FBI admits, Obama probably NOT born in the United States of America!!!!!!!

[Dig]

http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/FBI-InfraGard-warns-of-a-crescendo-of-public-concern-about-Obamas-eligibility.aspx

Tasked by the FBI to provide "informational analysis" on conditions which could be construed as potentially harmful to civil order and national security, InfraGard, of the FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC), issued an unclassified Protective Intelligence Communication report in March 2009 regarding the "crescendo" of public concern about Obama's presidential eligibility.

Authored by Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki, Protective Intelligence Specialist and Agent, the report summarizes the substance of legal challenges to Obama on the question of his constitutional eligibility and concludes that if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid." It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a flashpoint that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security."

The stream of law suits, the most recent of which have been tendered by high ranking military officers and state legislators, to compel Obama to prove his eligibility have been unremitting and increasingly vocal. A request for "quo warranto" action, an apparent last-ditch legal remedy, was recently delivered to both the US Attorney for the District of Columbia and to the Attorney General.

Dovetailing with this unsettling assessment, and pretty much out of public view, are the following national security developments which, in their totality, could well signal acute domestic instability in the period ahead.

Upon the recommendation of the Army's Strategic Studies Institute, The Army Times reported that a somewhat euphemistically dubbed "Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF)," currently the role of the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team, but which, reportedly, might eventually comprise upwards of 80,000 troops, is being trained and readied to deal with what could be widespread civil disorder resulting from an "unforeseen economic collapse" or "loss of a functional political and legal order."

Symptomatic of festering civil unrest are the many "tea parties" springing up around the country, growing fears of economic disintegration and of both crippling terrorist attacks and even of perceived federal overreaching. Add to this the very real threat of a rogue nuclear EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) attack on the homeland which could instantaneously reduce the country to a paralytic pre-industrial condition, plus the unrest on our southern border, and there appears to be ample and justifiable cause for concern and appropriate contingency planning at every level of government.

if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid." It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation.

THE FBI IS ADMITTING THAT HE IS PROBABLY INELIGIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wvoutlaw2002]

If Obama is ineligible, then all of his appointments and laws he signed would be null and void. And it would also make Biden's election as VP null and void. End result? You would either have President McCain and VP Palin, or they would have to redo the election, only with Hillary against McCain. In the case of the latter, Hillary Clinton would probably be the next president. Either way, there will be mass protests, and either McCain or Clinton will send agents provocateur to instigate riots and declare martial law total lockdown.

[blackturtle.us]

And in related news the FBI has determined that Texas was never legally admitted as part of the USA!!! LOL  BUT seriously, what I want to know is why the guy who posted the article on his website link by IP number. Does he change the URL for his site often? (If you check out the links on the repubx.com site, they are all by IP number. That's highly unusual and, quite frankly, I find that more interesting than the information contained in the blog article!)

[Dig]

And in related news the FBI has determined that Texas was never legally admitted as part of the USA!!! LOL  BUT seriously, what I want to know is why the guy who posted the article on his website link by IP number. Does he change the URL for his site often? (If you check out the links on the repubx.com site, they are all by IP number. That's highly unusual and, quite frankly, I find that more interesting than the information contained in the blog article!)

Yeah most people with zero commitment to uncovering actual threats to the republic fail to look at the material, this is hardly a surprise.  They just give one line or two line responses like "pffffftttt nothing to see here move along". Please ignore the material from the FBI, that makes much more sense. Wow, talk about kookoo town.

MOVE ALONG! ALL IS WELL! ALL IS WELL DAMMIT!

[Dig]

Hey look at the supporting documentation, please ignore it because the website does not say "CNN"...


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LYLE J. RAPACKI, Ph.D. - Vice President of Protective Services - PPP with the FBI
Posted on March 26th, 2009 by David-Crockett
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=1309
Defend Our Freedoms Foundation published:

NOTE from Defend Our Freedoms Foundation Staff.

The below report states: “if Mr Obama fights unsealing his documentation…there will be civil unrest unleashed on the streets”

InfraGrad has a Public Private Partnership with the FBI. The PPP programs has been leveraged heavily from local to international levels to render entities back into Panopolies. The term panopoly was coined by Joseph Borkin, chief economic advisor of the Anti-trust Division of the Department of Justice circa 1943, during his investigations of I.G. Farben because the aggregation of businesses were much larger than a monopoly or cartel.

LYLE J. RAPACKI, Ph.D.

Consultant at Behavioral Analysis and Threat Assessment

Vice President of Protective Services

Diplomate: Reply:

American Academy of Forensic Counselors Southwest Risk Advisors, Inc.

