New York State makes flu shots compulsory despite nurses opposition

[Eckhart Tolle]

New York State makes flu shots compulsory despite nurses opposition   


EndoNurse     Saturday 1st August, 2009     

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=525827

The New York State Nurses Association has strongly opposed a regulation that would require every healthcare worker in the state to be immunized for influenza.

Despite these objections, the New York State Hospital Planning and Review Council has adopted the proposal as an emergency rule that could go into effect before this winter’s flu season. The rule affects all healthcare personnel, both paid and unpaid, who interact with patients in hospitals, diagnostic and treatment centers, certified home health agencies, long-term healthcare programs, AIDS home care programs, licensed home care services, and hospices.
In its testimony, the association called the council’s action a “scorched earth” approach. “While we encourage nurses to be immunized for the flu, we do not agree that nurses should be required to get immunizations as a condition of employment,” said Eileen Avery, RN, associate director of the association’s Education, Practice & Research Program.

“The seasonal flu vaccine is not 100 percent effective and sometimes is highly ineffective, as it was in 2005 and 2007,” Avery said. “There is no guarantee that in any given year, the public will benefit from mandatory immunization of healthcare providers.”

The association also is concerned that the state and healthcare facilities might rely upon flu shots to prevent the spread of influenza among workers and patients rather than implementing proven infection control procedures such the use of appropriate respirators and isolation rooms.
The regulation’s impact on the state’s shortage of nurses could be significant, the association says.

“There is no exemption for religious or cultural preferences regarding immunization, effectively blocking individuals who have these beliefs from earning their livelihood,” Avery said. “It’s possible that nurses will leave the profession or choose another career because of this onerous mandate; a serious threat at a time when the shortage of nurses in New York State is expected to reach 20,000 within a decade.”

[unitedstrokesofamerica]

Holy shit man.... I am a health care worker in NY.... I WILL NOT TAKE THIS!!! I am so pissed right now. I am going to get the whole hospital stirred up over this.  Nobody in health care gets the flu shot. like 20% maybe where I am.  I can not believe I just read that.. omg

[larsonstdoc]

“There is no exemption for religious or cultural preferences regarding immunization, effectively blocking individuals who have these beliefs from earning their livelihood,” Avery said.

  Amazing how these bastards can just say this and the nurses just take it.  48 states have a religious exemption.  The nurses should ask Avery to resign and get somebody in there to fight for them.  Better yet they should march on the statehouse.

[Dig]

MAINE for student, and NY for healthcare workers.  like what 1,000 die across the globe and about 20 million are about to be jabbed with an untested mercury shot?

How does this make any sense?

[tosso]

crazy world

[lavosslayer]

MAINE for student, and NY for healthcare workers.  like what 1,000 die across the globe and about 20 million are about to be jabbed with an untested mercury shot?

How does this make any sense?

SHUT IT DRONE!! YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! TO THE SCRUBBER WITH YOU!! MAYBE AFTERWARD YOU WILL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CLEANSE YOUR MIND OF SUCH THINGS!

[Dig]

SHUT IT DRONE!! YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! TO THE SCRUBBER WITH YOU!! MAYBE AFTERWARD YOU WILL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CLEANSE YOUR MIND OF SUCH THINGS!

guess I better get my mind right boss.

[unitedstrokesofamerica]

I am freaking about about this, I dunno what I am going to do for a job and make good money. /cry



Honestly though, a HUGE thing for us in health care is NEVER EVER EVER do anything to someone against their will, if they are "with it"  I can see nurses either refusing to do this or "just saying" they gave you a shot if you don't want one and trashing it.  This has never been done before, I PRAY people stand up to this...



Side note: don't we have a GOD DAMNED CONSTITUTION?  I AM NOT A F!@$*!@ SLAVE YOU TRASH,  I AM NOT AN ANIMAL, YOU ARE THE ANIMALS WHO TOURTURE AND KILL WITHOUT MERCY, YOU CAN NOT JUST DO THIS TO US,  THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SOME COUNTRY THAT HAS LIVED UNDER TYRANNY BEFORE.  WE ARE FREE PEOPLE, WE ARE FREE PEOPLE, WE ARE FREE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lavosslayer]

guess I better get my mind right boss.

Nice one!

[Dig]

I am freaking about about this, I dunno what I am going to do for a job and make good money. /cry

Honestly though, a HUGE thing for us in health care is NEVER EVER EVER do anything to someone against their will, if they are "with it"  I can see nurses either refusing to do this or "just saying" they gave you a shot if you don't want one and trashing it.  This has never been done before, I PRAY people stand up to this...

