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« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2009, 12:33:45 PM »

Now you're accusing me of using Bill Clinton emotionalization defense??? WTF?Huh First you accused some other guy of promoting NWO fear just because he believes this birther situation is a trap and now you accuse me of not caring enough about 9/11? Folks this is all coming from a guy that MODERATES Alex Jones prison planet forum. You are not allowed to disagree with this individual!!! It's not acceptable !!! wtf

why are your panties in a bunch.

I said that you seem to be hypocritical because you are preaching that we are not spending time on 9/11 truth because we are spending time on exposing Obama's secrecy. I gave evidence to this hypocricy. You went section 8 nutso by not debating the evidence but instead pulling the Bill Clinton "how dare you" defense.  I then exposed that (even after you called me an asshole).  Now you are going completely nuts rather than engaging in a sound debate based on evidence.  What gives dude? Why not just debate the facts, what is with all of the irrational emotional outbursts?
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« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2009, 12:38:48 PM »

That's not an admission, man. That's a "what if" scenario outlining would would happen IF Obama were not eligible. Just be careful with this stuff.

Be careful with this stuff?

What are you talking about?

Could you elaborate?

This is an FBI connected PhD explaining that it is his opinion that Obama is probably not eligible and will refuse to provide documents (most likely because they do not exist).

This information has been disclosed for a few months and no one thought much of it at the time, but now it is clear what this is about.

And I used the word probably, you are the one saying "where the FBI undeniably said that Obama was ineligible?"

I did not say that, it says probably. So again what are you saying to be careful about? [Again all of this fear, are we in fricking KGB Soviet Union?  Why is everyone demanding to STFU about Obama's secrecy of government?]



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« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2009, 12:43:51 PM »

If Obama is ineligible, then all of his appointments and laws he signed would be null and void. And it would also make Biden's election as VP null and void. End result? You would either have President McCain and VP Palin, or they would have to redo the election, only with Hillary against McCain. In the case of the latter, Hillary Clinton would probably be the next president. Either way, there will be mass protests, and either McCain or Clinton will send agents provocateur to instigate riots and declare martial law total lockdown.

I doubt it, the presidency would just transfer to the Vice President, and he would just affirm everything obama has done. That is why the birth certificate issue is a no win situation, and will have no tangible results. However I believed it should be pursued just to uphold the constitution alone, but I don't know enouph about it, so I will just make excuses and continue being a keyboard warrior  Cool.
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« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2009, 12:44:58 PM »

I'm not telling you to STFU about it. I'm telling you to be careful about it. Don't jump at every story and automatically begin going on a truth crusade because you think you have the lead, story or opinion that puts the nail in the coffin.

Seriously though...I think missed the part in that article (I'm not reading it again for the 8th time) where the FBI connected PhD explained that he was PROBABLY not eligible. I'll definitely back down if I'm not correct.
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« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2009, 12:50:58 PM »

That's not an admission, man. That's a "what if" scenario outlining would would happen IF Obama were not eligible. Just be careful with this stuff.

I am sure the FBI spends their time considering what if scenarios on things they could quickly vet themselves.
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« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2009, 12:52:04 PM »

I doubt it, the presedency would just to the VP, and he would just affirm everything obama has done. That is why the birth certificate issue is a no win situation, and will have no tangible results. However I believed it should be pursued just to uphold the constitution alone, but I don't know enouph about it, so I will just make excuses and continue being a keyboard warrior  Cool.

If Biden knew Obama was not eligible to be President, then he is a co-conspirator, and therefore, should be removed from office as well. Ditto any Democrat in the House or the Senate that knew a fraud was taking place...maybe even any Republican too. This would be a decapitation of politics in this country as we know it, so we must take the matter very seriously.
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« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2009, 12:52:31 PM »

I'm not telling you to STFU about it. I'm telling you to be careful about it. Don't jump at every story and automatically begin going on a truth crusade because you think you have the lead, story or opinion that puts the nail in the coffin.

Seriously though...I think missed the part in that article (I'm not reading it again for the 8th time) where the FBI connected PhD explained that he was PROBABLY not eligible. I'll definitely back down if I'm not correct.

Look, you may be right and the title could be better, please offer suggestions.  And anyone who believes anything i post without double/triple checking it first is a moron (which you obviously are not). That is why I try to provide as much information and the original links so tat people can correct me whenever I make one of my at least 5 mistakes a day. But please consider the following:

I mean why else would the FBI issue this warning? They did not issue a warning about other stuff, they specifically picked this issue, what do they know?  This is a very important area of inquiry that wwe should all be engaged in. Besides the fact that that we have no idea why CACI and Kroll have teamed up with Infragard with "shoot to kill" orders.

Isn't anyone concerned that we have private mercenaries training stasi forces in the US with "shoot to kill" orders?  Isn't that something that we should "be careful" about?

[NOTE: Pics are not part of the article but are used to bring awareness to the seriousness of this situation. Don't you wish CNN was this honest with their reporting?]

EXPOSED: FBI program preparing businesses for martial law
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_program_alleged_to_prepare_businesses_0208.html
Michael Roston Published: Friday February 8, 2008



A public-private partnership program on infrastructure preparedness and protection run by the Federal Bureau of Investigation allegedly has briefed its corporate members on the possibility of martial law and the use of lethal force, according to an exclusive report in the magazine The Progressive.



"One business owner in the United States tells me that InfraGard members are being advised on how to prepare for a martial law situation—and what their role might be," writes Matthew Rothschild in the Feb. 7 report, quoting an anonymous whistleblower on the program. "'Then they said when—not if—martial law is declared, it was our responsibility to protect our portion of the infrastructure, and if we had to use deadly force to protect it, we couldn’t be prosecuted,' he says."