American Psychotherapy Association Post Office Box 1595

Chandler, Arizona 85244

Licensed Investigator Telecommunications:

Protective Intelligence Specialist and Agent 1-866-481-7712 – office

Information Warfare Analyst 480-440-5930 – cell

ASIS – Phoenix Chapter Membership Chair LRapacki1@Hotmail.com

FBI InfraGard – Arizona

Memorandum: WHITE PAPER DISCUSSION — NOT CLASSIFIED

PROTECTIVE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNICATION PI: 126:09

NOT CLASSIFIED — PUBLIC DISSEMINATION

March the 16th, 2009

Statement of Purpose:

The content of this White Paper is deliberately intended to stimulate thought and discussion. Informational analysis comprising global security, national security of the United States of America, socio-political-economic forces as a dimension to national security, culture, freedom in human rights, defense and the rule of law are considered within the framework of this treatise.

Overview:

Beginning as campaign rhetoric, the question of Barak Obama’s legal status as a citizen of the United States of America qualified to serve as President, is moving toward a crescendo that might be heard formally by the United States Supreme Court. Downplayed by many, including U.S. Senators on the Republican side and even Senators serving on the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee as late as Friday of last week, a significant meeting occurred last Thursday, March 12th in Idaho. The Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court was speaking before a large audience (800 in attendance, including the President of the Idaho State Bar Association) on the character of Abraham Lincoln, when attorney Orly Taitz of Mission Viejo, California came to the microphone and asked the Chief Justice if he would personally review a legal brief and a complaint signed by over 325,000 American citizens as to the Constitutionality of Barak Obama’s swearing-in as President. Chief Justice Roberts personally agreed to review the legal brief and the complaint saying such in front of the audience.

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Motions to be heard on this critical Constitutional matter have been dismissed already, or not even accepted by courts in many states – New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, Washington, Texas, North Carolina to name a few. But the issue will not go away; it is morphing now to include active members of the Armed Forces serving in “Hot Zones” or theatres of combat. The legal motion handed

WHITE PAPER DISCUSSION — NOT CLASSIFIED

PROTECTIVE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNICATION PI: 126:09

March the 16th, 2009

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to the Chief Justice warns: “If MR. OBAMA is not constitutionally eligible to serve as President of the United States, then no act that he takes is, arguably, valid, the laws that he signs would not be valid, the protective orders that he signs would be null and void, and every act that he takes would be subject to legal challenge, both in the Courts of the United States of America, and in International Courts, and that, therefore, it is important for the voters to know whether he, or any candidate for President in the future, is eligible to serve in that office.”

Just prior to this meeting, attorney Taitz sent Certified Correspondence on February 27th to the U.S. Attorney General, the Director of the FBI, Congressional and Senatorial Judiciary Committee, et.al. with the stated purpose “demand for investigation and immediate action in regards suspected crimes” identified as, but not limited to: impersonation of a military officer, libel, defamation of character, harassment, interference with judicial proceedings, breaking into the computer system of the Supreme Court of the United States, forgery, using cyberspace for voter fraud. Military officers from all branches of the U.S. Armed Forces have joined in this action as Plaintiffs. Among the petitioners are: Maj. Gen. Carroll Childers; Lt. Col. Dr. David Earl-Graef; police officer and Selected Reservist Navy Commander Clinton Grimes; Lt. Scott Easterling, U.S. Army now serving on active duty in Iraq; New Hampshire state Rep. Timothy Comerford; Tenn. State Rep. Frank Nicely and others.

One of the “and others” is Harry Riley, a veteran who spent a significant time serving in the Pentagon. This former officer said the issue is basically over whether Americans will allow “the trashing” of their Constitution. “Myself, along with hundreds of thousands of other warriors, have fought for the U.S. Constitution. The whole issue is one of constitutional crisis. How can an individual become the Commander-in-Chief, or the president of the U.S., with questions regarding his constitutional qualifications?”

The complaint filed with the U.S. Attorney General (now in the hands of the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court) requests “relate Quo Warranto on Barack Hussein Obama II to test his title to president before the Supreme Court.” This legal phrase essentially means an explanation is being demanded for what authority Obama is using to act as president. This is the only judicial remedy for violations of the Constitution by public officials and agents. This legal right established in British common law 800 years ago and was recognized by the U.S. Founding Fathers to demand documentation that may prove – or disprove – Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president.

The complaint further states: “As president-elect, Respondent Obama failed to submit prima facie evidence of his qualifications before January 20, 2009. Election officers failed to challenge, validate or evaluate his qualifications. Relators submit that as president elect, Respondent Obama failed to qualify per U.S. Constitution; articles II and I; amendment XX paragraph 3.”