Side note: don't we have a GOD DAMNED CONSTITUTION?  I AM NOT A F!@$*!@ SLAVE YOU TRASH,  I AM NOT AN ANIMAL, YOU ARE THE ANIMALS WHO TOURTURE AND KILL WITHOUT MERCY, YOU CAN NOT JUST DO THIS TO US,  THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SOME COUNTRY THAT HAS LIVED UNDER TYRANNY BEFORE.  WE ARE FREE PEOPLE, WE ARE FREE PEOPLE, WE ARE FREE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is some stuff to watch prior to making phone calls:

Part 1:
WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB_Jbr8R8XU
High Resolution:
http://wewillnotbesilenced.cf.huffingtonpost.com/non_violent_resistance.swf

Part 2:
WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWPNF5KfAtY

If you hold on,
you continue to press on,
you continue to persevere,
so that voices that are small,
can be made large.
Victory is not won overnight,
it is won out of prtracted struggle.
[...]
We will not shut up and we will not sit down!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mario Savio: Sproul Hall Steps, December 2, 1964

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcx9BJRadfw

"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious,
makes you so sick at heart,
that you can't take part;
you can't even passively take part,
and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels,
upon the levers,
upon all the apparatus,
and you've got to make it stop.
And you've got to indicate to the people who run it,
to the people who own it,
that unless you're free,
the machine will be prevented from working at all!"

[Volitzar]

No surprise their NY is run by Nanny-State Authoritarians.

If any state falls to the NWO first it will be New York.

The lawyers and the ex-military in that state may be their only salvation.

[Ghost in the Machine]

I am freaking about about this, I dunno what I am going to do for a job and make good money. /cry



Honestly though, a HUGE thing for us in health care is NEVER EVER EVER do anything to someone against their will, if they are "with it"  I can see nurses either refusing to do this or "just saying" they gave you a shot if you don't want one and trashing it.  This has never been done before, I PRAY people stand up to this...



Side note: don't we have a GOD DAMNED CONSTITUTION?  I AM NOT A F!@$*!@ SLAVE YOU TRASH,  I AM NOT AN ANIMAL, YOU ARE THE ANIMALS WHO TOURTURE AND KILL WITHOUT MERCY, YOU CAN NOT JUST DO THIS TO US,  THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SOME COUNTRY THAT HAS LIVED UNDER TYRANNY BEFORE.  WE ARE FREE PEOPLE, WE ARE FREE PEOPLE, WE ARE FREE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed im gonna need to find a doctor to give me the paper worl for some money, we need to know if hospitals and clinic will be giving the shots or only by forced military personal....

[Volitzar]

Probably get some psycho-feminist nurse and some 'roid-head cop to enforce these vaccinations in New York too.

[chris jones]

These folks have but one choice, refuse.

Who the FK in their right mind would allow the Gov to inject mercury into your body.

Well folks, this is definelty Nazi methodry, seems there is little choice, walk off the job, unite and fight, or take a wack of mercury and wait for the side effects.

The final cruelty and insanity is they are telling you people, take the shot or FK off, if you do go along with the Gov. and take it, you will then be giving injections to the masses, the innocents. I do not think that a great percentage of of dedicated medical personell would do this.
This one is a tough call. conscience, survival, and keeping the job or loosing it.

Let your conscience guide you, yes, and your survival instinct.

[trailhound]

I send out emails to friends and families concerning many topics we discuss here at Prison Planet Forum and unfortunately do not get much response. Most of them are stuck in Glenn Beck's world...but when I sent out Ron Paul's talk about the 1976 swine flu vac and the coming flu scare they all were on board. I dont think the american people are going to approve of this shit.  This could be a major flashpoint cooking. Could be a good thing but I could see it ending quite badly.

[barndoor77]

Holy shit man.... I am a health care worker in NY.... I WILL NOT TAKE THIS!!! I am so pissed right now. I am going to get the whole hospital stirred up over this.  Nobody in health care gets the flu shot. like 20% maybe where I am.  I can not believe I just read that.. omg

You tell me, everyone is given a shot in private right?

I would try to oppose it on every legal, exemption, and religious front, fail that - FAKE THE ADMINISTRATING OF IT.

I would suggest finding like minded people in your hospital who are 'on your side' and will toss the thing in the trash.

What is even better is you should saved the trashed vaccine samples and send for testing for HIV, Antibodies to a women's egg etc etc etc.

You could turn a real negative into a positive.  Then the lab results of whatever garbage they have hidden in their shot can be fired around the internet as CONFIRMED.

[trailhound]

barndoor77 wrote

What is even better is you should saved the trashed vaccine samples and send for testing for HIV, Antibodies to a women's egg etc etc etc.

You could turn a real negative into a positive.  Then the lab results of whatever garbage they have hidden in their shot can be fired around the internet as CONFIRMED.

 Yes this is what needs to happen.

Shit maybe they already thought of that so maybe thats why the military will supervise

[sociostudent]

MAINE for student, and NY for healthcare workers.  like what 1,000 die across the globe and about 20 million are about to be jabbed with an untested mercury shot?