Rothschild's report details InfraGard, a program set up between the FBI and a number of businesses engaged in maintaining elements of "critical national infrastructure," such as agriculture, banking and finance, the chemical industry, defense, energy, food, information and telecommunications, law enforcement, public health, and transportation. The program's 23,000-plus members provide information to the FBI and in turn receive privileged information from the FBI on threats to infrastructure.



In one case, Rothschild expalined, InfraGard members appeared to get details on a threat to California's bridges prior to then-Gov. Gray Davis. The California governor was informed by his brother Barry, a banker, of the danger potentially faced by the state's residents.

"I was on the phone with my brother, who is an investment banker. And if he knows, why shouldn’t the public know?" Davis' former press secretary Steve Maviglio quotes the governor as saying, according to Rothschild.



The FBI called accusations of deputizing businesses to shoot-to-kill in emergency situations "ridiculous."

“If you want to quote a businessperson saying that, knock yourself out. If that’s what you want to print, fine," a spokeswoman for the bureau told Rothschild.

The full article can be read at the Progressive's website.
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« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2009, 12:54:10 PM »

If Biden knew Obama was not eligible to be President, then he is a co-conspirator, and therefore, should be removed from office as well. Ditto any Democrat in the House or the Senate that knew a fraud was taking place...maybe even any Republican too. This would be a decapitation of politics in this country as we know it, so we must take the matter very seriously.

I think that is wishful thinking, I don't believe its the running mates jobs to do the background check on the president. Who's job is that anyways, really, I am asking out of ignorance.
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« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2009, 12:54:36 PM »

If Biden knew Obama was not eligible to be President, then he is a co-conspirator, and therefore, should be removed from office as well. Ditto any Democrat in the House or the Senate that knew a fraud was taking place...maybe even any Republican too. This would be a decapitation of politics in this country as we know it, so we must take the matter very seriously.

CORRECTOMUNDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This will expose the fake 2 party system and allow for a 3rd party to emerge.

That is something that we should be understanding.  We already have way over 50% of the house that have signed onto HR1207, who knows maybe that could be a good place to start. Or grass roots candidates that have the faith of their locales.

I mean there is so much opportunity to get back to the constitution and have fair elections based on the will of the people rather than the will of the banksters.

What is a political party if not a conspiracy against the will of the American people?
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« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2009, 12:56:40 PM »

Sometimes you have to use critical thinking to realize what these articles are really telling you. Of course the FBI isn't going to flatly state that Obama is probably not a natural born citizen but you should be connecting the dots and using context to ask yourself, "what is this really saying?"

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« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2009, 12:57:42 PM »

I think that is wishful thinking, I don't believe its the running mates jobs to do the background check on the president. Who's job is that anyways, really, I am asking out of ignorance.

Well, probably wishful thinking...but the question of any high-level Democrat would have to be asked...what did you know, when did you know it? Can't leave any possible co-conspirators in place in the event the matter became Articles of Impeachment in the House or an Impeachment Trial in the senate. You remove from the bottom up, not the top down..or so I think.
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« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2009, 01:00:08 PM »

Well, probably wishful thinking...but the question of any high-level Democrat would have to be asked...what did you know, when did you it? Can't leave any possible co-conspirators in place in the event the matter became Articles of Impeachment in the House or an Impeachment Trial in the senate. You remove from the bottom up, not the top down..or so I think.

And that is why Lord Rothschild and Queen Elizabeth are saying "SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!" This has litle to do with the Obama puppet and much more to do with the banksters control over our entire government.
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« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2009, 01:02:45 PM »

WHAT ELSE IS OBAMA SECRET ABOUT (VA? Healthcare? What are the puppetmasters hiding?)

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Reporter working on story critical of VA has his equipment confiscated by Obama's Feds
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A public radio reporter visiting a VA hospital earlier this week to work on a story about veterans' healthcare was stopped by government officials mid-interview, ordered to leave the hospital and had some of his recording equipment confiscated.

David Schultz, a reporter with a local NPR affliate, WAMU 88.5, was at the Veteran Affairs Hospital in Washington, DC on Tuesday night, covering a townhall meeting on the quality of minority healthcare. In the middle of an interview with one of the veterans at the meeting on the below quality healthcare he was receiving at the hospital, Schultz was told by hospital officials to halt the interview and to turn over his recording equipment.

DC radio station WTOP reports that Gloria Hairston, an internal communications specialist with the VA, was the one to order a stop to the interview.

Hairston was joined by two other VA employees and four armed guards, who stood between Schultz and the exit, in ordering the 26-year-old reporter to hand over his equipment, which included a recorder, microphone and headphones.

"She said I wouldn't be allowed to leave," Schultz told WTOP. "I became worried that I was going to get arrested.

Katie Roberts, a spokeswoman for the Department of Veterans Affairs, told the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press that Schultz refused to listen to the VA officials' request for a signed waiver by the veteran he was interview.

Schultz was able to persuade Hairston to just confiscate the memory card of his recorder, instead of all of his equipment.

When one of the veterans who had drifted over to watch the spectacle asked Schultz for his phone number, he was stopped from handing it out by Hairston.

"I started to give it to him and then [Hairston] became irate," Schultz said. "She said, 'You can't give him your phone number. You have to give me all of your equipment or I'm going to get ugly.'"

After conferring with his boss, WAMU news director Jim Asendio, by phone, Schultz handed over his memory card and left the hospital.

"I told him to give them the flash card and get out of there," Asendio said to WTOP. "I didn't want this to get out of hand."

Thus far, attempts by WAMU to retrieve the flash card from the VA have been unsuccessful.

Roberts, the VA spokeswoman, is claiming that Schultz "took advantage of the patient" he was interviewing by not correctly identifying himself as a reporter, an assertion that Schultz disagrees with. She said the VA would return the flash card if the veteran Schultz was interviewing signs a consent form.

Tuesday's incident has, unsurprisingly, not gone down well with journalists.