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What follows is the Summary of the complaint filed by Orly Taitz, attorney in Mission Viejo, California. As you can imagine, the complaint is thorough and long. I have replicated sufficient

WHITE PAPER DISCUSSION — NOT CLASSIFIED

PROTECTIVE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNICATION PI: 126:09

March the 16th, 2009

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passages so not to diminish the nature, spirit, scope or details of the complaint but conscious of time to read and length, I compiled the salient points in this complaint to save you from reading the 78 page document. I will further attest that Exhibits and articles of proof were also attached to the documents I reviewed. I will further attest the investigator working this case for attorney Taitz is a licensed Private Investigator in the State of California for the past twenty-five years, and prior to this, served twenty years as a Detective at New Scotland Yard. I will further attest that I have reviewed documents containing additional names not previously mentioned. Some of the names are active military and others are retired at Lt. Col. and above rank.

Should it be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid. If, however, this case continues and Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there are growing concerns of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a “flashpoint” that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security.

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Summary of the Complaint submitted to U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr.:

“Recently an active U.S. Army Officer, who is risking his life in defending our country in Iraq, joined my (attorney Taitz) legal action aimed at unsealing Barack Hussein Obama’s, aka Barry Soetoro’s, (Obama/Soetoro) legal status and eligibility/legitimacy for presidency of the U.S. The president needs to be a ‘natural born citizen – one who is born in the country to parents (plural, both) who are citizens of this country.

This definition was recently unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate in Senate resolution 511, presented by Senator Leahy in April 2008, as Senator McCain sought his legitimacy for the presidency to be verified, and Mr. McCain therefore presented his long version original birth certificate.

Mr. Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen; he was a citizen of Kenya here in the U.S. on a student visa, which by itself made Obama/Soetoro ineligible for presidency, regardless of whether he was born in this country or Kenya, or whether he later lost his U.S. citizenship while immigrating to Indonesia and obtaining Indonesian citizenship (by being adopted and naturalized), and later reaffirming his Indonesian citizenship while traveling on a Indonesian passport as an adult, and also most likely obtaining taxpayer funded financial aid as a Foreign Exchange student from Indonesia (Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship and any U.S. citizenship would therefore have to be relinquished). Additionally, Obama/Soetoro’s paternal grandmother, Sarah Obama, and the Ambassador from Kenya,

WHITE PAPER DISCUSSION — NOT CLASSIFIED

PROTECTIVE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNICATION PI: 126:09

March the 16th, 2009

Continued – page three

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Peter Ogego, made statements that he was born in Kenya, and there is no record of him being born in any hospital in Hawaii. HI Statute #338 allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to obtain Hawaiian Certificates of Live Birth (COLB), and those can be obtained based on a statement of one relative only.

Additionally, Forensic Document expert Sandra Line has issued an affidavit that Obama’s place of birth cannot be ascertained without reviewing the original birth certificate. Dr. Chiymoi Fukimo, director of Health Department for the State of Hawaii, issued a statement that Obama has a birth certificate on file, but intentionally refused to provide clarification, whether it is a birth certificate for a foreign born child of a Hawaiian resident, whether it was prepared based on hospital records or statement of one relative only, or whether it is an amended birth certificate, created upon Obama/Soetoro’s adoption by Lolo Soetoro, his Indonesian stepfather, and showing him a citizen of Indonesia.

There are forensic questions raised about the short version Certification of Life Birth posted by Obama/Soetoro on his web site; lacking corroborating evidence such as name of the hospital, name of the doctor, three signatures and a seal on the front of the document.

Similarly, Obama/Soetoro supporters used Cyber space previously, in order to misinform and defraud American citizens and commit voter fraud. On November 3rd, a day before the National elections, when numerous voters questioned Obama/Soetoro’s Natural Born status and his refusal to provide his long version birth certificate, an article appeared on the Internet stating that a Virginia Judge reviewed Obama/Soetoro’s original birth certificate and found it to be valid, Obama/Soetoro to be a Natural Born citizen, and all legal actions to be frivolous (Exhibit). This whole case was manufactured, and Cyber space was used, to defraud American citizens….