How does this make any sense?

It's an "untested mercury for 195 million doses/untested-mercury-toxic inner-organ-eating oily substance for 120 million doses" shot

Oh, btw, has anyone reported on the baxter buybacks yet?
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200907281813DOWJONESDJONLINE000673_FORTUNE5.htm
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/baxter-sets-2-billion-buyback-program-2009-07-28
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN2811889220090728
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D99NGNHO1.htm
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/business/1689829,5_1_WA29_BAXTER_S1-090729.article

[unitedstrokesofamerica]

I send out emails to friends and families concerning many topics we discuss here at Prison Planet Forum and unfortunately do not get much response. Most of them are stuck in Glenn Beck's world...but when I sent out Ron Paul's talk about the 1976 swine flu vac and the coming flu scare they all were on board. I dont think the american people are going to approve of this shit.  This could be a major flashpoint cooking. Could be a good thing but I could see it ending quite badly.

I agree, this could be it, the4 start of the war. You do not FORCE us to do anything. You can talk dumb people into doing dumb things  ( hell, that is the American way of advertising).  This however is WAY different. FORCING a American to do something against his and her will. This will not go well.  People up here are waking up to Obama's bull shit even in (d) NY.


WE ARE FREE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!NOT FREED PEOPLE!!!!!!!   KRS1

[Catalina]

I remember a story back in 2006 when the SARS scare began. Let's pray and hope, enforcement won't begin this fall and if it does. You already know what to do.

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/CityandR...67449-sun.html

"Sweeping new Ontario emergency legislation has health-care workers afraid they may be forced to choose between protecting their families and a jail sentence if a flu pandemic hits the province.

Bill 56 has raised alarms with doctors, nurses and other health-care workers because it contains a clause that gives the Ontario cabinet power to “authorize” any person reasonably qualified to provide services in a declared emergency.

The penalty for violating the proposed law is a fine of up to $100,000 and a year in jail for each day the order isn’t obeyed."

[EchelonMonitor]

Cool, lots of free property will soon be available.  I'm going to squat a penthouse.  Of course, it's always hard to get the dead body smell out.

[Dig]

Cool, lots of free property will soon be available.  I'm going to squat a penthouse.  Of course, it's always hard to get the dead body smell out.

No shit, this is like the fricking movie "blindness". Everyone needs to see that movie.

[chris jones]

I remember when morality was at its high point in Canada.

This is a travesty, inhuman, a good indicator  the Canadadian Gov. has become  the despots of tyrany.

Jail, a hundred thousand dollar fine imposed, what citizen can handle this intimidation.

They may as well tell these qualified individuals , take it or a two tap. Whats the difference.

For FK sake New York is now included in the physcotic abomination, how long before the other states fall in line.

[lavosslayer]

I remember when morality was at its high point in Canada.

This is a travesty, inhuman, a good indicator  the Canadadian Gov. has become  the despots of tyrany.

Jail, a hundred thousand dollar fine imposed, what citizen can handle this intimidation.

They may as well tell these qualified individuals , take it or a two tap. Whats the difference.

For FK sake New York is now included in the psychotic abomination, how long before the other states fall in line.

   I don't think the people will go along with this...its just too insane. I think that no matter what we try to do that it will unfortunately come to an outcry by the public and eventually become hostile. The people have had enough of government telling them what to do, think, feel, taste, hear, see and smell. The moment something like this is imposed for real (I mean people actually getting jabbed without their consent), that will be it. I sincerely hope we can bring this monster down before it comes to that, but with them cramming all this crap through congress without even reading it all, it doesn't look good. Nowadays, Congress is just a public TV panel that people who view c-span watch to see how to fake like your actually passing legislature. Most of this tyrannical legislation is passed regardless of the public sentiment. Just reading the motivations behind the Swine Flu in this thread is like a jackboot to the face that we need to do something and fast before many more lives are unnecessarily lost in the name of money and false power! The real war is not overseas, its right here in our own backyard, if only people would realize that, we could make some real progress and getting this country back to the Constitutional Republic it was meant to be!

[unitedstrokesofamerica]

I meant into work last night and told about 20 people about this and 15 of them got really pissed and said they would leave the state. I dont think this is going to go down where I am. I had no idea people were yelling "I HAVE A CONSTITUTION, THEY CANT DO THIS"  " THE FLU SHOT GIVES YOU THE FLU"  it was awesome.....

[donnay]

I meant into work last night and told about 20 people about this and 15 of them got really pissed and said they would leave the state. I dont think this is going to go down where I am. I had no idea people were yelling "I HAVE A CONSTITUTION, THEY CANT DO THIS"  " THE FLU SHOT GIVES YOU THE FLU"  it was awesome.....

That is encouraging news.  I certainly hope people start paying a lot more attention to these issues--we are heading towards fall.