"When he was in the Army, the current secretary of Veterans Affairs, Gen. Eric Shinseki (USA ret.), no doubt had occasion to read the riot act to subordinate officers," writes Art Brodsky of The Huffington Post. "It's time for him to get into command mode again, and the subjects this time are his incompetent public relations staff, which created an embarrassing nightmare for an Administration dedicated to transparency and openness."
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« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2009, 01:03:15 PM »

I mean why else would the FBI issue this warning? They did not issue a warning about other stuff, they specifically picked this issue, what do they know?  This is a very important area of inquiry that wwe should all be engaged in. Besides the fact that that we have no idea why CACI and Kroll have teamed up with Infragard with "shoot to kill" orders.


That's the really scary part to me... WHY did they issue this warning. It's a rationale to declare Martial Law. Maybe this whole thing is yet another way to justify Martial Law...

The Nazi Seizure of Power: The Experience of a Single German Town, 1922-1945, by William Sheridan Allen.

This book reads like a blueprint for things we see happening now... and perhaps things to come.
From this book, timely information I think --

The Nazi Seizure of Power: The Experience of a Single German Town, 1922-1945, by William Sheridan Allen.

Chapter: The Terror System: Spring-Summer 1933
"Cruelty impresses. Cruelty and raw force. The simple man in the street is impressed only by brutal force and ruthlessness. Terror is the most effective political means." - Adolf Hitler

..."It might have been possible for the Nazis to have created a system of terror without giveing any justification for it, but this would have been risky. Hence, one of the first things that was done was to provide an excuse for the various repressive measures. Part of the justification had already been developed - the suggestion that the Communists and Socialists planned to overthrow the state by force. This had been bolstered by the Reichstag fire. "... (p.184)

Birthers... the new "Communists and Socialists" for the justification of repressive measures?


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« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2009, 01:06:06 PM »

^ Look up CACI and Kroll and see how scary it really is.  Also look up Clinton's IGI and Larry Potts...same business.
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« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2009, 01:07:02 PM »

And that is why Lord Rothschild and Queen Elizabeth are saying "SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!" This has litle to do with the Obama puppet and much more to do with the banksters control over our entire government.

And that probably explains why they try and restrain the argument to Obama's birth certificate. They don't even look at Obama's father, who would have had to have been an American citizen to make Obama a natural born citizen, unless I'm missing something.
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« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2009, 01:08:14 PM »

With this issue I have seen a lot of talk about it opening a path for a 3rd party. People are hoping for it thinking its a 3rd party would be "for the people"... be careful what you wish for. A 3rd party is not necessarily a good thing.... depending on how this game is being played. KWIM?
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« Reply #57 on: August 03, 2009, 01:08:34 PM »

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"I told him to give them the flash card and get out of there," Asendio said to WTOP. "I didn't want this to get out of hand."

Thus far, attempts by WAMU to retrieve the flash card from the VA have been unsuccessful.

Roberts, the VA spokeswoman, is claiming that Schultz "took advantage of the patient" he was interviewing by not correctly identifying himself as a reporter, an assertion that Schultz disagrees with. She said the VA would return the flash card if the veteran Schultz was interviewing signs a consent form.

Tuesday's incident has, unsurprisingly, not gone down well with journalists.

Jesus. Obama will invite them for a beer I bet.
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« Reply #58 on: August 03, 2009, 01:11:49 PM »

With this issue I have seen a lot of talk about it opening a path for a 3rd party. People are hoping for it thinking its a 3rd party would be "for the people"... be careful what you wish for. A 3rd party is not necessarily a good thing.... depending on how this game is being played. KWIM?

Agreed...especially with Sarah Palin positioning herself as a "free agent."
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« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2009, 01:12:46 PM »

I'm not telling you to STFU about it. I'm telling you to be careful about it. Don't jump at every story and automatically begin going on a truth crusade because you think you have the lead, story or opinion that puts the nail in the coffin.

Seriously though...I think missed the part in that article (I'm not reading it again for the 8th time) where the FBI connected PhD explained that he was PROBABLY not eligible. I'll definitely back down if I'm not correct.

Let's play a game of:  "Graduating from Discernment level 101, to Master's Degree, to PH.D.":

Authored by Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki, Protective Intelligence Specialist and Agent, the report summarizes the substance of legal challenges to Obama on the question of his constitutional eligibility and concludes that if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid."

INSERT:  HOW CAN SOMETHING BE "DISCOVERED" IF THE "OFFICIAL GOVT./MSM STORY" IS TRUE?

It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a flashpoint that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security."

See that word:  "test"?  I seem to remember Biden saying Obama was going to be tested-interesting coincidence there, but that's not the main thing.

Upon the recommendation of the Army's Strategic Studies Institute

WTF?  Is this a military version of the CSIS:?  Who the f*ck are the general(s) in charge of this army division?  I'll bet you my ass that they are directly affiliated or take orders from with the CSIS, RAND, Cohen Group, NCOIC, or CFR.

, The Army Times reported that a somewhat euphemistically dubbed "Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF)," currently the role of the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team, but which, reportedly, might eventually comprise upwards of 80,000 troops, is being trained and readied to deal with what could be widespread civil disorder resulting from an "unforeseen economic collapse" or "loss of a functional political and legal order."

What's easier to do?  produce a birth certificate or plan out full spectrum operations with 80,000 troops over a conspiracy theory (from the govt.'s point of view--i.e., do you think the FBI regards this as a CT?  If so, then why even ENTERTAIN the possibility of prepping for martial law NOT ONLY ON the economic collapse, BUT in conjunction with a "loss of a functional political and legal order"?  ANSWER:  THE NWO MILITARY DOESN'T ENGAGE IN SUCH PREPARATIONS OVER THINGS THAT ARE BULLSHIT, THEY ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THEY REALIZE PEOPLE ARE FINDING IT OUT, AND THE REASON IT MAY SEEM HARD TO DISCERN THIS IS BECAUSE THE REPORT IS UNCLASSIFIED.