I am also requesting an investigation into the financial dealings of Barack and Michele Obama. Please see attached list of over 100 addresses for Barack Obama and a 100 business addresses for Michele Obama. These are addresses obtained from a private investigator and an intelligence service. Obama/Soetoro’s addresses are connected to numerous different social security numbers. None of the 130 positions listed for Michelle and Barry or Barack H. Obama were listed on their disclosed tax returns. There has to be a corresponding search for each and every employer that is listed. If those are salaried positions then, there is massive tax fraud. And if those were campaign contributions over the allowed limits then, there is massive campaign contributions fraud, especially in light of over $300 million in

WHITE PAPER DISCUSSION — NOT CLASSIFIED

PROTECTIVE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNICATION PI: 126:09

March the 16th, 2009

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contributions that are unaccounted for. Which is it? What social security numbers were used?

As you stated in your speech on Martin Luther King Day, Americans should not be ‘cowards’, particularly when matters of race are concerned. I was not a coward and prepared this large dossier, so I hope you will not be a coward and instead order an expeditious completion of this investigation and its subsequent prosecution.”

Conclusion:

Accompanying this complaint is a petition calling for an appointment of a special prosecutor similar to the one appointed during Watergate. The fact that Obama has not ordered Hawaiian officials to release the document leaves doubt as to whether an authentic Hawaii birth certificate exists. Similar concerns exist in Mr. Obama’s refusal to release student records from Occidental College in the early 80’s where he may have been a student under the name of Barry Soetero, attending the college on aid for foreign students.

The action handed to the Chief Justice is on behalf 120 military officers, many of high rank, and 9 state representatives. Purportedly the room was stunned and silent as attorney Taitz and Chief Justice Roberts engaged in an extremely brief exchange regarding these charges which led to the oral promise made by the Chief Justice to review them.

( END OF REPORT )

Lyle J. Rapacki, Ph.D.

Protective Intelligence Specialist and Agent

Information Warfare Analyst

FBI InfraGard – Arizona

[InfoTruth]

Misleading title, the FBI didn't admit anything they gave a scenario if Obama was ineligible this and this would happen. Looks like that bc from WND has been debunked by Mike Rivero.

THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE HOAX
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirthfinal.php

[LoreOnTerror]

I posted an article on this becoming a constitutional crisis about a week ago and most posters couldn't see it. There is a lot more to this that's for sure. A lot of people in the realm are or should be familiar with what a birth certificate is. They should also be aware that you don't really have to have one. The Sheppard-Towner Act of 1921 was allowed to expire but people have continued to register their children anyway because they believed (were told) it was what they had to do. Now here's the problem with our realm. You can't have it both ways. If you ask Obama to produce his birth certificate then you are saying that it is a valid document with significance in the world and we all have to have one. If Obama has to have one so do you. If they say what is actually true that Obama doesn't actually have to have a birth certificate then in reality there is no one who can prove whether he was or wasn't born in the US because they are all dead now. That being his Mother Father Grandmother and maybe even the doctors? Either way you look at it this whole issue can't turn out well.

[Dig]

Misleading title, the FBI didn't admit anything they gave a scenario if Obama was ineligible this and this would happen. Looks like that bc from WND has been debunked by Mike Rivero.

THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE HOAX
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirthfinal.php

Actually, that just proves that Mike is a total hypocrite, have you actually read that moronic nonsense? More on the total BS is in this thread: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=122682.0

All of that shit was vetted within nanoseconds yesterday.  Mike is defying logic to protect his Obama fantasies of globalized utopian unicorns. How much more obvious does it get?

More:

Mike Rivero is drinking Obama Kool Aid--Webster Tarpley tried to wake him up before the election on Alex's show--no go.

The B.C. is a valid concern. Odds are Obama can't produce a real one for the USA--and the one hidden away is a CIA forged copy which they don't want exposed.

This is an important issue to the NWO--they don't want their puppet Barky disqualified as Pres.
So I believe there is a plan afoot, like the Dan Rather set-up, to discredit this movement further.

Don't be so focused on the BC.
Again--this current Kenyan BC making the rounds may be a set-up. Take the emphasis off the BC and put it on FULL DISCLOSURE of Obama's sealed records. I think the passport records and college records will be far more incriminating.

[Dig]

I posted an article on this becoming a constitutional crisis about a week ago and most posters couldn't see it. There is a lot more to this that's for sure. A lot of people in the realm are or should be familiar with what a birth certificate is. They should also be aware that you don't really have to have one. The Sheppard-Towner Act of 1921 was allowed to expire but people have continued to register their children anyway because they believed (were told) it was what they had to do. Now here's the problem with our realm. You can't have it both ways. If you ask Obama to produce his birth certificate then you are saying that it is a valid document with significance in the world and we all have to have one. If Obama has to have one so do you. If they say what is actually true that Obama doesn't actually have to have a birth certificate then in reality there is no one who can prove whether he was or wasn't born in the US because they are all dead now. That being his Mother Father Grandmother and maybe even the doctors? Either way you look at it this whole issue can't turn out well.

