against them.

Can you imagine what will happen if Obama's brownshirts get entrenched in positions of power?


uuuugggghhh, they were not black panthers, they were paid government agents.

The Black Panthers were a patriotic group of socially conscious activists who defended the constitution and all downtrodden americans irrespective of race.

The fake new black pabthers are f**king government assholes.

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Huey Newton is rolling in his grave with disgust.  The Black Panther Party was founded on the principles of individual constitutional rights including (and at that time quite important) the individual right to defend against injustice.  Huey Newton knew the gun laws up and down and was fanatical about obeying the gun laws and being secure in his gun ownership and gun use (the point of many gun laws is for individuals to get so scarred that they stop using guns altogether).
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There Is No New Black Panther Party: An Open Letter From the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation
http://www.blackpanther.org/newsalert.htm

In response from numerous requests from individual's seeking information on the "New Black Panthers," the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation issues this public statement to correct the distorted record being made in the media by a small band of African Americans calling themselves the New Black Panthers. As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group's exploitation of the Party's name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party's name upon itself, which we condemn.

Firstly, the people in the New Black Panthers were never members of the Black Panther Party and have no legitimate claim on the Party's name. On the contrary, they would steal the names and pretend to walk in the footsteps of the Party's true heroes, such as Black Panther founder Huey P. Newton, George Jackson and Jonathan Jackson, Bunchy Carter, John Huggins, Fred Hampton, Mark Cark, and so many others who gave their very lives to the black liberation struggle under the Party's banner.

Secondly, they denigrate the Party's name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded. Their alleged media assault on the Ku Klux Klan serves to incite hatred rather than resolve it. The Party's fundamental principle, as best articulated by the great revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, was: "A true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love." The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the "white establishment." The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people.

Furthermore, this group claims it would "teach" the black community about armed self-defense. The arrogance of this claim is overwhelmed by its reactionary nature. Blacks, especially in the South, have been armed in self-defense for a very long time; indeed, the spiritual parent of the Party itself was the Louisiana-based Deacons for Defense. However, the Party understood that the gun was not necessarily revolutionary, for the police and all other oppressive forces had guns. It was the ideology behind the gun that determined its nature.

Because the Party believed that only the masses of people would make the revolution, the Party never presumed itself to be above the people. The Party considered itself a servant of the people and taught by example. Given massive black hunger, the Party provided free breakfast for children and other free food programs. In the absence of decent medical facilities in the black community, the Party operated free medical clinics. In the face of police brutality, the Party stood up and resisted. Considering the overwhelming number of blacks facing trials and long prison terms, the Party developed free legal aids and bussing-to-prison programs.

The question the Foundation raises, then, is who are these people laying claim to the Party's history and name? Are they reactionary provocateurs, who would instigate activities counterproductive to the people's interests, causing mayhem and death? Are they entertainers, who would posture themselves before the media, and, according to numerous sources, with empty guns, to spin gold for themselves? Are they, given the history of their late-leader Khalid Muhammad, a group of anti-Semites like the very Ku Klux Klan they allegedly oppose? What is their agenda?

Conditions for blacks in America today are worse than when the Black Panther Party was formed in 1966. Blacks in the main continue to live in poverty; disproportionate percentages of blacks die from AIDS and cancer, as the black infant mortality rate continues to be double that of whites. There is a desperate need for liberation agenda. The Black Panther Party unarguably set the example, espousing principles and a history that certainly should be embraced by all those still struggling for freedom. Rather than appropriating the Party's name, however, groups that purport to represent African Americans ought to follow the Party's true historical example. In the absence of such commitment, the Foundation denounces the usurpation of the Black Panther Party name by this questionable band of self-appointed leaders.

For further reading on the Black Panther Party, please visit our website at www.blackpanther.org. Books by and about the Black Panthers can also be purchased online through this site. Suggested reading includes Revolutionary Suicide, To Die for the People, War Against the Panthers, This Side of Glory, and A Taste of Power.
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Item 7 of The Black Panther Party Platform (1972)
http://www.stanford.edu/group/blackpanthers/history.shtml
We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of Black people, other people of color, all oppressed people inside the United States. We believe that the racist and fascist government of the United States uses its domestic enforcement agencies to carry out its program of oppression against Black people, other people of color and poor people inside the United States. We believe it is our right, therefore, to defend ourselves against such armed forces, and that all Black and oppressed people should be armed for self-defense of our homes and communities against these fascist police forces.
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Huey Newton and the Black Panthers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_P._Newton

Newton and Seale decided early on that the police abuse of power in Oakland against African-Americans 'must be stopped.' From his law studies at college, Newton was well-versed in the California penal code and state law regarding weapons, and was thus able to persuade a number of African-Americans to exercise their legal right to openly bear arms (as concealed firearms were illegal). Black Panthers bearing rifles and shotguns began patrolling areas where the Oakland police were said to commit racially-motivated crimes against the community's black citizens. The street patrols had broad support in the local African-American community. Newton and Seale were also responsible for writing the Black Panther Party Platform and Program, derived largely from Newton’s Maoist influences. Newton was instrumental in the creation of a breakfast program feeding hundreds of children of the local communities before they went to school each day. Former Panther Earl Anthony (black panther) said the party was originally created to prepare America for an armed Maoist revolution in order to change the social structure for the benefit of black people. For Black Panthers, this meant the realignment of domestic economic policies to benefit citizens (including those of other races), who were being crushed under the weight of corporate America.

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