WHEN YOU READ *ANYTHING* UNCLASSIFIED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXTREMELY WELL TRAINED SENSE TO DISTILL OUT THE REAL HIDDEN MEANINGS FROM BEHIND THEIR EXTREME VAGUENESS.  IF WE HAD ACCESS TO A TOP SECRET REPORT, IT WOULD FLAT OUT TELL YOU, THAT'S WHY IT WOULD BE TOP SECRET, THAT'S HOW THE NWO WORKS.  IF THERE WAS NOTHING FOR INFRAGARD, AND BLACK OPS TO WORRY ABOUT THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE *TRAINING*, AND *READYING* FOR THIS VERY SCENARIO.
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« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2009, 01:15:03 PM »

If his birth cert is a non-issue then why is the FBI freaking out over it?

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« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2009, 01:20:55 PM »

If his birth cert is a non-issue then why is the FBI freaking out over it?

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I don't think that its a non-issue, its that its a no-win issue. However I agree with the saying "Justice be done though the heavens fall."
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« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2009, 01:22:33 PM »

With this issue I have seen a lot of talk about it opening a path for a 3rd party. People are hoping for it thinking its a 3rd party would be "for the people"... be careful what you wish for. A 3rd party is not necessarily a good thing.... depending on how this game is being played. KWIM?

You have a point, it might not be the third party we are wanting but a more nefarious one.
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« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2009, 01:22:40 PM »

If his birth cert is a non-issue then why is the FBI freaking out over it?

Jason

Simple. They know the people are getting wise to this, so they're going to have to use major league force and pretty some misdirection to shut us all up.
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What's easier to do?  produce a birth certificate or plan out full spectrum operations with 80,000 troops over a conspiracy theory (from the govt.'s point of view--i.e., do you think the FBI regards this as a CT?  If so, then why even ENTERTAIN the possibility of prepping for martial law NOT ONLY ON the economic collapse, BUT in conjunction with a "loss of a functional political and legal order"?  ANSWER:  THE NWO MILITARY DOESN'T ENGAGE IN SUCH PREPARATIONS OVER THINGS THAT ARE BULLSHIT, THEY ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THEY REALIZE PEOPLE ARE FINDING IT OUT, AND THE REASON IT MAY SEEM HARD TO DISCERN THIS IS BECAUSE THE REPORT IS UNCLASSIFIED.


This looks like we are ALL set up for what they're planning...  let the ineligible guy run/win presidency, let people find out, let them uprise - suck up all the money - then go for martial law.  This is a coup.
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« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2009, 01:30:06 PM »

You have a point, it might not be the third party we are wanting but a more nefarious one.

Wolves in sheep's clothing.
Someone who says they will right all the wrongs and set things straight that the guy with the fake birth cert did. Lots of promises. You know how the public is... they will swallow up anything basically and give up freedoms for "security"... or the false promise of security. If this country can get low enough economically and the people suffer ( vaccines, martial law, etc etc) they'll eat up any promise of relief from a shiny new 3rd party. Im afraid that Obama is just a prelude. I definitely hope not, but I see an opening here for something much worse.

Like I always say, I could just be talking out of my ass... but who knows anymore.
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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2009, 01:37:44 PM »

Let's play a game of:  "Graduating from Discernment level 101, to Master's Degree, to PH.D.":

Authored by Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki, Protective Intelligence Specialist and Agent, the report summarizes the substance of legal challenges to Obama on the question of his constitutional eligibility and concludes that if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid."

INSERT:  HOW CAN SOMETHING BE "DISCOVERED" IF THE "OFFICIAL GOVT./MSM STORY" IS TRUE?

It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a flashpoint that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security."

See that word:  "test"?  I seem to remember Biden saying Obama was going to be tested-interesting coincidence there, but that's not the main thing.

Upon the recommendation of the Army's Strategic Studies Institute

WTF?  Is this a military version of the CSIS:?  Who the f*ck are the general(s) in charge of this army division?  I'll bet you my ass that they are directly affiliated or take orders from with the CSIS, RAND, Cohen Group, NCOIC, or CFR.

, The Army Times reported that a somewhat euphemistically dubbed "Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF)," currently the role of the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team, but which, reportedly, might eventually comprise upwards of 80,000 troops, is being trained and readied to deal with what could be widespread civil disorder resulting from an "unforeseen economic collapse" or "loss of a functional political and legal order."

What's easier to do?  produce a birth certificate or plan out full spectrum operations with 80,000 troops over a conspiracy theory (from the govt.'s point of view--i.e., do you think the FBI regards this as a CT?  If so, then why even ENTERTAIN the possibility of prepping for martial law NOT ONLY ON the economic collapse, BUT in conjunction with a "loss of a functional political and legal order"?  ANSWER:  THE NWO MILITARY DOESN'T ENGAGE IN SUCH PREPARATIONS OVER THINGS THAT ARE BULLSHIT, THEY ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THEY REALIZE PEOPLE ARE FINDING IT OUT, AND THE REASON IT MAY SEEM HARD TO DISCERN THIS IS BECAUSE THE REPORT IS UNCLASSIFIED.

WHEN YOU READ *ANYTHING* UNCLASSIFIED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXTREMELY WELL TRAINED SENSE TO DISTILL OUT THE REAL HIDDEN MEANINGS FROM BEHIND THEIR EXTREME VAGUENESS.  IF WE HAD ACCESS TO A TOP SECRET REPORT, IT WOULD FLAT OUT TELL YOU, THAT'S WHY IT WOULD BE TOP SECRET, THAT'S HOW THE NWO WORKS.  IF THERE WAS NOTHING FOR INFRAGARD, AND BLACK OPS TO WORRY ABOUT THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE *TRAINING*, AND *READYING* FOR THIS VERY SCENARIO.



great post. Do you think this could be planned as a away to ignite a civil war ?  The media has been rattling the race cage recently.
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great post. Do you think this could be planned as a away to ignite a civil war ?  The media has been rattling the race cage recently.