So you admit that he is probably not born in the United States of America and although somewhat painful, exposing this is the right thing to do if we are at all interested in getting out of theslowly heating pot that is cooking us frogs?

[InfoTruth]

Actually, that just proves that Mike is a total hypocrite, have you actually read that moronic nonsense?

All of that shit was vetted within nanoseconds yesterday.  Mike is defying logic to protect his Obama fantasies of globalized utopian unicorns. How much more obvious does it get?

Mike Rivero admitted in the beginning to falling for Obama but ever since he has been very critical of him.  Are you saying Mike Rivero is an agent?

[Dok]

"should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid."

NONE OF THEM WOULD BE VALID!!

[the general]

Justice be done though the heavens fall.

[the general]

Mike Rivero admitted in the beginning to falling for Obama but ever since he has been very critical of him.  Are you saying Mike Rivero is an agent?

I think we need to give Mike Rivero some slack here.  He has been one of the most prominent 911 truth advocates since the beginning -- the most seminal issue of our time!

[Dig]

Mike Rivero admitted in the beginning to falling for Obama but ever since he has been very critical of him.  Are you saying Mike Rivero is an agent?

What? I am saying that Mike Rivero is a hypocrite. He preaches exposing government lies and then he defends a piece of toilet paper as if it is an actual birth ceriticate. Then he tells people to Shut the f**k Up about it.  That is being a hypocrite. I know and speak from experience because up until a week ago, I also was a hypocrite on this issue.

[LoreOnTerror]

So you admit that he is probably not born in the United States of America and although somewhat painful, exposing this is the right thing to do if we are at all interested in getting out of theslowly heating pot that is cooking us frogs?

What I'm saying is that if everyone is putting the emphasis on the birth certificate = natural born citizen then what's demanded of one must be demanded of all. The birth certificate is a security instrument, a bond. It's what they use to borrow money against your life to do what they do. If we ask Obama to produce his because it proves he is a natural born "citizen" (entirely different meaning than most think) then it means everyone must have one to prove they are. So if you don't want things to continue on as they are then you might want to let the issue go. If you do then press forward. I for one don't want these people borrowing against my life to fund their nefarious activities.

[Dig]

I think we need to give Mike Rivero some slack here.  He has been one of the most prominent 911 truth advocates since the beginning -- the most seminal issue of our time!

I agree, it is hypocritical, something that I had to see for myself and it was painful.  I do not think he is an agent, I am not an agent and felt the same damn way.  I am just worried that he might be stubborn about this, I do not have his communication skills nor his credibility so for me it is easy to say "f it, I was 1,000% wrong on this issue" as I have done.  I am worried that it is not so easy for others to and they may get the "Custard Philosophy" explained in the movie Little Big Man.

[InfoTruth]

What? I am saying that Mike Rivero is a hypocrite. He preaches exposing government lies and then he defends a piece of toilet paper as if it is an actual birth ceriticate. Then he tells people to Shut the f**k Up about it.  That is being a hypocrite. I know and speak from experience because up until a week ago, I also was a hypocrite on this issue.

And you on the other hand are saying if we're not with this birther movement we basically don't care about the constitution. Well I'm sorry but all of you birthers are being fooled and lets say if Obama wasn't really born in America, do you know whats going to happen? Chaos and yes martial law, is that what you want?

[Dig]

What I'm saying is that if everyone is putting the emphasis on the birth certificate = natural born citizen then what's demanded of one must be demanded of all. The birth certificate is a security instrument. It's what they use to borrow money against your life to do what they do. If we ask Obama to produce his because it proves he is a natural born "citizen" (entirely different meaning than most think) then it mean everyone must have one to prove they are. So if you don't want things to continue on as they are then you might want to let the issue go. If you do then press forward. I for one don't want these people borrow against my life to fund their nefarious activities.

I think Protean adressed this very nicely...

Don't be so focused on the BC.
Again--this current Kenyan BC making the rounds may be a set-up. Take the emphasis off the BC and put it on FULL DISCLOSURE of Obama's sealed records. I think the passport records and college records will be far more incriminating.

And when being a servant of the people in government office you damn well need to produce more information and disclosure than if you are not a servant to the people.  It is irrational to say they are the same.  As many have said...

The privacy of the individual shall always be protected, the privacy of government shall always be eliminated.

