George Sodini: What the media doesn’t want you to read

[cryosteel]

The story of George Sodini is sad but fascinating.  I agree that memoirs and personal diaries of the supposedly deranged should not be removed from the web (as was done by Mr. Sodini’s web host) simply because he ended up randomly killing a bunch of people.

That's censorship of a post hoc / slippery slope nature: "if you read it, you might do it too." "If you appreciate heavy metal, you might worship satan." "If you smoke dope, you'll end up a crackhead."

It's all tied in to our underlying philosophy of social determinism, where memetic mind control shapes everyone as if they were soft clay cast from the same mold rather than 80% sheep, 15% shepherds, 5% farmers.

He lived his life in silent torture, cursing the world around him, yet still able to muster up good social graces, a good job, and maintain an appearance of calm servitude to the society around him.  Kind of like Patrick Bateman in American Psycho, actually, when you read the whole thing – particularly the ending.

http://www.amerika.org/2009/social-reality/george-sodini-what-the-media-doesnt-want-you-to-read/

Usually when you visit the gym, you don't expect to get shot at by an armed maniac. Well, people at the LA Fitness gym learned their lesson after George Sodini stormed in and began shooting women down at a Latino dance lesson. Just like with the Jokela and Kauhajoki school shootings, liberals remain silent instead of pointing to the core reasons of why fragile individuals today feel the urge to commit massacres. As always, we've got the story, straight out of Sodini's own personal diary:

http://www.corrupt.org/news/why_george_sodini_became_a_mass_killer

The above are two points of view that mainstream journalists, typically communications and not philosophy majors, are unable to give you.

[Unintelligable Name]

"that people like George Sodini may not do what they do if our values as a society were different"

Sorry but no. I'm a perfectly healthy mentally sound person living in the same society as this guy -- and I don't go shooting up rooms full of innocent defenseless women, plotting about it for months "fantasizing."

Blame the Individual -- he has free will, he's not a robot that only acts on input. His choice was to kill himself and others -- like a total twat.

[cryosteel]

I think it's more a case of someone who originally wanted to reach out to others in a positive manner and his local environs - cutthroat corporate competition in the midst of layoffs - closed off that option. How out of place are acts of unconditional love in a total dog-eat-dog setting? Very, actually.

Put another way: you gotta go, bad, but all the restrooms are out of order and you're too ashamed to release in the crowded public space all around. Eventually, the toxins build up, you sicken and vomit / other ugly expulsion. In other words, he was equipped with something natural and healthy inside at some point (internal values), but its release was impossible (external society out of order) so it corrupted his soul over the years until its outlet was vile and explosive.

His isn't the only case. The free will explanations are bunk because they give us no cause to effect path, as if they formed in a vacuum like a magic trick.

[Unintelligable Name]

The free will explanations are bunk because they give us no cause to effect path, as if they formed in a vacuum like a magic trick.

The sentiment of a Skinner, probably picked up via State Education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_behaviorism

I cannot argue with such an opinion and expect to get anywhere. Simply know where I stand -- and that your ideas are in fact opposed.

[cryosteel]

This isn't radical behaviourism and wikipedia, the encyclopedia ANYONE can edit, has zero credibility. Sodini's story is an interaction of intrinsic and extrinsic pressures. His was an extreme case of pressures: an intelligent, educated IT guy with a lot to give as evidenced by his successful employment record, and a liberal democratic society predictably in the throes of its collapse lifecycle phase, not "progress".

[Unintelligable Name]

Ok you don't like Wikipedia. Go down to the Library, and read Skinner.