THEY USE EVERYTHING TO INCITE CIVIL WAR!

IF A DOG SHITS ON A LEAF THEY TRY TO USE IT TO INCITE CIVIL WAR!

We must always be vigilant and expose the Rothschilds/Rockefellers as they attempt to have us turn on each other.
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« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2009, 01:47:24 PM »

"Test the mettle of this guy"

If you see it as a force multiplicator it could be sufficient to take the US out.

- swine flu false flag (no public gatherings)
- economic collapse false flag (nothing to loose)
- Obama BC false flag (race fueled civil unrest)

I hope we're all wrong in our conclusions, but this could be it.  


Main Entry:
    met·tle
Pronunciation:
    \ˈme-təl\
Function:
    noun
Etymology:
    alteration of metal
Date:
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1 a: vigor and strength of spirit or temperament b: staying quality : stamina <equipment that proved its mettle>2: quality of temperament or disposition <gentlemen of brave mettle — Shakespeare>
synonyms see courage

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« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2009, 01:54:26 PM »

"Test the meddle of this guy"

If you see it as a force multiplicator it could be sufficient to take the US out.

- swine flu false flag (no public gatherings)
- economic collapse false flag (nothing to loose)
- Obama BC false flag (race fueled civil unrest)

I hope we're all wrong in our conclusions, but this could be it.  


"Auntie M, Auntie M, it's a twister, it's a twister"

THEY USE EVERYTHING TO PROMOTE CIVIL WAR!

GLENN BECK HAS USED THE 9/12 MOVEMENT TO PROMOTE CIVIL WAR!

What about Manson/Jonestown/Tuskeegee/Vietnam/MLK/Malcolm X

The Church Commission uncovered the fact that in the 1960's 25% of all KKK members were members of the FBI or FBI assets. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.  Many times the FBI was in the fricking car that was executing Civil Rights Leaders!!!!!!

WAKE UP! THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SO LONG!

"Run away, run away from Obama's secret government because they will say you are racist."

THE ROTHSCHILDS/ROCKEFELLER ARE THE MOST RACIST GENOCIDAL PSYCOPATHS KNOWN TO MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Expose their racism, that is the true racism.

They sterilize millions of sub-human races (according to them). They manufactured AIDS and SARS! They helped the genocides in Gaza/Ukraine/China/Germany/Turkey/Iraq/Afghanistan.  These are the true racists.
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THE TRUE RACISTS AND THEIR AGENDA!

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Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a co-called “Master Race.”

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn’t originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement’s campaign for ethnic cleansing.

Eugenics was the racist pseudoscience determined to wipe away all human beings deemed “unfit,” preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in twenty-seven states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in “colonies,” and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning. Before World War II, nearly half of coercive sterilizations were done in California, and even after the war, the state accounted for a third of all such surgeries.

California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. During the Twentieth Century’s first decades, California’s eugenicists included potent but little known race scientists, such as Army venereal disease specialist Dr. Paul Popenoe, citrus magnate and Polytechnic benefactor Paul Gosney, Sacramento banker Charles M. Goethe, as well as members of the California State Board of Charities and Corrections and the University of California Board of Regents.

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America’s most respected scientists hailing from such prestigious universities as Stamford, Yale, Harvard, and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics’ racist aims.

Stanford president David Starr Jordan originated the notion of “race and blood” in his 1902 racial epistle “Blood of a Nation,” in which the university scholar declared that human qualities and conditions such as talent and poverty were passed through the blood.

In 1904, the Carnegie Institution established a laboratory complex at Cold Spring Harbor on Long Island that stockpiled millions of index cards on ordinary Americans, as researchers carefully plotted the removal of families, bloodlines and whole peoples. From Cold Spring Harbor, eugenics advocates agitated in the legislatures of America, as well as the nation’s social service agencies and associations.

The Harriman railroad fortune paid local charities, such as the New York Bureau of Industries and Immigration, to seek out Jewish, Italian and other immigrants in New York and other crowded cities and subject them to deportation, trumped up confinement or forced sterilization.

The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz.

Much of the spiritual guidance and political agitation for the American eugenics movement came from California’s quasi-autonomous eugenic societies, such as the Pasadena-based Human Betterment Foundation and the California branch of the American Eugenics Society, which coordinated much of their activity with the Eugenics Research Society in Long Island. These organizations–which functioned as part of a closely-knit network–published racist eugenic newsletters and pseudoscientific journals, such as Eugenical News and Eugenics, and propagandized for the Nazis.

Eugenics was born as a scientific curiosity in the Victorian age. In 1863, Sir Francis Galton, a cousin of Charles Darwin, theorized that if talented people only married other talented people, the result would be measurably better offspring. At the turn of the last century, Galton’s ideas were imported into the United States just as Gregor Mendel’s principles of heredity were rediscovered. American eugenic advocates believed with religious fervor that the same Mendelian concepts determining the color and size of peas, corn and cattle also governed the social and intellectual character of man.

In an America demographically reeling from immigration upheaval and torn by post-Reconstruction chaos, race conflict was everywhere in the early twentieth century. Elitists, utopians and so-called “progressives” fused their smoldering race fears and class bias with their desire to make a better world. They reinvented Galton’s eugenics into a repressive and racist ideology. The intent: populate the earth with vastly more of their own socio-economic and biological kind–and less or none of everyone else.

The superior species the eugenics movement sought was populated not merely by tall, strong, talented people. Eugenicists craved blond, blue-eyed Nordic types. This group alone, they believed, was fit to inherit the earth. In the process, the movement intended to subtract emancipated Negroes, immigrant Asian laborers, Indians, Hispanics, East Europeans, Jews, dark-haired hill folk, poor people, the infirm and really anyone classified outside the gentrified genetic lines drawn up by American raceologists.