[Dig]

And you on the other hand are saying if we're not with this birther movement we basically don't care about the constitution. Well I'm sorry but all of you birthers are being fooled and lets say if Obama wasn't really born in America, do you know whats going to happen? Chaos and yes martial law, is that what you want?

Yes, yes, the old chaos and martial law fear mongering...

They used it to stop the JFK investigation (supposed communist conspiracy was too hot to handle)

They used it to stop the MLK investigation (if it was exposed that there was a conspiracy than race wars would ensue)

They used it  to stop the RFK investigation (since Sirhan had a newspaper clipping in his pocket it would expose both a zionist and anti-zionist conspiracy that was too hot to handle)

They used it to stop a new 9/11 inquiry as it would expose too much about the government that the American people are not ready to face (same with the MK Ultra/Church discoveries and necessary follow ups that were blocked)

They are using it now to stop the release of the torture pics and documents.

THEY USED IT TO PASS THE FASCIST BANKSTER BAILOUT!!!

This "We Can't Handle The Truth" insane fear mongering is suicidal.  Look at what has occured over the past 45 years since they blew Kennedy's brains out.  How hot do you need the pot to get until you jump out?

[InfoTruth]

Another thing to ponder about is why hasn't Ron Paul said anything about this looney birther movement? Ron Paul talks about real issues not distractions.

[LoreOnTerror]

I think Protean adressed this very nicely...

And when being a servant of the people in government office you damn well need to produce more information and disclosure than if you are not a servant to the people.  It is irrational to say they are the same.  As many have said...

The privacy of the individual shall always be protected, the privacy of government shall always be eliminated.

I'm sure those documents would be much more incriminating and I'm also sure he has had more than one Passport and maybe even social security numbers as has been reported since he is very likely a spook since at least his first job out of college. The problem there is that the CIA isn't going to let that information come out.

[Protean]

If Obama is ineligible, then all of his appointments and laws he signed would be null and void. And it would also make Biden's election as VP null and void. End result? You would either have President McCain and VP Palin, or they would have to redo the election, only with Hillary against McCain. In the case of the latter, Hillary Clinton would probably be the next president. Either way, there will be mass protests, and either McCain or Clinton will send agents provocateur to instigate riots and declare martial law total lockdown.

OR--a third party can get some REAL traction--I don't think the Ron Paul people would miss out on that opportunity--do you?

[Protean]

Another thing to ponder about is why hasn't Ron Paul said anything about this looney birther movement? Ron Paul talks about real issues not distractions.

Wellllllllll....he doesn't talk much about 911 Truth either, I think that is a REAL issue.
(deep sigh)
Obviously Dr. Paul is being careful what he says. Issues like these are extremely explosive and he is staying away from them.

 

[chris jones]

OK. In the event OBY bumped, who gets the throne.

Does anyone beleive that the crew we have as presidential material will make a difference.

Don't get me wrong, its a giant step, its constitutional , but will it bring about what is needed, a cleaning up, a resurection of the Const. and this nation.

I'm all for the truth, get rid of the scumbag, unfortunelty like the hydra there are more heads drooling to sit on the throne, and they are not the ones we want.

If justice begins with this first step, let there be more to follow.

[NWOSCUM]

Another thing to ponder about is why hasn't Ron Paul said anything about this looney birther movement? Ron Paul talks about real issues not distractions.

What's looney about wanting to know that the puppet in the WH is EVEN eligible to be there?

[InfoTruth]

Wellllllllll....he doesn't talk much about 911 Truth either, I think that is a REAL issue.
(deep sigh)
Obviously Dr. Paul is being careful what he says. Issues like these are extremely explosive and he is staying away from them.

 

He has in the past said some stuff about 9/11 truth but then said he believes the official 9/11 story as well. 9/11 truth is very important even way more than this birth certificate crap. I think Ron Paul knows nothing can be done about 9/11 so he just decided to focus on other issues.

[AtomicBlythe]

Aside from the horrors of who would replace the current puppet were he exposed as a non-US citizen, I'm surprised I am not seeing more of the 'race card' being thrown down?
There are many who are so blinded that they could perceive this as an avenue to remove a non-white individual from office.   Imagine what a nice SMOKE SCREEN that would make? Smoke Screen Smoke Screen, Divert your attention...stick out your arm please....thank you, move along now.

[Protean]

He has in the past said some stuff about 9/11 truth but then said he believes the official 9/11 story as well. 9/11 truth is very important even way more than this birth certificate crap. I think Ron Paul knows nothing can be done about 9/11 so he just decided to focus on other issues.

Disagree--not Birther or BC, but Full Disclosure--Obama is 911 Inside Job Part II
Bush/911 Attack/Patriot Act was the set-up
Barky is the knock-out punch--the end of our country as we know it--fast-track legislated fascism with Pelosi and the Dems in control and Barky's smiling face as the icing on the cake.

Obama: Where have all his records gone?
Footprints of president's own history either vanish or remain covered up
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100613

[TahoeBlue]

Obama: Where have all his records gone?
Footprints of president's own history either vanish or remain covered up
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100613

Nice BO/BS timeline:
Who is Barak Obama (Timeline info)

[Dig]

He has in the past said some stuff about 9/11 truth but then said he believes the official 9/11 story as well. 9/11 truth is very important even way more than this birth certificate crap. I think Ron Paul knows nothing can be done about 9/11 so he just decided to focus on other issues.

The secrecy of the Obama government has been discussed by everyone actually and it is a very important issue.

But apparently you do not think that 9/11 truth is that important because for the past week at least you only comment about this. Apparently your priorities are only focused on telling people to "SHUT THE F*CK UP" about this issue rather than researching the latest developments about 9/11 as many others have.

Any reason for that?

[luckee1]

Another thing to ponder about is why hasn't Ron Paul said anything about this looney birther movement? Ron Paul talks about real issues not distractions.

I take exception to this looney birther movement as you call it.  My mother, her sister, and her brother, can never run for president.  They would never be able to become president.  Why?  Because their parents were born in Ireland.  It does not matter that my grandparents never stepped off U.S. soil once they came to the United States.  It does not matter that my mother, aunt and uncle never stepped off U.S. soil.  They can never be president.  

This usurper has been given every way to infiltrate the white house, by our complacency for the past 100 years.  Now that we as a people are becoming aware and finally laying down the law of the constitution, we get called all kinds of names.  Evidence is being produced that Barky is not a natural citizen and therefore ineligible for office.  I have to show my birth certificate just to open a bank account, to prove I am an American citizen.  So too should the POTUS.  He should have a more thorough background check done on him than an enlistee of the armed service.

The complaint about Ron Paul not doing anything about this issue is a strawman argument.  Ron Paul is already addressing many issues.  It is up to us, we the people, to enforce the law.  Ron Paul should not have to pursuit every single item.  That is a lazy mans approach to foist all these issues on him.  Ron Paul has way too much in the office he holds now and is pursuing far more than his any of his peers.

It is OUR job to enforce the law.  It is our job to investigate the evidence.  Should Ron Paul become president in the future, he will have one hell of a mess to clear up. It is our job to gather the evidence.  Name calling be damned.

[Dig]

Aside from the horrors of who would replace the current puppet were he exposed as a non-US citizen, I'm surprised I am not seeing more of the 'race card' being thrown down?
There are many who are so blinded that they could perceive this as an avenue to remove a non-white individual from office.   Imagine what a nice SMOKE SCREEN that would make? Smoke Screen Smoke Screen, Divert your attention...stick out your arm please....thank you, move along now.

They are trying so desperately to use the race card, but many black, brown, yellow, red Americans have said on record that the President should do as he promised and engage in a transparent government.

That is the issue.

He is still hiding 2,000 torture photos.

What do the banksters have over him?

How can they get away with controlling him so well?

[Dig]

The secrecy of the Obama government has been discussed by everyone actually and it is a very important issue.

But apparently you do not think that 9/11 truth is that important because for the past week at least you only comment about this. Apparently your priorities are only focused on telling people to "SHUT THE F*CK UP" about this issue rather than researching the latest developments about 9/11 as many others have.

Any reason for that?

Actually, your contribution to this forum over the past month at least is ridiculous, you just drop hundreds of one liners offering zero evidence, constructive arguments, sourced information, researched assessments, links, etc.

Is your sole purpose here to tell people to "SHUT THE F*CK UP" on the obvious secrecy in the Obama puppet regime?

[InfoTruth]

The secrecy of the Obama government has been discussed by everyone actually and it is a very important issue.

But apparently you do not think that 9/11 truth is that important because for the past week at least you only comment about this. Apparently your priorities are only focused on telling people to "SHUT THE F*CK UP" about this issue rather than researching the latest developments about 9/11 as many others have.

Any reason for that?

Nice try at trying to make me the enemy here but it's not going to work. I've donated to 9/11 first responders and have been telling my friends and family about them. I've even been to some of their events, you asshole. Over 3000 Americans died on 9/11 and the Iraq war over 4000 deaths which happened because of 9/11. My brother was in Iraq and I used to send him dvds to wake up his fellow soldiers. 9/11 truth is very important to me, just because i don't agree with this brither movement doesnt mean i don't care about 9/11.