How? By identifying so-called “defective” family trees and subjecting them to lifelong segregation and sterilization programs to kill their bloodlines. The grand plan was to literally wipe away the reproductive capability of those deemed weak and inferior–the so-called “unfit.” The eugenicists hoped to neutralize the viability of 10 percent of the population at a sweep, until none were left except themselves.

Eighteen solutions were explored in a Carnegie-supported 1911 “Preliminary Report of the Committee of the Eugenic Section of the American Breeder’s Association to Study and to Report on the Best Practical Means for Cutting Off the Defective Germ-Plasm in the Human Population.” Point eight was euthanasia.

The most commonly suggested method of eugenicide in America was a “lethal chamber” or public locally operated gas chambers. In 1918, Popenoe, the Army venereal disease specialist during World War I, co-wrote the widely used textbook, Applied Eugenics, which argued, “From an historical point of view, the first method which presents itself is execution… Its value in keeping up the standard of the race should not be underestimated.” Applied Eugenics also devoted a chapter to “Lethal Selection,” which operated “through the destruction of the individual by some adverse feature of the environment, such as excessive cold, or bacteria, or by bodily deficiency.”

Eugenic breeders believed American society was not ready to implement an organized lethal solution. But many mental institutions and doctors practiced improvised medical lethality and passive euthanasia on their own. One institution in Lincoln, Illinois fed its incoming patients milk from tubercular cows believing a eugenically strong individual would be immune. Thirty to forty percent annual death rates resulted at Lincoln. Some doctors practiced passive eugenicide one newborn infant at a time. Others doctors at mental institutions engaged in lethal neglect.

Nonetheless, with eugenicide marginalized, the main solution for eugenicists was the rapid expansion of forced segregation and sterilization, as well as more marriage restrictions. California led the nation, performing nearly all sterilization procedures with little or no due process. In its first twenty-five years of eugenic legislation, California sterilized 9,782 individuals, mostly women. Many were classified as “bad girls,” diagnosed as “passionate,” “oversexed” or “sexually wayward.” At Sonoma, some women were sterilized because of what was deemed an abnormally large clitoris or labia.

In 1933 alone, at least 1,278 coercive sterilizations were performed, 700 of which were on women. The state’s two leading sterilization mills in 1933 were Sonoma State Home with 388 operations and Patton State Hospital with 363 operations. Other sterilization centers included Agnews, Mendocino, Napa, Norwalk, Stockton and Pacific Colony state hospitals.

Even the United States Supreme Court endorsed aspects of eugenics. In its infamous 1927 decision, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote, “It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…. Three generations of imbeciles are enough.” This decision opened the floodgates for thousands to be coercively sterilized or otherwise persecuted as subhuman. Years later, the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials quoted Holmes’s words in their own defense.

Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws. He tried to legitimize his anti-Semitism by medicalizing it, and wrapping it in the more palatable pseudoscientific facade of eugenics. Hitler was able to recruit more followers among reasonable Germans by claiming that science was on his side. While Hitler’s race hatred sprung from his own mind, the intellectual outlines of the eugenics Hitler adopted in 1924 were made in America.

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During the ’20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany’s fascist eugenicists. In Mein Kampf, published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. “There is today one state,” wrote Hitler, “in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States.”

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. “I have studied with great interest,” he told a fellow Nazi, “the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”

Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenic leader Madison Grant calling his race-based eugenics book, The Passing of the Great Race his “bible.”

Hitler’s struggle for a superior race would be a mad crusade for a Master Race. Now, the American term “Nordic” was freely exchanged with “Germanic” or “Aryan.” Race science, racial purity and racial dominance became the driving force behind Hitler’s Nazism. Nazi eugenics would ultimately dictate who would be persecuted in a Reich-dominated Europe, how people would live, and how they would die. Nazi doctors would become the unseen generals in Hitler’s war against the Jews and other Europeans deemed inferior. Doctors would create the science, devise the eugenic formulas, and even hand-select the victims for sterilization, euthanasia and mass extermination.

During the Reich’s early years, eugenicists across America welcomed Hitler’s plans as the logical fulfillment of their own decades of research and effort. California eugenicists republished Nazi propaganda for American consumption. They also arranged for Nazi scientific exhibits, such as an August 1934 display at the L.A. County Museum, for the annual meeting of the American Public Health Association.

In 1934, as Germany’s sterilizations were accelerating beyond 5,000 per month, the California eugenics leader C. M. Goethe upon returning from Germany ebulliently bragged to a key colleague, “You will be interested to know, that your work has played a powerful part in shaping the opinions of the group of intellectuals who are behind Hitler in this epoch-making program. Everywhere I sensed that their opinions have been tremendously stimulated by American thought.…I want you, my dear friend, to carry this thought with you for the rest of your life, that you have really jolted into action a great government of 60 million people.”

That same year, ten years, after Virginia passed its sterilization act, Joseph DeJarnette, superintendent of Virginia’s Western State Hospital, observed in the Richmond Times-Dispatch, “The Germans are beating us at our own game.”

More than just providing the scientific roadmap, America funded Germany’s eugenic institutions. By 1926, Rockefeller had donated some $410,000 — almost $4 million in 21st-Century money — to hundreds of German researchers. In May 1926, Rockefeller awarded $250,000 to the German Psychiatric Institute of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, later to become the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry. Among the leading psychiatrists at the German Psychiatric Institute was Ernst Rüdin, who became director and eventually an architect of Hitler’s systematic medical repression.