[Dig]

Nice try at trying to make me the enemy here but it's not going to work. I've donated to 9/11 first responders and have been telling my friends and family about them. I've even been to some of their events, you asshole. Over 3000 Americans died on 9/11 and the Iraq war over 4000 deaths which happened because of 9/11. My brother was in Iraq and I used to send him dvds to wake up his fellow soldiers. 9/11 truth is very important to me, just because i don't agree with this brither movement doesnt mean i don't care about 9/11.

The Bill Clinton "How Dare You" defense (everyone take note)...

Well than why have you completely focused on protecting Obama's secrecy? A brave soldier that challenged Obama's secrecy was spared from having to go to the banksters genocide. And do not forget that it is over 15,000 dead American soldiers, over 500,000 soldiers afflicted with PTSD and lots of other ailments. As a matter of fact since you are personally affected by the Iraq war, why not contribute to the room that exposes how the elites are targeting the American Soldier for extermination:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=397.0

Also there are over 1.5 million iraquis (mostly women and children) that have been exterminated by the banksters forced genocide pollicy. there are many rooms talking about that too.

Why are you engaging in the Bill Clinton emotionalization defense as to why your contribution to this forum and specifically 911 truth on this forum has been minimal?

I mean why are you attacking me for pointing out the obvious. You even called me an asshole, are you ok? I mean what did I say that was not truthful? could you elaborate on that rather than the Bill Clinton tactics of emotionalizing something to avoid a logical debate based on evidence?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMJ3WrooXbY

Bill Clinton to Truther: “How Dare You!”
http://www.sundriesshack.com/2007/10/29/bill-clinton-to-truther-how-dare-you/

Finally, a prominent Democrat has decided to get pugnacious with the 9/11 “Truther” Morons. Unfortunately, it wasn’t any of the Democrats currently running for President (or John Edwards who has decided to go the other direction and cozy up to the anti-American weasels or nearly half the Democratic voters who are the anti-American weasels themselves).

So, mad props to America’s Homeboy, Bill Clinton for smacking down a couple Truthers at one of his wife’s campaign stops.

Clinton’s 50-minute speech, which started about an hour behind schedule, was derailed briefly by several hecklers in the audience who shouted that the 2001 terrorist attacks were a fraud. Rather than ignoring them, Clinton seemed to relish a direct confrontation.

“A fraud? No, it wasn’t a fraud,” Clinton said, as the crowd cheered him on. “I’ll be glad to talk to you if you shut up and let me talk.”

When another heckler shouted that the attacks were an “inside job,” Clinton took even greater umbrage.

“An inside job? How dare you. How dare you. It was not an inside job,” Clinton said. “You guys have got to be careful, you’re going to give Minnesota a bad reputation.”


I don’t know of any national politician who’s pimp-handed the Truthers quite so hard since Newt did it and that includes the Republicans running for President. Taking on the crazies who are highly-regarded in the opposition party would instantly set any Republican head and shoulders above anyone else in the race and get them some instant appreciation and respect from significant numbers of voters from both parties as well as the squishy “undecideds” who lurk in the middle somewhere.

If this really is going to be something the Clinton campaign will hit a few times as emphatically as Bill did, it’s going to overcome a lot of Hillary’s deficiencies, including her bone-deep socialism. Regardless of whether she does or not, it’s good that Bill did and he ought to get some credit.

[Crimethink]

I'm sorry. Did I miss where the FBI undeniably said that Obama was ineligible? All I read was a bunch of "what if" scenarios.

[Dig]

I'm sorry. Did I miss where the FBI undeniably said that Obama was ineligible? All I read was a bunch of "what if" scenarios.

if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid." It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation.

THE FBI IS ADMITTING THAT HE IS PROBABLY INELIGIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[InfoTruth]

Now you're accusing me of using Bill Clinton emotionalization defense??? WTF? First you accused some other guy of promoting NWO fear just because he believes this birther situation is a trap and now you accuse me of not caring enough about 9/11? Folks this is all coming from a guy that MODERATES Alex Jones prison planet forum. You are not allowed to disagree with this individual!!! It's not acceptable !!! wtf

[JBS]

Oh yea, an impostor is 'discovered' and Martial Law will have to be 'declared' and the NWO agenda will have to be accelerated.
This what the USA has become: A rising Nazi-style regime.

[Crimethink]

if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid." It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation.

THE FBI IS ADMITTING THAT HE IS PROBABLY INELIGIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's not an admission, man. That's a "what if" scenario outlining would would happen IF Obama were not eligible. Just be careful with this stuff.