Another in the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute’s eugenic complex of institutions was the Institute for Brain Research. Since 1915, it had operated out of a single room. Everything changed when Rockefeller money arrived in 1929. A grant of $317,000 allowed the Institute to construct a major building and take center stage in German race biology. The Institute received additional grants from the Rockefeller Foundation during the next several years. Leading the Institute, once again, was Hitler’s medical henchman Ernst Rüdin. Rüdin’s organization became a prime director and recipient of the murderous experimentation and research conducted on Jews, Gypsies and others.

Beginning in 1940, thousands of Germans taken from old age homes, mental institutions and other custodial facilities were systematically gassed. Between 50,000 and 100,000 were eventually killed.

Leon Whitney, executive secretary of the American Eugenics Society declared of Nazism, “While we were pussy-footing around…the Germans were calling a spade a spade.”

A special recipient of Rockefeller funding was the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Human Heredity and Eugenics in Berlin. For decades, American eugenicists had craved twins to advance their research into heredity. The Institute was now prepared to undertake such research on an unprecedented level. On May 13, 1932, the Rockefeller Foundation in New York dispatched a radiogram to its Paris office: JUNE MEETING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER THREE YEAR PERIOD TO KWG INSTITUTE ANTHROPOLOGY FOR RESEARCH ON TWINS AND EFFECTS ON LATER GENERATIONS OF SUBSTANCES TOXIC FOR GERM PLASM.

At the time of Rockefeller’s endowment, Otmar Freiherr von Verschuer, a hero in American eugenics circles, functioned as a head of the Institute for Anthropology, Human Heredity and Eugenics. Rockefeller funding of that Institute continued both directly and through other research conduits during Verschuer’s early tenure. In 1935, Verschuer left the Institute to form a rival eugenics facility in Frankfurt that was much heralded in the American eugenic press. Research on twins in the Third Reich exploded, backed up by government decrees. Verschuer wrote in Der Erbarzt, a eugenic doctor’s journal he edited, that Germany’s war would yield a “total solution to the Jewish problem.”

Verschuer had a long-time assistant. His name was Josef Mengele. On May 30, 1943, Mengele arrived at Auschwitz. Verschuer notified the German Research Society, “My assistant, Dr. Josef Mengele (M.D., Ph.D.) joined me in this branch of research. He is presently employed as Hauptsturmführer [captain] and camp physician in the Auschwitz concentration camp. Anthropological testing of the most diverse racial groups in this concentration camp is being carried out with permission of the SS Reichsführer [Himmler].”

Mengele began searching the boxcar arrivals for twins. When he found them, he performed beastly experiments, scrupulously wrote up the reports and sent the paperwork back to Verschuer’s institute for evaluation. Often, cadavers, eyes and other body parts were also dispatched to Berlin’s eugenic institutes.

Rockefeller executives never knew of Mengele. With few exceptions, the foundation had ceased all eugenic studies in Nazi-occupied Europe before the war erupted in 1939. But by that time the die had been cast. The talented men Rockefeller and Carnegie financed, the institutions they helped found, and the science it helped create took on a scientific momentum of their own.

After the war, eugenics was declared a crime against humanity–an act of genocide. Germans were tried and they cited the California statutes in their defense. To no avail. They were found guilty.

However, Mengele’s boss Verschuer escaped prosecution. Verschuer re-established his connections with California eugenicists who had gone underground and renamed their crusade “human genetics.” Typical was an exchange July 25, 1946 when Popenoe wrote Verschuer, “It was indeed a pleasure to hear from you again. I have been very anxious about my colleagues in Germany…. I suppose sterilization has been discontinued in Germany?” Popenoe offered tidbits about various American eugenic luminaries and then sent various eugenic publications. In a separate package, Popenoe sent some cocoa, coffee and other goodies.

Verschuer wrote back, “Your very friendly letter of 7/25 gave me a great deal of pleasure and you have my heartfelt thanks for it. The letter builds another bridge between your and my scientific work; I hope that this bridge will never again collapse but rather make possible valuable mutual enrichment and stimulation.”

Soon, Verschuer once again became a respected scientist in Germany and around the world. In 1949, he became a corresponding member of the newly formed American Society of Human Genetics, organized by American eugenicists and geneticists.

In the fall of 1950, the University of Münster offered Verschuer a position at its new Institute of Human Genetics, where he later became a dean. In the early and mid-1950s, Verschuer became an honorary member of numerous prestigious societies, including the Italian Society of Genetics, the Anthropological Society of Vienna, and the Japanese Society for Human Genetics.

Human genetics’ genocidal roots in eugenics were ignored by a victorious generation that refused to link itself to the crimes of Nazism and by succeeding generations that never knew the truth of the years leading up to war. Now governors of five states, including California have issued public apologies to their citizens, past and present, for sterilization and other abuses spawned by the eugenics movement.

Human genetics became an enlightened endeavor in the late twentieth century. Hard-working, devoted scientists finally cracked the human code through the Human Genome Project. Now, every individual can be biologically identified and classified by trait and ancestry. Yet even now, some leading voices in the genetic world are calling for a cleansing of the unwanted among us, and even a master human species.

There is understandable wariness about more ordinary forms of abuse, for example, in denying insurance or employment based on genetic tests. On October 14, America’s first genetic anti-discrimination legislation passed the Senate by unanimous vote. Yet because genetics research is global, no single nation’s law can stop the threats.
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« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2009, 02:09:52 PM »

WHO ARE THE REAL RACISTS?

Clinton/Rockefeller/Rothschild's minions spread rumors about other people and movements, but the NWO requires the most explaining.


Hey New Republic, CNN, Huffington, MSNBC...

Does he have to answer for this very personalized "newsletter" which is in his handwriting?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1911072/posts (linked NY Post article was ordered to be deleted by Rupert Murdoch, go figure.)
A RACIALLY insensitive moment from Bill Clinton's boyhood is coming back to haunt him. It's a postcard the future president sent his grandma Edith Cassidy in 1966 showing a black youth eagerly polishing a gigantic watermelon, titled "Hope, Arkansas - Home of the World's Largest Watermelon." Clinton, 19 at the time and a sophomore at Georgetown University, wrote: "Dear Mammaw, Thought I would send you one of your cards just to prove I'm using them! My tests are over and I'm just starting the second term. Hope you are well and happy . . . Love, Bill." Online auction house rrauction.com, which is selling the card Wednesday, calls it "a throwback to the outrageously broad portrayals of African-Americans of a century earlier." It notes Clinton wrote it "in the midst of the most active civil-rights movement in American history," and would go on to become "one of the greatest champions of racial minorities among modern American presidents." A Clinton spokesman didn't get back to us.



"Thought I would send you one of your cards just to prove I'm using them!"

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Bill and Hillary Clinton Hate Black People
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« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2009, 02:11:54 PM »

I wanted to comment on the fear mongering that is posted here about possible things to happen should Obama be found ineligible for his poisition in office as President!  Anyone that is giving reasons or scary scenearios about all of this I would ask.. Is it better just to allow somone to lie and steal their way into the postion of President of this country? Is all hell breaking loose in this counrty a reason just to allow him to continue or is justice more important? If justice is not important then just lie down, keep your mouth shut and allow them to do whatever they want even if it is taking your life and the life of your loved ones because you fear some fantum outcome!  Truth is.. Not one knows for certain what would happen so   why r u putting out the same fearmongering that the media is playing out? All that does is to serve to keep someone in and further damage our constitution! Are u brave enough to stand for the constitution or does it matter anymore?  Does the idea of something that may or could happen  make u decide that it is not worth fighting for?  Then we have some that say well  everything he has done will have to be null and void and we could be without a government body.. And u believe that having a corrupt governing body is better than none at all when we know the one we have now is doing their best to destroy this nation? So do u prefer one that is dead set on selling out and destroying this country rather than none at all for a short period of time? It's your choice...So what do u do? Do u stand for right or cower and say..Oh were defeated no matter what we do .. they win because we can't survive without them even if they are corrupt! We cant have them locked away and put in jail or even ask for justice because we need them! This is akin to the same mentality of the bailouts where they said that some were just to big to allow them to fail! Well if u believe that then why even try to fight at all. Just lie down and let them have their way! If they choose to kill u and ur family oh well! Nothing u can do about it .. right?   I myself am willing to let the cards fall where they may and deal with the results! That is the only way to change what has been happening and to stop the dictators! Stop your fearing that is how they win!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2009, 02:13:33 PM »

Remember when Politico accused Ron Paul of being Racist and to stop supporting him or there will be a race war?

THIS IS THE SAME THING!!!

THEY ALWAYS THREATEN RACE WAR OVER NON_RACIAL ISSUES!

They did not stop Glenn Beck from actually promoting a real race war (because they want a real race war). Instead they say movements that will prevent theiir plan for a race war will cause a race war.  This issue will stop their propaganda engines that are used to divide based on race/social status/nationality/etc. It is becoming so obviouls. Through the looking glass people, up is down, down is up.
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« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2009, 02:18:49 PM »

Sane,
Do you mean a black VS white race war? If so, what about us "other" races?  Smiley



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« Reply #75 on: August 03, 2009, 02:20:39 PM »

If the American people don't unite across party and ideological lines and start demanding -- not requesting, DEMANDING -- that Congress immediately implement urgently-needed public policy reforms (monetary reform especially), then the day is fast approaching when it simply won't matter whether Obama was born in the U.S. or not, because there will no longer be a U.S.

       http://propagandamatrix.com/forum/index.php/topic,5221.0.html

And when I say "fast approaching," I mean less than a year from now!
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« Reply #76 on: August 03, 2009, 02:27:52 PM »

If the American people don't unite across party and ideological lines and start demanding -- not requesting, DEMANDING -- that Congress immediately implement urgently-needed public policy reforms (monetary reform especially), then the day is fast approaching when it simply won't matter whether Obama was born in the U.S. or not, because there will no longer be a U.S.

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And when I say "fast approaching," I mean less than a year from now!

Absolutely. Baffle us with peripheral issues ( even if they are valid)  while they burn the barn down.
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« Reply #77 on: August 03, 2009, 02:36:22 PM »

If the American people don't unite across party and ideological lines and start demanding -- not requesting, DEMANDING -- that Congress immediately implement urgently-needed public policy reforms (monetary reform especially), then the day is fast approaching when it simply won't matter whether Obama was born in the U.S. or not, because there will no longer be a U.S.

       http://propagandamatrix.com/forum/index.php/topic,5221.0.html

And when I say "fast approaching," I mean less than a year from now!

Totally agree!

The fed is such an obvious issue that should unite everyone.  This Obama secrecy issue is also a major party uniter. It also is exposing so many shills it is mind boggling. And the rapid acceleration on this one is wild, Not even the $23 trillion stolen by Rockefeller/Rothschild has woken up so many than this Obama secrecy issue.
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« Reply #78 on: August 03, 2009, 02:37:58 PM »

Absolutely. Baffle us with peripheral issues ( even if they are valid)  while they burn the barn down.

Exactly! These baffling side issues and misdirections ( like saying that exposing Obama's secrecy in government will cause a race war) need to be exposed for what they are.  I mean WTF? how insane is that? It defies reality.  

Letting them burn down the constitution (barn door as you put it) would be totally nutso.
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« Reply #79 on: August 03, 2009, 02:41:36 PM »

Exactly! These baffling side issues and misdirections ( like saying that exposing Obama's secrecy in government will cause a race war) need to be exposed for what they are.  I mean WTF? how insane is that? It defies reality.  

Letting them burn down the constitution (barn door as you put it) would be totally nutso.

So what do we do? I mean we have been complacent for so damned long that its gotten completely out of hand...

I do know this much for fact.. many of our military folks arent asleep.  Wink
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